Re: Launcher stacks on iOS etc.

[Gerry Orkin]

I do, because my apps have to to go to different stacks depending on the 
running environment. My launcher handles that and also initialises SQLite 
databases. Using a launcher also lets me store files that need to be copied to 
the device in one place, rather than in multiple places, given that the app can 
run in multiple environments.   

Gerry


On 28/12/2011, at 4:42 AM, Todd Geist wrote:

> But I am curious is it still a good idea
> for things like iOS etc?  I am curious to hear from folks who have stuff in
> the app stores.  Do you still use a launcher file?

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Re: [OT] LIve Video Streaming

[Pete]

The problem we've always had with board mixes, especially in smaller
venues, is that we have a bagpiper.  The pipes are so loud that the sound
engineer generally has very little, if any, of them in the mix so when you
play back the board mix, they sound like they're not there!  Which some
might say is a good thing!

However, I think the idea of adding some house mics and putting them into
the mix that goes to the camera (but not the house mix) will help with
that.  Depending on the board capabilites, it might also be possible to mix
in the bagpipe channel to the camera mix but not the house mix.

On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Mark Wieder  wrote:

> Pete-
>
> Wednesday, December 28, 2011, 1:34:49 PM, Stephen wrote:
>
> > Get the audio off of the PA separately, however. Distant mics always suck
> > for music, no matter the quality.
>
> I'll defer to Stephen's comments here (and I'm off to check out that
> webcam) but I'll add my vote to this. If you can use the soundboard
> feed (and especially if you can optionally use a different mix from
> the house mix) you'll have a much happier web audience. You can add an
> audience mic to the mix for the ambience if desired.
>
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Re: [OT] LIve Video Streaming

[Pete]

Ho Stepehn,
Thanks a lot for all this info.  Unfortunately, my budget isn;t going to
allow me to do some for the things you mentioned, much as I would like to
have multiple cameras going.

Since I sent the original post, I discovered that a friend of mine has a
Canon XHA1S HDV camera which I am almost certain will do the job.  I hope
so because it looks like a very high end camera.

Thanks for the tip on changing camera angles, that makes perfect sense.  I
think I can find someone to operate the camera during the concert, although
it will be tethered to a laptop with a firewire cable so probably not much
movement available.  But at least, he will be able to do some zooming
in/out and left/right panning to make things a little less boring.

Pete

On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 1:34 PM, stephen barncard <
stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com> wrote:

> Logitech has a great new webcam for about 100 bucks.
>
>
> http://www.logitech.com/en-us/webcam-communications/webcams/devices/hd-pro-webcam-c910
>
> 1080p and so sharp it hurts.
>
> Get the audio off of the PA separately, however. Distant mics always suck
> for music, no matter the quality.
>
> However, it has no zoom and no mount for a tripod.
>
> MAY I SUGGEST though, for the comfort of your viewers and the quality of
> the presentation that you plan for a video input through firewire, using a
> camera you can move around, and even switch views using multiple cameras
> and hardware or software video switchers. like
> BOINXTV
>  (I use it and like it)
>
> You can serve or bounce to your streaming provider using quicktime
> Broadcaster (free), although the provider often supplies that part.
>
> Expecting viewers to sit though a long musical presentation with no shot
> variety is really a lot to ask, and if the camera doesn't move it's like a
> security camera. So if you have just one camera, dedicate a dedicated
> person that has no other task but to point it appropriately, with variety.
> Keep the camera moving. That's why you see so many "shakey cam" shots in tv
> shows -- it adds an air of verite' to the shot. They've even built special
> mounts for the heavy Panavison cameras to mimic the unsteady movements of
> cheap cameras.
>
>
>
> Speaking of cameras, there are thousands of great DV video cameras out
> there that were used once and then put in the closet after the wedding.
> They show up on EBAY and craigslist all the time.  Look for ones that have
> the original unused tapes and accessories included, and spend about $200,
> and even though it's standard definition (720x680), the images are clean
> and the cameras have decent lenses, with zoom and focus.
>
> THIS IS MY FAVORITE THE SONY
> DCR-TRV17<
> http://www.ebay.com/ctg/Sony-Handycam-DCR-TRV17-Camcorder-Black-/100040858?_dmpt=Camcorders_Professional_Video_Cameras&_pcategid=11724&_pcatid=804&_refkw=sony+dcr+trv17&_trkparms=65%253A12%257C66%253A2%257C39%253A1%257C72%253A5848&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
> >
>
> I have owned 6 of these. Eventually, the transports break down, but the
> camera, viewfinder and monitor remain intact for much longer. The video
> signal can then be routed through firewire to a computer.
>
> here's a more pricey
> one<
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-3CCD-DSR-PDX10-DVCAM-Pro-Mini-DV-Camcorder-/130613883524?pt=Camcorders_Professional_Video_Cameras&hash=item1e6931b284#ht_4561wt_835
> >with
> 3CCDs  and a great lens. But good god this thing went for thousands
> not too long ago. Because of the lens, the image will still be better than
> most of the cheap HD solid state cams, and more appropriate for shooting
> performances.
>
> good luck...
>
>
> On 28 December 2011 11:54, Pete  wrote:
>
> > I'm involved in a project to stream a music concert live over the
> internet.
> >  I've used streaming services before (not the least livecode tv with
> > ustream) but this is a bit different.
> >
> > The main difference is that I need to use an external camera, not a built
> > in one.  I just don;t think the image quality will be good enough to use
> a
> > typical webcam.
> >
> > The issue that arises is finding a video camera that is capable of
> sending
> > what it's seeing in real time to a laptop via Firewire or USB, whether or
> > not it is recording it to whatever medium it uses.  Most of the streaming
> > services have camera recommendations, but they are all miniDV cameras
> and,
> > as far as I can tell, that technology is old enough that nobody makes
> > cameras that use it any longer.
> >
> > I know it's a long shot but does anyone have any knowledge in this area?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
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Re: [OT] LIve Video Streaming

