Re: The road ahead
On 09/07/2013, at 4:53 PM, Terence Heaford wrote: So you should get your hands on these tasty treats by late autumn of this year! Late Autumn is a fairly vague timeframe... My guess is that means the end of the year... Resolution independence is well under way with the work Ian is doing on the graphics library. The others need to wait for things to be done in the right order I think... -- M E R Goulding Software development services Bespoke application development for vertical markets mergExt - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Object Architecture ?
IDE: Object Architecture My take on this was that the IDE part implies this is restructuring of the IDE and not a feature of the engine or language at all. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LiveCode and WebSockets
Thanks Pierre, I'm pretty sure I could make something like that work but it's a nasty kludge, I'm not in any hurry (busy with non-LiveCode projects at the moment anyway) and when I get around to looking at it, I want to do it properly. :) From: Pierre Sahores s...@sahores-conseil.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Tuesday, 9 July 2013, 0:56 Subject: Re: LiveCode and WebSockets Mark , Should work (untested) : Node.js on the server side + revBrowser (desktop) or mobileBrowser (iOS/android) + some js + a href…client-side pseudo urls/a to get catched by : on browserLoadRequested pUrl, pType -- prefered on the iOS platform (desktop platforms untested) end browserLoadRequested and on browserStartedLoading pUrl -- prefered on the Android platform (desktop platforms untested) end browserStartedLoading to being able to exchange bidirectional messages between your web layer to the native livecode one. note : your web view pseudo URLs needs to match existing files (workingpath/file.html…) in your client app sandboxed cache or document directory to be catchable on the Android platform at least. To maintain a common codebase with the iOS app, i have the habit to create the on this platform too. Pierre ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LiveCode and WebSockets
Would you care to discuss the difference between websockets and the socketswe work with in livecode or point me to some basic information on the websocket implementation you think we could implement in pure livecode? What things would keep it from working very efficiently? I see you already have some good references. Proper websockets implement a protocol on top of standard TCP socket connections on port 80. I think you could write or port an implementation of this protocol directly using the sockets available in desktop LiveCode. For socket.io there are also other transports available (i.e. web sockets are emulated over some other transport). I think it might be possible to implement the XHR-polling transport in LiveCode, using load URL for the GET request (with the header set to keep the connection alive - it doesn't return anything until the server wants to send you something) and doing standard HTTP posts. What I don't know is whether LiveCode can actually do a POST request while you still have an async load operation running, or whether it will keep the HTTP connection alive as required by XHR-polling (a.k.a. long polling) rather than just timing out?? As for efficiency, LiveCode has pretty good performance because the language is very high level, so each line of code typically does quite a lot in native code in the engine underneath. Implementing a protocol is quite a low-level thing to do in such a high-level language, parsing/formatting all the messages in LiveCode directly is probably quite computationally expensive vs just putting/getting the content of those messages into/from a websocket object that handles the formatting/parsing for you in native code. Also, as Pierre said, you could kludge this through the browser too, using the socket.io client directly. That's going to be much, much less efficient though. Mark ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LiveCode and WebSockets
Many thanks for this useful reference link Andrew Le 9 juil. 2013 à 02:32, Andrew Kluthe a écrit : I had read that, and found some other useful info here as well. https://github.com/LearnBoost/socket.io-spec Andrew -- Pierre Sahores mobile : 06 03 95 77 70 www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: The road ahead
The end of the year wouldn't be bad. Other development environments have found it really difficult to incorporate the transition to Cocoa from Carbon and it has taken far, far longer than the initial plan. Hopefully LiveCode will not suffer the same fate. All the best Terry On 9 Jul 2013, at 08:42, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com wrote: On 09/07/2013, at 4:53 PM, Terence Heaford wrote: So you should get your hands on these tasty treats by late autumn of this year! Late Autumn is a fairly vague timeframe... My guess is that means the end of the year... Resolution independence is well under way with the work Ian is doing on the graphics library. The others need to wait for things to be done in the right order I think... -- M E R Goulding Software development services Bespoke application development for vertical markets mergExt - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: On-Rev Desktop App not working (Mac)
Matthias Rebbe matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de wrote: if your account was moved to or is on one of the new servers like tio or pancake then the on-rev client will not work at the moment. That is. It's tio, now. There is still some hope Runrev will fix this. At least David Williams from Runrev told me that he has access to the source code of the client and that he will have a look at it if time allows. OK. I for myself am doing coding/ftp now with Coda2 and Transmit under Mac OSX. This works very smooth. I am using Cyberduck, which is good also. But i would prefer to use on-rev client again, especially because of its debugging features. Me too :-) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
How to increase the textsize of HTMLtext proportional?
Hello, I give the user the option to change the textsize of all fields. No problem so far by just changing the textsize and adjusting the field size. Now I have a field with different textsizes in one field. Like bold and bigger headlines, and standard text, etc. How would you change the textsize of such a text by keeping the size relation of the different chunks of text? Should I look up the HTMLtext and manipulate every font size attribute - or is there a more straight forward approach, I don't see? Thanks Tiemo ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: How to increase the textsize of HTMLtext proportional?
Tiemo Hollmann wrote: How would you change the textsize of such a text by keeping the size relation of the different chunks of text? Should I look up the HTMLtext and manipulate every font size attribute - or is there a more straight forward approach, I don't see? I asked this question here a few years back, and there were many good solutions presented, with Malte's being the fastest IIRC: http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-livecode/2005-July/061750.html -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/FourthWorldSys ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: How to increase the textsize of HTMLtext proportional?
You might look at styledtext which returns an array describing all the text variations in the field. Very handy. On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 7:47 AM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.comwrote: Tiemo Hollmann wrote: How would you change the textsize of such a text by keeping the size relation of the different chunks of text? Should I look up the HTMLtext and manipulate every font size attribute - or is there a more straight forward approach, I don't see? I asked this question here a few years back, and there were many good solutions presented, with Malte's being the fastest IIRC: http://lists.runrev.com/**pipermail/use-livecode/2005-**July/061750.htmlhttp://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-livecode/2005-July/061750.html -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/**FourthWorldSyshttp://twitter.com/FourthWorldSys __**_ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/**mailman/listinfo/use-livecodehttp://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: How to increase the textsize of HTMLtext proportional?
