Re: [ANN] animationEngine 3

2009-10-15 Thread stephen barncard
I just use the same old anglo-saxon words, with some personal ornaments. My
housemates hate it and are probably moving out because of it.I know I
shouldn't do it; blood pressure and such but it's so  liberating.  I'd
rather be cool but I can't help it sometimes.
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2009/10/15 Jerry Daniels jerry.dani...@me.com

 What language(s) do you like to swear in?

 I grew up (in USA) being called a lot of names in German. Very colorful and
 effective.

 Best,

 Jerry Daniels
 Watch tRev - The Movie
 http://reveditor.com/trev-the-movie


 On Oct 15, 2009, at 1:12 PM, Malte Pfaff-Brill wrote:

  Thanks for the kind words all. :-) Really makes the time worthwhile.

  (gasp) you SWEAR while coding???

 Often and passionately. It is that bad that my coworkers forced me to find
 a new place for the office where I will be sent to the naughty room when I
 code on difficult stuff.

 Is there an upgrade offer or is this a separate product from
 animationeEngine29?
 Upgrade is $39 for existing customers. If you bought an AE license after
 august 31st this year, you are entitled to a free upgrade.

 All the best,

 Malte
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Re: [ANN] WeCode Planet meta-blog that collects posts about revolution.

2009-10-15 Thread stephen barncard
If you are worried about copyright issues, I don't think it's a problem if
the data are offered by the sources through RSS feeds. Nothing is 'copied'.
 Or is it a cosmetic/display issue ?
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2009/10/15 Dom mcd...@free.fr

 Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote:

  Yes, the CSS is not pleasant, thats just me learning how to float things
  around. I hope to get the colors right soon.

 CSS are hard to master ;-)

 great idea... netherless, I am not very comfortable with the fact of
 copying _whole_ articles from other blogs

 what about quoting only a paragraph from the source, and adding a
 more... if the reader is interested?


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Re: [OT] Figuring Out XML Error?

2009-10-12 Thread stephen barncard
Open XML?   - oxymoron
MS has seemingly done the same thing for XML what they did for SQL, html and
javascript de-standardize it 'just enough' to make interchange more
difficult without their blessing.


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2009/10/12 Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net

 Dave-

 Monday, October 12, 2009, 1:22:56 AM, you wrote:

  Is this Microsoft's open xml format by the way?

 Yep. That it is. The bloat is MS Word namespace tags on every element.
 I'd be embarrassed to write something like

 w:p w:rsidR=00E52FAC w:rsidRPr=002C0BD1 w:rsidRDefault=00E52FAC
 w:rsidP=007C075C
  w:pPr
  w:autoSpaceDE w:val=0/
  w:autoSpaceDN w:val=0/
  w:adjustRightInd w:val=0/
  w:rPrw:bCs/
   w:color w:val=00/
  /w:rPr
  /w:pPr
 /w:p

 (that's a paragraph tag with no content, apparently to provide a blank
 line)

 --
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irev page link error in pdf

2009-10-10 Thread stephen barncard
It appears that if the web link has an irev extension, preview will launch
the apple web site rather than an error. Nice. I have yet to see what Adobe
Acrobat does. So I guess the only fix is to make an html page that
immediately redirects. Cheezy, but works if you control the web space of the
link.

This is the other apple bug I've discovered this week; *quick look* appears
to reverse left and right channels on audio files.
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Re: irev page link error in pdf

2009-10-10 Thread stephen barncard
the answer, of course is to use an .htaccess file to redirect. A wizard is
right there in the ON-Rev control panel.

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2009/10/10 stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com

 It appears that if the web link has an irev extension, preview will launch
 the apple web site rather than an error. Nice. I have yet to see what Adobe
 Acrobat does. So I guess the only fix is to make an html page that
 immediately redirects. Cheezy, but works if you control the web space of the
 link.

 This is the other apple bug I've discovered this week; *quick look*appears to 
 reverse left and right channels on audio files.
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Re: youtube splash

2009-10-09 Thread stephen barncard
Fair production values and graphics but no information on why anyone should
use it.
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2009/10/9 Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net

 Hmmm... somebody been doing some viral marketing?

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNETuH_YNsc

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Re: [OT] JavaScript editor?

2009-09-27 Thread stephen barncard
Ripe for snide humor:

Emacs? Aren't those the little furry creatures in one of the Star Wars
movies?
Oh, those. Yeah, my dad had one. He sold it years ago.

sorry.  I must have used it in the early 80s on my Beehive terminal but...
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2009/9/27 Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com



 How often do you use emacs?


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Re: Creating image from text..

2009-09-26 Thread stephen barncard
Hi Jean-Pierre,
I'm not sure what you are asking.
do you mean do you want to represent the binary data of a jpg image as a
more easily stored text string?

yes  I have done this. Look into  Base64Encode/decode.

I don't understand BA,BI,etc.
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2009/9/25 Jean-Pierre Soto jean-pierre.s...@wanadoo.fr

 Hello,

 his there a way to create a great number of JPEG image from small text (
 something like BA,BI,BO,BU,FA,FI,FO,FU in small 32x32 JPEG image) with
 Revolution.

 Jean-Pierre



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Re: [OT] Book on The Art of Community

2009-09-26 Thread stephen barncard
One can also assign .pdfs to always open in Preview by changing the suffix
assignment in the finder.   This might have the effect of Webkit using
Preview for viewing PDFs in Safari, as I observe them loading really fast.
 THis is something that I do every time there's a OS upgrade. Acrobat Reader
has a few extra features but they aren't usually worth the extra load time.
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2009/9/26 Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net


 On Sep 26, 2009, at 9:57 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:

  Get it while its hot:


 http://www.jonobacon.org/2009/09/18/the-art-of-community-available-for-free-download/


 The PDF is only just over 2MB, but you know how slow PDFs can load in
 browsers, especially if the Adobe Reader kicks in to do the loading. So I
 used the contextual menu to have it download the file, which I can then
 speedily view in Preview.



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Re: How to create a background process

2009-09-26 Thread stephen barncard

 Josep said:

 By other way a lunch speak messages to the user, but if one message is
 runnig
 and one second message start, the first is stoped.
 How wait until the revspeak finish before start the next?


for this part check out

wait until the sound is done



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Re: Distributing Mac apps

2009-09-26 Thread stephen barncard
I'm one of those renegades that insists on moving non-apple apps into a
directory named Applications Third Party at the same level as the
Application Folder. The App folder is a mess when one puts more than the
Apple apps in there. Inside the third party folder, I separate the apps by
function, like AV,Graphics, Internet, etc. I also use directories around
most of my third party apps to contain docs and serial numbers. Only a
couple apps have complained.
 I HATE IT when a third party application *insists* on being in the
'Application Folder'. I just have too many applications..  I want to use my
own organizational system. I assume Apple apps always want to be there.
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2009/9/26 Joe F. jo...@mac.com

 I prefer the disc image with root Applications alias. It's simple and
 obvious.

 I found that a lot of apps allow you to install anywhere when they actually
 need to be in the Applications folder; as if the developer never considered
 that a user might do it otherwise.

 The main reasons to do it by the book are permissions and OS updates. I
 haven't done Snow Leopard yet but the Leopard transition was great for me,
 very little setup once it was installed.

 Also, if you want to update your app you know where everything is.

 Joe F.


 On Sep 23, 2009, at 1:00 AM, Sarah Reichelt wrote:

  On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 1:00 PM, J. Landman Gay
 jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote:

 Sarah Reichelt wrote:

  In response, someone else posted a complementary idea, having the app
 offering to move itself to the Applications folder if it is launched
 from any other folder.
 http://www.potionfactory.com/node/251


 I recently installed an app that did that. I didn't like it, I had
 installed
 it in a different folder on purpose. Fortunately it only bugged me once
 about it on first launch.


 Perhaps a neater method would be to offer to move it only if it was
 being launched from the Downloads folder.

 Sarah
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Re: Setting the 'Open With'

2009-09-25 Thread stephen barncard
sometimes I just cruse the docs looking for commands that I've never
tried and then get ideas!

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2009/9/24 Ray Horsley r...@linkit.com:
 Very interesting Stephen!  I've never used these commands before.  They
 might just do the trick for me.

 Thanks,

 Ray Horsley
 LinkIt! Software

 On Sep 24, 2009, at 10:41 AM, stephen barncard wrote:

 you could use Tar from the shell or Rev's built in zip commands.
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 2009/9/24 Ray Horsley r...@linkit.com:

 Thanks Marty.  It's just slightly more complicated than that, though.  In
 my
 case I've got a zip file which a script in my standalone has downloaded.
  I'd like to decompress it automatically from the same script but I don't
 know where Archive Utility is or what it's named on the end users
 machine.
  On my machine it's System/Library/Core Services/Archive Utility.app but
 on
 a friend's machine I noticed it's named BOMArchive Utility instead of
 Archive Utility.  Any suggestions?

 Thanks,

 Ray Horsley
 LinkIt! Software

 On Sep 24, 2009, at 10:08 AM, Marty Knapp wrote:

 You can open a specific document with a specific application like this:

 launch /MyDocumentsFolder/TheDocument.doc with
 /Applications/MyApp.app

 using the path of each. and assuming the the application is capable of
 opening it.

 Marty Knapp

 On kind of a related note, anybody know how to set a file to open with
 a
 certain application?  This is manually done with the Get Info window on
 the
 Mac but I need to do this from within a script.

 Thanks,

 Ray Horsley
 LinkIt! Software

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Re: Java applets Revlets

2009-09-24 Thread stephen barncard
You may be the first to try this. Revlets are still an Alpha product.
The silence from the list doesn't necessarily mean 'We are ignoring
you'. It means 'we don't have anything to say about it'. or 'We
haven't tried this yet.

The Runrev team isn't obligated to troll this list; but they
occasionally drop in and comment.

The On-Rev and Revlet features are still greatly under-documented.
Hopefully which specific features that 'do' work and not work will be
noted more clearly in future, online documentation.
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2009/9/24 Jerry Balzano gjbalz...@ucsd.edu:
 Hi all,

 Although this list is usually pretty responsive to questions, I sent the
 email almost 48 hours ago and haven't raised a single reply.  If I'm just
 asking foolish questions, perhaps someone could gently tell me why, and
 suggest what I might do (instead) to address the issue I raise.

 Thanks,
 Jerry B

 On Sep 22, 2009, at 2:13 PM, Jerry Balzano wrote:

 I hope this isn't too bizarre a request.

 I want a Revlet to be able to control which of several (pre-made) Java
 applets a user sees.  How would one do this?  Is it possible to embed
 a Java applet inside a Revlet?

 I was looking through previous messages to see if this question had
 been asked previously and I learned (a little) about a stack property
 called the revletParams, but I don't know how or if it would apply
 here.  For example, would one stick the whole string
 applet code=org.nlogo.window.Applet
        archive=NetLogoLite.jar
        width=460 height=280
  param name=DefaultModel
         value=Tag.nlogo
 /applet
 inside the revletParams?  (And then what?)

 Sorry for the painfully naive nature of these questions, but this is
 all untrodden ground for me.

 Thanks,
 Jerry Balzano
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Re: Setting the 'Open With'

2009-09-24 Thread stephen barncard
you could use Tar from the shell or Rev's built in zip commands.
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2009/9/24 Ray Horsley r...@linkit.com:
 Thanks Marty.  It's just slightly more complicated than that, though.  In my
 case I've got a zip file which a script in my standalone has downloaded.
  I'd like to decompress it automatically from the same script but I don't
 know where Archive Utility is or what it's named on the end users machine.
  On my machine it's System/Library/Core Services/Archive Utility.app but on
 a friend's machine I noticed it's named BOMArchive Utility instead of
 Archive Utility.  Any suggestions?

 Thanks,

 Ray Horsley
 LinkIt! Software

 On Sep 24, 2009, at 10:08 AM, Marty Knapp wrote:

 You can open a specific document with a specific application like this:

 launch /MyDocumentsFolder/TheDocument.doc with /Applications/MyApp.app

 using the path of each. and assuming the the application is capable of
 opening it.

 Marty Knapp

 On kind of a related note, anybody know how to set a file to open with a
 certain application?  This is manually done with the Get Info window on the
 Mac but I need to do this from within a script.

 Thanks,

 Ray Horsley
 LinkIt! Software

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Re: [ONREV] beginner - site download

2009-09-23 Thread stephen barncard
Jim, I never saw the download either. One can't scrape the code off of the
screen either - it's a graphic. But the examples aren't that hard to just
write out.
Quite frankly I think you'd be happier checking out the Troz site (Sarah).

http://www.troz.net/onrev/

great stuff. All the scripts are there. All tested and works.

