Re: [ANN] animationEngine 3
I just use the same old anglo-saxon words, with some personal ornaments. My housemates hate it and are probably moving out because of it.I know I shouldn't do it; blood pressure and such but it's so liberating. I'd rather be cool but I can't help it sometimes. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2009/10/15 Jerry Daniels jerry.dani...@me.com What language(s) do you like to swear in? I grew up (in USA) being called a lot of names in German. Very colorful and effective. Best, Jerry Daniels Watch tRev - The Movie http://reveditor.com/trev-the-movie On Oct 15, 2009, at 1:12 PM, Malte Pfaff-Brill wrote: Thanks for the kind words all. :-) Really makes the time worthwhile. (gasp) you SWEAR while coding??? Often and passionately. It is that bad that my coworkers forced me to find a new place for the office where I will be sent to the naughty room when I code on difficult stuff. Is there an upgrade offer or is this a separate product from animationeEngine29? Upgrade is $39 for existing customers. If you bought an AE license after august 31st this year, you are entitled to a free upgrade. All the best, Malte ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] WeCode Planet meta-blog that collects posts about revolution.
If you are worried about copyright issues, I don't think it's a problem if the data are offered by the sources through RSS feeds. Nothing is 'copied'. Or is it a cosmetic/display issue ? - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2009/10/15 Dom mcd...@free.fr Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: Yes, the CSS is not pleasant, thats just me learning how to float things around. I hope to get the colors right soon. CSS are hard to master ;-) great idea... netherless, I am not very comfortable with the fact of copying _whole_ articles from other blogs what about quoting only a paragraph from the source, and adding a more... if the reader is interested? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Figuring Out XML Error?
Open XML? - oxymoron MS has seemingly done the same thing for XML what they did for SQL, html and javascript de-standardize it 'just enough' to make interchange more difficult without their blessing. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2009/10/12 Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net Dave- Monday, October 12, 2009, 1:22:56 AM, you wrote: Is this Microsoft's open xml format by the way? Yep. That it is. The bloat is MS Word namespace tags on every element. I'd be embarrassed to write something like w:p w:rsidR=00E52FAC w:rsidRPr=002C0BD1 w:rsidRDefault=00E52FAC w:rsidP=007C075C w:pPr w:autoSpaceDE w:val=0/ w:autoSpaceDN w:val=0/ w:adjustRightInd w:val=0/ w:rPrw:bCs/ w:color w:val=00/ /w:rPr /w:pPr /w:p (that's a paragraph tag with no content, apparently to provide a blank line) -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
irev page link error in pdf
It appears that if the web link has an irev extension, preview will launch the apple web site rather than an error. Nice. I have yet to see what Adobe Acrobat does. So I guess the only fix is to make an html page that immediately redirects. Cheezy, but works if you control the web space of the link. This is the other apple bug I've discovered this week; *quick look* appears to reverse left and right channels on audio files. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: irev page link error in pdf
the answer, of course is to use an .htaccess file to redirect. A wizard is right there in the ON-Rev control panel. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2009/10/10 stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com It appears that if the web link has an irev extension, preview will launch the apple web site rather than an error. Nice. I have yet to see what Adobe Acrobat does. So I guess the only fix is to make an html page that immediately redirects. Cheezy, but works if you control the web space of the link. This is the other apple bug I've discovered this week; *quick look*appears to reverse left and right channels on audio files. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: youtube splash
Fair production values and graphics but no information on why anyone should use it. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2009/10/9 Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net Hmmm... somebody been doing some viral marketing? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNETuH_YNsc -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] JavaScript editor?
Ripe for snide humor: Emacs? Aren't those the little furry creatures in one of the Star Wars movies? Oh, those. Yeah, my dad had one. He sold it years ago. sorry. I must have used it in the early 80s on my Beehive terminal but... - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2009/9/27 Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com How often do you use emacs? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Creating image from text..
Hi Jean-Pierre, I'm not sure what you are asking. do you mean do you want to represent the binary data of a jpg image as a more easily stored text string? yes I have done this. Look into Base64Encode/decode. I don't understand BA,BI,etc. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2009/9/25 Jean-Pierre Soto jean-pierre.s...@wanadoo.fr Hello, his there a way to create a great number of JPEG image from small text ( something like BA,BI,BO,BU,FA,FI,FO,FU in small 32x32 JPEG image) with Revolution. Jean-Pierre ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Book on The Art of Community
One can also assign .pdfs to always open in Preview by changing the suffix assignment in the finder. This might have the effect of Webkit using Preview for viewing PDFs in Safari, as I observe them loading really fast. THis is something that I do every time there's a OS upgrade. Acrobat Reader has a few extra features but they aren't usually worth the extra load time. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2009/9/26 Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net On Sep 26, 2009, at 9:57 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: Get it while its hot: http://www.jonobacon.org/2009/09/18/the-art-of-community-available-for-free-download/ The PDF is only just over 2MB, but you know how slow PDFs can load in browsers, especially if the Adobe Reader kicks in to do the loading. So I used the contextual menu to have it download the file, which I can then speedily view in Preview. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to create a background process
Josep said: By other way a lunch speak messages to the user, but if one message is runnig and one second message start, the first is stoped. How wait until the revspeak finish before start the next? for this part check out wait until the sound is done ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Distributing Mac apps
I'm one of those renegades that insists on moving non-apple apps into a directory named Applications Third Party at the same level as the Application Folder. The App folder is a mess when one puts more than the Apple apps in there. Inside the third party folder, I separate the apps by function, like AV,Graphics, Internet, etc. I also use directories around most of my third party apps to contain docs and serial numbers. Only a couple apps have complained. I HATE IT when a third party application *insists* on being in the 'Application Folder'. I just have too many applications.. I want to use my own organizational system. I assume Apple apps always want to be there. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2009/9/26 Joe F. jo...@mac.com I prefer the disc image with root Applications alias. It's simple and obvious. I found that a lot of apps allow you to install anywhere when they actually need to be in the Applications folder; as if the developer never considered that a user might do it otherwise. The main reasons to do it by the book are permissions and OS updates. I haven't done Snow Leopard yet but the Leopard transition was great for me, very little setup once it was installed. Also, if you want to update your app you know where everything is. Joe F. On Sep 23, 2009, at 1:00 AM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 1:00 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: Sarah Reichelt wrote: In response, someone else posted a complementary idea, having the app offering to move itself to the Applications folder if it is launched from any other folder. http://www.potionfactory.com/node/251 I recently installed an app that did that. I didn't like it, I had installed it in a different folder on purpose. Fortunately it only bugged me once about it on first launch. Perhaps a neater method would be to offer to move it only if it was being launched from the Downloads folder. Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Setting the 'Open With'
sometimes I just cruse the docs looking for commands that I've never tried and then get ideas! - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2009/9/24 Ray Horsley r...@linkit.com: Very interesting Stephen! I've never used these commands before. They might just do the trick for me. Thanks, Ray Horsley LinkIt! Software On Sep 24, 2009, at 10:41 AM, stephen barncard wrote: you could use Tar from the shell or Rev's built in zip commands. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2009/9/24 Ray Horsley r...@linkit.com: Thanks Marty. It's just slightly more complicated than that, though. In my case I've got a zip file which a script in my standalone has downloaded. I'd like to decompress it automatically from the same script but I don't know where Archive Utility is or what it's named on the end users machine. On my machine it's System/Library/Core Services/Archive Utility.app but on a friend's machine I noticed it's named BOMArchive Utility instead of Archive Utility. Any suggestions? Thanks, Ray Horsley LinkIt! Software On Sep 24, 2009, at 10:08 AM, Marty Knapp wrote: You can open a specific document with a specific application like this: launch /MyDocumentsFolder/TheDocument.doc with /Applications/MyApp.app using the path of each. and assuming the the application is capable of opening it. Marty Knapp On kind of a related note, anybody know how to set a file to open with a certain application? This is manually done with the Get Info window on the Mac but I need to do this from within a script. Thanks, Ray Horsley LinkIt! Software ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Java applets Revlets