I was interested in this discussion so I pasted the source of the link below into a field and copied the code into a button. Be careful. This code does not account for the case where the text string size= is in the content of the html. In this case the size= string is in the pre block. -= Mike On Jul 9, 2013, at 9:47 AM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: I asked this question here a few years back, and there were many good solutions presented, with Malte's being the fastest IIRC: http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-livecode/2005-July/061750.html ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: How to increase the textsize of HTMLtext proportional?
I think this solves the problem. You want to make sure that there is a but not if it is found after a . on mouseUp put the htmlText of fld 1 into theHtml replace size=quote with size=numtoChar(1500) in theHTML set the itemdel to numToChar(1500) if the number of items of theHTML1 then put 0 into itemCount repeat for each item theItem in theHTML add 1 to itemCount if itemCount=1 then put theItem into newHTML next repeat end if put 1 into counter put offset (, theItem) into tLeft put offset ( , theItem) into tRight if tLeft 0 then -- found it if tRight 0 and tRight tLeft then-- found and after which is ok repeat forever add 1 to counter if char counter of theItem=quote then exit repeat end repeat put char 1 to counter-1 of theItem into theSize put theSize + 1 into theSize put theSize into char 1 to counter-1 of theItem end if end if put quotetheItem after newHTML end repeat set the htmlText of fld test to newHTML end if set the textSize of fld test to \ the effective textSize of fld test+1 end mouseUp On Jul 9, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Mike Bonner bonnm...@gmail.com wrote: You might look at styledtext which returns an array describing all the text variations in the field. Very handy. On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 7:47 AM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.comwrote: Tiemo Hollmann wrote: How would you change the textsize of such a text by keeping the size relation of the different chunks of text? Should I look up the HTMLtext and manipulate every font size attribute - or is there a more straight forward approach, I don't see? I asked this question here a few years back, and there were many good solutions presented, with Malte's being the fastest IIRC: http://lists.runrev.com/**pipermail/use-livecode/2005-**July/061750.htmlhttp://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-livecode/2005-July/061750.html -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/**FourthWorldSyshttp://twitter.com/FourthWorldSys __**_ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/**mailman/listinfo/use-livecodehttp://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
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AW: How to increase the textsize of HTMLtext proportional?
Great thanks Richard, Mike and Michael Very helpful! Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Michael Doub Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. Juli 2013 19:31 An: How to use LiveCode Betreff: Re: How to increase the textsize of HTMLtext proportional? I think this solves the problem. You want to make sure that there is a but not if it is found after a . on mouseUp put the htmlText of fld 1 into theHtml replace size=quote with size=numtoChar(1500) in theHTML set the itemdel to numToChar(1500) if the number of items of theHTML1 then put 0 into itemCount repeat for each item theItem in theHTML add 1 to itemCount if itemCount=1 then put theItem into newHTML next repeat end if put 1 into counter put offset (, theItem) into tLeft put offset ( , theItem) into tRight if tLeft 0 then -- found it if tRight 0 and tRight tLeft then-- found and after which is ok repeat forever add 1 to counter if char counter of theItem=quote then exit repeat end repeat put char 1 to counter-1 of theItem into theSize put theSize + 1 into theSize put theSize into char 1 to counter-1 of theItem end if end if put quotetheItem after newHTML end repeat set the htmlText of fld test to newHTML end if set the textSize of fld test to \ the effective textSize of fld test+1 end mouseUp On Jul 9, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Mike Bonner bonnm...@gmail.com wrote: You might look at styledtext which returns an array describing all the text variations in the field. Very handy. On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 7:47 AM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.comwrote: Tiemo Hollmann wrote: How would you change the textsize of such a text by keeping the size relation of the different chunks of text? Should I look up the HTMLtext and manipulate every font size attribute - or is there a more straight forward approach, I don't see? I asked this question here a few years back, and there were many good solutions presented, with Malte's being the fastest IIRC: http://lists.runrev.com/**pipermail/use-livecode/2005-**July/061750.h tmlhttp://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-livecode/2005-July/061750.h tml -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/**FourthWorldSyshttp://twitter.com/FourthWorldSys __**_ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/**mailman/listinfo/use-livecodehttp://lists. runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
on-rev reliability ?
Hi folks, I'm back on this list after a few of years (although I never stopped using LC). I'd like to get opinions and experiences about on-rev... I have been using the service for almost 3 years via 3 different accounts, and have built professional apps websites on LC on-rev, and several companies are using these apps and have built their business around them. Everything worked seamlessly for almost 2 years, but last february march, we started experiencing huge frequent server (thor) crashes and slowdowns, which put us in a terrible situation towards our clients who threatened to sue us because we weren't delivering the service they paid for... Meanwhile, one of our accounts was moved to a new server (pancake) but it appeared that something went wrong during the move, because we experienced random bugs in some scripts that lead to corrupted data in DBs and random errors in automatically generated pdf files (invoices for instance)... To solve this problem, I had to move all scripts, files and DBs to another account of ours still on thor... Last but not least, for the last few days, we had a few server crashes again, and of course our clients yelling at us... Last week-end I also noticed some erratic behavior during ftp transfer that lead to corrupted scripts and huge bugs in web pages... Searching through the list archives I found a few posts mentioning that thor was down again, but nobody seemed to be in a panic business-wise because of that... So finally, here's my question / request : we have the feeling that most of the problems are due to the fact that thor is a shared server and that some other on-rev users are playing dirty games, and we are thinking of moving our accounts to a dedicated server. Before subscribing to on-rev, I had a Revolution engine installed on a dedicated Linux server an experienced crashes or slowdowns only 2 or 3 times a year, not every 2 or 3 days... Does anyone on this list have built rather sophisticated with Livecode on-rev ? If yes, how do you deal with all those server problems ? Thanks in advance for any opinion, and sorry for the long post... jbv ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
[OT] Packtpub?