Another fine example is John Craig's splash21 CMS.
http://splash21.on-rev.com/index.irev

Finally Andre has a Wordpress type blog that works well.
http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/cms.irev

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2009/9/23 Jim Ault jimaultw...@yahoo.com

 I am getting into OnRev this week and have a question about a comment on
 page..
 http://samples.on-rev.com/index.irev

 part of the instructions say
  'You can also download a complete copy of this website if you would like
 to take it apart and look at how everything has been done.'

 but nothing says how to do it.
 Can anyone answer how to download the Samples web site?

 Thanks,

 Jim Ault
 Las Vegas
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Re: [ANN] MacWindows external 1.0.0 (005)

2009-09-23 Thread stephen barncard
Shao, I'm not seeing the link for that on your site.
Safari 4 Firefox 3.5  - MacOS 10.5.8   0900 PST
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2009/9/23 Shao Sean shaos...@wehostmacs.com

 Updated the download file to include that PkgInfo file as per Klaus' bug
 report.

 -Sean

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Re: [ANN] MacWindows external 1.0.0 (005)

2009-09-23 Thread stephen barncard
yes but I was looking at the description page
http://revdevelop.com/categories/Developer_Tools/Externals/ssMacWindows

no file link there...

it's the first thing that came up in google
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2009/9/23 Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net:
 stephen-

 Wednesday, September 23, 2009, 9:03:29 AM, you wrote:

 Shao, I'm not seeing the link for that on your site.

 ...at the top... the one that says Download... g

 http://shaosean.tk/

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Re: I need to blink and carry on !

2009-09-20 Thread stephen barncard
send in time
get Dar Scott's stack that demonstrates Message Mechanics

http://pages.swcp.com/dsc/revstacks.html

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2009/9/20 Francis Nugent Dixon effe...@wanadoo.fr

 Hi from Paris,

 Way back in the good old days, on a 3270
 monitor, we could blink any line. Very useful !

 I want to blink an error message, to bring
 it to the attention of the user, but I don't
 want to stop the execution of the current
 script.

 How would I go about this ?

 -Francis


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Re: creating and/or replacing stacks

2009-09-17 Thread stephen barncard
Check out the GLX Application
Frameworkhttp://www.bluemangolearning.com/screensteps/examples/manuals/GLX_Application_Framework.htmlby
Trevor -
It includes an auto update feature and many others...
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2009/9/17 Lars Brehmer larsbreh...@mac.com

 Jim,

 Thanks for the links.

 I guess I didn't phrase my question very well. My standalones have always
 been splash screens with the actual stacks in the program folder. It's one
 of those stacks I want to be able to replace with the update, so this isn't
 new to me. It's actually figuring out how to do it that I need help with,
 but after a quicl browse through the links you provided, I am pretty sure I
 will find my answers. Thanks again.

 Cheers

 Lars

  Can anybody point me to a tutorial or a demonstration or anything
 that emplains creating or deleting or replacing stacks from a
 standalone? What I want to do is make a standalone that updates
 another standalone by replacing one of its stacks with one from the
 updater stack. As basic as this probably is, I haven't a clue how to
 do it, and all atttempts to figure it out have failed.


 First concept for you to realize is that a standalone is a compiled
 app or exe, which means once compiled, it can no longer be modified.

 This is kind of like an oil painting where the artist wants to go back
 and replace a blue color with one that is a little darker.  Can't undo
 the painting, but you can make a new one and change the blue color.
 For Rev, this means go back and compile a new version of your
 standalone.

 What you can do is create a standalone that uses stacks that are not
 part of the standalone, then replace those stacks.  There are many
 discussions on the list about this and the key word to look for is
 'splash screen'

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Re: creating and/or replacing stacks

2009-09-17 Thread stephen barncard
Yes it ranked right at the top. It *did* look a little strange. Thought it
was a new look for the mango.
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2009/9/17 Trevor DeVore li...@mangomultimedia.com


 Stephen,

 It looks like you grabbed a sample ScreenSteps manual that turned up on
 Google (someone else did that just a little bit a ago). The url to the main
 GLX Application Framework page is here:


 http://www.bluemangolearning.com/revolution/software/libraries/glx-application-framework/


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Re: Datagrid speed problem

2009-09-16 Thread stephen barncard
Jerry's right -  tRev is a non-invasive, fast, clean, mean coding machine. I
use it exclusively. And the support is awesome.
you should check it out.

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2009/9/16 Jerry Daniels jerry.dani...@me.com

 Beat,

 If, as you said, you don't like the Rev Script editor in 3.5, you might
 check out tRev. It might be more to your liking.

 On the other hand, you might not! Good luck with your grids either way.

 Link about tRev below.

 Best,

 Jerry Daniels
 Watch tRev - The Movie
 http://reveditor.com/trev-the-movie


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Re: Escaping from QT

2009-09-16 Thread stephen barncard
Animated gifs are terrible for anything with much resolution.
256 colors, indexed.
Animated gifs are good for logos and block images but not gradients.  And
they still stall in Rev if anything else is going on.

Compuserve invented and owned the patents on the .gif format up until a few
years ago. Early on Compuserve tried to collect on every use of the every
gif.  It was a major reason for the superior open source PNG format to be
created.

On the horizon, working today: ANIMATED PNGhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APNG

this link works in Firefox, but not in Safari:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APNG(72k)

I hope this gets standardized. Beautiful. Nice gradients.

Mozilla's role in extending the PNG format to APNG echoes
Netscapehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netscape's
much earlier role in popularizing animated
GIFshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_Interchange_Format#Animated_.gif
.

perhaps we can coerce the mother ship to include it someday...
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2009/9/16 Richmond Mathewson richmondmathew...@gmail.com

 I have just discovered a quick way to run up an animated GIF from an image
 sequence (rather than plonking every frame in place and getting w*'s
 (err . . . wrist) cramp doing it:

 Get a copy of GIMP:


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Re: The $%$#%#$%# Rev Geometry

2009-09-14 Thread stephen barncard
Thanks Sarah, I'll try this out
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 I have a plugin that I use but it is very limited compared to the Rev
 Geometry manager. However it works well and is easy to tweak since it
 creates editable scripts for you.
 I've just uploaded it to my web site, so you can find it at
 http://www.troz.net/rev/

 Cheers,
 Sarah
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Re: The $%$#%#$%# Rev Geometry

2009-09-14 Thread stephen barncard
That hasn't usually worked for me. It seems to explode at random even when
locked down. thanks though.
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2009/9/14 Mark Stuart mfstu...@cox.net

 Written by stephen barncard on Sun Sep 13, 2009 - 5:21 PM CDT
 
 Does anyone know how to stop this from happening?
 

 Stephen, for each object on each card, set the Lock size and position
 (lockLoc) property to checked when using the Geometry manager. I've found
 that this keeps each object from disappearing off the card, to somewhere in
 never-never land.

 --
 HTH,
 Mark Stuart

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Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 72, Issue 18 -- Solution for Problems with Snow Leopard

2009-09-13 Thread stephen barncard
Isn't there a speed hit running under Rosetta?
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2009/9/13 sandr...@comcast.net


 I read a messarge regarding Problems with Snow Leopard:

 On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Till Bandi  tba...@swissonline.ch 
 wrote:
  I just installed snow leopard - and now I can't launch a stack with a
 double
  click anymore from the finder. I get the dialog:
 
  Unable to open stack: stack is corrupted, check for ~ backup file. 
 
  If I open the same stack within runrev with the open command, everything
  works as expected. If I launch the stack, I get the same problem.

 I had the same problem, and here is the solution. You need to insert the
 Snow Leopard disc again and load the application Rosetta which is included
 separately on the disc. Once loaded, go to your Revolution application and
 click on it but don't open it. While it is highlighted, go to top finder
 menu and select the Get Information under File. On the window that opens
 you will see the information for the Rev application and then you check the
 box for use Rosetta. Once you do that it will open as it once did by
 double-clicking on any of your Rev. documents.

 Cheers,
 Sandy Hargrove
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Re: Problems with snow leopard

2009-09-13 Thread stephen barncard
As a long time mac user from the beginning, I've always thought the type and
creator codes were VERY useful to eliminate the ambiguity of what to launch
and I put down the PC method of using suffixes as being brain dead. It is
sad to see the Mac OS do another thing to make it more like Windblows. I
registered the codes creator BARN and document rtfd back in the early
90's. Obviously the second one Apple decided to use anyway for Textedit. (I
had my own rtf format with image references imbedded.) Aren't these things
still relevant? On 2009-09-13, Dave Cragg dave.cr...@lacscentre.co.uk
wrote:  I haven't installed Snow Leopard, so can't check this.   I've
read that with Snow Leopard, the Finder no longer uses creator  and type
codes as a way of linking files to applications. I'm guessing  this might
have an effect of the result of double-clicking on a file.  For example,
perhaps the Finder is now trying to launch the file with  an older version
of Rev which doesn't recognize the current stack  format.   Could that
explain what you're seeing?   Dave 
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The $%$#%#$%# Rev Geometry

2009-09-13 Thread stephen barncard
Ok I've been a Rev user since 2001, and many times I've tried to use the
geometry manager and it will work for a while, then BLAM, add or change
something (like add a new card) , then everything to the right gets wider -
a major mess. This happens sooner or later on EVERY stack I try to use
geometry.

Once in a while someone will mention rev geometry on this list,  and the
pundits will invariably say... Geometry -- no big deal, just do it yourself
- it's easy. Don't use Rev geometry. 

But the Rev interface has such an intuitive interface to RevGeometry, I
really want to use it. If it's broken, how is it used? If it's in there, why
can't I just use it?

Does anyone know how to stop this from happening? Really, it was working
quite well for many days... now I can't change anything on the stack without
this thing falling apart. I didn't change the size of anything, just tried
to add a new card.

If I have to go commando with geometry, does anyone have a guide?

thanks

sqb


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Re: The $%$#%#$%# Rev Geometry

2009-09-13 Thread stephen barncard
2009/9/13 Bill Vlahos bvla...@mac.com

 Stephen,

 I've struggled with and successfully used Geometry Manager and agree with
 you that the UI is very inviting.

 There are two tricks I've found for making it work better.
1. If in doubt click Remove All at the Geometry UI setting and
 reset it.


of course.



2. If you are using it in comparison with another object, rather
 than the card dimensions, make sure the object is a low level object. I've
 found that you will get strange results this isn't done.


Not sure what you mean by 'lower level object. How can I make the desired
object relate to the stack/card size?

Also will groups have problems or do they usually stay together ( avoiding
any geometry inside ) ?

Do I have to assure that the 'resizestack' event reaches each object?





 I sure wish Rev would fix the Geometry Manager. It is a stumbling block for
 most new users.


Well, Im not new, and it's definitely a stumbling block for me. Thanks
Bill.



 Bill Vlahos


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Re: Custom Widget Technique Question

2009-09-12 Thread stephen barncard
If you haven't seen  Scott Rossi's work, you should. He's created some
amazing controls.
Buy or use for inspiration.

http://www.tactilemedia.com/   click software; click TMGauge
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2009/9/12 Len Morgan len-mor...@crcom.net

 I'm working on a new project and I'd like some advice on how to create
 custom controls to use on a graphical process display.  This will display a
 water pipeline system with all it's tanks, pipe, valves, flow/pressure
 meters etc.  One of the items I have to display is a water tank and I need
 to display how much water is in it as both a number and a graphical
 representation of the water level.  I've got the gist of the drawing managed
 but I'm going to have to have several of these and I don't want to hand
 create them every time so I'm looking to make a water tank custom control.

 I need to put it somewhere, send it a current level which would update the
 numeric display and set the water level.  I'd also like to size them so I
 could have big ones and small ones.

 That's a long introduction to my actual question.  I know I can make a
 group of the various parts and script the updating and possibly sizing using
 behavior scripts but once I've created it, where to I put it?  Do I create a
 stack with this group on it and then clone it where I need it?  Do I copy
 and paste (via script)?  I can't add it to the Rev graphic object pallet
 like the datagrid is now.

 This is not the only custom control I'm going to need so I'm looking for a
 generic way to handle this kind of thing.  In the end, the program will not
 only have a display of our pipeline but I'd also like to have a separate
 design program to create the system diagrams in case any other pipelines
 want to use the program.

 len morgan
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Re: [OT] Recover Files From OS X User Account

2009-09-11 Thread stephen barncard
start up using an install dvdyou can change the root password from the disc
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2009/9/11 Ian Wood revl...@azurevision.co.uk

 I don't think you can do that if the drive includes an OS X install.

 Ian

 On 11 Sep 2009, at 17:27, Robert Brenstein wrote:

  Have you tried setting of the drive to ignore permissions, when having it
 connected as external drive?