[Pete]

Well, I haven't actually tried them yet!

On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Mark Wieder  wrote:

> Pete-
>
> Wednesday, December 28, 2011, 11:54:01 AM, you wrote:
>
> > **not the least** livecode tv with ustream
>
> ...what - you've found something worse than ustream? That's scary.
>
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Re: [OT] LIve Video Streaming

[stephen barncard]

whatever service that streamed the last conference (San Jose) had excellent
up time and quality. I could blow up the stream to a 23" screen and it was
like being there. You know what a critic I am about this stuff.

On 28 December 2011 15:39, Mark Wieder  wrote:

> Pete-
>
> Wednesday, December 28, 2011, 1:34:49 PM, Stephen wrote:
>
> > Get the audio off of the PA separately, however. Distant mics always suck
> > for music, no matter the quality.
>
> I'll defer to Stephen's comments here (and I'm off to check out that
> webcam) but I'll add my vote to this. If you can use the soundboard
> feed (and especially if you can optionally use a different mix from
> the house mix) you'll have a much happier web audience. You can add an
> audience mic to the mix for the ambience if desired.
>
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Re: [OT] LIve Video Streaming

[Mark Wieder]

Pete-

Wednesday, December 28, 2011, 1:34:49 PM, Stephen wrote:

> Get the audio off of the PA separately, however. Distant mics always suck
> for music, no matter the quality.

I'll defer to Stephen's comments here (and I'm off to check out that
webcam) but I'll add my vote to this. If you can use the soundboard
feed (and especially if you can optionally use a different mix from
the house mix) you'll have a much happier web audience. You can add an
audience mic to the mix for the ambience if desired.

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Re: [OT] LIve Video Streaming

[Mark Wieder]

Pete-

Wednesday, December 28, 2011, 11:54:01 AM, you wrote:

> **not the least** livecode tv with ustream

...what - you've found something worse than ustream? That's scary.

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Re: OT Password protection of RR server?

[Mark Wieder]

Jim-

Wednesday, December 28, 2011, 1:51:06 PM, you wrote:

> Thank you going into the details. They will be helpful when
> Heather returns information about my user name and password..

Well, the username/password thing is the hard part. After that it
really is pretty simple to do.

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curious about weblets

[Todd Geist]

I am trying some very basic stuff with weblets.  I can't seem to open other
Stacks after the WebLet.  Or they aren't coming to the front?  Not sure?

I don't think they are being found. How does one incorporate other stacks
into a webLet?  Is there any info anywhere on the nuances of WebLet?

Thanks

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Re: Sample stack demonstrating how to obtain all properties and custom properties of a stack?

[stephen barncard]

well if one were setting all of the properties of a stack, they'd have to
be set to  another stack.

 set the properties of stack "b" to the properties  of  stack "a"

Easier to copy the stack.Can all the properties be placed into a variable?
  I think some props will be left out by design, otherwise objects would
blow up.


 A while ago I experimented with saving complete descriptions of livecode
objects as text with some success. It was possible to get most, but not all
properties in repeat loops, however I found that the recursive code needed
to bury within groups of groups was just too time consuming to be worth it.
  It was pointless to continue, the packaging I desired was much more
easily handled and portable with the Livecode containers.