Packtpub, apparently an India-based published operation concerned largely with computer stuff have asked me to be involved in editing a publication. What is unclear to me, and they don't seem to want to answer . . . . . . is what their academic standing is as well as the extent of their market reach. What is also unclear is how they select their editors as they have made no enquiry as to an academic qualifications I may have, years of experience in the field and so on. This strikes me as very odd indeed. I came across your discussion, and felt that you would be an ideal person to review this book for us. Is opaque in the extreme: what discussion? where? and what on earth would that actually tell you about either my ability to review a publication or my academic bona fides vis-a-vis computer programming. Now all they are offering me for my work seems to be a hard copy of the book plus another from their stable of publications. That is all very jolly, but it is not what motivates me; what does is the fact that my c.v. has got a bit thin on the ground recently, and the odd editorship and/or publication would spice things up a bit when/if I decide to apply for a new job. What I am really wondering is whether this will have any sort of clout in a c.v at all, or is just a bit of fun to get a couple of books. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Packtpub?
Hi Richmond, They published Colin's book last year. That all I know about them. I received an email from them too, similar to yours. Not sure how to respond. Best - Phil Davis On 7/9/13 12:20 PM, Richmond wrote: Packtpub, apparently an India-based published operation concerned largely with computer stuff have asked me to be involved in editing a publication. What is unclear to me, and they don't seem to want to answer . . . . . . is what their academic standing is as well as the extent of their market reach. What is also unclear is how they select their editors as they have made no enquiry as to an academic qualifications I may have, years of experience in the field and so on. This strikes me as very odd indeed. I came across your discussion, and felt that you would be an ideal person to review this book for us. Is opaque in the extreme: what discussion? where? and what on earth would that actually tell you about either my ability to review a publication or my academic bona fides vis-a-vis computer programming. Now all they are offering me for my work seems to be a hard copy of the book plus another from their stable of publications. That is all very jolly, but it is not what motivates me; what does is the fact that my c.v. has got a bit thin on the ground recently, and the odd editorship and/or publication would spice things up a bit when/if I decide to apply for a new job. What I am really wondering is whether this will have any sort of clout in a c.v at all, or is just a bit of fun to get a couple of books. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Phil Davis ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Packtpub?
On 07/09/2013 10:31 PM, Phil Davis wrote: Hi Richmond, They published Colin's book last year. That all I know about them. I received an email from them too, similar to yours. Not sure how to respond. Well, I read their guff and said 'Yes', and they have sent me more guff, and I am waiting for a chap to start sending me chapters. At worse I will lose a few hours reading the book; at best a copy of the book and another one, and, just possibly, something to put on my brag-sheet. I certainly cannot see any real damage ensuing. I will have a go with this one, and then have a good long think afterwards as to any future stuff they may lob at me. I do get a slight half-a-dozen people in a small room with a couple of computers hooked up to the internet feeling; but as a Schumacher sort of capitalist, I'm going to find that hard to fault so long as they are not ripping people off. Probably the best way to 'cope' with this is to watch 'Bowfinger' [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowfinger ] and have a good laugh; BUT, make sure you do your bit 100%. That is the way I'm getting on with it. Richmond. Best - Phil Davis On 7/9/13 12:20 PM, Richmond wrote: Packtpub, apparently an India-based published operation concerned largely with computer stuff have asked me to be involved in editing a publication. What is unclear to me, and they don't seem to want to answer . . . . . . is what their academic standing is as well as the extent of their market reach. What is also unclear is how they select their editors as they have made no enquiry as to an academic qualifications I may have, years of experience in the field and so on. This strikes me as very odd indeed. I came across your discussion, and felt that you would be an ideal person to review this book for us. Is opaque in the extreme: what discussion? where? and what on earth would that actually tell you about either my ability to review a publication or my academic bona fides vis-a-vis computer programming. Now all they are offering me for my work seems to be a hard copy of the book plus another from their stable of publications. That is all very jolly, but it is not what motivates me; what does is the fact that my c.v. has got a bit thin on the ground recently, and the odd editorship and/or publication would spice things up a bit when/if I decide to apply for a new job. What I am really wondering is whether this will have any sort of clout in a c.v at all, or is just a bit of fun to get a couple of books. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
[OT] Strange OSX Problems
I am experiencing some very strange OSX 10.7.4 behavior and hoping someone may be able to shed some light on it. All works fine for some undefined period of time, then I find that no new applications will launch either from the dock or double clicking them in the FInder or right clicking them and selecting open in the Finder. No error message, just nothing happens. Applications that are already running continue to work fine. Concurrent with this, if I try to go to a new URL in my browser (Chrome), once again, nothing happens, no error message. Restarting fixes the problem but it always reoccurs after some undefined period of time. I have done the obvious things (verfying disks, repairing permissions) but they made no difference. Also checked disk space on my home drive and there's plenty available. Any diagnostic or fix ideas most welcome. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: How to increase the textsize of HTMLtext proportional?
A bit more suitable for easy reuse. on textdown BumpText the long id of field test, -1 end textdown on textup BumpText the long id of field test, 1 end textup on BumpText theObject theDirection if theDirection is not among the lines of 1 return -1 then throw Need 1 or -1 for theDirection put the htmlText of fld 1 into theHtml replace size=quote with size=numtoChar(1500) in theHTML set the itemdel to numToChar(1500) if the number of items of theHTML1 then put 0 into itemCount repeat for each item theItem in theHTML add 1 to itemCount if itemCount=1 then put theItem into newHTML next repeat end if put 1 into counter put offset (, theItem) into tClose put offset ( , theItem) into tOpen if tClose 0 then -- found it if tOpen 0 and tOpen tClose then-- found and after whis is ok repeat forever add 1 to counter if char counter of theItem=quote then exit repeat end repeat put char 1 to counter-1 of theItem into theSize put theSize + theDirection into theSize put theSize into char 1 to counter-1 of theItem end if end if put quotetheItem after newHTML end repeat set the htmlText of theObject to newHTML end if set the textSize of theObject to \ the effective textSize of theObject + theDirection end BumpText ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Packtpub?