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Re: How Do I Exit an iRev Script

2009-09-08 Thread stephen barncard
exit to top
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2009/9/8 Gregory Lypny gregory.ly...@videotron.ca

 Hello everyone,

 What is the iRev equivalent of exit mouseUp?

Gregory
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Re: Rev Dbase OBDC with 4thDimension

2009-09-07 Thread stephen barncard
Sorry for the misinformation. It's been a long time since I worked with
4d (93?)
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2009/9/7 Malte Pfaff-Brill revolut...@derbrill.de

 Hi Sivakatirswami,

 I am currently working on a project, where 4d and Rev share the same
 database. The database in this case is mySQL though, so the connection is
 pretty straight forward. As 4d, (and Rev) can work with a multitude of
 databases, it would be best to ask the fellows, which db is working under
 the hood.

 All the best,

 Malte
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Re: The Conference. RE switch

2009-09-05 Thread stephen barncard
I really like to use switch for any logic more than a single if-then-else.
Switch statements, due to their fall-through and default behaviors, can
handle more logic *conditions* than if-then
switch tInput
case 0
case 1
put tInput after tOut
case 2
   put tInput after tOut
case 3
put tInput after tOut
break
case 4
put tInput after tOut
case 5
put tInput after tOut
break
default
put tInput after tOut
end switch


tInput - tOut

0==  123
1==  123
2==  23
3==  3
4==  45
5==  5
6==  6
7==  7
...

when one gets used to the structure of a switch statement, it really looks
like it functions, and it's quite simple. Same thing with arrays.


All programming is simple, once one can break it down as smaller ideas put
together as a machine.

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2009/9/5 Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net


 On Sep 5, 2009, at 12:03 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:

  Using SWITCH statements,



 Although switch statements can be useful, you don't have to use them. So
 your old code could stay as it is, and you would just use switch in the
 future if it's appropriate. You can often get away without an if or a
 switch. Like with your example:

 do item Goofy of something-or-other,something-more-foolish



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Re: revMedia is FREE for everyone . . .

2009-09-05 Thread stephen barncard
Free Revmedia is still in pre-release.
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2009/9/5 Richmond Mathewson richmondmathew...@gmail.com

 Unless you end up here:
 http://www.runrev.com/products/product-comparison/editions/

 where you can still BUY revMedia for £25 

 instead of here:

 http://revmedia.runrev.com/revMedia

 where it is completely FREE 

 something not quite right.
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Re: On-Rev Client Update?

2009-09-04 Thread stephen barncard
I *THOUGHT* the client was exactly the samelooked at it, used it, but I
didn't look at the version #.
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2009/9/4 Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net


 On Sep 4, 2009, at 3:39 PM, Joe F. wrote:

  I got an email a week ago saying the engine and client had been updated,
 but upon download the same 0.1.4 version of the client is what I get.


 Same thing happened for me. I told them that it was the same old version.



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Re: Line Breaks Dropped on Importing Unicode Text

2009-09-04 Thread stephen barncard
Why are you replacing the CRs with LFs? doesn't the engine's Unicode
functions handle line endings?
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2009/9/4 Sivakatirswami ka...@hindu.org

 Aloha, Joe:

 I'm not quite sure how your suggestion relates to the problem of endlines.

 The unicode.txt file I have is being read OK in Pages on the mac.
 It also loads just fine in Rev, with the exception of the line breaks

 I'm not sure where the uniencode/unidecode  could be used to solve the line
 break issue.

 Sivakatirswami



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Re: Music Notes, New Instruments Sound Channel Preview

2009-09-04 Thread stephen barncard
and quicktime is installed in your Windows system?
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2009/9/4 Kenji Kojima in...@kenjikojima.com

 Hi,

 I tried to make a PlayMIDI revlet.
 http://www.kenjikojima.com/revlet/PlayMIDI/

 It's based on HyperTalk's PLAY command
 http://www.kenjikojima.com/revlet/PlayMIDI/pmd.html

 I can play it on MacOS.  I have two problems.

 1) I cannot show a QuickTime controller on MacOS and Windows. only a border
 appears.

 2) I made a temporary MIID file into specialfolderpath(temporary). and
  set the filename of player playMidi to (specialfolderpath(temporary)
 /playPmdTemp.mid)
 It works on MacOS, but not on Windows.


 Thanks,
 --
 Kenji Kojima
 http://www.kenjikojima.com/






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Request to Ben Beaumont from remote attendee

2009-09-03 Thread stephen barncard
Hi Ben,

Could you please post the URL for the stack for D1-T2-S8: Advanced
Multimedia. There is  a file shown, advanceed-multimedia.zip, however
it's the stack for the Graphic Effects topic of an earlier
presentation.

thanks
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Re: faxing from a rev stack?

2009-09-03 Thread stephen barncard
You might look at Page Sender...I bought a copy several years ago for
occasional faxes before Apple started to include it in the OS. Good company.
http://www.smileonmymac.com/PageSender/index.html

NEED A SCRIPTABLE SOLUTION FOR FAXING INVOICES FROM FILEMAKER PRO?
PageSender is fully AppleScriptable and includes just such an example that
is customizable to your needs.


$40, free trial
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2009/9/3 Peter Brigham MD pmb...@gmail.com

 I'm interested in building a fax capability into one of my stack systems.
 I'm presuming that I'll need to call on a Mac fax application. Anyone know
 which app would be best to use and how to call on it it to fax by script
 from within rev?

 MacBook, OSX 10.5.8, Rev Studio 3.5.0-gm-2, build 870

 -- Peter

 Peter M. Brigham
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Re: On-Rev and Daylight Savings Time

2009-08-31 Thread stephen barncard
Actually google has a time-thingie on the 'home page'
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2009/8/31 Jim Ault jimaultw...@yahoo.com

 Since you will have a functioning internet connection,
 the quick answer would be to ping one of the many free time servers out
 there.
 Google search and choose the one you like.

 Jim Ault
 Las Vegas


 On Aug 31, 2009, at 2:58 PM, Gregory Lypny wrote:

  Hello everyone,

 How can I handle daylight savings time in my On-Rev code?  We're currently
 in DST in Montreal.  When I type

put the long time

 in Revolution's message box, I get the correct time as

5:52:13 PM

 but when I ask for the long time in an On-Rev handler I get

4:52:13 PM

 which is standard time.

 Getting the correct local time, at least within a half hour, is critical
 because it is being used to determine the start and end of an online
 experiment, and I can't have subject submitting form data outside those
 times.

 Much obliged,

 Gregory

 P.S.  I'm using a Mac.
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Re: [OT] Who still uses a Mac PPC?

2009-08-26 Thread stephen barncard
My 'main' machine is currently the 2.5 dual G5 with two 23 Cinema
displays, as it's very beneficial to have a great deal of real estate
for programming and my little MacBook pro can only do 1 extra monitor.

I'm stuck with the G5 for the time being as I have maxxed out the Pro
Tools original PCI bus hardware with the last PPC revision of PT 8.
The cards are so damn expensive to upgrade to a modern bus scheme that
it's not really worth it.

I have two g4s, an early 500mhz from 1999, and a newer, 'Silver Door'
model. Both were my previous Pro Tools machines. My son's 1999 Cube is
downstairs, non-functioning now but I have the parts to restore it. My
daughter's Purple DV edition iMac is also downstairs, awaiting repair.

My garage is a Mac graveyard with a representative of almost every
type of Mac ever made.   I fear if I send them away as  'electronic
waste' that they will end up in a far off place poisoning people with
toxics as they try and melt off the scrap gold of the motherboards and
get personal information from people's hard drives that they didn't
even bother to secure-erase.

I hate throwing away these oldest machines but they are pretty much
useless. Yes, they can be hooked up to 10-Base T networks,but the
browsers and internet software is not going to work that well with
today's java-powered net.

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http://barncard.com



2009/8/26 Richmond Mathewson richmondmathew...@gmail.com:
 With the advent of Mac OS 10.6; an Intel processor only OS I am interested
 to see who is
 still depending on Mac PPC computers (G3,G4,G5) to get their work done.
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Re: Determine last character of a variable

2009-08-26 Thread stephen barncard
put char 1 to -1  of tdata into tsubstring


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2009/8/26 Warren Kuhl warrenk...@gmail.com:
 This is probably a very stupid question..

 I am trying to extract a substring from a variable and am unsure how to
 determine the last character...

 I tried...
 put char 1 to last character of tdata into tsubstring
 ...but this fails.

 Thanks for any help!
 Warren
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Re: Determine last character of a variable

2009-08-26 Thread stephen barncard
Also good for whitespace removal in some cases...

put word 1 to -1 of whatever into tOutput

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2009/8/26 Warren Kuhl warrenk...@gmail.com:
 Phil/Stephen,

 Thanks for your help!  I never understood what the -1 meant when dealing
 with characters.

 Appreciate your quick responses!
 Warren


 On 8/26/09, Phil Davis rev...@pdslabs.net wrote:

 Try char 1 to -1 of tdata.

 char -1 is the last char
 char -2 is the next-to-last char
 and so on.

 Phil Davis


 Warren Kuhl wrote:

 This is probably a very stupid question..

 I am trying to extract a substring from a variable and am unsure how to
 determine the last character...

 I tried...
 put char 1 to last character of tdata into tsubstring
 ...but this fails.

 Thanks for any help!
 Warren
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Re: [OT] Who still uses a Mac PPC?

2009-08-26 Thread stephen barncard
OS9?

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2009/8/26  dunb...@aol.com:
 Twenty PPC's, G3-G5. Guess what most of them run.

 Craig Newman
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Re: [OT] Who still uses a Mac PPC?

2009-08-26 Thread stephen barncard
here's the official site for sheepshaver - intel / ppc

http://sheepshaver.cebix.net/

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2009/8/26 George C Brackett gbrack...@luceatlux.com:
 I'm quite different from all you folks in the way of hardware, it seems:
 just one 3 year-old MacBook Pro Intel Duo.  But I recently discovered a way
 to run OS 9 on my 'book, and thereby recovered the ability to run a bunch of
 my older educational software.  What a pleasure to see 'em again!  For the
 software that has made my day, see
 http://hotfilms.org/non-windows/sheepshaver-mac-os-9-classic-intel-13879.html.

 George

 On Aug 26, 2009, at 1:06 PM, Judy Perry wrote:

 Sounds like my house.

 I have:

 *Dual G4 tower
 *original iMac
 *2nd gen (Sapphire?) iMac (this one actually works)
 *G4 Cube
 *G4 iMac (well, two actually, but I'm parts-harvesting to make one
 fully-functional FrankenBook).

 The Cube's slot-loading drive has been replaced twice to no avail, so I'l be
 prowling for some sort of solution.  Sapphire iMac is used for email and
 playing the online game Escape Velocity by the kiddies, who will also get
 the FrankenBook when it's done.  I want the old original iMac for HC and a
 Mac OS 9-only graphics program and I'm not certain what to do with the old
 tower.  Oh, and I have a PM 7100 too ;-)  No idea whether that one even
 boots.

 Judy

 On Wed, 26 Aug 2009, stephen barncard wrote:

 I have two g4s, an early 500mhz from 1999, and a newer, 'Silver Door'
 model. Both were my previous Pro Tools machines. My son's 1999 Cube is
 downstairs, non-functioning now but I have the parts to restore it. My
 daughter's Purple DV edition iMac is also downstairs, awaiting repair.

 My garage is a Mac graveyard with a representative of almost every
 type of Mac ever made.   I fear if I send them away as  'electronic
 waste' that they will end up in a far off place poisoning people with
 toxics as they try and melt off the scrap gold of the motherboards and
 get personal information from people's hard drives that they didn't
 even bother to secure-erase.

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Re: [OT] Who still uses a Mac PPC?

2009-08-26 Thread stephen barncard
The rom: Isn't that a copyright violation?

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San Francisco
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2009/8/26 George C Brackett gbrack...@luceatlux.com:
 Correct.  But the URL I provided gives you a complete installation,
 including PPC ROM.  You just install the package, run the app, and voila: OS
 9 boots into a  window.

 George

 On Aug 26, 2009, at 4:25 PM, stephen barncard wrote:

 here's the official site for sheepshaver - intel / ppc

 http://sheepshaver.cebix.net/

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 San Francisco
 http://barncard.com



 2009/8/26 George C Brackett gbrack...@luceatlux.com:

 I'm quite different from all you folks in the way of hardware, it seems:
 just one 3 year-old MacBook Pro Intel Duo.  But I recently discovered a
 way
 to run OS 9 on my 'book, and thereby recovered the ability to run a bunch
 of
 my older educational software.  What a pleasure to see 'em again!  For the
 software that has made my day, see

 http://hotfilms.org/non-windows/sheepshaver-mac-os-9-classic-intel-13879.html.