You may be the first to try this. Revlets are still an Alpha product. The silence from the list doesn't necessarily mean 'We are ignoring you'. It means 'we don't have anything to say about it'. or 'We haven't tried this yet. The Runrev team isn't obligated to troll this list; but they occasionally drop in and comment. The On-Rev and Revlet features are still greatly under-documented. Hopefully which specific features that 'do' work and not work will be noted more clearly in future, online documentation. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2009/9/24 Jerry Balzano gjbalz...@ucsd.edu: Hi all, Although this list is usually pretty responsive to questions, I sent the email almost 48 hours ago and haven't raised a single reply. If I'm just asking foolish questions, perhaps someone could gently tell me why, and suggest what I might do (instead) to address the issue I raise. Thanks, Jerry B On Sep 22, 2009, at 2:13 PM, Jerry Balzano wrote: I hope this isn't too bizarre a request. I want a Revlet to be able to control which of several (pre-made) Java applets a user sees. How would one do this? Is it possible to embed a Java applet inside a Revlet? I was looking through previous messages to see if this question had been asked previously and I learned (a little) about a stack property called the revletParams, but I don't know how or if it would apply here. For example, would one stick the whole string applet code=org.nlogo.window.Applet archive=NetLogoLite.jar width=460 height=280 param name=DefaultModel value=Tag.nlogo /applet inside the revletParams? (And then what?) Sorry for the painfully naive nature of these questions, but this is all untrodden ground for me. Thanks, Jerry Balzano ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Setting the 'Open With'
you could use Tar from the shell or Rev's built in zip commands. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2009/9/24 Ray Horsley r...@linkit.com: Thanks Marty. It's just slightly more complicated than that, though. In my case I've got a zip file which a script in my standalone has downloaded. I'd like to decompress it automatically from the same script but I don't know where Archive Utility is or what it's named on the end users machine. On my machine it's System/Library/Core Services/Archive Utility.app but on a friend's machine I noticed it's named BOMArchive Utility instead of Archive Utility. Any suggestions? Thanks, Ray Horsley LinkIt! Software On Sep 24, 2009, at 10:08 AM, Marty Knapp wrote: You can open a specific document with a specific application like this: launch /MyDocumentsFolder/TheDocument.doc with /Applications/MyApp.app using the path of each. and assuming the the application is capable of opening it. Marty Knapp On kind of a related note, anybody know how to set a file to open with a certain application? This is manually done with the Get Info window on the Mac but I need to do this from within a script. Thanks, Ray Horsley LinkIt! Software ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ONREV] beginner - site download
Jim, I never saw the download either. One can't scrape the code off of the screen either - it's a graphic. But the examples aren't that hard to just write out. Quite frankly I think you'd be happier checking out the Troz site (Sarah). http://www.troz.net/onrev/ great stuff. All the scripts are there. All tested and works. Another fine example is John Craig's splash21 CMS. http://splash21.on-rev.com/index.irev Finally Andre has a Wordpress type blog that works well. http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/cms.irev - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2009/9/23 Jim Ault jimaultw...@yahoo.com I am getting into OnRev this week and have a question about a comment on page.. http://samples.on-rev.com/index.irev part of the instructions say 'You can also download a complete copy of this website if you would like to take it apart and look at how everything has been done.' but nothing says how to do it. Can anyone answer how to download the Samples web site? Thanks, Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] MacWindows external 1.0.0 (005)
Shao, I'm not seeing the link for that on your site. Safari 4 Firefox 3.5 - MacOS 10.5.8 0900 PST - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2009/9/23 Shao Sean shaos...@wehostmacs.com Updated the download file to include that PkgInfo file as per Klaus' bug report. -Sean ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] MacWindows external 1.0.0 (005)
yes but I was looking at the description page http://revdevelop.com/categories/Developer_Tools/Externals/ssMacWindows no file link there... it's the first thing that came up in google - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2009/9/23 Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net: stephen- Wednesday, September 23, 2009, 9:03:29 AM, you wrote: Shao, I'm not seeing the link for that on your site. ...at the top... the one that says Download... g http://shaosean.tk/ -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: I need to blink and carry on !
send in time get Dar Scott's stack that demonstrates Message Mechanics http://pages.swcp.com/dsc/revstacks.html - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2009/9/20 Francis Nugent Dixon effe...@wanadoo.fr Hi from Paris, Way back in the good old days, on a 3270 monitor, we could blink any line. Very useful ! I want to blink an error message, to bring it to the attention of the user, but I don't want to stop the execution of the current script. How would I go about this ? -Francis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: creating and/or replacing stacks
Check out the GLX Application Frameworkhttp://www.bluemangolearning.com/screensteps/examples/manuals/GLX_Application_Framework.htmlby Trevor - It includes an auto update feature and many others... - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2009/9/17 Lars Brehmer larsbreh...@mac.com Jim, Thanks for the links. I guess I didn't phrase my question very well. My standalones have always been splash screens with the actual stacks in the program folder. It's one of those stacks I want to be able to replace with the update, so this isn't new to me. It's actually figuring out how to do it that I need help with, but after a quicl browse through the links you provided, I am pretty sure I will find my answers. Thanks again. Cheers Lars Can anybody point me to a tutorial or a demonstration or anything that emplains creating or deleting or replacing stacks from a standalone? What I want to do is make a standalone that updates another standalone by replacing one of its stacks with one from the updater stack. As basic as this probably is, I haven't a clue how to do it, and all atttempts to figure it out have failed. First concept for you to realize is that a standalone is a compiled app or exe, which means once compiled, it can no longer be modified. This is kind of like an oil painting where the artist wants to go back and replace a blue color with one that is a little darker. Can't undo the painting, but you can make a new one and change the blue color. For Rev, this means go back and compile a new version of your standalone. What you can do is create a standalone that uses stacks that are not part of the standalone, then replace those stacks. There are many discussions on the list about this and the key word to look for is 'splash screen' ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: creating and/or replacing stacks
Yes it ranked right at the top. It *did* look a little strange. Thought it was a new look for the mango. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2009/9/17 Trevor DeVore li...@mangomultimedia.com Stephen, It looks like you grabbed a sample ScreenSteps manual that turned up on Google (someone else did that just a little bit a ago). The url to the main GLX Application Framework page is here: http://www.bluemangolearning.com/revolution/software/libraries/glx-application-framework/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Datagrid speed problem
Jerry's right - tRev is a non-invasive, fast, clean, mean coding machine. I use it exclusively. And the support is awesome. you should check it out. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2009/9/16 Jerry Daniels jerry.dani...@me.com Beat, If, as you said, you don't like the Rev Script editor in 3.5, you might check out tRev. It might be more to your liking. On the other hand, you might not! Good luck with your grids either way. Link about tRev below. Best, Jerry Daniels Watch tRev - The Movie http://reveditor.com/trev-the-movie ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Escaping from QT
Animated gifs are terrible for anything with much resolution. 256 colors, indexed. Animated gifs are good for logos and block images but not gradients. And they still stall in Rev if anything else is going on. Compuserve invented and owned the patents on the .gif format up until a few years ago. Early on Compuserve tried to collect on every use of the every gif. It was a major reason for the superior open source PNG format to be created. On the horizon, working today: ANIMATED PNGhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APNG this link works in Firefox, but not in Safari: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APNG(72k) I hope this gets standardized. Beautiful. Nice gradients. Mozilla's role in extending the PNG format to APNG echoes Netscapehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netscape's much earlier role in popularizing animated GIFshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_Interchange_Format#Animated_.gif . perhaps we can coerce the mother ship to include it someday... - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2009/9/16 Richmond Mathewson richmondmathew...@gmail.com I have just discovered a quick way to run up an animated GIF from an image sequence (rather than plonking every frame in place and getting w*'s (err . . . wrist) cramp doing it: Get a copy of GIMP: ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The $%$#%#$%# Rev Geometry