On 28 December 2011 13:17, Bob Sneidar  wrote:

> I meant all at once as in set the properties of this stack to
> theSavedProperties
>
> Bob
>
>
> On Dec 28, 2011, at 10:16 AM, Mark Wieder wrote:
>
> > Bob-
> >
> > Wednesday, December 28, 2011, 8:31:54 AM, you wrote:
> >
> >> Putting the standard properties back is a bit trickier though. I
> >> don't think you can set the properties of a stack.
>
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Re: OT Password protection of RR server?

[Jim Hurley]

Mark,

Thank you going into the details. They will be helpful when Heather returns 
information about my user name and password..

It has been months since I have used cPanel.

Wish me luck.

Jim Hurley


> 
> Message: 24
> Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 17:04:59 -0800
> From: Mark Wieder 
> To: How to use LiveCode 
> Subject: As Matthias said, log on to on-rev's cPanel, then scroll down the 
> page
> to the Security section and click on Password Protect Directories.
> You'll probably want to click on the public_html icon (not the text)
> to open it and then navigate your way down to the folder you want to
> protect.
> 
> When you finally find the right one, click on its text (not its icon),
> then place a check in the checkbox to verify that you want to protect
> it and (optionally) set a name for the directory. Then enter a
> username and password (both are necessary to unlock the directory) and
> click Add/modify authorized user. You're done unless you want to add
> more user/password pairs.
> 
> -- 
> -Mark Wieder
> mwie...@ahsoftware.net
> Message-ID: <65943378687.20111227170...@ahsoftware.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> Jim-
> 
> Tuesday, December 27, 2011, 11:03:52 AM, you wrote:
> 
>> I would like to password protect a page. Is there anything about
>> the RR server that affects how that should be done?
> 
> As Matthias said, log on to on-rev's cPanel, then scroll down the page
> to the Security section and click on Password Protect Directories.
> You'll probably want to click on the public_html icon (not the text)
> to open it and then navigate your way down to the folder you want to
> protect.
> 
> When you finally find the right one, click on its text (not its icon),
> then place a check in the checkbox to verify that you want to protect
> it and (optionally) set a name for the directory. Then enter a
> username and password (both are necessary to unlock the directory) and
> click Add/modify authorized user. You're done unless you want to add
> more user/password pairs.
> 
> -- 
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> mwie...@ahsoftware.net
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Datagrid Column Format

[Pete]

Is that any way to use a different format for a column in different rows in
a datagrid.  For example, sometimes I want plain text in the column, other
times an option menu, etc depending the value of another column in the row.


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Re: matchChunk question

[stephen barncard]

cancel that. Read too quickly.

On 28 December 2011 13:36, stephen barncard  wrote:

> delimiters have to be single characters, I believe.  Not tested but I
> think the idea failed on me once.
>
> Stephen Barncard
>
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Re: matchChunk question

[stephen barncard]

delimiters have to be single characters, I believe.  Not tested but I think
the idea failed on me once.

On 28 December 2011 12:00, Peter M. Brigham, MD  wrote:

> Any reason not to just use
>
> put numtochar(8) into tempDelim
> replace <4-char-sequence> with tempDelim in tString
> set the itemdelimiter to tempDelim
>
> ?
>
> -- Peter
>
> Peter M. Brigham
> pmb...@gmail.com
> http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig
>
> On Dec 27, 2011, at 5:35 PM, Mark Smith wrote:
>
> > Thanks, worked perfectly. changing the expression to "(\" & quote & "v"
> & "\"
> > & quote & ":)" resulted in true, 422, 425 in the output. What I am
> > attempting to do is define a rather complicated item delimiter, in this
> case
> > made up of the 4 char sequence "v":  If I can define where this occurs I
> can
> > break the input up into chunks.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > -- Mark
> >
> > --
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Re: [OT] LIve Video Streaming

[stephen barncard]

Logitech has a great new webcam for about 100 bucks.

http://www.logitech.com/en-us/webcam-communications/webcams/devices/hd-pro-webcam-c910

1080p and so sharp it hurts.

Get the audio off of the PA separately, however. Distant mics always suck
for music, no matter the quality.

However, it has no zoom and no mount for a tripod.

MAY I SUGGEST though, for the comfort of your viewers and the quality of
the presentation that you plan for a video input through firewire, using a
camera you can move around, and even switch views using multiple cameras
and hardware or software video switchers. like
BOINXTV
  (I use it and like it)

You can serve or bounce to your streaming provider using quicktime
Broadcaster (free), although the provider often supplies that part.