So did I. I think they're just trolling the email list/forum. I turned them down because the title of the book indicated it was about mobile development and I know nothing about that. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Phil Davis rev...@pdslabs.net wrote: Hi Richmond, They published Colin's book last year. That all I know about them. I received an email from them too, similar to yours. Not sure how to respond. Best - Phil Davis On 7/9/13 12:20 PM, Richmond wrote: Packtpub, apparently an India-based published operation concerned largely with computer stuff have asked me to be involved in editing a publication. What is unclear to me, and they don't seem to want to answer . . . . . . is what their academic standing is as well as the extent of their market reach. What is also unclear is how they select their editors as they have made no enquiry as to an academic qualifications I may have, years of experience in the field and so on. This strikes me as very odd indeed. I came across your discussion, and felt that you would be an ideal person to review this book for us. Is opaque in the extreme: what discussion? where? and what on earth would that actually tell you about either my ability to review a publication or my academic bona fides vis-a-vis computer programming. Now all they are offering me for my work seems to be a hard copy of the book plus another from their stable of publications. That is all very jolly, but it is not what motivates me; what does is the fact that my c.v. has got a bit thin on the ground recently, and the odd editorship and/or publication would spice things up a bit when/if I decide to apply for a new job. What I am really wondering is whether this will have any sort of clout in a c.v at all, or is just a bit of fun to get a couple of books. Richmond. __**_ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/**mailman/listinfo/use-livecodehttp://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Phil Davis __**_ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/**mailman/listinfo/use-livecodehttp://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: mApp LC6.1 crash
On 10/07/2013, at 12:45 AM, Thomas McGrath III mcgra...@mac.com wrote: I have been trying to test a sample stack in 6.1 Build 2005 for iOS simulator and it just crashes immediately when selecting Test. This stack works perfectly in 5.5.5 It uses mAPP Mobile Application Framework Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread That's the one ;-) Note that you will probably need to fix the behavior of the stack and delete the stack named mAppLibrary the seconds... -- Monte Goulding M E R Goulding - software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Packtpub?
Hi Richmond, Yes, it looks like they operate from India, but the owner of the company might be in Great Britain or somewhere else. They work with interns it seems, whom they may not have to pay. They don't pay reviewers/editors and I think they pay authors per book sold. So, that's pretty much a risk-less enterprise for them (or him). They have no academic standing whatsoever. Perhaps their interns don't even know what that is. Actually, I might be misunderstanding your exact definition of academic standing as well. I don't know their market reach, but they use their own website and Amazon and that seems to work well for them. I got the same e-mail as you. Apparently, they collected e-mails on this list. I'm slightly offended, because they said I'd be _the_ ideal person, while apparently dozens or hundreds of other persons appear to be equally ideal. I'm not offended because I'm no more ideal than you, but because they don't mean what they write. If you decide to do this, consider this a fun job. It is hardly worth mentioning on your c.v. If I decide to do this, it'll be to help out the author, not for them or for me. They found the author by asking in a number of places, like forums, mailing lists, Facebook and LinkedIn. The author must have thought he was fit for the task and decided to respond to the request. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Use Color Converter to convert CMYK, RGB, RAL, XYZ, H.Lab and other colour spaces. http://www.color-converter.com We have time for new software development projects. Contact me for a quote. On 9 jul 2013, at 21:20, Richmond wrote: Packtpub, apparently an India-based published operation concerned largely with computer stuff have asked me to be involved in editing a publication. What is unclear to me, and they don't seem to want to answer . . . . . . is what their academic standing is as well as the extent of their market reach. What is also unclear is how they select their editors as they have made no enquiry as to an academic qualifications I may have, years of experience in the field and so on. This strikes me as very odd indeed. I came across your discussion, and felt that you would be an ideal person to review this book for us. Is opaque in the extreme: what discussion? where? and what on earth would that actually tell you about either my ability to review a publication or my academic bona fides vis-a-vis computer programming. Now all they are offering me for my work seems to be a hard copy of the book plus another from their stable of publications. That is all very jolly, but it is not what motivates me; what does is the fact that my c.v. has got a bit thin on the ground recently, and the odd editorship and/or publication would spice things up a bit when/if I decide to apply for a new job. What I am really wondering is whether this will have any sort of clout in a c.v at all, or is just a bit of fun to get a couple of books. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: on-rev reliability ?