Thanks Sarah, I'll try this out - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev I have a plugin that I use but it is very limited compared to the Rev Geometry manager. However it works well and is easy to tweak since it creates editable scripts for you. I've just uploaded it to my web site, so you can find it at http://www.troz.net/rev/ Cheers, Sarah ___ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The $%$#%#$%# Rev Geometry
That hasn't usually worked for me. It seems to explode at random even when locked down. thanks though. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2009/9/14 Mark Stuart mfstu...@cox.net Written by stephen barncard on Sun Sep 13, 2009 - 5:21 PM CDT Does anyone know how to stop this from happening? Stephen, for each object on each card, set the Lock size and position (lockLoc) property to checked when using the Geometry manager. I've found that this keeps each object from disappearing off the card, to somewhere in never-never land. -- HTH, Mark Stuart ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 72, Issue 18 -- Solution for Problems with Snow Leopard
Isn't there a speed hit running under Rosetta? - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2009/9/13 sandr...@comcast.net I read a messarge regarding Problems with Snow Leopard: On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Till Bandi tba...@swissonline.ch wrote: I just installed snow leopard - and now I can't launch a stack with a double click anymore from the finder. I get the dialog: Unable to open stack: stack is corrupted, check for ~ backup file. If I open the same stack within runrev with the open command, everything works as expected. If I launch the stack, I get the same problem. I had the same problem, and here is the solution. You need to insert the Snow Leopard disc again and load the application Rosetta which is included separately on the disc. Once loaded, go to your Revolution application and click on it but don't open it. While it is highlighted, go to top finder menu and select the Get Information under File. On the window that opens you will see the information for the Rev application and then you check the box for use Rosetta. Once you do that it will open as it once did by double-clicking on any of your Rev. documents. Cheers, Sandy Hargrove ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Problems with snow leopard
As a long time mac user from the beginning, I've always thought the type and creator codes were VERY useful to eliminate the ambiguity of what to launch and I put down the PC method of using suffixes as being brain dead. It is sad to see the Mac OS do another thing to make it more like Windblows. I registered the codes creator BARN and document rtfd back in the early 90's. Obviously the second one Apple decided to use anyway for Textedit. (I had my own rtf format with image references imbedded.) Aren't these things still relevant? On 2009-09-13, Dave Cragg dave.cr...@lacscentre.co.uk wrote: I haven't installed Snow Leopard, so can't check this. I've read that with Snow Leopard, the Finder no longer uses creator and type codes as a way of linking files to applications. I'm guessing this might have an effect of the result of double-clicking on a file. For example, perhaps the Finder is now trying to launch the file with an older version of Rev which doesn't recognize the current stack format. Could that explain what you're seeing? Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
The $%$#%#$%# Rev Geometry
Ok I've been a Rev user since 2001, and many times I've tried to use the geometry manager and it will work for a while, then BLAM, add or change something (like add a new card) , then everything to the right gets wider - a major mess. This happens sooner or later on EVERY stack I try to use geometry. Once in a while someone will mention rev geometry on this list, and the pundits will invariably say... Geometry -- no big deal, just do it yourself - it's easy. Don't use Rev geometry. But the Rev interface has such an intuitive interface to RevGeometry, I really want to use it. If it's broken, how is it used? If it's in there, why can't I just use it? Does anyone know how to stop this from happening? Really, it was working quite well for many days... now I can't change anything on the stack without this thing falling apart. I didn't change the size of anything, just tried to add a new card. If I have to go commando with geometry, does anyone have a guide? thanks sqb - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The $%$#%#$%# Rev Geometry
2009/9/13 Bill Vlahos bvla...@mac.com Stephen, I've struggled with and successfully used Geometry Manager and agree with you that the UI is very inviting. There are two tricks I've found for making it work better. 1. If in doubt click Remove All at the Geometry UI setting and reset it. of course. 2. If you are using it in comparison with another object, rather than the card dimensions, make sure the object is a low level object. I've found that you will get strange results this isn't done. Not sure what you mean by 'lower level object. How can I make the desired object relate to the stack/card size? Also will groups have problems or do they usually stay together ( avoiding any geometry inside ) ? Do I have to assure that the 'resizestack' event reaches each object? I sure wish Rev would fix the Geometry Manager. It is a stumbling block for most new users. Well, Im not new, and it's definitely a stumbling block for me. Thanks Bill. Bill Vlahos ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Custom Widget Technique Question
If you haven't seen Scott Rossi's work, you should. He's created some amazing controls. Buy or use for inspiration. http://www.tactilemedia.com/ click software; click TMGauge - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2009/9/12 Len Morgan len-mor...@crcom.net I'm working on a new project and I'd like some advice on how to create custom controls to use on a graphical process display. This will display a water pipeline system with all it's tanks, pipe, valves, flow/pressure meters etc. One of the items I have to display is a water tank and I need to display how much water is in it as both a number and a graphical representation of the water level. I've got the gist of the drawing managed but I'm going to have to have several of these and I don't want to hand create them every time so I'm looking to make a water tank custom control. I need to put it somewhere, send it a current level which would update the numeric display and set the water level. I'd also like to size them so I could have big ones and small ones. That's a long introduction to my actual question. I know I can make a group of the various parts and script the updating and possibly sizing using behavior scripts but once I've created it, where to I put it? Do I create a stack with this group on it and then clone it where I need it? Do I copy and paste (via script)? I can't add it to the Rev graphic object pallet like the datagrid is now. This is not the only custom control I'm going to need so I'm looking for a generic way to handle this kind of thing. In the end, the program will not only have a display of our pipeline but I'd also like to have a separate design program to create the system diagrams in case any other pipelines want to use the program. len morgan ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Recover Files From OS X User Account
start up using an install dvdyou can change the root password from the disc - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2009/9/11 Ian Wood revl...@azurevision.co.uk I don't think you can do that if the drive includes an OS X install. Ian On 11 Sep 2009, at 17:27, Robert Brenstein wrote: Have you tried setting of the drive to ignore permissions, when having it connected as external drive? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How Do I Exit an iRev Script
exit to top - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2009/9/8 Gregory Lypny gregory.ly...@videotron.ca Hello everyone, What is the iRev equivalent of exit mouseUp? Gregory ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev Dbase OBDC with 4thDimension
Sorry for the misinformation. It's been a long time since I worked with 4d (93?) - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2009/9/7 Malte Pfaff-Brill revolut...@derbrill.de Hi Sivakatirswami, I am currently working on a project, where 4d and Rev share the same database. The database in this case is mySQL though, so the connection is pretty straight forward. As 4d, (and Rev) can work with a multitude of databases, it would be best to ask the fellows, which db is working under the hood. All the best, Malte ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The Conference. RE switch
I really like to use switch for any logic more than a single if-then-else. Switch statements, due to their fall-through and default behaviors, can handle more logic *conditions* than if-then switch tInput case 0 case 1 put tInput after tOut case 2 put tInput after tOut case 3 put tInput after tOut break case 4 put tInput after tOut case 5 put tInput after tOut break default put tInput after tOut end switch tInput - tOut 0== 123 1== 123 2== 23 3== 3 4== 45 5== 5 6== 6 7== 7 ... when one gets used to the structure of a switch statement, it really looks like it functions, and it's quite simple. Same thing with arrays. All programming is simple, once one can break it down as smaller ideas put together as a machine. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2009/9/5 Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net On Sep 5, 2009, at 12:03 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: Using SWITCH statements, Although switch statements can be useful, you don't have to use them. So your old code could stay as it is, and you would just use switch in the future if it's appropriate. You can often get away without an if or a switch. Like with your example: do item Goofy of something-or-other,something-more-foolish ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revMedia is FREE for everyone . . .