Expecting viewers to sit though a long musical presentation with no shot
variety is really a lot to ask, and if the camera doesn't move it's like a
security camera. So if you have just one camera, dedicate a dedicated
person that has no other task but to point it appropriately, with variety.
Keep the camera moving. That's why you see so many "shakey cam" shots in tv
shows -- it adds an air of verite' to the shot. They've even built special
mounts for the heavy Panavison cameras to mimic the unsteady movements of
cheap cameras.



Speaking of cameras, there are thousands of great DV video cameras out
there that were used once and then put in the closet after the wedding.
They show up on EBAY and craigslist all the time.  Look for ones that have
the original unused tapes and accessories included, and spend about $200,
and even though it's standard definition (720x680), the images are clean
and the cameras have decent lenses, with zoom and focus.

THIS IS MY FAVORITE THE SONY
DCR-TRV17

I have owned 6 of these. Eventually, the transports break down, but the
camera, viewfinder and monitor remain intact for much longer. The video
signal can then be routed through firewire to a computer.

here's a more pricey
onewith
3CCDs  and a great lens. But good god this thing went for thousands
not too long ago. Because of the lens, the image will still be better than
most of the cheap HD solid state cams, and more appropriate for shooting
performances.

good luck...


On 28 December 2011 11:54, Pete  wrote:

> I'm involved in a project to stream a music concert live over the internet.
>  I've used streaming services before (not the least livecode tv with
> ustream) but this is a bit different.
>
> The main difference is that I need to use an external camera, not a built
> in one.  I just don;t think the image quality will be good enough to use a
> typical webcam.
>
> The issue that arises is finding a video camera that is capable of sending
> what it's seeing in real time to a laptop via Firewire or USB, whether or
> not it is recording it to whatever medium it uses.  Most of the streaming
> services have camera recommendations, but they are all miniDV cameras and,
> as far as I can tell, that technology is old enough that nobody makes
> cameras that use it any longer.
>
> I know it's a long shot but does anyone have any knowledge in this area?
>
> Thanks,
>
>
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Re: Sample stack demonstrating how to obtain all properties and custom properties of a stack?

[Bob Sneidar]

I meant all at once as in set the properties of this stack to theSavedProperties

Bob


On Dec 28, 2011, at 10:16 AM, Mark Wieder wrote:

> Bob-
> 
> Wednesday, December 28, 2011, 8:31:54 AM, you wrote:
> 
>> Putting the standard properties back is a bit trickier though. I
>> don't think you can set the properties of a stack.


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SoCal LUG meeting: Jan 5

[Richard Gaskin]

Barring any city-wide declarations of a state of emergency, we're all 
set for our next LiveCode User Group meeting next week in Pasadena - 
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Re: matchChunk question

[Peter M. Brigham, MD]

Any reason not to just use

put numtochar(8) into tempDelim
replace <4-char-sequence> with tempDelim in tString
set the itemdelimiter to tempDelim

?

-- Peter

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On Dec 27, 2011, at 5:35 PM, Mark Smith wrote:

> Thanks, worked perfectly. changing the expression to "(\" & quote & "v" & "\"
> & quote & ":)" resulted in true, 422, 425 in the output. What I am
> attempting to do is define a rather complicated item delimiter, in this case
> made up of the 4 char sequence "v":  If I can define where this occurs I can
> break the input up into chunks. 
> 
> Best,
> 
> -- Mark
> 
> --
> View this message in context: 
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[OT] LIve Video Streaming

[Pete]

I'm involved in a project to stream a music concert live over the internet.
 I've used streaming services before (not the least livecode tv with
ustream) but this is a bit different.

The main difference is that I need to use an external camera, not a built
in one.  I just don;t think the image quality will be good enough to use a
typical webcam.

The issue that arises is finding a video camera that is capable of sending
what it's seeing in real time to a laptop via Firewire or USB, whether or
not it is recording it to whatever medium it uses.  Most of the streaming
services have camera recommendations, but they are all miniDV cameras and,
as far as I can tell, that technology is old enough that nobody makes
cameras that use it any longer.

I know it's a long shot but does anyone have any knowledge in this area?

Thanks,


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Re: Sample stack demonstrating how to obtain all properties and custom properties of a stack?

[Mark Wieder]

Bob-

Wednesday, December 28, 2011, 8:31:54 AM, you wrote:

> Putting the standard properties back is a bit trickier though. I
> don't think you can set the properties of a stack.