I have not made any sophisticated solutions on on-rev. However, The servers where seldomly down for me. I was on Loki, and during the server move was transferred to tio. I don't think i've had many major downs, altho I am mostly judging it by the availability of email service (am not checking my site regularly). I too have seen a lot of mentions of thor downtimes. It seems to me, that one is a dirty server somehow, at least compared to the ones I was/am on. Said that, if you worry about downtime so much, I am very sure that a single failure shared hosting point like on-rev is not what you want, not even my experience. Neither would of course be dreamhost, networksolutions or other such services. You'd need a dedicated machine (rack space), or a cloud based account like amazon offers. Those do cost money and are harder to set up and also need more work to maintain. On 09.07.2013, at 20:32, j...@souslelogo.com wrote: Hi folks, I'm back on this list after a few of years (although I never stopped using LC). I'd like to get opinions and experiences about on-rev... I have been using the service for almost 3 years via 3 different accounts, and have built professional apps websites on LC on-rev, and several companies are using these apps and have built their business around them. Everything worked seamlessly for almost 2 years, but last february march, we started experiencing huge frequent server (thor) crashes and slowdowns, which put us in a terrible situation towards our clients who threatened to sue us because we weren't delivering the service they paid for... Meanwhile, one of our accounts was moved to a new server (pancake) but it appeared that something went wrong during the move, because we experienced random bugs in some scripts that lead to corrupted data in DBs and random errors in automatically generated pdf files (invoices for instance)... To solve this problem, I had to move all scripts, files and DBs to another account of ours still on thor... Last but not least, for the last few days, we had a few server crashes again, and of course our clients yelling at us... Last week-end I also noticed some erratic behavior during ftp transfer that lead to corrupted scripts and huge bugs in web pages... Searching through the list archives I found a few posts mentioning that thor was down again, but nobody seemed to be in a panic business-wise because of that... So finally, here's my question / request : we have the feeling that most of the problems are due to the fact that thor is a shared server and that some other on-rev users are playing dirty games, and we are thinking of moving our accounts to a dedicated server. Before subscribing to on-rev, I had a Revolution engine installed on a dedicated Linux server an experienced crashes or slowdowns only 2 or 3 times a year, not every 2 or 3 days... Does anyone on this list have built rather sophisticated with Livecode on-rev ? If yes, how do you deal with all those server problems ? Thanks in advance for any opinion, and sorry for the long post... jbv ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Use an alternative Dictionary viewer: http://bjoernke.com/bvgdocu/ Chat with other RunRev developers: http://bjoernke.com/chatrev/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Strange OSX Problems
Hi Peter, If I were you I'd also run a disk diagnostic program like DiskWarrior just to see everything on your hard drive is correct. Do a full backup of your computer hard drive with Time Machine or else do a full image backup. Then, realize that OS X.7.4 is not current and upgrade to OS X.7.5. Try running the Activity Monitor to see if there is anything out of the ordinary taking up the CPU cycles that shouldn't be. If the problem still doesn't go away then: Try running a Virus Scanning program just to be sure you haven't picked up a trojan anywhere from the internet. (That's a long shot, but may be worth the piece of mind.) Sometimes a failing hard drive will lock things up too. Try booting in Safe Mode to see if the problem goes away. If it does then there is something else going on. Hope this helps! Rick On Jul 9, 2013, at 3:49 PM, Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote: I am experiencing some very strange OSX 10.7.4 behavior and hoping someone may be able to shed some light on it. All works fine for some undefined period of time, then I find that no new applications will launch either from the dock or double clicking them in the FInder or right clicking them and selecting open in the Finder. No error message, just nothing happens. Applications that are already running continue to work fine. Concurrent with this, if I try to go to a new URL in my browser (Chrome), once again, nothing happens, no error message. Restarting fixes the problem but it always reoccurs after some undefined period of time. I have done the obvious things (verfying disks, repairing permissions) but they made no difference. Also checked disk space on my home drive and there's plenty available. Any diagnostic or fix ideas most welcome. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Packtpub?
I got one too, they write me a couple of times a year. I reviewed a book outline for them once. They don't pay for any of that. On 7/9/13 2:31 PM, Phil Davis wrote: Hi Richmond, They published Colin's book last year. That all I know about them. I received an email from them too, similar to yours. Not sure how to respond. Best - Phil Davis On 7/9/13 12:20 PM, Richmond wrote: Packtpub, apparently an India-based published operation concerned largely with computer stuff have asked me to be involved in editing a publication. What is unclear to me, and they don't seem to want to answer . . . . . . is what their academic standing is as well as the extent of their market reach. What is also unclear is how they select their editors as they have made no enquiry as to an academic qualifications I may have, years of experience in the field and so on. This strikes me as very odd indeed. I came across your discussion, and felt that you would be an ideal person to review this book for us. Is opaque in the extreme: what discussion? where? and what on earth would that actually tell you about either my ability to review a publication or my academic bona fides vis-a-vis computer programming. Now all they are offering me for my work seems to be a hard copy of the book plus another from their stable of publications. That is all very jolly, but it is not what motivates me; what does is the fact that my c.v. has got a bit thin on the ground recently, and the odd editorship and/or publication would spice things up a bit when/if I decide to apply for a new job. What I am really wondering is whether this will have any sort of clout in a c.v at all, or is just a bit of fun to get a couple of books. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
[OT] Packtpub?
Packtpub, apparently an India-based published operation concerned largely with computer stuff have asked me to be involved in editing a publication. They are India-based, but they do get technical books into retail. Ive seen plenty and read a couple - a Joomla book, plus another one. Is opaque in the extreme: what discussion? where? and what on earth would that actually tell you about either my ability to review a publication or my academic bona fides vis-a-vis computer programming. Now all they are offering me for my work seems to be a hard copy of the book plus another from their stable of publications. That is all very jolly, but it is not what motivates me; what does is the fact that my c.v. has got a bit thin on the ground recently, and the odd editorship and/or publication would spice things up a bit when/if I decide to apply for a new job. What I am really wondering is whether this will have any sort of clout in a c.v at all, or is just a bit of fun to get a couple of books. They aren't as well known as O'Reilley but they are willing to publish books on relatively new (or not that well known) technologies. Sometimes they get a bit spammy on promotions, but I lay that more to someone inside being assigned to promote a book and getting overzealous. It wouldn't look good if they paid you to review a book - getting a free copy is about what they can do. Its not like doctors going to pharma lectures ;-) Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software http://www.paradigmasoft.com Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Strange OSX Problems
Thanks Rick, I'll check into all those things. Searching on the web, it appears the most likely cause is an impending hard drive failure. Fortunately, I use Time Machine to do regular backups so, with a few exceptions like temp and caches, I have a complete, up to date backup. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Rick Harrison harri...@all-auctions.comwrote: Hi Peter, If I were you I'd also run a disk diagnostic program like DiskWarrior just to see everything on your hard drive is correct. Do a full backup of your computer hard drive with Time Machine or else do a full image backup. Then, realize that OS X.7.4 is not current and upgrade to OS X.7.5. Try running the Activity Monitor to see if there is anything out of the ordinary taking up the CPU cycles that shouldn't be. If the problem still doesn't go away then: Try running a Virus Scanning program just to be sure you haven't picked up a trojan anywhere from the internet. (That's a long shot, but may be worth the piece of mind.) Sometimes a failing hard drive will lock things up too. Try booting in Safe Mode to see if the problem goes away. If it does then there is something else going on. Hope this helps! Rick On Jul 9, 2013, at 3:49 PM, Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote: I am experiencing some very strange OSX 10.7.4 behavior and hoping someone may be able to shed some light on it. All works fine for some undefined period of time, then I find that no new applications will launch either from the dock or double clicking them in the FInder or right clicking them and selecting open in the Finder. No error message, just nothing happens. Applications that are already running continue to work fine. Concurrent with this, if I try to go to a new URL in my browser (Chrome), once again, nothing happens, no error message. Restarting fixes the problem but it always reoccurs after some undefined period of time. I have done the obvious things (verfying disks, repairing permissions) but they made no difference. Also checked disk space on my home drive and there's plenty available. Any diagnostic or fix ideas most welcome. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Packtpub?