Free Revmedia is still in pre-release. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2009/9/5 Richmond Mathewson richmondmathew...@gmail.com Unless you end up here: http://www.runrev.com/products/product-comparison/editions/ where you can still BUY revMedia for £25 instead of here: http://revmedia.runrev.com/revMedia where it is completely FREE something not quite right. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: On-Rev Client Update?
I *THOUGHT* the client was exactly the samelooked at it, used it, but I didn't look at the version #. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2009/9/4 Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net On Sep 4, 2009, at 3:39 PM, Joe F. wrote: I got an email a week ago saying the engine and client had been updated, but upon download the same 0.1.4 version of the client is what I get. Same thing happened for me. I told them that it was the same old version. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Line Breaks Dropped on Importing Unicode Text
Why are you replacing the CRs with LFs? doesn't the engine's Unicode functions handle line endings? - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2009/9/4 Sivakatirswami ka...@hindu.org Aloha, Joe: I'm not quite sure how your suggestion relates to the problem of endlines. The unicode.txt file I have is being read OK in Pages on the mac. It also loads just fine in Rev, with the exception of the line breaks I'm not sure where the uniencode/unidecode could be used to solve the line break issue. Sivakatirswami ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Music Notes, New Instruments Sound Channel Preview
and quicktime is installed in your Windows system? - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2009/9/4 Kenji Kojima in...@kenjikojima.com Hi, I tried to make a PlayMIDI revlet. http://www.kenjikojima.com/revlet/PlayMIDI/ It's based on HyperTalk's PLAY command http://www.kenjikojima.com/revlet/PlayMIDI/pmd.html I can play it on MacOS. I have two problems. 1) I cannot show a QuickTime controller on MacOS and Windows. only a border appears. 2) I made a temporary MIID file into specialfolderpath(temporary). and set the filename of player playMidi to (specialfolderpath(temporary) /playPmdTemp.mid) It works on MacOS, but not on Windows. Thanks, -- Kenji Kojima http://www.kenjikojima.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Request to Ben Beaumont from remote attendee
Hi Ben, Could you please post the URL for the stack for D1-T2-S8: Advanced Multimedia. There is a file shown, advanceed-multimedia.zip, however it's the stack for the Graphic Effects topic of an earlier presentation. thanks sqb - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: faxing from a rev stack?
You might look at Page Sender...I bought a copy several years ago for occasional faxes before Apple started to include it in the OS. Good company. http://www.smileonmymac.com/PageSender/index.html NEED A SCRIPTABLE SOLUTION FOR FAXING INVOICES FROM FILEMAKER PRO? PageSender is fully AppleScriptable and includes just such an example that is customizable to your needs. $40, free trial - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2009/9/3 Peter Brigham MD pmb...@gmail.com I'm interested in building a fax capability into one of my stack systems. I'm presuming that I'll need to call on a Mac fax application. Anyone know which app would be best to use and how to call on it it to fax by script from within rev? MacBook, OSX 10.5.8, Rev Studio 3.5.0-gm-2, build 870 -- Peter Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: On-Rev and Daylight Savings Time
Actually google has a time-thingie on the 'home page' - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2009/8/31 Jim Ault jimaultw...@yahoo.com Since you will have a functioning internet connection, the quick answer would be to ping one of the many free time servers out there. Google search and choose the one you like. Jim Ault Las Vegas On Aug 31, 2009, at 2:58 PM, Gregory Lypny wrote: Hello everyone, How can I handle daylight savings time in my On-Rev code? We're currently in DST in Montreal. When I type put the long time in Revolution's message box, I get the correct time as 5:52:13 PM but when I ask for the long time in an On-Rev handler I get 4:52:13 PM which is standard time. Getting the correct local time, at least within a half hour, is critical because it is being used to determine the start and end of an online experiment, and I can't have subject submitting form data outside those times. Much obliged, Gregory P.S. I'm using a Mac. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Jim Ault jimaultw...@yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Who still uses a Mac PPC?
My 'main' machine is currently the 2.5 dual G5 with two 23 Cinema displays, as it's very beneficial to have a great deal of real estate for programming and my little MacBook pro can only do 1 extra monitor. I'm stuck with the G5 for the time being as I have maxxed out the Pro Tools original PCI bus hardware with the last PPC revision of PT 8. The cards are so damn expensive to upgrade to a modern bus scheme that it's not really worth it. I have two g4s, an early 500mhz from 1999, and a newer, 'Silver Door' model. Both were my previous Pro Tools machines. My son's 1999 Cube is downstairs, non-functioning now but I have the parts to restore it. My daughter's Purple DV edition iMac is also downstairs, awaiting repair. My garage is a Mac graveyard with a representative of almost every type of Mac ever made. I fear if I send them away as 'electronic waste' that they will end up in a far off place poisoning people with toxics as they try and melt off the scrap gold of the motherboards and get personal information from people's hard drives that they didn't even bother to secure-erase. I hate throwing away these oldest machines but they are pretty much useless. Yes, they can be hooked up to 10-Base T networks,but the browsers and internet software is not going to work that well with today's java-powered net. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/8/26 Richmond Mathewson richmondmathew...@gmail.com: With the advent of Mac OS 10.6; an Intel processor only OS I am interested to see who is still depending on Mac PPC computers (G3,G4,G5) to get their work done. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Determine last character of a variable
put char 1 to -1 of tdata into tsubstring - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/8/26 Warren Kuhl warrenk...@gmail.com: This is probably a very stupid question.. I am trying to extract a substring from a variable and am unsure how to determine the last character... I tried... put char 1 to last character of tdata into tsubstring ...but this fails. Thanks for any help! Warren ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Determine last character of a variable
Also good for whitespace removal in some cases... put word 1 to -1 of whatever into tOutput - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/8/26 Warren Kuhl warrenk...@gmail.com: Phil/Stephen, Thanks for your help! I never understood what the -1 meant when dealing with characters. Appreciate your quick responses! Warren On 8/26/09, Phil Davis rev...@pdslabs.net wrote: Try char 1 to -1 of tdata. char -1 is the last char char -2 is the next-to-last char and so on. Phil Davis Warren Kuhl wrote: This is probably a very stupid question.. I am trying to extract a substring from a variable and am unsure how to determine the last character... I tried... put char 1 to last character of tdata into tsubstring ...but this fails. Thanks for any help! Warren ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Phil Davis PDS Labs Professional Software Development http://pdslabs.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Who still uses a Mac PPC?
OS9? - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/8/26 dunb...@aol.com: Twenty PPC's, G3-G5. Guess what most of them run. Craig Newman ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Who still uses a Mac PPC?
here's the official site for sheepshaver - intel / ppc http://sheepshaver.cebix.net/ - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/8/26 George C Brackett gbrack...@luceatlux.com: I'm quite different from all you folks in the way of hardware, it seems: just one 3 year-old MacBook Pro Intel Duo. But I recently discovered a way to run OS 9 on my 'book, and thereby recovered the ability to run a bunch of my older educational software. What a pleasure to see 'em again! For the software that has made my day, see http://hotfilms.org/non-windows/sheepshaver-mac-os-9-classic-intel-13879.html. George On Aug 26, 2009, at 1:06 PM, Judy Perry wrote: Sounds like my house. I have: *Dual G4 tower *original iMac *2nd gen (Sapphire?) iMac (this one actually works) *G4 Cube *G4 iMac (well, two actually, but I'm parts-harvesting to make one fully-functional FrankenBook). The Cube's slot-loading drive has been replaced twice to no avail, so I'l be prowling for some sort of solution. Sapphire iMac is used for email and playing the online game Escape Velocity by the kiddies, who will also get the FrankenBook when it's done. I want the old original iMac for HC and a Mac OS 9-only graphics program and I'm not certain what to do with the old tower. Oh, and I have a PM 7100 too ;-) No idea whether that one even boots. Judy On Wed, 26 Aug 2009, stephen barncard wrote: I have two g4s, an early 500mhz from 1999, and a newer, 'Silver Door' model. Both were my previous Pro Tools machines. My son's 1999 Cube is downstairs, non-functioning now but I have the parts to restore it. My daughter's Purple DV edition iMac is also downstairs, awaiting repair. My garage is a Mac graveyard with a representative of almost every type of Mac ever made. I fear if I send them away as 'electronic waste' that they will end up in a far off place poisoning people with toxics as they try and melt off the scrap gold of the motherboards and get personal information from people's hard drives that they didn't even bother to secure-erase. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Who still uses a Mac PPC?