 George

 On Aug 26, 2009, at 1:06 PM, Judy Perry wrote:

 Sounds like my house.

 I have:

 *Dual G4 tower
 *original iMac
 *2nd gen (Sapphire?) iMac (this one actually works)
 *G4 Cube
 *G4 iMac (well, two actually, but I'm parts-harvesting to make one
 fully-functional FrankenBook).

 The Cube's slot-loading drive has been replaced twice to no avail, so I'l
 be
 prowling for some sort of solution.  Sapphire iMac is used for email and
 playing the online game Escape Velocity by the kiddies, who will also get
 the FrankenBook when it's done.  I want the old original iMac for HC and a
 Mac OS 9-only graphics program and I'm not certain what to do with the old
 tower.  Oh, and I have a PM 7100 too ;-)  No idea whether that one even
 boots.

 Judy

 On Wed, 26 Aug 2009, stephen barncard wrote:

 I have two g4s, an early 500mhz from 1999, and a newer, 'Silver Door'
 model. Both were my previous Pro Tools machines. My son's 1999 Cube is
 downstairs, non-functioning now but I have the parts to restore it. My
 daughter's Purple DV edition iMac is also downstairs, awaiting repair.

 My garage is a Mac graveyard with a representative of almost every
 type of Mac ever made.   I fear if I send them away as  'electronic
 waste' that they will end up in a far off place poisoning people with
 toxics as they try and melt off the scrap gold of the motherboards and
 get personal information from people's hard drives that they didn't
 even bother to secure-erase.

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Re: [OT] Who still uses a Mac PPC?

2009-08-26 Thread stephen barncard
They finally got it right with 9.2.2

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2009/8/26 dunb...@aol.com

 Yep. My favorite OS.

 In a message dated 8/26/09 4:22:42 PM, stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com
 writes:


  OS9?
 


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Re: Change font color of script editor?

2009-08-25 Thread stephen barncard
Jerry Daniel's tRev allows chalkboard formatting, easy on the
eyes.(and a lot of other features... not to mention a great
editor...!)

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San Francisco
http://barncard.com



2009/8/25 Nicolas Cueto nicon...@gmail.com:
 Mathias,

 It's not possible in Rev.

 Here's what I've done instead, but be advised that it's tricky and may
 have unknow side-effects -- in my own case, two I've found are  the
 flashing insertion point is not visible against a black background,
 and the Help Document font colors will require tweaking.

 In Preferences, set background color to black (actually, a dark grey
 is better, if you want to see the flashing insertion point) and
 check-on Revolution UI Elements appear in lists of stacks.

 Next, open the Script Editor (for any object). Open the Application
 Browser to find listed revNewScriptEditor (not revNewScriptEditor
 1 etc); click its card 1 to show the stack.

 Do a Search on the revNewScriptEditor stack for the first line of
 this handler:

   command seColorizationLoadScheme pScheme, @pPreferencesArray

 In that handler, look for 'case default', where you'll see lines like this:

   group commands none 255,255,0

 The none refers to a font style (none, italic, bold -- but I'm not
 sure if those are the exact terms), and the set of numbers is the RGB
 color code.

 Play around with those number sets till you find a combination you
 like. And then save the stack.

 Again, though, this type of modification is not the usual thing to do
 with Rev. In fact, before making changes to the color codes, make a
 backup copy of the scripts you change in case you want to revert to
 things as they were.

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Re: Syllabic division of words

2009-08-21 Thread stephen barncard
Good ideas. We're a bunch of working stiffs here; I'm sure we can do it for
the right hourly. You have the pick of the best of us here on this list.If
you've got the funding, Im ready to go. Not afraid at all. We'll need a
little while.

Bill Atkinson was well funded and supported and was fortunate to work in a
think tank, and with a company that gave him a lot of rope.

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2009/8/21 Randall Reetz rand...@randallreetz.com

 What would it take to scare a bunch of computers jockeys?  Not much.
  Innovation?  You don't get on top of everest in one leap.  And you don't
 wait around for miracles if you want to move up a hill.  Nobody is asking
 for perfection or completion here.  Just some baby steps.  Phonemic and
 phrase chunking isn't exactly rocket science.  But it is if you expect it to
 be pulled of at the scale of user level scripting.  Hierarchical thesaurus
 semantic chains would be a fairly simple addition as well.  Oh well.  I have
 been well whipped for speaking out for what WILL matter.  God forbid  we go
 there first.  Scared, controlling, and mean spirited.  That is exactly what
 I have come to expect of geeks.  Sad.

 -Original Message-
 From: J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com
 Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 6:51 PM
 To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
 Subject: Re: Syllabic division of words

 Randall Reetz wrote:
  How much better my
  meaning abstractions would be if I had access to more info than which
  strings sat between space characters.
 ...
 
  What would be as revolutionary today as hypercard was twenty some
  years ago?

 What you're asking for is a whole field in itself, not a goal for a
 development environment. I know someone who has been working on computer
 AI for 10 or 15 years, trying to parse natural language into meaning,
 using xtalk as far back as HyperCard. This isn't a detour I want RR to
 take. But you could. Write it yourself.

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 HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
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Re: Line wrapping

2009-08-17 Thread stephen barncard
It's better for one to do one's own wrapping.
for instance

put field myField of cd myCard of stack myStack into field myField2
of cd nextCard of stack otherStack

is a horrible jumble of garbage to the eyes, but

 put\

  field myField \

  of cd myCard \

  of stack myStack \

  into field myField2 \

  of cd nextCard \

  of stack otherStack


makes a lot of sense. Automatic wrapping can't do that. And it's easier to
edit the references. And the compiler and indenter both are happy with it.
And one can make the edit window narrower.



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2009/8/17 dunb...@aol.com

 Mark.

 In an earlier Rev? So the line wrap automatically added a \ at compile
 time? That reallyt would be useful.

 Craig

 In a message dated 8/17/09 4:40:50 PM, m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com
 writes:


  Hi Craig,
 
  It was implemented before and I used it a lot. That made it
  unnecessary to use line break chars. Hence my frustrations now.
 

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Re: Text number conversion

2009-08-17 Thread stephen barncard
the x is just to show that it's a HEX 16 bit number
just do a baseconvert on  the 7B66 part.

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2009/8/17 Len Morgan len-mor...@crcom.net

 I'm talking to a microprocessor device using sockets and it returns a
 string like the following:

 0,0x7BCC

 The first item is a status code and the number after the comma is the hex
 value expressed as ASCII characters.  It will always be 4 digits.  I can't
 seem to convert this into a number (using baseConvert).  Is there some
 conversion command that I can't find?  I need a number because I'm after
 just one or two bits in that number and I can't use bitAnd unless I've got
 a number to work with.

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Re: Text number conversion

2009-08-17 Thread stephen barncard
put baseConvert(7B66,16,10)


31590


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2009/8/17 stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com

 the x is just to show that it's a HEX 16 bit number
 just do a baseconvert on  the 7B66 part.

 -
 Stephen Barncard
 San Francisco
 http://barncard.com


 2009/8/17 Len Morgan len-mor...@crcom.net

 I'm talking to a microprocessor device using sockets and it returns a
 string like the following:

 0,0x7BCC

 The first item is a status code and the number after the comma is the hex
 value expressed as ASCII characters.  It will always be 4 digits.  I can't
 seem to convert this into a number (using baseConvert).  Is there some
 conversion command that I can't find?  I need a number because I'm after
 just one or two bits in that number and I can't use bitAnd unless I've got
 a number to work with.

 len morgan
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Re: Line wrapping

2009-08-17 Thread stephen barncard
Somehow the mailer put spaces between each line of code. Obviously that
won't compile but it does look right in the editors.

-
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San Francisco
http://barncard.com


2009/8/17 Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com

 stephen barncard wrote:

  It's better for one to do one's own wrapping.
 for instance

 put field myField of cd myCard of stack myStack into field
 myField2
 of cd nextCard of stack otherStack

 is a horrible jumble of garbage to the eyes, but

  put\

  field myField \

  of cd myCard \

  of stack myStack \

  into field myField2 \

  of cd nextCard \

  of stack otherStack


 makes a lot of sense. Automatic wrapping can't do that. And it's easier to
 edit the references. And the compiler and indenter both are happy with it.
 And one can make the edit window narrower.


 A good point, well illustrated.

 Another benefit of adding line wraps manually is that it requires you to
 read the code at least well enough to find usful line breaks, sometimes a
 useful task when inheriting a code base.

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Re: lineoffset doesn't find empty lines

2009-08-16 Thread stephen barncard
find all double CRs? if CR is your line delimiter. An empty line would
always have a second line delimiter like itself immediately afterward.

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San Francisco
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2009/8/16 Brian Yennie bri...@qldlearning.com

 I would think that technically, it should work with wholeMatches = true.
 Otherwise, with wholeMatches = false, it should return nothing.

 I based this on consistency with the normal string logic that:

 empty = empty (TRUE)
 empty contains empty (FALSE)

 With that said, it sounds like lineOffset isn't equipped to deal with this.
 Maybe you could use something like:

 offset( (the lineDelimiter)(thelineDelimiter) ) ?


  Hi

 I was trying to find an empty line in some text, and thought that
 lineoffset would be perfect for that. however, it seems to not work with the
 search-string being .

 I also thought this used to work (though i'm not totally sure, and haven't
 checked).

 So.. bug or not?

 thanks
 björnke


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Re: onRev Question About Making a Log-in Page

2009-08-13 Thread stephen barncard
check SPLASH21's site. A fantastic CMS written mostly in rev with help by
javascript. You can download all the source code.This will show you how it's
done by an experienced web developer.

http://splash21.on-rev.com/

-
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San Francisco
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2009/8/13 Petrides, M.D. Marian mpetri...@earthlink.net

 I certainly would find this helpful, too.  TIA.


 On Aug 13, 2009, at 7:09 PM, Gregory Lypny wrote:

  Hello everyone,

 Curious to know whether there are any examples of an onRev log-in page,
 that is, where the server remembers the visitor during their session, that I
 might learn from.  I was thinking of concocting with Rev to pass tokens, but
 it would be nice to see a number of approaches.

 Regards,

Gregory


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Re: Importing gMail?

2009-08-13 Thread stephen barncard
It's easy to make a spaminator in Rev, but a good email list program should
have features like list management, user authentication and unsubscribe, and
bounced email management. Look at the features in the most popular mail list
server, Mailman, which indeed is the software that manages the Rev lists.
Most ISPs offer it for free. 'Several Hundred' recipients sounds like a lot
of users to handle without those features.
It
looks like you're trying to do a survey. Perhaps there's a better way
than simple email responses. If you have on-rev you could make a form
that collects response and allows only one vote per IP.
It could keep the tally in a simple text
file. Not idiot proof but fine for a small group. You should be able to do
the same thing using the plugin.

And yes, you could make a thing that gathers emails, but it would have to
allow 1 vote per email, and write some kind of form to work inside the
email. A lot more trouble, IMHO than making a simple web page.

-
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San Francisco
http://barncard.com


2009/8/13 James Hurley jhurley0...@sbcglobal.net

 I'm thinking of sending a query (kind of an open ended survey) via gMail to
 members of my neighborhood association.

 I'm expecting a couple hundred replies. Is there some way to import the
 responses into Rev programatically for subsequent processing?

 I've come to believe that there is nothing that members of this list cannot
 do. Is this a bridge too far?

 Jim Hurley

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printing reduced graphics

2009-08-10 Thread stephen barncard
Hi Gang,
I've had this personal app in Rev that creates CD labels from Waveburner
rundown files. This was originally an HC stack but I converted to Runrev
years ago and made many improvements. One feature was to include image
controls on the card to print those images.   When I started using this app,
I used .pct images because they were uncompressed and would scale nicely and
print with more resolution when reduced.   Unfortunately, PICT files are now
not encouraged and are not cross platform. So I went to .png graphics, which
can do transparency, it seemed like a good fit and seemed to work as well in
earlier versions of Rev.
However, in the recent versions (3.0) they print terribly, are all fuzzy.
What happened? Is there some antialiasing that should be turned off or what?
My graphics look like dirt again. I looked at some earlier printings and
they looked great.

I'm using *print card*  using the dialogs. Hide a few control groups, 'take'
the print snapshot, restore the groups. It's a standalone on Mac OS 10.5.7

sqb

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Re: printing reduced graphics

2009-08-10 Thread stephen barncard
They are resized with a slider ... so I need to set the quality to best
every time I change the image size?
Is the default set to bad normally?

