Re: what's "this" stack

2010-11-14 Thread jonathandlynch
Is one stack a substack of the other? If so, both are saved together.

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Hi, I recently wrote this code which works fine

on savenotes
   modeless stack "save"
   save this stack
   wait 360 millisecs
   close stack "save"
end savenotes

when i went back to document it I stumbled across a sort of confusion in my
understand

on savenotes
   modeless stack "save" -- opens a new stack "save" as a modeless window
   save this stack  -- saves "this" stack. Which stack is "this" (save or
notepad)?
   wait 360 millisecs
   close stack "save"
end savenotes

I suddenly realized that I was using the "save this stack" command with 2
stacks open, the primary stack called "notepad" and a secondary stack called
"save".

It appears that rev knows "which is which" even thought from the code it is
quite confusing. Would it be better to say "save stack notepad" instead?

Thanks

-- Mark

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Re: delete chunk.

2010-11-02 Thread jonathandlynch
These are different - item -1 containing empty is different than item -1 not 
existing

It seems like it is behaving intuitively to me.

The docs might be confusing, though.
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Subject: delete chunk.


Hmmm ... what should I get from

put "a,b,c" into temp
delete item -1 of temp

I think temp should now have "a,b," - i.e. the last item has 
disappeared, but the (now) trailing item delimiter should still be there.

However, I actually get that temp has "a,b" - the last comma has also 
disappeared.

The docs say that "delete chunk of container" is equivalent to "put 
empty into chunk of container" - but if I replace it so I do

put "a,b,c" into temp
put empty into item -1 of temp

then I do indeed get "a,b,".
Feels like a bug, and I should put it into QCC - but it's late at night 
and I may be just missing something.
Am I ?

Thanks
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Re: Copy field problem

2010-08-31 Thread jonathandlynch
When I print from my faerie tale editing program, I create a print stack and 
copy groups to cards in the print stack.

All fields that are copied must have their shared text set to true or they will 
copy over empty.

I had thought that was standard behavior for Rev?
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Subject: Re: Copy field problem

On 08/31/2010 02:26 PM, Alex Shaw wrote:
> Hi Richmond
>
> The problem is THAT particular saved stack ie 
> http://www.harryscollar.com/teststack.rev
> .. is showing the problem.
>

Right:

I have just downloaded your stack to my desktop [Ubuntu 10.04, RunRev 
4.0], set up an unsaved
stack "Untitled 1" and run this in the Message Box:

copy fld 1 of card 1 of stack "teststack" to card 1 of stack "Untitled 1"

the field copied across, but its contents DIDN'T: very, very queer 
indeed . . . Unless . . . hang on a minute . . .

Ugh, curse, fioch . . . no, that doesn't help . . . but let's try this . 
. . [Multiline Message Box]

copy fld 1 of card 1 of stack "teststack" to card 1 of stack "Untitled 1"
put fld 1 of card 1 of stack "teststack" into fld 1 of card 1 of stack 
"Untitled 1"

Now, the field is copied across, followed by its contents . . . :)


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Re: Menu button with different fonts in label and menu?

2010-08-25 Thread jonathandlynch
Sending mouseup to a pulldown menu does not make the menu appear. Using popup 
on a pulldown menu messes up the appearance of the button. This is on an older 
version or Rev that I use at work.

If you disable a field, you can click through it - but the text in the disabled 
field will be grey.

Thanks, though - do you have any other suggestions? I think I am going to have 
to resort to using a substack for the menuitems of that button.

Peace,

J
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When you say graying out the text, have you set the blendLevel of the field 
to some number, like 50? If so, you can see the underlying object, but the 
text is grayed. Try setting the "transparent" of the field instead. Then the 
text remains sharp, and only the white space is removed.

As for letting messages through, I think you will have to script this, 
sending a mouseUp to the object of interest explicitly. The lockText of the 
field should be set to "true".

Craig Newman
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Menu button with different fonts in label and menu?

2010-08-25 Thread jonathandlynch
What is the best was to achieve the effect of having a menu button, that is 
part of a group used as a menu bar, that has or appears to have a label that 
uses a standard font and menu items that use wingding characters?