They also asked me. Glad they asked enough people to hopefully get a couple of takers. I have been a reviewer on two Packt books, both SketchUp ones, and it’s an interesting task to take on. You end up reading the book more closely than you would if you were a regular reader. Also, you go through every single exercise in the book, so that you can then pass back comments about any points of confusion. There’s a small amount of money you get too, but for the two books I reviewed I told them not to bother paying me, it wasn’t enough money to be worth the hassle of declaring it in my income. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Packtpub?
Hi Colin, You don't get paid (anymore) for reviewing or editing a book. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Use Color Converter to convert CMYK, RGB, RAL, XYZ, H.Lab and other colour spaces. http://www.color-converter.com We have time for new software development projects. Contact me for a quote. On 9 jul 2013, at 23:22, Colin Holgate wrote: They also asked me. Glad they asked enough people to hopefully get a couple of takers. I have been a reviewer on two Packt books, both SketchUp ones, and it’s an interesting task to take on. You end up reading the book more closely than you would if you were a regular reader. Also, you go through every single exercise in the book, so that you can then pass back comments about any points of confusion. There’s a small amount of money you get too, but for the two books I reviewed I told them not to bother paying me, it wasn’t enough money to be worth the hassle of declaring it in my income. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Packtpub?
Oh, wait a sec. I don't mean you specifically ;-) -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Use Color Converter to convert CMYK, RGB, RAL, XYZ, H.Lab and other colour spaces. http://www.color-converter.com Buy my new book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner http://qery.us/3fi Fill out this survey please http://livecodebeginner.economy-x-talk.com/survey/ On 7/9/2013 23:29, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Colin, You don't get paid (anymore) for reviewing or editing a book. On 9 jul 2013, at 23:22, Colin Holgate wrote: They also asked me. Glad they asked enough people to hopefully get a couple of takers. I have been a reviewer on two Packt books, both SketchUp ones, and it’s an interesting task to take on. You end up reading the book more closely than you would if you were a regular reader. Also, you go through every single exercise in the book, so that you can then pass back comments about any points of confusion. There’s a small amount of money you get too, but for the two books I reviewed I told them not to bother paying me, it wasn’t enough money to be worth the hassle of declaring it in my income. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: on-rev reliability ?
jbv, Le 9 juil. 2013 à 20:32, j...@souslelogo.com a écrit : Meanwhile, one of our accounts was moved to a new server (pancake) but it appeared that something went wrong during the move, because we experienced random bugs in some scripts that lead to corrupted data in DBs and random errors in automatically generated pdf files (invoices for instance)... To solve this problem, I had to move all scripts, files and DBs to another account of ours still on thor… AFAIK, the PostgreSQL version installed on pancake (8.4.13) the one i relied before on Loki (8.1.x) needed me to update some of my revDB calls to get my LC-Server apps OK. Was not a LC problem but a PostgreSQL one. If your LC-Server powered apps don't rely on a PostgreSQL backend, the problem should be elsewhere (MySQL ?) but in case of yes, see below what revDB call update went needed on my side, very simple to the end (all the statements containing a WHERE close have to be updated) : What worked fine before against PostgreSQL 8.1.x : put SELECT * FROM CustArticles WHERE article_chemin = ' tparam2 ' into sqlStatement put revQueryDatabase(myDatabaseID,sqlStatement) into dbCursorID need to become against PostgreSQL 8.4.13 : put SELECT * FROM CustArticles WHERE CAST(article_chemin as TEXT) = ' tparam2 ' into sqlStatement put revQueryDatabase(myDatabaseID,sqlStatement) into dbCursorID Same kind of pg syntax update are needed against the DELETE … WHERE and UPDATE … WHERE statements. That said, pancake is against my own LC-Server/PostgreSQL production apps (previously installed on loki) a very trustable and reliable platform with no down time at all (alike this seems to happen, time to time, against some other on-rev servers even if my own apps went running perfectly fine too when they went hosted on loki). widestep UptimeOutages Response time 100.00% 1 462 ms Downtimes From To Downtime 2013-06-12 12:13:27 2013-06-12 12:14:27 0h 01m 00s This is a scheduled report from Pingdom. If you wish to no longer receive this report you can unsubscribe by logging in to My Pingdom and update your email report settings. Copyright © 2013 Pingdom AB HTH, -- Pierre Sahores mobile : 06 03 95 77 70 www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Strange OSX Problems
I got this kind of troubles before and the HD was effectivelly in fault. Replacing it solved 100% of the problem. Le 9 juil. 2013 à 23:19, Peter Haworth a écrit : Thanks Rick, I'll check into all those things. Searching on the web, it appears the most likely cause is an impending hard drive failure. Fortunately, I use Time Machine to do regular backups so, with a few exceptions like temp and caches, I have a complete, up to date backup. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Rick Harrison harri...@all-auctions.comwrote: Hi Peter, If I were you I'd also run a disk diagnostic program like DiskWarrior just to see everything on your hard drive is correct. Do a full backup of your computer hard drive with Time Machine or else do a full image backup. Then, realize that OS X.7.4 is not current and upgrade to OS X.7.5. Try running the Activity Monitor to see if there is anything out of the ordinary taking up the CPU cycles that shouldn't be. If the problem still doesn't go away then: Try running a Virus Scanning program just to be sure you haven't picked up a trojan anywhere from the internet. (That's a long shot, but may be worth the piece of mind.) Sometimes a failing hard drive will lock things up too. Try booting in Safe Mode to see if the problem goes away. If it does then there is something else going on. Hope this helps! Rick On Jul 9, 2013, at 3:49 PM, Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote: I am experiencing some very strange OSX 10.7.4 behavior and hoping someone may be able to shed some light on it. All works fine for some undefined period of time, then I find that no new applications will launch either from the dock or double clicking them in the FInder or right clicking them and selecting open in the Finder. No error message, just nothing happens. Applications that are already running continue to work fine. Concurrent with this, if I try to go to a new URL in my browser (Chrome), once again, nothing happens, no error message. Restarting fixes the problem but it always reoccurs after some undefined period of time. I have done the obvious things (verfying disks, repairing permissions) but they made no difference. Also checked disk space on my home drive and there's plenty available. Any diagnostic or fix ideas most welcome. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Pierre Sahores mobile : 06 03 95 77 70 www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Strange OSX Problems