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2009/8/10 Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com

 Recently, stephen barncard wrote:

  I've had this personal app in Rev that creates CD labels from Waveburner
  rundown files. This was originally an HC stack but I converted to Runrev
  years ago and made many improvements. One feature was to include image
  controls on the card to print those images.   When I started using this
 app,
  I used .pct images because they were uncompressed and would scale nicely
 and
  print with more resolution when reduced.   Unfortunately, PICT files are
 now
  not encouraged and are not cross platform. So I went to .png graphics,
 which
  can do transparency, it seemed like a good fit and seemed to work as well
 in
  earlier versions of Rev.
  However, in the recent versions (3.0) they print terribly, are all fuzzy.
  What happened? Is there some antialiasing that should be turned off or
 what?
  My graphics look like dirt again. I looked at some earlier printings and
  they looked great.

 If you're resizing the images, did you try setting the resizeQuality of the
 images to best?

 Regards,

 Scott Rossi

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Re: [ANN] tRev Feature Friday Videos!

2009-08-08 Thread stephen barncard
Nicolas,
dictonary.com:

FLAME

Computer Slang. an *angry*, *critical*, or *disparaging* electronic message,
as an e-mail or newsgroup post.


Sorry but it was a flame - and then you came back and did it again. All I
know is that I winced when I saw that. Dissing a third party tool without
allowing the developer to respond and allowing him to help you is not
constructive. This is a friendly list.

Remember we're all developers in the same boat here, these words go far and
wide around the world (and sit there forever) and it doesn't take much to
turn a potential customer off of making a purchasing discussion.  It could
happen to you. The golden rule, Karma, etc is at play here.

As far as Posterous, it's the response system that Jerry has chosen for this
product and it works quite well, and I've been subscribed for over a
year, and never gotten a single spam message or promo through or by
them.  How do I know that? Because I routinely make up an email alias
for things I sign up for. This provides two things: I can see who's
spamming me, and a 'quick disconnect' from the offending site if
needed.   I have over 50 email addresses for this purpose. Once one
signs up, one is good for any number of blogs that one desires.
Subscribe to  other
blogs, start your own. Most ISPs will allow a number of email addresses or
aliases. Finally, google mail does such a good job of filtering that the
spammers will probably give up soon. It's that good.

I think Jerry has said what has to be said, and it's a master class in how
to treat customers. I hope your future customers can look forward to the
same calm, cool, response.

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2009/8/8 Nicolas Cueto nicon...@gmail.com

 Defense shields coming up...

 Let's be clear -- I was not flaming or bashing Jerry's work at all.
 Why else, as Brian observed, would I return each time for more
 punishment? Cause the whole concept of Jerry's work, as frustrating as
 the software might be, is the way the Rev ide should ideally work.

 Anyway, thank you for the rev-editor website ref, but I already knew
 about it. Why am I posting here then? Well, it is not clear on the
 rev-editor page how to post a comment. Tried the login area, but just
 a spiel there about joining something called Posterous (Sign up is
 a snap, and lets you customize and edit your posterous.).

 So, not wanting to hand out my email address to a Posterous, and,
 just as importantly, given that others here were already talking about
 tRev (Sarah, I would've purchased tRev eventually, cause I do like
 Jerry's work),  I took the tacit go-ahead and posted here.

 Anyway.

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Re: libURL HTTP downloading

2009-08-08 Thread stephen barncard
Perhaps Trevor could chime in here... he has a upgraded version of libURL
that is used in his GLX Application Framework, however I don't know if it
will work outside his environment or if it can solve your problem, but it's
worth checking out.

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2009/8/8 Phil Davis rev...@pdslabs.net

 I assume that, when using Rev's libURL-based HTTP downloading, errors are
 more likely to occur when downloading many smaller files than when
 downloading a few larger ones. Statistically this makes sense, but can
 anyone speak to this from their experience? The many small files scenario
 I'm talking about is a few hundred files in a single download sequence, with
 most files in the under-1mb category except for a few .mov files that are
 typically 5 to 70mb each.

 I'm trying to decide if it's worth the effort to add server-side scripting
 that zips the smaller files into larger clumps before downloading.

 Thanks for your feedback! I'm using libUrlVersion 1.1.6.
 --
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 Professional Software Development
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Re: [OT] Project Canvas!

2009-08-07 Thread stephen barncard
They can try, but it's still Realbasic underneath..
I wonder if Realbasic has script limits...

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2009/8/7 Devin Asay devin_a...@byu.edu


 On Aug 7, 2009, at 11:26 AM, jim sims wrote:

  Hmmm... just got this email. Kinda. sorta. sounds like a Revlet thang.


 A quick peak at the company's web site reveals this:

 All Koingo Software titles are proudly developed using REALbasic, and the
 comprehensive plugin set from Monkeybread Software.

 So it looks like they're building a Hyper-Cardy interface on top of
 REALbasic.

 Devin

 Devin Asay
 Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
 Brigham Young University


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Re: [OT] Project Canvas!

2009-08-07 Thread stephen barncard
perhaps not if they made their own interpreter/compiler/syntax. But wouldn't
that abstraction be pretty slow,then?

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2009/8/7 Ian Wood revl...@azurevision.co.uk


 On 7 Aug 2009, at 18:57, Devin Asay wrote:

  So it looks like they're building a Hyper-Cardy interface on top of
 REALbasic.


 Wouldn't that be against the REALbasic EULA, assuming it's similar to the
 Runrev one?

 Ian

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Re: [ANN] tRev Feature Friday Videos!

2009-08-07 Thread stephen barncard
I'm sorry you have problems.
try this first
http://www.revmentor.com/

Or email Jerry directly. He supports they who ask, but doesn't monitor this
list 24/7. You can find his email in one of his previous posts in this
thread.
A great feature of tRev is that it's just Jerry, no corporate layers or
phone trees. He's always quick to support his products.

One thing I did was to completely remove  GLX2 components from my plugins.
Not needed.

I have had 0 problems with tRev.

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2009/8/7 Nicolas Cueto nicon...@gmail.com


 I just bought tRev an hour ago, and already I am frustrated with and
 by it. (As I have been with GLX2, and the GLX before that...)

 I tried to find on the tRev site some forum or mailing list for it, but no
 luck.

 If there is one, how do I join?

 If there isn't, how do I ask for help with tRev?

 (Sorry for bothering the list.)

 --
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Re: [ANN] tRev Feature Friday LIVE!

2009-08-06 Thread stephen barncard
so in other words, we don't sign up in advance, it's first come first served
for the webinarright?

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2009/8/6 Jerry Daniels jerry.dani...@me.com

 Fellow Scripters,

 We are hosting another Feature Friday for tRev, the new socket-based script
 editor that lives outside Revolution's IDE. Other than a few minor
 installation glitches, we have experienced unparalleled stability with the
 product running and editing.

 Over the last week, we have added some significant features. I'll be
 showing them LIVE at a webinar on Friday, Aug 7. Be forewarned: we have only
 15 slots open for tRev Feature Friday LIVE!

 tRev will have three new features and one of them is...BIG.

 At 10:00 AM CDT/US we'll be releasing the following:
 - A new version of the application for download
 - New components available via tRev's updater

 At 10:00 AM CDT/US we'll be hosting:
 - A live webinar where tRev's developer walks you through the new features
 - A video afterwards for those who couldn't get into the webinar

 Click the link at the bottom to attend Feature Friday and/or find out more
 about tRev.

 Best,

 Jerry Daniels

 tRev Feature Friday:
 http://reveditor.com/trev-feature-friday-aug-7-will-be-live

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Re: Message path and standalones

2009-08-03 Thread stephen barncard
The 'splash screen method' is indeed a wonderful feature of Runrev,
especially in a Macintosh standalone. And yes 'start using' works fine in a
standalone.
But the path strategy is different for a standalone than working in the IDE.
 The paths have to be specified in relation to the stack engine, not the IDE
engines and externals in their normal places on your drive.

I won't run down the exact sequence of how to do it, but  a couple of clues:

use the 'effective filename of this stack' to get your standalones' location
(from within the running standalone code)
and set the location of the stacks to include relative to that. Relative
addressing works.

ALSO

remember you can
open up the .app package and WORK DIRECTLY with those stacks in the
IDE,   You don't have to rebuild the standalone each time,
unless you add externals or need to add features from a newer version of
Runrev that wasn't there before.

Not only can you edit, compile and run, you can also FIX stuff. And you can
leave the IDE idling while you test in the standalone.

 It's the speediest, easiest way to work for me at least...


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2009/8/3 François Chaplais francois.chapl...@mines-paristech.fr

 I am currently trying to compile my stack(s) into MacOS X standalones. This
 is rev studio 3.5 gm2.
 I am trying to use the Splash page inplementation for the standalone.
 I am looking for confirmation and, if possible explanation for the
 following facts
 a) start using stack etc... does not seem to work in a standalone, i.e.
 handlers that should be in the extended message path are not executed. I can
 reproduce that on an elementary stack.
 b) send (message etc...) to the proper object works
 c)  handlers which are not in the message path in the are not detected in
 the IDE at compile time, but only at runtime. Wouldn't it be nice if this
 could be detected at compile time?

 Finally, I have not tried behaviors and I would be glad if I could get some
 info on their behavior, so to speak, in a standalone with multiple stacks.

 cheers from Paris

François

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Re: [ANN] Stacks published on the Web

2009-08-01 Thread stephen barncard
Alejandro!!! awesome work
sqb

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2009/7/31 Alejandro Tejada capellan2...@yahoo.com

 Hi all,

 Visit the following pages with 3 stacks saved for web:
 http://aulasdigitales.net/test01.html
 http://aulasdigitales.net/test02.html
 http://aulasdigitales.net/test03.html

 These pages will be available until Sunday.

 Have a nice weekend!

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Re: Is there a comfortable way the print scripts?

2009-08-01 Thread stephen barncard
You could write a script to print it in columns, but  wouldn't
your code wrap in the columns?  Seems like that would be harder to
read.

My advice:
Get a bigger screen and don't print it out at all!   save a tree.


Sometimes I print out a few lines I need to notate but I think most of
us try to keep the paper waste down if possible.

sorry if this sounds arrogant.
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2009/7/31 Reinhold Venzl-Schubert r.venzl-schub...@macbay.de:
 Hi!

 I like the study my script comfortable in the arm chair.
 When I print it directly with Rev, I need a lot of paper.
 Therefore I copy it into a texteditor and print it with two columns on a
 sheet.

 Is there any economical way in Rev?

 Thanks
 Reinhold
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Re: [ANN] Two new features for tRev - Video

2009-07-31 Thread stephen barncard
and tRev's a mean, lean coding machine..

nice work Jerry.  I think I can move over from GLX2 now.

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2009/7/31 Jerry Daniels jerry.dani...@me.com

 One and all,

 Today is a Feature Friday on the tRev site (link below). There's a video
 and a new version for registered users.

 Enjoy!

 Jerry Daniels
 Check out our Feature Friday video
 http://reveditor.com/feature-friday-two-new-features
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Re: [OT] Is there a future for CentOS or systems to run on your web server

2009-07-31 Thread stephen barncard
Isn't that what the CENTOS people were trying to do on their site, to get
everyone to calm down?
Speculation could kill a good product. A warning  like that to possibly
non-technical people could elicit panic.

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2009/7/31 Judy Perry jper...@ecs.fullerton.edu

 Our department has been using CentOS (which is what I'm logged into at the
 moment) for our departmental server for at least a year now with no problems
 that I've heard of.

 The news about the head going Away WithOut Leave is disconcerting, as my
 neighbor's employer, a pretty good sized monthly membership services
 company, is probably going to be switching over to Cent OS...  better warn
 her I guess.

 Judy


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Re: [OT] Is there a future for CentOS or systems to run on your web server

2009-07-31 Thread stephen barncard
Well by saying  'warned' you already put a spin on something that may not be
that big a deal. The only problem is with the website domain name,
really

I've already stuck my nose in too far... never mind

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2009/7/31 Judy Perry jper...@ecs.fullerton.edu

 Are you saying that you wouldn't want to be warned?

 Judy

 On Fri, 31 Jul 2009, stephen barncard wrote:

  Isn't that what the CENTOS people were trying to do on their site, to get
 everyone to calm down?
 Speculation could kill a good product. A warning  like that to possibly
 non-technical people could elicit panic.

 2009/7/31 Judy Perry jper...@ecs.fullerton.edu

  Our department has been using CentOS (which is what I'm logged into at
 the
 moment) for our departmental server for at least a year now with no
 problems
 that I've heard of.