Is there a field setting that would allow mouse clicks to pass through to the 
object below without graying out the text of the field?


Thanks,

Jonathan


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Re: windows, copy, past and right mouse button

2010-08-25 Thread jonathandlynch
Interesting - for one of the apps I made at work, it pops up a copy/cut/paste 
menu when the user right clicks into certain fields

So, fear not - for future apps that you make, it can be done.

J
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Johathan,

Mark helped me quite a bit on the forum page. I did try to implement
that script in my stack. I modified a copy of the Rev 'ask' stack but
wasn't sure how to merge it into my stack to use in place of the default 
stack.
What I did was a little against the rules and worked around using the 'ask' 
dialog
with hiding and showing buttons and fields for the user to enter his 
username
and password. If he 'right-clicks' on the empty field it automatically 
checks
to see if text is in the clipboard and if true then pastes it in for him. I 
figured if
someone is clicking in a blank field the only reason to do so would be to 
paste
something in there. No need for a popup menu, which I got frustrated trying
to implement. I will have to practice using that somewhere else. I was in a
time crunch to get a functional program to a customer.

Bruce

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Subject: Re: windows, copy, past and right mouse button


> on mouseUp tButton
>  if tButton = 3 then
>  answer "The right mouse button is button number 3"
>  end if
> end mouseUp
>
> does that help?
>
> On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 8:35 PM,  wrote:
>
>> Being a relative newbie, I've looked and searched through the files but 
>> am
>> unable to figure out how to incorporate the right mouse button into my
>> scripts. As I have been forced to use Windoze computers for quite a 
>> while, I
>> have gotten used to using the right mouse button to do copy and pasting 
>> of
>> text. I have written several stacks the latest of which I need to enter a
>> UserName and Password. I have a program that stores my passwords and such
>> and frequently use it to copy and paste from, but when I right click on 
>> the
>> "Enter Username:" dialog box, nothing happens. I can however use the
>> keyboard shortcut ctrl-v which works as long as I'm running Rev. If I 
>> build
>> a standalone, even that doesn't work. I'm not sure if the problem exists
>> because the answer command is a blocking command or not. Thanks in 
>> advance
>> for your help. Sorry so wordy.
>>
>> Bruce
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Re: Is it possible to copy and paste html links from a browser, orMS Word, into a Rev app?

2010-08-16 Thread jonathandlynch
Hm

Would you mind trying copying from ms word? I have a hunch that microsoft is at 
the heart of my plight.

Thanks Jacqueline
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Subject: Re: Is it possible to copy and paste html links from a browser, or
 MS Word, into a Rev app?

On 8/16/10 5:33 PM, Jonathan Lynch wrote:
> Hi Jacqueline,
>
> I tested this.
>
> It is not retaining the link information, either from MS Word or from IE 8.
>
> This is true both with RunRev 4.0 and RunRev 2.6.1 - those are the only
> versions I have to test with.

Okay, this time I actually tried it. :) I have an extension in Firefox 
that allows me to copy either plain text or html text. I copied a 
selection as html.

In Rev: set the htmltext of fld 1 to the clipboardData["text"]

That works here.

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HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
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Re: To keep the selection of a textfield visible while the focus is onanother control?

2010-06-06 Thread jonathandlynch
Rather than simulating text highlighting, try simulating the change in focus.

The actual focus would always stay on the field. However, you could use a 
custom prop to define a pseudofocus.

When that property is set to a different object, like the combo box, then text 
gets diverted (using key down handler) to that object.

It would be tricky, including the need to simulate the blinking text cursor, 
but it should be doable.

Good luck,
J



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Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2010 16:02:57 
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Subject: To keep the selection of a textfield visible while the focus is on
 another control?

Hi all,

I don't know how to manage this:

On a card I have a field with text and a combo box.
With the combobox the user can change the textsize of the selected text 
of the textfield.
That works good when I set the traversalOn of the combobox to false.
The User then can use the menu of the combobox while the selection in 
the textfield keeps visible.
But when I set the traversalOn of the combobox to true, so that the user 
can manually enter a textsize in the field part of the combobox, the 
selection in the textfield disappears because the textfield lost its focus.