The rom: Isn't that a copyright violation? - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/8/26 George C Brackett gbrack...@luceatlux.com: Correct. But the URL I provided gives you a complete installation, including PPC ROM. You just install the package, run the app, and voila: OS 9 boots into a window. George On Aug 26, 2009, at 4:25 PM, stephen barncard wrote: here's the official site for sheepshaver - intel / ppc http://sheepshaver.cebix.net/ - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/8/26 George C Brackett gbrack...@luceatlux.com: I'm quite different from all you folks in the way of hardware, it seems: just one 3 year-old MacBook Pro Intel Duo. But I recently discovered a way to run OS 9 on my 'book, and thereby recovered the ability to run a bunch of my older educational software. What a pleasure to see 'em again! For the software that has made my day, see http://hotfilms.org/non-windows/sheepshaver-mac-os-9-classic-intel-13879.html. George On Aug 26, 2009, at 1:06 PM, Judy Perry wrote: Sounds like my house. I have: *Dual G4 tower *original iMac *2nd gen (Sapphire?) iMac (this one actually works) *G4 Cube *G4 iMac (well, two actually, but I'm parts-harvesting to make one fully-functional FrankenBook). The Cube's slot-loading drive has been replaced twice to no avail, so I'l be prowling for some sort of solution. Sapphire iMac is used for email and playing the online game Escape Velocity by the kiddies, who will also get the FrankenBook when it's done. I want the old original iMac for HC and a Mac OS 9-only graphics program and I'm not certain what to do with the old tower. Oh, and I have a PM 7100 too ;-) No idea whether that one even boots. Judy On Wed, 26 Aug 2009, stephen barncard wrote: I have two g4s, an early 500mhz from 1999, and a newer, 'Silver Door' model. Both were my previous Pro Tools machines. My son's 1999 Cube is downstairs, non-functioning now but I have the parts to restore it. My daughter's Purple DV edition iMac is also downstairs, awaiting repair. My garage is a Mac graveyard with a representative of almost every type of Mac ever made. I fear if I send them away as 'electronic waste' that they will end up in a far off place poisoning people with toxics as they try and melt off the scrap gold of the motherboards and get personal information from people's hard drives that they didn't even bother to secure-erase. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Who still uses a Mac PPC?
They finally got it right with 9.2.2 - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/8/26 dunb...@aol.com Yep. My favorite OS. In a message dated 8/26/09 4:22:42 PM, stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com writes: OS9? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Change font color of script editor?
Jerry Daniel's tRev allows chalkboard formatting, easy on the eyes.(and a lot of other features... not to mention a great editor...!) - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/8/25 Nicolas Cueto nicon...@gmail.com: Mathias, It's not possible in Rev. Here's what I've done instead, but be advised that it's tricky and may have unknow side-effects -- in my own case, two I've found are the flashing insertion point is not visible against a black background, and the Help Document font colors will require tweaking. In Preferences, set background color to black (actually, a dark grey is better, if you want to see the flashing insertion point) and check-on Revolution UI Elements appear in lists of stacks. Next, open the Script Editor (for any object). Open the Application Browser to find listed revNewScriptEditor (not revNewScriptEditor 1 etc); click its card 1 to show the stack. Do a Search on the revNewScriptEditor stack for the first line of this handler: command seColorizationLoadScheme pScheme, @pPreferencesArray In that handler, look for 'case default', where you'll see lines like this: group commands none 255,255,0 The none refers to a font style (none, italic, bold -- but I'm not sure if those are the exact terms), and the set of numbers is the RGB color code. Play around with those number sets till you find a combination you like. And then save the stack. Again, though, this type of modification is not the usual thing to do with Rev. In fact, before making changes to the color codes, make a backup copy of the scripts you change in case you want to revert to things as they were. -- Nicolas Cueto ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Syllabic division of words
Good ideas. We're a bunch of working stiffs here; I'm sure we can do it for the right hourly. You have the pick of the best of us here on this list.If you've got the funding, Im ready to go. Not afraid at all. We'll need a little while. Bill Atkinson was well funded and supported and was fortunate to work in a think tank, and with a company that gave him a lot of rope. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/8/21 Randall Reetz rand...@randallreetz.com What would it take to scare a bunch of computers jockeys? Not much. Innovation? You don't get on top of everest in one leap. And you don't wait around for miracles if you want to move up a hill. Nobody is asking for perfection or completion here. Just some baby steps. Phonemic and phrase chunking isn't exactly rocket science. But it is if you expect it to be pulled of at the scale of user level scripting. Hierarchical thesaurus semantic chains would be a fairly simple addition as well. Oh well. I have been well whipped for speaking out for what WILL matter. God forbid we go there first. Scared, controlling, and mean spirited. That is exactly what I have come to expect of geeks. Sad. -Original Message- From: J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 6:51 PM To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: Syllabic division of words Randall Reetz wrote: How much better my meaning abstractions would be if I had access to more info than which strings sat between space characters. ... What would be as revolutionary today as hypercard was twenty some years ago? What you're asking for is a whole field in itself, not a goal for a development environment. I know someone who has been working on computer AI for 10 or 15 years, trying to parse natural language into meaning, using xtalk as far back as HyperCard. This isn't a detour I want RR to take. But you could. Write it yourself. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Line wrapping
It's better for one to do one's own wrapping. for instance put field myField of cd myCard of stack myStack into field myField2 of cd nextCard of stack otherStack is a horrible jumble of garbage to the eyes, but put\ field myField \ of cd myCard \ of stack myStack \ into field myField2 \ of cd nextCard \ of stack otherStack makes a lot of sense. Automatic wrapping can't do that. And it's easier to edit the references. And the compiler and indenter both are happy with it. And one can make the edit window narrower. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/8/17 dunb...@aol.com Mark. In an earlier Rev? So the line wrap automatically added a \ at compile time? That reallyt would be useful. Craig In a message dated 8/17/09 4:40:50 PM, m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com writes: Hi Craig, It was implemented before and I used it a lot. That made it unnecessary to use line break chars. Hence my frustrations now. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Text number conversion
the x is just to show that it's a HEX 16 bit number just do a baseconvert on the 7B66 part. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/8/17 Len Morgan len-mor...@crcom.net I'm talking to a microprocessor device using sockets and it returns a string like the following: 0,0x7BCC The first item is a status code and the number after the comma is the hex value expressed as ASCII characters. It will always be 4 digits. I can't seem to convert this into a number (using baseConvert). Is there some conversion command that I can't find? I need a number because I'm after just one or two bits in that number and I can't use bitAnd unless I've got a number to work with. len morgan ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Text number conversion
put baseConvert(7B66,16,10) 31590 - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/8/17 stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com the x is just to show that it's a HEX 16 bit number just do a baseconvert on the 7B66 part. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/8/17 Len Morgan len-mor...@crcom.net I'm talking to a microprocessor device using sockets and it returns a string like the following: 0,0x7BCC The first item is a status code and the number after the comma is the hex value expressed as ASCII characters. It will always be 4 digits. I can't seem to convert this into a number (using baseConvert). Is there some conversion command that I can't find? I need a number because I'm after just one or two bits in that number and I can't use bitAnd unless I've got a number to work with. len morgan ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Line wrapping
Somehow the mailer put spaces between each line of code. Obviously that won't compile but it does look right in the editors. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/8/17 Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com stephen barncard wrote: It's better for one to do one's own wrapping. for instance put field myField of cd myCard of stack myStack into field myField2 of cd nextCard of stack otherStack is a horrible jumble of garbage to the eyes, but put\ field myField \ of cd myCard \ of stack myStack \ into field myField2 \ of cd nextCard \ of stack otherStack makes a lot of sense. Automatic wrapping can't do that. And it's easier to edit the references. And the compiler and indenter both are happy with it. And one can make the edit window narrower. A good point, well illustrated. Another benefit of adding line wraps manually is that it requires you to read the code at least well enough to find usful line breaks, sometimes a useful task when inheriting a code base. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Revolution training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: lineoffset doesn't find empty lines
find all double CRs? if CR is your line delimiter. An empty line would always have a second line delimiter like itself immediately afterward. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/8/16 Brian Yennie bri...@qldlearning.com I would think that technically, it should work with wholeMatches = true. Otherwise, with wholeMatches = false, it should return nothing. I based this on consistency with the normal string logic that: empty = empty (TRUE) empty contains empty (FALSE) With that said, it sounds like lineOffset isn't equipped to deal with this. Maybe you could use something like: offset( (the lineDelimiter)(thelineDelimiter) ) ? Hi I was trying to find an empty line in some text, and thought that lineoffset would be perfect for that. however, it seems to not work with the search-string being . I also thought this used to work (though i'm not totally sure, and haven't checked). So.. bug or not? thanks björnke -- official ChatRev page: http://bjoernke.com?target=chatrev Chat with other RunRev developers: go stack URL http://bjoernke.com/chatrev/chatrev1.3b3.rev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: onRev Question About Making a Log-in Page
check SPLASH21's site. A fantastic CMS written mostly in rev with help by javascript. You can download all the source code.This will show you how it's done by an experienced web developer. http://splash21.on-rev.com/ - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/8/13 Petrides, M.D. Marian mpetri...@earthlink.net I certainly would find this helpful, too. TIA. On Aug 13, 2009, at 7:09 PM, Gregory Lypny wrote: Hello everyone, Curious to know whether there are any examples of an onRev log-in page, that is, where the server remembers the visitor during their session, that I might learn from. I was thinking of concocting with Rev to pass tokens, but it would be nice to see a number of approaches. Regards, Gregory ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Importing gMail?