Thanks Pierre, I'm afraid it's looking like I will have to get a new hard drive. Thank goodness for Time Machine! Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Pierre Sahores s...@sahores-conseil.comwrote: I got this kind of troubles before and the HD was effectivelly in fault. Replacing it solved 100% of the problem. Le 9 juil. 2013 à 23:19, Peter Haworth a écrit : Thanks Rick, I'll check into all those things. Searching on the web, it appears the most likely cause is an impending hard drive failure. Fortunately, I use Time Machine to do regular backups so, with a few exceptions like temp and caches, I have a complete, up to date backup. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Rick Harrison harri...@all-auctions.com wrote: Hi Peter, If I were you I'd also run a disk diagnostic program like DiskWarrior just to see everything on your hard drive is correct. Do a full backup of your computer hard drive with Time Machine or else do a full image backup. Then, realize that OS X.7.4 is not current and upgrade to OS X.7.5. Try running the Activity Monitor to see if there is anything out of the ordinary taking up the CPU cycles that shouldn't be. If the problem still doesn't go away then: Try running a Virus Scanning program just to be sure you haven't picked up a trojan anywhere from the internet. (That's a long shot, but may be worth the piece of mind.) Sometimes a failing hard drive will lock things up too. Try booting in Safe Mode to see if the problem goes away. If it does then there is something else going on. Hope this helps! Rick On Jul 9, 2013, at 3:49 PM, Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote: I am experiencing some very strange OSX 10.7.4 behavior and hoping someone may be able to shed some light on it. All works fine for some undefined period of time, then I find that no new applications will launch either from the dock or double clicking them in the FInder or right clicking them and selecting open in the Finder. No error message, just nothing happens. Applications that are already running continue to work fine. Concurrent with this, if I try to go to a new URL in my browser (Chrome), once again, nothing happens, no error message. Restarting fixes the problem but it always reoccurs after some undefined period of time. I have done the obvious things (verfying disks, repairing permissions) but they made no difference. Also checked disk space on my home drive and there's plenty available. Any diagnostic or fix ideas most welcome. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Pierre Sahores mobile : 06 03 95 77 70 www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: on-rev reliability ?
I have been on freyr and then recently was moved to pancake. I would say that my experience parallels yours, though, thankfully, not with clients -- just our own company. I don't run programs at all -- just http forms on our website and email for our 30 employees. We have experienced a /lot/ of trouble with email -- which really hurts business. Also, we do radio and tv programs, and let viewers contact us via the web page. We're just a local program so the volume is not huge, but, still, when the web page goes down a couple hours before airtime, it is very stressful. Just yesterday, our email was down again for 2 or 3 hours in the middle of the afternoon. Frankly, I think we're going to have to give up on on-rev, and I've got egg all over my face for having recommended them to the company during the 'founder' campaign Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan On 7/10/13 3:32 AM, j...@souslelogo.com wrote: Hi folks, I'm back on this list after a few of years (although I never stopped using LC). I'd like to get opinions and experiences about on-rev... I have been using the service for almost 3 years via 3 different accounts, and have built professional apps websites on LC on-rev, and several companies are using these apps and have built their business around them. Everything worked seamlessly for almost 2 years, but last february march, we started experiencing huge frequent server (thor) crashes and slowdowns, which put us in a terrible situation towards our clients who threatened to sue us because we weren't delivering the service they paid for... Meanwhile, one of our accounts was moved to a new server (pancake) but it appeared that something went wrong during the move, because we experienced random bugs in some scripts that lead to corrupted data in DBs and random errors in automatically generated pdf files (invoices for instance)... To solve this problem, I had to move all scripts, files and DBs to another account of ours still on thor... Last but not least, for the last few days, we had a few server crashes again, and of course our clients yelling at us... Last week-end I also noticed some erratic behavior during ftp transfer that lead to corrupted scripts and huge bugs in web pages... Searching through the list archives I found a few posts mentioning that thor was down again, but nobody seemed to be in a panic business-wise because of that... So finally, here's my question / request : we have the feeling that most of the problems are due to the fact that thor is a shared server and that some other on-rev users are playing dirty games, and we are thinking of moving our accounts to a dedicated server. Before subscribing to on-rev, I had a Revolution engine installed on a dedicated Linux server an experienced crashes or slowdowns only 2 or 3 times a year, not every 2 or 3 days... Does anyone on this list have built rather sophisticated with Livecode on-rev ? If yes, how do you deal with all those server problems ? Thanks in advance for any opinion, and sorry for the long post... jbv ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Packtpub?