Most of them you can. Some are read-only. If you wrap your code below
in a try-catch construct you can avoid the errors.

> I think you have
> to loop through them. repeat for each element pProp in
> theStackProps;set the pProp of this stack to theStackProps[pProp]
> off the top of my head. 

Oh - and there are a few (can't remember off the top of my own head)
that have to be done in the proper order, particularly the ones that
deal with height/width/right/left/top/bottom, etc.

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Re: Initial Orientation

[Dan Friedman]

Colin,

Your question led me straight to the answer!  I added this to my preOpenStack 
handler:

put the screenRect into tRect
add 20 to item 2 of tRect --to account for the status bar
set the rect of this stack to tRect

Now it works perfectly!  Thank you!!

-Dan


> What size is your card, and what size is the screen? If they are the same, 
> does anything change if you make the card size something different?


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Re: Initial Orientation

[Colin Holgate]

What size is your card, and what size is the screen? If they are the same, does 
anything change if you make the card size something different?
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Re: Crashing Ubuntu 11.10 with LC 4.5

[Richard Gaskin]

David C. wrote:


On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Richard Gaskin
 wrote:


In terms of design, it's almost as big a departure from earlier versions as
OS X is from Mac OS 9.  And as with my Mac experience, the transition was a
bit jarring at first, and I initially complained about not being as
productive.  But with both OS X and Unity, the more time I spend with the
new system the more I like it.


Richard,
How would you rate your experience/satisfaction level so far, as it
applies to actual LC development using Unity?


Pretty much as with any other distro I've worked with:  under-the-hood 
operations (string manipulation, calculations) perform on par with other 
platforms, but some aspects of text rendering are noticeably slower.


And of course there's the lack of feature parity with other platforms 
RunRev supports, like missing externals, video playback as weak as on 
Windows, weak drag-and-drop support, and a few others.


These weaknesses in the Linux engine are especially ironic since 
MetaCard was born on Unix and historically maintained good parity as new 
platforms were added, and moreover the Linux engine costs twice as much 
as other platforms while delivering less. :\


That said, overall few of these affect my work (except video playback, 
which also also hinders opportunities for my Windows apps), so for most 
projects I'm able to do what I need to do on whatever platform I happen 
to be using that day.


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Initial Orientation

[Dan Friedman]

Greetings!

I have a iPad project I am working on... in the resizeStack routine, I am 
resizing all the controls on all the cards so when they rotate the iPad, 
everything will update and look pretty.  This is working great!

My problem is when the app launches, apparently no "resizeStack" message is 
sent.  So, if the user has the devise rotated differently that when I saved the 
stack, the app appears in the wrong rotation.  If you then rotate the device, 
everything updates correctly.

I have put resizeStack messages in preOpenStack and openStack.  I also tried a 
"send "resizeStack" to this stack in 0 ticks"  which did not fix the problem.  
If I send it in 1 second, it works but yuck!

I am sure there is a "proper" way to handle this situation... anyone know how 
to deal with this issue?

Thank you in advance!
-Dan
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Re: Sample stack demonstrating how to obtain all properties and custom properties of a stack?

[Bob Sneidar]

Get the customProperties of a stack. It is an array. Get the properties of a 
stack. It is (almost) all of the properties of the stack as an array. at this 
point the easiest thing to do to save them as a file on disk is to 
arrayEncode() them and write them to a low level file. Not sure if you need to 
base64 encode them too. Only way to tell is to try. See open file, read from 
file, and write to file in the dictionary. 

Putting the standard properties back is a bit trickier though. I don't think 
you can set the properties of a stack. I think you have to loop through them. 
repeat for each element pProp in theStackProps;set the pProp of this stack to 
theStackProps[pProp] off the top of my head. 

You may however be able to just set the customProperties of a stack. 

Bob


On Dec 28, 2011, at 12:38 AM, Keith (Gulf Breeze Ortho Lab) wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> Does anyone know of a sample stack demonstrating how to pull all of the 
> properties and custom properties out of a stack, putting them into a file, 
> and then demonstrating how to put the file of data back into the stack (or 
> into another copy or clone of the original stack)?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> - Boo
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Sample stack demonstrating how to obtain all properties and custom properties of a stack?

[Keith (Gulf Breeze Ortho Lab)]

Hi All,

Does anyone know of a sample stack demonstrating how to pull all of the 
properties and custom properties out of a stack, putting them into a file, and 
then demonstrating how to put the file of data back into the stack (or into 
another copy or clone of the original stack)?

Thanks,

- Boo
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