It's easy to make a spaminator in Rev, but a good email list program should have features like list management, user authentication and unsubscribe, and bounced email management. Look at the features in the most popular mail list server, Mailman, which indeed is the software that manages the Rev lists. Most ISPs offer it for free. 'Several Hundred' recipients sounds like a lot of users to handle without those features. It looks like you're trying to do a survey. Perhaps there's a better way than simple email responses. If you have on-rev you could make a form that collects response and allows only one vote per IP. It could keep the tally in a simple text file. Not idiot proof but fine for a small group. You should be able to do the same thing using the plugin. And yes, you could make a thing that gathers emails, but it would have to allow 1 vote per email, and write some kind of form to work inside the email. A lot more trouble, IMHO than making a simple web page. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/8/13 James Hurley jhurley0...@sbcglobal.net I'm thinking of sending a query (kind of an open ended survey) via gMail to members of my neighborhood association. I'm expecting a couple hundred replies. Is there some way to import the responses into Rev programatically for subsequent processing? I've come to believe that there is nothing that members of this list cannot do. Is this a bridge too far? Jim Hurley ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
printing reduced graphics
Hi Gang, I've had this personal app in Rev that creates CD labels from Waveburner rundown files. This was originally an HC stack but I converted to Runrev years ago and made many improvements. One feature was to include image controls on the card to print those images. When I started using this app, I used .pct images because they were uncompressed and would scale nicely and print with more resolution when reduced. Unfortunately, PICT files are now not encouraged and are not cross platform. So I went to .png graphics, which can do transparency, it seemed like a good fit and seemed to work as well in earlier versions of Rev. However, in the recent versions (3.0) they print terribly, are all fuzzy. What happened? Is there some antialiasing that should be turned off or what? My graphics look like dirt again. I looked at some earlier printings and they looked great. I'm using *print card* using the dialogs. Hide a few control groups, 'take' the print snapshot, restore the groups. It's a standalone on Mac OS 10.5.7 sqb - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: printing reduced graphics
They are resized with a slider ... so I need to set the quality to best every time I change the image size? Is the default set to bad normally? - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/8/10 Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com Recently, stephen barncard wrote: I've had this personal app in Rev that creates CD labels from Waveburner rundown files. This was originally an HC stack but I converted to Runrev years ago and made many improvements. One feature was to include image controls on the card to print those images. When I started using this app, I used .pct images because they were uncompressed and would scale nicely and print with more resolution when reduced. Unfortunately, PICT files are now not encouraged and are not cross platform. So I went to .png graphics, which can do transparency, it seemed like a good fit and seemed to work as well in earlier versions of Rev. However, in the recent versions (3.0) they print terribly, are all fuzzy. What happened? Is there some antialiasing that should be turned off or what? My graphics look like dirt again. I looked at some earlier printings and they looked great. If you're resizing the images, did you try setting the resizeQuality of the images to best? Regards, Scott Rossi ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] tRev Feature Friday Videos!
Nicolas, dictonary.com: FLAME Computer Slang. an *angry*, *critical*, or *disparaging* electronic message, as an e-mail or newsgroup post. Sorry but it was a flame - and then you came back and did it again. All I know is that I winced when I saw that. Dissing a third party tool without allowing the developer to respond and allowing him to help you is not constructive. This is a friendly list. Remember we're all developers in the same boat here, these words go far and wide around the world (and sit there forever) and it doesn't take much to turn a potential customer off of making a purchasing discussion. It could happen to you. The golden rule, Karma, etc is at play here. As far as Posterous, it's the response system that Jerry has chosen for this product and it works quite well, and I've been subscribed for over a year, and never gotten a single spam message or promo through or by them. How do I know that? Because I routinely make up an email alias for things I sign up for. This provides two things: I can see who's spamming me, and a 'quick disconnect' from the offending site if needed. I have over 50 email addresses for this purpose. Once one signs up, one is good for any number of blogs that one desires. Subscribe to other blogs, start your own. Most ISPs will allow a number of email addresses or aliases. Finally, google mail does such a good job of filtering that the spammers will probably give up soon. It's that good. I think Jerry has said what has to be said, and it's a master class in how to treat customers. I hope your future customers can look forward to the same calm, cool, response. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/8/8 Nicolas Cueto nicon...@gmail.com Defense shields coming up... Let's be clear -- I was not flaming or bashing Jerry's work at all. Why else, as Brian observed, would I return each time for more punishment? Cause the whole concept of Jerry's work, as frustrating as the software might be, is the way the Rev ide should ideally work. Anyway, thank you for the rev-editor website ref, but I already knew about it. Why am I posting here then? Well, it is not clear on the rev-editor page how to post a comment. Tried the login area, but just a spiel there about joining something called Posterous (Sign up is a snap, and lets you customize and edit your posterous.). So, not wanting to hand out my email address to a Posterous, and, just as importantly, given that others here were already talking about tRev (Sarah, I would've purchased tRev eventually, cause I do like Jerry's work), I took the tacit go-ahead and posted here. Anyway. -- Nicolas Cueto ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: libURL HTTP downloading
Perhaps Trevor could chime in here... he has a upgraded version of libURL that is used in his GLX Application Framework, however I don't know if it will work outside his environment or if it can solve your problem, but it's worth checking out. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/8/8 Phil Davis rev...@pdslabs.net I assume that, when using Rev's libURL-based HTTP downloading, errors are more likely to occur when downloading many smaller files than when downloading a few larger ones. Statistically this makes sense, but can anyone speak to this from their experience? The many small files scenario I'm talking about is a few hundred files in a single download sequence, with most files in the under-1mb category except for a few .mov files that are typically 5 to 70mb each. I'm trying to decide if it's worth the effort to add server-side scripting that zips the smaller files into larger clumps before downloading. Thanks for your feedback! I'm using libUrlVersion 1.1.6. -- Phil Davis PDS Labs Professional Software Development http://pdslabs.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Project Canvas!