 The news about the head going Away WithOut Leave is disconcerting, as my
 neighbor's employer, a pretty good sized monthly membership services
 company, is probably going to be switching over to Cent OS...  better
 warn
 her I guess.

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Re: [OT] Is there a future for CentOS or systems to run on your web server

2009-07-31 Thread stephen barncard
Because in this fast-paced internet world of ours, rumor and innuendo spread
fast, either from not knowing all the facts, making assumptions, or not
reading all of the information, leads to the needless destruction of
reputations and livelihoods.

Why spread fear about something we don't really know that much about?
Like I said, the only issue is the stupid domain name.

What they say on the site:
Facts Regarding CentOS and the Open Letter to Lance
Davishttp://www.centos.org/
CentOS is not dead or going away. The signers of the Open Letter are fully
committed to continue the CentOS Project. Updates and new releases will
continue.
The issues raised in the Open Letter have been raised privately literally
for years and a voluntary resolution had been hoped for and worked toward.
But progress requires follow through. We have tried contacting Lance in
private for a long period of time before this Open Letter. While we received
promises, there was no real response or follow through from him on promises
made. We are sure he is not dead, on vacation, or sick. Once we all decided
there was no movement in the matter we created the Open Letter. This is not
something that appeared just recently.
We would really like to continue the project using the centos.org domain.
That is one of the reasons for the Open Letter. But the developers will move
to another domain if there is no other option. Protective backups are in
place; hot machines exist to allow for a cutover with a simple one time
installation of one RPM package. We continue to refine our plans if this
might be the case, to make the transition as smooth as possible.

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2009/7/31 Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com

 Hi all,

 My conclusion after reading the CentOS web site is: CentOS is dead. What
 indicates that this conclusion is wrong?

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Re: RevMedia 4 does not like my animated gifs (constantMask problem)

2009-07-30 Thread stephen barncard
That's an absurd demand for a web host, even a free one. TIME TO MOVE TO A
NEW ONE.


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2009/7/30 Alejandro Tejada capellan2...@yahoo.com

 Hi all,

 If Yahoo complaints about exceeding downloads limits, please
 wait 15 or 30 minutes to try again.

 Thanks in advance.

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Re: Reading a Word File

2009-07-29 Thread stephen barncard
Yes, it's possible, as Google has shown, that it's possible to 'crack' the
MS formats, but it is not trivial, and not published.
What is usually suggested is to tell whoever is supplying the documents you
need to process in RTF format, which any copy of Word can do, and you can
preserve most of the formatting.

Parsing such a
document must still be done carefully, but the RTF specs are published online.

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2009/7/29 Gregory Lypny gregory.ly...@videotron.ca

 Hello everyone,

 Is it possible to read a portion, say, 300 lines, of a Word file (.doc)
 into a Rev field and keep most the formatting or otherwise strip it away?

 Regards,

Gregory
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Re: [ANN] Watch a video about a whole new approach to script editing

2009-07-28 Thread stephen barncard
I can step in here. T-Rev and GLX2 are two different products. One does not
need the other.

T-rev is a radically different approach to editing scripts in Rev. The
former approach, tapping into Rev's Editor hooks from standard Rev windows
running in the IDE can be a dicy, moving-target nightmare for an outside
developer, and I'm sure Jerry's run into name-space and messaging issues
among other things. Daniels and Mara should get some kind of award for even
attempting Galaxy and GLX2. I'm sure it was a long way from being easy to
accomplish - and thanks for doing it.
But Jerry is a very smart and resourceful fellow, and he's been alway
looking for other ways to do things, poking at this idea for a while: Get
out of the rev IDE namespace and 'remote control' the IDE by using a
temporary plugin and sockets. Brilliant!  I never got the concept editor to
work for me a couple of years ago, but this TRev thing really rocks. It's
more like the zippy editor we had in Hypercard.

T-Rev is to the point and just damn simple. And really fast. Whatever Jerry's
done here, it's a world of difference vs. any other editing tool for Rev.

Another great feature is  Jerry Himself.. and the anticipated discussion
group that will go with the product. I'm sure a lot of features will be
added with the very frequent updates. So it's a living, breathing,
continually updated application. Watch it being developed before your eyes.

At the same time, I'm sure he's going to keep the feature-itus to a
minimum, to keep it lean. Most of the 'good stuff' is there now.

And thanks, Jerry for the ongoing 'Chalkboard' motif...  (I'm probably one
of three people that asked for it in GLX2.)

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2009/7/28 Robert M. r...@free.fr


 Hi, what is not clear to me is how trev relates to GLX2 editor
 -- what is common in the 2 prgrams, (I guess automatic completion)
 -- what are function in GLX that have not been carried into Trex? (I guess
 the debugger part)
 -- what's added in tRev that is not in GLX? (I guess the visual inspector)

 what is the cope of use of both a the tools?
 thanks,
 Robert (user of GLX2)


 Jerry Daniels-2 wrote:
 
 
  We made a video showing it in action:
 
  http://reveditor.com/trev-the-movie
 
  fo/use-revolution
 
 


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 View this message in context:
 http://www.nabble.com/-ANN--Watch-a-video-about-a-whole-new-approach-to-script-editing-tp24690839p24698086.html
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Re: [ANN] Watch a video about a whole new approach to script editing

2009-07-27 Thread stephen barncard
Hi Jerry,
I have an early beta of T-Rev and it is indeed fast.
Now what we need is a fast, responsive debugger to go with it. Can you make
your new method work for that function?

-
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San Francisco
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2009/7/27 Jerry Daniels jerry.dani...@me.com

 Fellow editors of scripts,

 I have really enjoyed the great new features in Rev 3.5 and 4.0, as have
 all of us. One of those improvements came in the form of a new script
 editor. As a developer of a third-party suite of development tools, this
 created new opportunities for our little company (me and the Missus).

 The big opening we saw in Revolution's new IDE was actually not IN the IDE,
 but OUTSIDE of it. We wrote a new, compact, high-performance script editor
 that lives entirely outside of Revolution. It communicates with Revolution
 via a small plugin using sockets.

 We made a video showing it in action:

   http://reveditor.com/trev-the-movie

 This new approach to script editing is called tRev (TEE-rev). It is very
 fast. And it is incredibly stable. I have not had it crash once in nearly a
 month of heavy use. Other early adopters are reporting the same result.

 Here's what it does for you:
 - compiles
 - handles compile errors
 - responds immediately to execution errors (without locking up)
 - sports twenty tabs
 - provides inline auto-completion (clairvoyance)
 - updates any or all of its components (has 25 components) without
 restarting
 - automatically checks for updates on your behalf
 - offers no-click inspection from either Rev or itself
 - makes itself transparent so you can inspect THROUGH it
 - archives up to 30 copies of the stacks you are editing
 - lives in its own space without any IDE conflicts

 You should click this link to watch the video:

   http://reveditor.com/trev-the-movie

 You should click the link below to buy a pre-release version from the
 RevSelect store:

  http://runrev.com/products/related-software/trev-editor/

 Start the popcorn popping and enjoy our block-buster movie!

 Best,

 Jerry Daniels
 http://reveditor.com
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Re: [ANN] Watch a video about a whole new approach to script editing

2009-07-27 Thread stephen barncard
Looks great, Jerry. I've supported this concept editor for a long time in
theory and I'm glad you got it working so well. My early beta rocks, now I
guess I have to step up to the plate.

Arg. I have to order through the ghastly Rev ordering pages (it doesn't know
who I am), and I'm sure my bank and VISA is going to refuse the attempt. RBS
doesn't have a good reputation over here I guess. I really hate having to
call the bank EACH time I make a purchase at the Rev store.
Are you guys going to have some kind of EASY payment system someday, at
least for the third party items like this
one? This is like the third degree all over again.  It would seem that the
hassle factor would kill off some of the business, no?

No Paypal?

-
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San Francisco
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2009/7/27 stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com

 Hi Jerry,
 I have an early beta of T-Rev and it is indeed fast.
 Now what we need is a fast, responsive debugger to go with it. Can you make
 your new method work for that function?

 -
 Stephen Barncard
 San Francisco
 http://barncard.com


 2009/7/27 Jerry Daniels jerry.dani...@me.com

 Fellow editors of scripts,

 I have really enjoyed the great new features in Rev 3.5 and 4.0, as have
 all of us. One of those improvements came in the form of a new script
 editor. As a developer of a third-party suite of development tools, this
 created new opportunities for our little company (me and the Missus).

 The big opening we saw in Revolution's new IDE was actually not IN the
 IDE, but OUTSIDE of it. We wrote a new, compact, high-performance script
 editor that lives entirely outside of Revolution. It communicates with
 Revolution via a small plugin using sockets.

 We made a video showing it in action:

   http://reveditor.com/trev-the-movie

 This new approach to script editing is called tRev (TEE-rev). It is very
 fast. And it is incredibly stable. I have not had it crash once in nearly a
 month of heavy use. Other early adopters are reporting the same result.

 Here's what it does for you:
 - compiles
 - handles compile errors
 - responds immediately to execution errors (without locking up)
 - sports twenty tabs
 - provides inline auto-completion (clairvoyance)
 - updates any or all of its components (has 25 components) without
 restarting
 - automatically checks for updates on your behalf
 - offers no-click inspection from either Rev or itself
 - makes itself transparent so you can inspect THROUGH it
 - archives up to 30 copies of the stacks you are editing
 - lives in its own space without any IDE conflicts

 You should click this link to watch the video:

   http://reveditor.com/trev-the-movie

 You should click the link below to buy a pre-release version from the
 RevSelect store:

  http://runrev.com/products/related-software/trev-editor/

 Start the popcorn popping and enjoy our block-buster movie!

 Best,

 Jerry Daniels
 http://reveditor.com
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Re: Any thoughts on speed limitations of Revlet?

2009-07-26 Thread stephen barncard
NINE BALL looks and works great here.  Mac G5 dual 2.5 ghzAwesome
ballistics and graphics.

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2009/7/26 James Hurley jhurley0...@sbcglobal.net



 Unfortunately, if Richard is right about the bumpy behavior being  natural
 by-product of running inside the browser , it does not look good for
 porting games to a revlet.
 Take a look at Nine Ball on the web:

 http://jamesphurley.on-rev.com/NineBall/test.html

 Not good at all.

 Jim Hurley






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Re: Any thoughts on speed limitations of Revlet?

2009-07-25 Thread stephen barncard
Jim, that's URL encoding.   %20 is hex 20, ascii space. There are spaces in
the filename.

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2009/7/25 James Hurley jhurley0...@sbcglobal.net


   P.S. The stack I tried was RainbowTest.rev and if you are interested
 you  can see it in action by running the line below in the message box. And
 if  you have Rev 4.0 you can create your own test by saving it for the web.
  go url http://www.jamesphurley.com/RainbowTest.rev;
  Not only does the mouseMove handler run lethargically, but the image
 (a  flashlight, or up in Scotland, a torch) carrying that script breaks up
 on  the screen, i.e. the image breaks up into two separate parts. Odd.

  I tested your stack Jim. It was very interesting as it worked at full
 speed when running in the browser but from the files on my desktop. When I
 uploaded the revlet  it's html file to my web server 
 http://troz.on-rev.com/rainbow/test.html, it ran as described.
 Interestingly, the Draw bunches script runs fine, it seems to be dragging
 the torch around that causes the delay. This may be an optimization thing
 that will be improved as the plugin develops, or it may be that mouseMoves
 need to be handled differently.
  Cheers, Sarah


 Thanks Sarah. Your feed back was very helpful. I confess that when I ran
 the stack I posted to you I got the same results you did--and not the same
 as I obtained earlier when I ran the full stack from which I extracted the
 bit I posted.

 Just to isolate the  issue of the graphic display, I tried a very simple
 stack: A single image (my barn last winter) with a MouseMove handler.

 go url http://www.jamesphurley.com/MoveGraphicTest.rev;

 When I drag this image around the screen (running in Safari from the file
 on my desktop) I found the motion to be rather bumpy, not nearly as smooth
 as when running in desktop RunRev. It is tolerable, but bumpy. As you say,
 this may be something that needs tweaking as the plug in evolves.

 I haven't tried uploading it to the my web server. Not sure how to proceed
 to the next step. The url in Safari looks like this:

 file:///Rev%20apps%20on%20web/Untitled%201/test.html

 I never have figured out what character the  %20 is a substitution for.
 Little help? How would I proceed from this Safari rendition to posting it to
 my on-rev web site for a test?

 Thanks,

 Jim Hurley

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Re: Website not allowing revlets

2009-07-24 Thread stephen barncard

 How many hosting services are going to behave in the same way?


only the cheesiest. I have never heard of a hosting service do such a thing.
What if one were creating their own file type?