Richmond richmondmathewson@... writes: Packtpub Packtpub is possibly the worst company I have ever dealt with online. What is unclear to me, and they don't seem to want to answer . . . That is correct. They answer nothing. Not queries, not support emails about why they charge a different amount than on an order, nothing. There's no contact information other than a web page that gets no responses. Emails to support go unanswered and presumably end up in a bitbucket. I'm surprised they're in India - I would have guessed Nigeria. I'd stay far away from them. Wait... did I say possibly above? Strike that. -- Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Strange OSX Problems
Peter Haworth pete@... writes: Thanks Pierre, I'm afraid it's looking like I will have to get a new hard drive. Thank goodness for Time Machine! Interesting. I just had the opposite experience. My Time Machine drive seemed like it was active constantly, and it took forever to copy a few megabytes of data to the drive. I finally realized, after some googling, that it was a faulty backup drive. I reformatted the drive, ran disk utility, and Time Machine is happy again. I no longer have backups past this last weekend, but that's a small price to pay for actually having backups now that I can rely on. -- Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: on-rev reliability ?
jbv@... writes: So finally, here's my question / request : we have the feeling that most of the problems are due to the fact that thor is a shared server and that some other on-rev users are playing dirty games, and we are thinking of moving our accounts to a dedicated server. It gets worse - because of the shared servers, the server's ip address and or address block can get blacklisted by spamhaus or other services and then you have to petition them to get back on the air. -- Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Strange OSX Problems
I'm a little suspicious of Time Machine too. In the process of verifying the drive right now. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Peter Haworth pete@... writes: Thanks Pierre, I'm afraid it's looking like I will have to get a new hard drive. Thank goodness for Time Machine! Interesting. I just had the opposite experience. My Time Machine drive seemed like it was active constantly, and it took forever to copy a few megabytes of data to the drive. I finally realized, after some googling, that it was a faulty backup drive. I reformatted the drive, ran disk utility, and Time Machine is happy again. I no longer have backups past this last weekend, but that's a small price to pay for actually having backups now that I can rely on. -- Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: on-rev reliability ?
Hi Pierre, Were you able to get phpPgAdmin to work correctly with the new version of PostgreSQL? It keeps throwing permission errors at me when it tries to execute it's SQL code for queries etc. So now we have to use WHERE CAST instead of WHERE? Who thought that would be better? Of course now I'm on the tio server so I guess my mileage may vary from yours. Thanks in advance, Rick On Jul 9, 2013, at 6:22 PM, Pierre Sahores s...@sahores-conseil.com wrote: AFAIK, the PostgreSQL version installed on pancake (8.4.13) the one i relied before on Loki (8.1.x) needed me to update some of my revDB calls to get my LC-Server apps OK. Was not a LC problem but a PostgreSQL one. If your LC-Server powered apps don't rely on a PostgreSQL backend, the problem should be elsewhere (MySQL ?) but in case of yes, see below what revDB call update went needed on my side, very simple to the end (all the statements containing a WHERE close have to be updated) : What worked fine before against PostgreSQL 8.1.x : put SELECT * FROM CustArticles WHERE article_chemin = ' tparam2 ' into sqlStatement put revQueryDatabase(myDatabaseID,sqlStatement) into dbCursorID need to become against PostgreSQL 8.4.13 : put SELECT * FROM CustArticles WHERE CAST(article_chemin as TEXT) = ' tparam2 ' into sqlStatement put revQueryDatabase(myDatabaseID,sqlStatement) into dbCursorID Same kind of pg syntax update are needed against the DELETE … WHERE and UPDATE … WHERE statements. That said, pancake is against my own LC-Server/PostgreSQL production apps (previously installed on loki) a very trustable and reliable platform with no down time at all (alike this seems to happen, time to time, against some other on-rev servers even if my own apps went running perfectly fine too when they went hosted on loki). widestep Uptime Outages Response time 100.00% 1 462 ms Downtimes From To Downtime 2013-06-12 12:13:27 2013-06-12 12:14:27 0h 01m 00s This is a scheduled report from Pingdom. If you wish to no longer receive this report you can unsubscribe by logging in to My Pingdom and update your email report settings. Copyright © 2013 Pingdom AB HTH, -- Pierre Sahores mobile : 06 03 95 77 70 www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Strange OSX Problems
Gone away from the time machine theory. The disk checked out OK and even if I switch Time Machine off, the problem still occurs. Strangely though, Disk Utility reports no problems on my main hard drive. Seems like it should have come up with something if the disk was going bad. The problem has worsened to the point where, once it occurs, everything works extremely slowly, applications won't fully quit, and if I shut the computer down from the Apple Menu, I end up on the login screen and have to shutdown from there or even physically power off. The death of a drive is never pleasant - I'll probably scatter its ashes over the rose garden. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Pete- Tuesday, July 9, 2013, 5:48:00 PM, you wrote: I'm a little suspicious of Time Machine too. In the process of verifying the drive right now. You might want to check the Time Machine logs. They should tell you if there was any trouble along the way. In my case it was pretty obvious even without the logs - the drive kept chugging away and the Time Machine status showed something like 48k transferred and then maybe an hour later it would move up to 49k. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: on-rev reliability ?
On 7/9/13 7:22 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Tim Selander selander@... writes: Just yesterday, our email was down again for 2 or 3 hours in the middle of the afternoon. Yeah, what a pain. And then when it started coming in all the emails were out of sync. Ended up getting some responses before the original questions. That was my fault. Sorry. ;) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Strange OSX Problems
On 7/9/13 10:00 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: Gone away from the time machine theory. The disk checked out OK and even if I switch Time Machine off, the problem still occurs. Strangely though, Disk Utility reports no problems on my main hard drive. Seems like it should have come up with something if the disk was going bad. The problem has worsened to the point where, once it occurs, everything works extremely slowly, applications won't fully quit, and if I shut the computer down from the Apple Menu, I end up on the login screen and have to shutdown from there or even physically power off. The death of a drive is never pleasant - I'll probably scatter its ashes over the rose garden. I wouldn't wait much longer. If the drive is that bad, I wouldn't trust that the backups are being copied correctly. The backup drive is working, but who knows what data it's storing. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
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