They can try, but it's still Realbasic underneath.. I wonder if Realbasic has script limits... - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/8/7 Devin Asay devin_a...@byu.edu On Aug 7, 2009, at 11:26 AM, jim sims wrote: Hmmm... just got this email. Kinda. sorta. sounds like a Revlet thang. A quick peak at the company's web site reveals this: All Koingo Software titles are proudly developed using REALbasic, and the comprehensive plugin set from Monkeybread Software. So it looks like they're building a Hyper-Cardy interface on top of REALbasic. Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Project Canvas!
perhaps not if they made their own interpreter/compiler/syntax. But wouldn't that abstraction be pretty slow,then? - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/8/7 Ian Wood revl...@azurevision.co.uk On 7 Aug 2009, at 18:57, Devin Asay wrote: So it looks like they're building a Hyper-Cardy interface on top of REALbasic. Wouldn't that be against the REALbasic EULA, assuming it's similar to the Runrev one? Ian ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] tRev Feature Friday Videos!
I'm sorry you have problems. try this first http://www.revmentor.com/ Or email Jerry directly. He supports they who ask, but doesn't monitor this list 24/7. You can find his email in one of his previous posts in this thread. A great feature of tRev is that it's just Jerry, no corporate layers or phone trees. He's always quick to support his products. One thing I did was to completely remove GLX2 components from my plugins. Not needed. I have had 0 problems with tRev. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/8/7 Nicolas Cueto nicon...@gmail.com I just bought tRev an hour ago, and already I am frustrated with and by it. (As I have been with GLX2, and the GLX before that...) I tried to find on the tRev site some forum or mailing list for it, but no luck. If there is one, how do I join? If there isn't, how do I ask for help with tRev? (Sorry for bothering the list.) -- Nicolas Cueto ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] tRev Feature Friday LIVE!
so in other words, we don't sign up in advance, it's first come first served for the webinarright? - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/8/6 Jerry Daniels jerry.dani...@me.com Fellow Scripters, We are hosting another Feature Friday for tRev, the new socket-based script editor that lives outside Revolution's IDE. Other than a few minor installation glitches, we have experienced unparalleled stability with the product running and editing. Over the last week, we have added some significant features. I'll be showing them LIVE at a webinar on Friday, Aug 7. Be forewarned: we have only 15 slots open for tRev Feature Friday LIVE! tRev will have three new features and one of them is...BIG. At 10:00 AM CDT/US we'll be releasing the following: - A new version of the application for download - New components available via tRev's updater At 10:00 AM CDT/US we'll be hosting: - A live webinar where tRev's developer walks you through the new features - A video afterwards for those who couldn't get into the webinar Click the link at the bottom to attend Feature Friday and/or find out more about tRev. Best, Jerry Daniels tRev Feature Friday: http://reveditor.com/trev-feature-friday-aug-7-will-be-live ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message path and standalones
The 'splash screen method' is indeed a wonderful feature of Runrev, especially in a Macintosh standalone. And yes 'start using' works fine in a standalone. But the path strategy is different for a standalone than working in the IDE. The paths have to be specified in relation to the stack engine, not the IDE engines and externals in their normal places on your drive. I won't run down the exact sequence of how to do it, but a couple of clues: use the 'effective filename of this stack' to get your standalones' location (from within the running standalone code) and set the location of the stacks to include relative to that. Relative addressing works. ALSO remember you can open up the .app package and WORK DIRECTLY with those stacks in the IDE, You don't have to rebuild the standalone each time, unless you add externals or need to add features from a newer version of Runrev that wasn't there before. Not only can you edit, compile and run, you can also FIX stuff. And you can leave the IDE idling while you test in the standalone. It's the speediest, easiest way to work for me at least... - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/8/3 François Chaplais francois.chapl...@mines-paristech.fr I am currently trying to compile my stack(s) into MacOS X standalones. This is rev studio 3.5 gm2. I am trying to use the Splash page inplementation for the standalone. I am looking for confirmation and, if possible explanation for the following facts a) start using stack etc... does not seem to work in a standalone, i.e. handlers that should be in the extended message path are not executed. I can reproduce that on an elementary stack. b) send (message etc...) to the proper object works c) handlers which are not in the message path in the are not detected in the IDE at compile time, but only at runtime. Wouldn't it be nice if this could be detected at compile time? Finally, I have not tried behaviors and I would be glad if I could get some info on their behavior, so to speak, in a standalone with multiple stacks. cheers from Paris François ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Stacks published on the Web
Alejandro!!! awesome work sqb - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/7/31 Alejandro Tejada capellan2...@yahoo.com Hi all, Visit the following pages with 3 stacks saved for web: http://aulasdigitales.net/test01.html http://aulasdigitales.net/test02.html http://aulasdigitales.net/test03.html These pages will be available until Sunday. Have a nice weekend! al Visit my site: http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Is there a comfortable way the print scripts?
You could write a script to print it in columns, but wouldn't your code wrap in the columns? Seems like that would be harder to read. My advice: Get a bigger screen and don't print it out at all! save a tree. Sometimes I print out a few lines I need to notate but I think most of us try to keep the paper waste down if possible. sorry if this sounds arrogant. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/7/31 Reinhold Venzl-Schubert r.venzl-schub...@macbay.de: Hi! I like the study my script comfortable in the arm chair. When I print it directly with Rev, I need a lot of paper. Therefore I copy it into a texteditor and print it with two columns on a sheet. Is there any economical way in Rev? Thanks Reinhold ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Two new features for tRev - Video
and tRev's a mean, lean coding machine.. nice work Jerry. I think I can move over from GLX2 now. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/7/31 Jerry Daniels jerry.dani...@me.com One and all, Today is a Feature Friday on the tRev site (link below). There's a video and a new version for registered users. Enjoy! Jerry Daniels Check out our Feature Friday video http://reveditor.com/feature-friday-two-new-features ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Is there a future for CentOS or systems to run on your web server
Isn't that what the CENTOS people were trying to do on their site, to get everyone to calm down? Speculation could kill a good product. A warning like that to possibly non-technical people could elicit panic. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/7/31 Judy Perry jper...@ecs.fullerton.edu Our department has been using CentOS (which is what I'm logged into at the moment) for our departmental server for at least a year now with no problems that I've heard of. The news about the head going Away WithOut Leave is disconcerting, as my neighbor's employer, a pretty good sized monthly membership services company, is probably going to be switching over to Cent OS... better warn her I guess. Judy ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Is there a future for CentOS or systems to run on your web server
Well by saying 'warned' you already put a spin on something that may not be that big a deal. The only problem is with the website domain name, really I've already stuck my nose in too far... never mind - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/7/31 Judy Perry jper...@ecs.fullerton.edu Are you saying that you wouldn't want to be warned? Judy On Fri, 31 Jul 2009, stephen barncard wrote: Isn't that what the CENTOS people were trying to do on their site, to get everyone to calm down? Speculation could kill a good product. A warning like that to possibly non-technical people could elicit panic. 2009/7/31 Judy Perry jper...@ecs.fullerton.edu Our department has been using CentOS (which is what I'm logged into at the moment) for our departmental server for at least a year now with no problems that I've heard of. The news about the head going Away WithOut Leave is disconcerting, as my neighbor's employer, a pretty good sized monthly membership services company, is probably going to be switching over to Cent OS... better warn her I guess. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Is there a future for CentOS or systems to run on your web server