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2009/7/23 Richmond Mathewson richmondmathew...@gmail.com

 I made a test stack and built a web revlet: the html
 page ran extremely smoothly in Safari when it was on
 my Hard drive.

 When I uploaded the html page and the revlet to my
 website, the revlet vanished because the web hoster would
 not allow files of that type . . . something that needs to be
 investigated.

 How many hosting services are going to behave in the same way?
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Re: web app scalability

2009-07-23 Thread stephen barncard
Yes each page access is an application load at the server and it appears
that there is no need for 'session variables' as in PHP as every variable
created in rev is only good for the time the document executes.  I'm not
clear what the difference in script locals and globals would be here, unless
the globals persist between sessions, which they don't.

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2009/7/22 Mark Stuart mfstu...@cox.net

 Written by stevex64 on Wed Jul 22, 2009 - 10:11 PM CDT

 

 Hi Forum,

 What is known about how well Rev web apps can handle a load? If I put a Rev

 app on a server and the app reads data from a flat file, or from a MySQL

 database, is there any way to estimate how it will behave when 100 or 1000

 people are hitting it at the same time? Does the server spawn a new
 instance

 of the app for every user?

 Thanks for any comments.

 Steve

 



 Good question Steve, I've been afraid to ask because I've invested so much
 into RunRev.

 So far my RunRev applications have been single user apps, so about time to
 know this.



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Re: Getting a Rev App to have an icon on the Apple Menu bar

2009-07-20 Thread stephen barncard
I have the same setup and the last version but the folders do not appear.
Also Benoit Wiedemann does not support it for Tiger and beyond and has to
run in emulation - no intel code. What's the trick to get them to appear?
IMPORTANT: AliasMenu is *not sold anymore, nor supported*. You can emulate
most of AliasMenu's features with Leopard's dock (for menus) and AliasKeys
(for shortcuts).

WRONG. The dock feature is nothing like aliasmenus. I wonder why he quit
supporting it.
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2009/7/18 George C Brackett gbrack...@luceatlux.com

 AliasMenu still works on my MacBook Pro OS X 10.5.7.  I would be lost
 without it.

 George


 On Jul 17, 2009, at 9:37 PM, stephen barncard wrote:

 There used to be a great product called Aliasmenu that would do that, but
 the author gave up with problems making it work from Tiger on

 What recent application have you seen that can do this?
 -
 Stephen Barncard
 San Francisco
 http://barncard.com


 2009/7/17 Sivakatirswami ka...@hindu.org


 How does one get and icon for one's application to appear on the Menu Bar
 of OS X?

 Sivakatirswami


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Re: Timed User Input

2009-07-17 Thread stephen barncard
Don't use a modal ask dialog for user input. Use a field and button on the
card instead.

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2009/7/17 Mark Smith li...@futilism.com

 Rick, how have you done your timer - a repeat loop or a 'send-in-time' ?

 Best,

 Mark


 On 17 Jul 2009, at 15:48, Rick Harrison wrote:

  I'm trying to set up a guessing game where
 the user has to race against a timer to give
 an answer before the time runs out.

 The problem is that when the user is asked
 for input, the timer stops due to the interrupt.
 Or the timer keeps running, and doesn't allow
 any user input.

 To work correctly the timer should still be
 counting down as the user is trying to
 answer the question.

 Any thoughts, ideas, or suggestions are
 greatly appreciated.

 Thanks,

 Rick


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Re: Getting a Rev App to have an icon on the Apple Menu bar

2009-07-17 Thread stephen barncard
There used to be a great product called Aliasmenu that would do that, but
the author gave up with problems making it work from Tiger on

What recent application have you seen that can do this?
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2009/7/17 Sivakatirswami ka...@hindu.org


 How does one get and icon for one's application to appear on the Menu Bar
 of OS X?

 Sivakatirswami


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Re: Webinar questions

2009-07-13 Thread stephen barncard
I've been using   IShowU HD.
http://store.shinywhitebox.com/


The webinar venture appears to have its own proprietary
capturing software integrated with the sharing.

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2009/7/13 James Hurley jhurley0...@sbcglobal.net

 A couple of questions generated by the last Webinar.

 FIrst, how does one implement vertical text?

 Second, a beginner's question on movie making. What is the basic mechanism
 by which the streaming video is created? What software does one use to make
 of movie of the actions being taken (and the voice input) while working in
 the RunRev IDE?

 Jim Hurley
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Re: Rev 4 beta status

2009-07-11 Thread stephen barncard
Hi Andre,

more stupid American questions about Brazil:
Can you dance and play the bossa nova?
Did you know Antonio Carlos Jobim and Astrud Giberto?
Are you a fan of Milton Nacimento and Bebe Giberto?  (I am..)
Do you know anybody that actually lives in Brasilla?  (candangos?)


...is that any better?

personal note: long ago I almost went to Brazil to record Milton's
solo record, produced by my friend Jim Price, but Jim had already
picked somebodyJim also produced 'Native Dancer' with Wayne
Shorter and Milton.  One of my favorite LPs.

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2009/7/11 Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com:
 Here in Brazil our image of scotland is that of cheesy actors wearing
 kilts choping the heads out of their foes with swords while the queen
 is playing and Sir Sean Connery is smiling pretending to be spanish...

 *joke*ducks*

 which is better than what the average european or american thinks
 Brazil is during travels, I had to answer the following very
 peculiar questions:
 1) Do you live in a jungle with indians? Me: Yes, My Father is the
 shaman and eat the catholic priest to aquire his powers of chocolate
 making.
 2) Do you really walk naked on the street? Me: Yes, but I am forbidden
 to do that by law because people were falling in love all the time.
 3) What about all the wild animals like lions and elephants? Me: Once
 I had to shoo a lion with a broom, he was just there on my living room
 licking my baby elephant, the lion though it was his child.
 4) How come your a software developer, do you have electricity or
 computers there? Me: no we don't, my computer is crank powered and was
 smuggled on elephants into the country.
 5)  All you are soccer stars, do you know Pelé? Me: Yes I had an
 agreement with him, he teached me how to code and I teached him how to
 play soccer.

 The list goes on forever... Even U.S. Presidents on official visits
 had the location of the country and it's capital wrong ARGH!
 during school here I had to learn the basic history of each single
 american, european and asiatic countries. During my university exams,
 I had questions on politics and geography from hundreds years past for
 countries such as France, China, India. Questions about the russian
 revolution and african cleptocracies. Now, people can't locate my
 country on a map... at least people know where Scotland is...

 On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Richmond
 Mathewsonrichmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote:
 As all readers of Diana Gabaldon's books know, scotland IS the synonym for
 the highlands :-D



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Re: Sort Command in 3.5 is adding lines to a variable

2009-07-02 Thread stephen barncard
Pasted-in NULL characters can also train wreck the GLX2 script editor.  I
use Tex-Edit  (not Textedit) for quick text cleaning.I've seen text from
a database serving Wordpress where users had pasted in NULLs with their
text, not to mention curly quotes, etc.

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San Francisco
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2009/7/2 Paul Looney supp...@ahsomme.com

 Richard,
 It has been a while...
 I went back and checked my records. The problem (probably related to the
 number of characters per line) was thousands of NULL characters in the
 variable. When I removed the NULLs, everything worked fine.
 So now I always trap for NULLs before doing a sort - and have not had a
 repeat of this problem.
 By the way, we are not sure where the NULLS came from. Our best guess is
 that it has something to do with pasting text from a word processor into one
 of our notes fields.

 I, too, would like to know the new limit. Mark?
 Paul Looney


 On Jul 2, 2009, at 12:52 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:

  Paul Looney wrote:

 I have had the opposite happen.
 On a large variable, sorting removed lines.
 Rev 3.0, OS X 10.5


 If memory serves, that was the result of a limitation of the sort command
 where it could only be used reliably on data in which no single line
 exceeded 65,535 chars.

 According to the v3.5 Engine Change Log, that was fixed in v3.5:
 http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=5932

 Unfortunately the current limit is not noted in the docs for the Sort
 command, nor in that report, so I don't know exactly what it is in the
 latest version.  But 64k of text was a lot for a single line, so whatever
 it's been raised to should be plenty for most common tasks.


 Timothy's report of the trailing blank line may be a regression error
 which had been marked as fixed in the 3.5 Engine Change Log:
 http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=7809

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Re: Sort Command in 3.5 is adding lines to a variable

2009-07-02 Thread stephen barncard
Well one could make a simple thing in a standalone

replace numToChar(0) with empty in fld x (or any container, perhaps the
clipboard)

by the way NULL is a built in constant in Rev.

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2009/7/2 Nicolas Cueto nicon...@gmail.com

 About good and simple text editors that can keep
 text clean (of null characters, in this case), Stephen
 Barncard recommended Tex-Edit but that's for Macs.

 Any similar recommendations for Windows? Or is
 Notepad sufficient?

 And please note the word simple :-)

 Thanks.

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Re: moving domain to on-rev

2009-07-01 Thread stephen barncard
You shouldn't have to ask your  ISP to change the nameservers. I haven't had
to do that for years. Your domain registrar may be, and usually is, a
different entity than your ISP.
Registrars usually offer a control panel to do such changes, and anyone with
an administrative or technical contact authorization can change it.  It's
dead-dog simple to change. Three items, copy and paste.

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2009/7/1 Claudi Cornaz claud...@fiberworld.nl

 I will now ask my isp to try again to change the nameservers, hoping it
 will work this time.

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Re: Creepy 2020

2009-07-01 Thread stephen barncard
And what's your Facebook username?

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2009/7/1 Randall Reetz rand...@randallreetz.com

 I still think it ironic that we are intolerant of governments and
 corporations when they engage in behaviors we excuse in our selves.  How
 many people go to church or get their kids in a soccer league or enroll them
 in a private school specifically to gain access to the right group of
 potential customers?  FaceBook et al are just providing to that same demand.
  Yes it is creepy... how humans act towards their friends.   Everyone
 wants the networking advantages afforded by a company that mines personal
 data.  Nobody likes to know how that data is aquired when it comes to their
 own identity.  Really creepy is the vailed astonishment expressed as the
 nessisary wizard of oz is revealed to be just what our greed demands of
 him.  The perfect reflection of us!  I live in Palo Alto, and have listened
 in on hundreds of facebook employee cafe conversations.  Souls not required.
  It is one thing to be a slimy insurance salesman... quite another to
 institutionalize and automate this most tragic of human tendancies... and to
 make a killing doing so.  The edifice that is socil networking software
 tends to depersonalize and infrastructurealize sleezyness.  Hey, everyone
 is driving drunk!, becomes, If we arent supposed to drive drunk, why is
 there a beer tap right here on the dash board?

 -Original Message-
 From: Lynn Fredricks lfredri...@proactive-intl.com
 To: 'How to use Revolution' use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
 Sent: 7/1/2009 3:14 PM
 Subject: Creepy 2020

  We seem to be assuming that Facebook is automagically digging
  into your address book, when it could just be finding you in
  reverse from people that have already shared. This would
  actually seem more efficient, since while you may not share
  your address book, somebody else that knows you probably has...

 This creepy privacy invasion thread makes me think of the various ways
 Google snaps up information - by car and of course by satelite. Maybe in a
 few years we will see robot wars between the Google Car, Yahoo Refuse
 Digger
 and Facebook Roto Rooter - all fighting each other to get the last bit of
 our private information :-)

 Best regards,

 Lynn Fredricks
 President
 Paradigma Software
 http://www.paradigmasoft.com

 Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server


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Re: Creepy 2020

2009-07-01 Thread stephen barncard
I was joking

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2009/7/1 stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com

 And what's your Facebook username?

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 San Francisco
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 2009/7/1 Randall Reetz rand...@randallreetz.com

 I still think it ironic that we are intolerant of governments and
 corporations when they engage in behaviors we excuse in our selves.  How
 many people go to church or get their kids in a soccer league or enroll them
 in a private school specifically to gain access to the right group of
 potential customers?  FaceBook et al are just providing to that same demand.
  Yes it is creepy... how humans act towards their friends.   Everyone
 wants the networking advantages afforded by a company that mines personal
 data.  Nobody likes to know how that data is aquired when it comes to their
 own identity.  Really creepy is the vailed astonishment expressed as the
 nessisary wizard of oz is revealed to be just what our greed demands of
 him.  The perfect reflection of us!  I live in Palo Alto, and have listened
 in on hundreds of facebook employee cafe conversations.  Souls not required.
  It is one thing to be a slimy insurance salesman... quite another to
 institutionalize and automate this most tragic of human tendancies... and to
 make a killing doing so.  The edifice that is socil networking software
 tends to depersonalize and infrastructurealize sleezyness.  Hey, everyone
 is driving drunk!, becomes, If we arent supposed to drive drunk, why is
 there a beer tap right here on the dash board?