One way I tested was to store the selectedChunk in a custom property on 
selectionchanged and when the user has entered the textsize in the 
combobox and presses return or enter the textsize and the selection for 
the selectedchunk (I stored in the custom property) of the field is set.
But there is a period of time the user doesn't see his selection in the 
textfield.

Is there a way to keep the selection of a textfield visible while the 
focus is on another control?

I hope you understand my request despite my poor english.

Thank you very much in advance.

Wolfgang
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Re: How exactly does runrev for ipad/iphone work?

2010-05-07 Thread jonathandlynch
The potential problem would be in violating a contract you signed - I say 
potential because I do not know all the nuances of this situation.
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Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 14:33:10 
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Subject: Re: How exactly does runrev for ipad/iphone work?

No.
When I responds to some posts, my English is too poor, and I use a translation 
application.
My views may seem clumsy, but are not dishonest...
In the computer's world using English is necessary but not obligatory. I think 
in French even when I speak English (I'd like to think in English, but...), I 
claim the right to think RevTalk while writing in Objective C. Where is the 
ethical problem ?
René

Le 7 mai 2010 à 14:29, jonathandly...@gmail.com a écrit :

> Hi Rene, are you concerned that there may be an ethical issue with doing that?
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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> -Original Message-
> From: René Micout 
> Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 11:15:34 
> To: How to use Revolution
> Subject: Re: How exactly does runrev for ipad/iphone work?
> 
> Hello Chipp, Richard, Randall, ... Sorry Tom,
> I'm sorry to revive the debate, but, for me, everything is not clear...
> I make a supposition — unfortunaly it is a supposition :-( 
> I am an expert with RevTalk and Objective C.
> I make a tool that allows me to write a project with RevTalk language. I use 
> Interface Builder to create the interface.
> I click a "magic" button and all my work turns into a perfect Objective C 
> code.
> I enter my new Objective C code (copy and paste) in Cocoa Xcode on my 
> Macintosh and I start construct the application as if I type all with my 
> little hands...
> How Apple can prove that I used the language RevTalk to "prototype" my code ?
> Am I in this case in violation of § 3.3.1 ? In absolute (towards contract), 
> yes, but where are the proof ?
> If I act in this way, I don't see where is there problem...
> René
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Re: How exactly does runrev for ipad/iphone work?

2010-05-07 Thread jonathandlynch
Hi Rene, are you concerned that there may be an ethical issue with doing that?
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From: René Micout 
Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 11:15:34 
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Subject: Re: How exactly does runrev for ipad/iphone work?

Hello Chipp, Richard, Randall, ... Sorry Tom,
I'm sorry to revive the debate, but, for me, everything is not clear...
I make a supposition — unfortunaly it is a supposition :-( 
I am an expert with RevTalk and Objective C.
I make a tool that allows me to write a project with RevTalk language. I use 
Interface Builder to create the interface.
I click a "magic" button and all my work turns into a perfect Objective C code.
I enter my new Objective C code (copy and paste) in Cocoa Xcode on my Macintosh 
and I start construct the application as if I type all with my little hands...
How Apple can prove that I used the language RevTalk to "prototype" my code ?
Am I in this case in violation of § 3.3.1 ? In absolute (towards contract), 
yes, but where are the proof ?
If I act in this way, I don't see where is there problem...
René

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Re: Apples actual response to the Flash issue

2010-05-02 Thread jonathandlynch
Wow. My feelings exactly.

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Subject: Re: Apples actual response to the Flash issue

  On 02/05/2010 11:31, René Micout wrote:
> Le 2 mai 2010 à 00:44, Randall Lee Reetz a écrit :
>
>> It is largely an ayn rand anarchist after school club for all white mall 
>> arcade raised nerds lacking in any real vision.
> Very difficult for a french to understand that !
> If English speaker dont speak English then "Je m'exprimerai en français sur 
> ce forum !"
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Ayn Rand was a Hungarian who became an American; she advocated an 
extremely crude form of
anarcho-capitalism. Her books are 2-dimensional exercises in projecting 
her ideas that are
extremely popular with the 20-30 set who have been through their 
left-wing phase and are now
experiencing their backlash reaction. Once people realise how 
2-dimensional her ideas are and
how they fail to account (just as Marxism does) for the nature of 
humanity they move on; normally
giving up adopting extreme political postures.
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Re: Accessing stacks without opening

2010-04-26 Thread jonathandlynch
You can check to see if it is open invisibly by looking in the application 
browser. The application browser is worth getting to know.

Using stacks that are invisible is not bad form, but you should be aware when 
you do it. 
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So it appears that you can set custom properties of a stack and "put" 
information into fields of stacks that are not open, from a stack that 
is open. I just did it by accident! That being the case, is there 
anything that I should be aware of when doing this? Is the referenced 
stack loaded into memory? Is this considered bad form?

Thanks,
Marty Knapp
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Re: Why do human have appendices?

2010-04-21 Thread jonathandlynch
Heh

There are even beneficial viruses, like cowpox :)
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Sent: Apr 21, 2010 6:58 PM

> Some speculate that it serves as a repository for beneficial bacteria
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

I didn't know you could receive beneficial bacteria from your Verizon
Wireless BlackBerry. I worry about getting the bad type from ordinary public
phones :-)

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Re: Why do human have appendices?

2010-04-21 Thread jonathandlynch
Some speculate that it serves as a repository for beneficial bacteria.
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-Original Message-
From: "Petrides, M.D. Marian" 
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 08:04:29 
To: How to use Revolution
Subject: Re: Why do human have appendices?

The appendix is a vestigial organ, just like the coccyx is humankind's  
vestigial tail.

On Apr 21, 2010, at 3:16 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:

> Well there are a number of theories there.
>
> Evolutionary theory suggests that humans have evolved from herbivores
> that needed appendices to house lots of gut flora to help digest  
> cellulose.
>
> Why do we still have appendices?  Well, just possibly they might be  
> there
> as a sort of stop-gap in the unlikely eventuality of having to go on  
> an
> all-grass diet for a spot.
>
> -
>
> Why has RunRev removed various capabilities that were there in earlier
> recensions of their software?
>
> *** Standalone building capabilities for, supposedly, deprecated
> operating systems:
>
>Mac Classic
>UNIX
>
>many others
>
> 
>
> As one updates / upgrades software / one's house / one's computer /  
> etc.
> it is generally the done thing to add enhancements that expand the  
> possibilities
> for that thing.
>
> However; when I put in a second toilet I don't do it at the expense  
> of the kitchen.
>
> When I put a second LightScribe DVD burner in my G4 Mac I didn't rip  
> out
> 3 of the Hard-drives.
>
> When I made a new computer desk so that I could snuggle my Linux  
> text box
> and my headless XP box right up next to my G4 linked monitor and  
> keyboard
> I still made sure I had easy access to my BBC Micro (very useful for  
> calming-down
> and modelling loops - in BBC BASIC - for implementing in RunRev  
> later).
>
> 
>
> On my G4 I have, amongst all the other 'Guff', RunRev 1.1.1 and  
> 2.0.1, so I
> can always "go back to the future" and run off a standalone for some  
> older
> OS; but, of course, a lot of the capabilities and features  
> introduced in later
> recensions of RunRev get lost.
>
> But who wants to feed grass to a cow and wait for it to sick up its  
> cud so
> that it is slightly more digestable for humans?
>
> sincerely, Richmond Mathewson.
> 
>
> Mr Mathewson holds a BA in Philosophy and this sometimes gets the
> better of him . . .  :)
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Re: Rev cannot open my jpeg ! - and some serious thinking

2009-06-29 Thread jonathandlynch
This is an issue for me right now :(

I am thinking about some sort of mosaic approach, in order to effectively get a 
high enough resolution background image for printing.
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Ben Rubinstein wrote:
> If this issue matters to you, please make your views persistent by adding 
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>   http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=4026

Thank you for bringing that to my attention.  I have an app coming up 
which will need to process JPEGs from cameras, and if I had to exclude 
so very many modern cameras because of this resolution issue the app 
would barely be worth shipping.

Sarah's comments there were especially helpful.

Thanks to both of you and the other contributors to that report.

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