 -Original Message-
 From: Lynn Fredricks lfredri...@proactive-intl.com
 To: 'How to use Revolution' use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
 Sent: 7/1/2009 3:14 PM
 Subject: Creepy 2020

  We seem to be assuming that Facebook is automagically digging
  into your address book, when it could just be finding you in
  reverse from people that have already shared. This would
  actually seem more efficient, since while you may not share
  your address book, somebody else that knows you probably has...

 This creepy privacy invasion thread makes me think of the various ways
 Google snaps up information - by car and of course by satelite. Maybe in a
 few years we will see robot wars between the Google Car, Yahoo Refuse
 Digger
 and Facebook Roto Rooter - all fighting each other to get the last bit of
 our private information :-)

 Best regards,

 Lynn Fredricks
 President
 Paradigma Software
 http://www.paradigmasoft.com

 Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server


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Re: Creepy 2020

2009-07-01 Thread stephen barncard
It all depends what one puts into it. I've reconnected with a staff of
characters from my former workplace and realized that job was one of the
best times (and the worst times too) of my life. I had shot many videos and
photos - which I was saving for my online bio - and used the excellent
gallery and video upload tools at Facebook.   Hey it's Facebook's hard drive
and their bandwidth, why not.  And the group liked it very much and wanted
more. We may have a reunion in a few months.
I didn't
know for what purpose exactly I shot the video, but it all survived
and found a place there ( and not you tube).

The comments that come
back are worth it.  And since most of the 'friends' have some kind of
connection to
one's own reality, the system works pretty well. I haven't seen any hecklers
where I hang out. A lot of attitude but it's friendly so far.



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San Francisco
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2009/7/1 Randall Reetz rand...@randallreetz.com

 And yes i have a SpaceBook account.  Some kids set up my account for me at
 a cafe.  Same goes for MyFace.  Have logged in at most twenty times...
 trying to figure it all out and to figure out why it is so intoxicating to
 so many people.  I guess if you arent social networking you are actually
 working.  That's one answer. I should start a quantum social network where
 you tweet but are limited to one bit!  0

 -Original Message-
 From: stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com
 To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
 Sent: 7/1/2009 4:53 PM
 Subject: Re: Creepy 2020

 And what's your Facebook username?

 -
 Stephen Barncard
 San Francisco
 http://barncard.com


 2009/7/1 Randall Reetz rand...@randallreetz.com

  I still think it ironic that we are intolerant of governments and
  corporations when they engage in behaviors we excuse in our selves.  How
  many people go to church or get their kids in a soccer league or enroll
 them
  in a private school specifically to gain access to the right group of
  potential customers?  FaceBook et al are just providing to that same
 demand.
   Yes it is creepy... how humans act towards their friends.   Everyone
  wants the networking advantages afforded by a company that mines
 personal
  data.  Nobody likes to know how that data is aquired when it comes to
 their
  own identity.  Really creepy is the vailed astonishment expressed as the
  nessisary wizard of oz is revealed to be just what our greed demands of
  him.  The perfect reflection of us!  I live in Palo Alto, and have
 listened
  in on hundreds of facebook employee cafe conversations.  Souls not
 required.
   It is one thing to be a slimy insurance salesman... quite another to
  institutionalize and automate this most tragic of human tendancies... and
 to
  make a killing doing so.  The edifice that is socil networking software
  tends to depersonalize and infrastructurealize sleezyness.  Hey,
 everyone
  is driving drunk!, becomes, If we arent supposed to drive drunk, why is
  there a beer tap right here on the dash board?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Lynn Fredricks lfredri...@proactive-intl.com
  To: 'How to use Revolution' use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
  Sent: 7/1/2009 3:14 PM
  Subject: Creepy 2020
 
   We seem to be assuming that Facebook is automagically digging
   into your address book, when it could just be finding you in
   reverse from people that have already shared. This would
   actually seem more efficient, since while you may not share
   your address book, somebody else that knows you probably has...
 
  This creepy privacy invasion thread makes me think of the various ways
  Google snaps up information - by car and of course by satelite. Maybe in
 a
  few years we will see robot wars between the Google Car, Yahoo Refuse
  Digger
  and Facebook Roto Rooter - all fighting each other to get the last bit of
  our private information :-)
 
  Best regards,
 
  Lynn Fredricks
  President
  Paradigma Software
  http://www.paradigmasoft.com
 
  Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server
 
 
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Re: [ON-REV] include, dbExec and other things

2009-06-30 Thread stephen barncard
yeah, I know the On-Rev documentation is a little vague -- much of what you
need to know about On-Rev special stuff  is in the On-Rev engine notes:

http://samples.on-rev.com/irev-engine-notes.txt

I haven't seen anything called dbExec -- unless you saw it someone's code
- could be a rev subroutine or a jqurery call.


The .irev or .inc files that don't have a closing ?  are used for
subroutine use only - the page doesn't 'execute' anything itself - has to be
called from another page... using  include earlier in the calling script.




009/6/30 Nicolas Cueto nicon...@gmail.com

 A bit of a ramble...

 To learn how to script irev files, I've been
 looking at members' code examples. But
 I'm getting snagged up by new terms.

 Two of my latest:dbExec and include.

 At first I searched the runrev documentation,
 but now I know they're not runrev commands --
 which I found odd, since I thought the code
 between the ?rev  and the ? that did stuff
 had to be rev-only... or in html.

 BTW, some code examples omitted the ?.
 Is that an oversight or is that ok? Why?

 So, I looked more closely at the code examples,
 goggled a bit, and now have a sense of what
 dbExec and include are and a vague notion
 of how to use them (but further light is welcome).

 Anyway, my basic question is: If it's not in
 the Rev docs, how can I learn what irev
 scripts can do? Besides, that is, the on-rev
 forum, the on-rev online docs, and of course
 bugging this list.

 Thanks.

 --
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Re: Unwanted characters from pasted-in text.

2009-06-26 Thread stephen barncard
Thanks Björnke!
that indeed is the magic incantation
thanks again
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2009/6/25 Björnke von Gierke b...@mac.com

 I'm not sure, but those could be utf-8 chars, did you try to convert from
 utf8?

 function revText theText
   return unidecode(uniencode(theText,utf8))
 end revText



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Re: [On-Rev] Photo Gallery problem

2009-06-24 Thread stephen barncard
typo?
...src='Thumbnails/  L  '/a afterttable

shouldn't that be 'after ttable?

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2009/6/24 Dom mcd...@free.fr

 Hi!
 I am running up against a problem...

 My goal:


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Unwanted characters from pasted-in text.

2009-06-24 Thread stephen barncard
I have a wordpress blog that has survived many upgrades. Some text was
entered by users by pasting text into the earlier simple Wordpress entry
fields in the early years. The text was readable and correct at the time.
I'm guessing that Wordpress changed their MySQL character encoding.
In the transition to the later
versions, the text has a lot of character errors, usually involving
'smart' quotes, apostrophes and dashes.
Also an occasional null would work its way in, and you know how rev love
nulls.

In trying to clean this up with rev, here's my brute force method:


code

put fld output2 into tBlock
replace numToChar(0) with empty in tBlock -- nulls
replace â€ù WITH quote in tBlock
replace ’ WITH ' in tBlock
replace â€a WITH ' in tBlock
replace � WITH quote in tBlock
replace “ WITH quote in tBlock
replace â€ù WITH quote in tBlock
replace – WITH - in tBlock
replace ˆ WITH - in tBlock
put tBlock into fld output

/code



Does this look familiar?


I'd be ok with this, but every time I run this with other posts, I get new
codes that aren't covered above.


Is there some kind of unicode trick that would cover everything?


Or am I stuck with this method?


thanks,


sqb

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characters pasted from word processor

2009-06-24 Thread stephen barncard
Hello Everyone,
I would like to find a recipe to recover the original character of character
strings like this:

ÂΩ

º

‘

‶


(typical text block with imbedded problem text:)

*comparison, Wally’s machine was “stock†, straight out of the catalog.
Part of this was due to the anticipated need for 4-channel Dynatrack, which
would have required 8 tracks on 1†tape. As a result, everything was
designed for ¼†through 1†operation.*


These are mostly curly quotes, punctuation stuff. They are imbedded into
otherwise plain text. Something was different on the newer implementation of
Wordpress and the data's appearance changed in Wordpress


the obvious ones I could search and replace, but I can't guess them all and
I suspect there's a way to convert these.


any ideas are welcome.

thanks in advance


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Re: Salivating . . .

2009-06-23 Thread stephen barncard
This is indeed a momentous occasion, as I have never seen such
unrestrained exuberance from Richmond before!

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2009/6/23 Richmond Mathewson richmondmathew...@gmail.com

 . . . Hurrah, Hurrah, Hurrah

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Re: ON-REV: Using Trevor's library on

2009-06-22 Thread stephen barncard
Thanks, Sarah. Cookies..

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2009/6/21 Sarah Reichelt sarah.reich...@gmail.com


 I've seen some scripts that appear to use globals but I couldn't see
 that is was really necessary. As you say, variables only seem to
 persist while the script is running, although there is no problem
 referring to the same variable in more than one ?rev ... ? block.

 I think for real persistent data, you need to store it either on the
 server as a file, or on the user's computer as a cookie, depending on
 the requirements. You have to remember that multiple people could be
 accessing the web page at the same time, so the same data may not be
 valid for all. Session variables are another possibility, but not one
 I have explored yet.

 Cheers,
 Sarah
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Re: [ANN] ETag include for On-Rev (was Re: Compare files between on-rev and local versions)

2009-06-22 Thread stephen barncard
Andre, I notice that you use the .inc suffix for on-rev includes. I know
that's the convention for PHP includes, unfortunately, that suffix will not
allow the on-rev client to read or edit the file, even though it contains
code. I'm assuming you are using your own tools for on-rev development.

I currently use the on-rev client for in situ debugging. Helps a lot. I use
coda too, but it currently doesn't format rev code (yet). It has an
intuitive css editor as well as an assisted text mode. BBEdit is good for
everything else.

This is yet another reason why I really would request the on-rev client to
allow plug-ins, some kind of API or better yet, open up the code so we can
work with it. I think what the on-rev coders have done is fantastic, but
there will always bee a need for one more thing.

?
syncing (or at least compare)
indenting
work on any text file (or at least allow .inc files as editable)
search and replace
snippet storage
?


I'm guessing that Jerry or Andre are working on some kind of alternative
editor for on-rev right now.
Where do I sign up?

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2009/6/22 Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com

 Hello Folks,
 I've just created a minimal ETag include file for On-Rev. For those not
 familiar with ETags, they are unique identifiers that are sent as HTTP
 Headers. When your file change, your ETag for that file also changes. So a
 browser or any http client may sent a web request like, give me that file
 is
 the ETag is different from this one, or if it still the same.

 For more information on ETags consult Dr. Wik E. Pedia at
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_ETag

 What my include does is set the ETag header for the file that includes it.
 So if you have a helloworld.irev file and include etag.inc then, an ETag
 http header will be set when helloworld.irev is requested, if the file
 changes, the ETag changes too.

 Another thing it does is expose an ETag function that will comput an ETag
 for a given file path.

 And there's one more thing: sometimes, you just want to know if
 helloworld.irev changed but you don't want to execute it, for this cases,
 just pass a url parameter op=etag, like helloworld.irev?op=etag this way
 the
 include will set the ETag and force the engine to exit without running any
 further. This of course just works up to the point where the etag is
 included, so include it as the first line.

 you can check the etag.inc by going to:

 http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/scriptviewer.irev?f=etag.inc

 (Karma bonus, my script viewer
 generates links for downloading compressed copies of the viewed files)

 If you're on a unix like system or any system with CURL, you can do a:

 curl -v http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/etagtest.irev

 and see the ETag header being
 sent. So if you want to compare two files, assuming it's a local and a
 remote copy, you can simply store the ETag every time you
 cache the file, then you just query for it later.

 Hope this is useful
 andre

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Re: Re-2: [ANN] ETag include for On-Rev (was Re: Compare files between on-rev and local versions)

2009-06-22 Thread stephen barncard
I gotta poke around more. My apologies.

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2009/6/22 runrev260...@m-r-d.de

 Hi Stephen,


  Andre, I notice that you use the .inc suffix for on-rev includes. I know
  that's the convention for PHP includes, unfortunately, that suffix will
 not
  allow the on-rev client to read or edit the file, even though it contains
  code. I'm assuming you are using your own tools for on-rev development.

 you can add  inc  under Text Types in preferences in the on-rev client.

 Regards,

 Matthias


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