Because in this fast-paced internet world of ours, rumor and innuendo spread fast, either from not knowing all the facts, making assumptions, or not reading all of the information, leads to the needless destruction of reputations and livelihoods. Why spread fear about something we don't really know that much about? Like I said, the only issue is the stupid domain name. What they say on the site: Facts Regarding CentOS and the Open Letter to Lance Davishttp://www.centos.org/ CentOS is not dead or going away. The signers of the Open Letter are fully committed to continue the CentOS Project. Updates and new releases will continue. The issues raised in the Open Letter have been raised privately literally for years and a voluntary resolution had been hoped for and worked toward. But progress requires follow through. We have tried contacting Lance in private for a long period of time before this Open Letter. While we received promises, there was no real response or follow through from him on promises made. We are sure he is not dead, on vacation, or sick. Once we all decided there was no movement in the matter we created the Open Letter. This is not something that appeared just recently. We would really like to continue the project using the centos.org domain. That is one of the reasons for the Open Letter. But the developers will move to another domain if there is no other option. Protective backups are in place; hot machines exist to allow for a cutover with a simple one time installation of one RPM package. We continue to refine our plans if this might be the case, to make the transition as smooth as possible. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/7/31 Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com Hi all, My conclusion after reading the CentOS web site is: CentOS is dead. What indicates that this conclusion is wrong? -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevMedia 4 does not like my animated gifs (constantMask problem)
That's an absurd demand for a web host, even a free one. TIME TO MOVE TO A NEW ONE. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/7/30 Alejandro Tejada capellan2...@yahoo.com Hi all, If Yahoo complaints about exceeding downloads limits, please wait 15 or 30 minutes to try again. Thanks in advance. al Visit my site: http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Reading a Word File
Yes, it's possible, as Google has shown, that it's possible to 'crack' the MS formats, but it is not trivial, and not published. What is usually suggested is to tell whoever is supplying the documents you need to process in RTF format, which any copy of Word can do, and you can preserve most of the formatting. Parsing such a document must still be done carefully, but the RTF specs are published online. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/7/29 Gregory Lypny gregory.ly...@videotron.ca Hello everyone, Is it possible to read a portion, say, 300 lines, of a Word file (.doc) into a Rev field and keep most the formatting or otherwise strip it away? Regards, Gregory ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Watch a video about a whole new approach to script editing
I can step in here. T-Rev and GLX2 are two different products. One does not need the other. T-rev is a radically different approach to editing scripts in Rev. The former approach, tapping into Rev's Editor hooks from standard Rev windows running in the IDE can be a dicy, moving-target nightmare for an outside developer, and I'm sure Jerry's run into name-space and messaging issues among other things. Daniels and Mara should get some kind of award for even attempting Galaxy and GLX2. I'm sure it was a long way from being easy to accomplish - and thanks for doing it. But Jerry is a very smart and resourceful fellow, and he's been alway looking for other ways to do things, poking at this idea for a while: Get out of the rev IDE namespace and 'remote control' the IDE by using a temporary plugin and sockets. Brilliant! I never got the concept editor to work for me a couple of years ago, but this TRev thing really rocks. It's more like the zippy editor we had in Hypercard. T-Rev is to the point and just damn simple. And really fast. Whatever Jerry's done here, it's a world of difference vs. any other editing tool for Rev. Another great feature is Jerry Himself.. and the anticipated discussion group that will go with the product. I'm sure a lot of features will be added with the very frequent updates. So it's a living, breathing, continually updated application. Watch it being developed before your eyes. At the same time, I'm sure he's going to keep the feature-itus to a minimum, to keep it lean. Most of the 'good stuff' is there now. And thanks, Jerry for the ongoing 'Chalkboard' motif... (I'm probably one of three people that asked for it in GLX2.) - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/7/28 Robert M. r...@free.fr Hi, what is not clear to me is how trev relates to GLX2 editor -- what is common in the 2 prgrams, (I guess automatic completion) -- what are function in GLX that have not been carried into Trex? (I guess the debugger part) -- what's added in tRev that is not in GLX? (I guess the visual inspector) what is the cope of use of both a the tools? thanks, Robert (user of GLX2) Jerry Daniels-2 wrote: We made a video showing it in action: http://reveditor.com/trev-the-movie fo/use-revolution -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/-ANN--Watch-a-video-about-a-whole-new-approach-to-script-editing-tp24690839p24698086.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Watch a video about a whole new approach to script editing
Hi Jerry, I have an early beta of T-Rev and it is indeed fast. Now what we need is a fast, responsive debugger to go with it. Can you make your new method work for that function? - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/7/27 Jerry Daniels jerry.dani...@me.com Fellow editors of scripts, I have really enjoyed the great new features in Rev 3.5 and 4.0, as have all of us. One of those improvements came in the form of a new script editor. As a developer of a third-party suite of development tools, this created new opportunities for our little company (me and the Missus). The big opening we saw in Revolution's new IDE was actually not IN the IDE, but OUTSIDE of it. We wrote a new, compact, high-performance script editor that lives entirely outside of Revolution. It communicates with Revolution via a small plugin using sockets. We made a video showing it in action: http://reveditor.com/trev-the-movie This new approach to script editing is called tRev (TEE-rev). It is very fast. And it is incredibly stable. I have not had it crash once in nearly a month of heavy use. Other early adopters are reporting the same result. Here's what it does for you: - compiles - handles compile errors - responds immediately to execution errors (without locking up) - sports twenty tabs - provides inline auto-completion (clairvoyance) - updates any or all of its components (has 25 components) without restarting - automatically checks for updates on your behalf - offers no-click inspection from either Rev or itself - makes itself transparent so you can inspect THROUGH it - archives up to 30 copies of the stacks you are editing - lives in its own space without any IDE conflicts You should click this link to watch the video: http://reveditor.com/trev-the-movie You should click the link below to buy a pre-release version from the RevSelect store: http://runrev.com/products/related-software/trev-editor/ Start the popcorn popping and enjoy our block-buster movie! Best, Jerry Daniels http://reveditor.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Watch a video about a whole new approach to script editing
Looks great, Jerry. I've supported this concept editor for a long time in theory and I'm glad you got it working so well. My early beta rocks, now I guess I have to step up to the plate. Arg. I have to order through the ghastly Rev ordering pages (it doesn't know who I am), and I'm sure my bank and VISA is going to refuse the attempt. RBS doesn't have a good reputation over here I guess. I really hate having to call the bank EACH time I make a purchase at the Rev store. Are you guys going to have some kind of EASY payment system someday, at least for the third party items like this one? This is like the third degree all over again. It would seem that the hassle factor would kill off some of the business, no? No Paypal? - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/7/27 stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com Hi Jerry, I have an early beta of T-Rev and it is indeed fast. Now what we need is a fast, responsive debugger to go with it. Can you make your new method work for that function? - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/7/27 Jerry Daniels jerry.dani...@me.com Fellow editors of scripts, I have really enjoyed the great new features in Rev 3.5 and 4.0, as have all of us. One of those improvements came in the form of a new script editor. As a developer of a third-party suite of development tools, this created new opportunities for our little company (me and the Missus). The big opening we saw in Revolution's new IDE was actually not IN the IDE, but OUTSIDE of it. We wrote a new, compact, high-performance script editor that lives entirely outside of Revolution. It communicates with Revolution via a small plugin using sockets. We made a video showing it in action: http://reveditor.com/trev-the-movie This new approach to script editing is called tRev (TEE-rev). It is very fast. And it is incredibly stable. I have not had it crash once in nearly a month of heavy use. Other early adopters are reporting the same result. Here's what it does for you: - compiles - handles compile errors - responds immediately to execution errors (without locking up) - sports twenty tabs - provides inline auto-completion (clairvoyance) - updates any or all of its components (has 25 components) without restarting - automatically checks for updates on your behalf - offers no-click inspection from either Rev or itself - makes itself transparent so you can inspect THROUGH it - archives up to 30 copies of the stacks you are editing - lives in its own space without any IDE conflicts You should click this link to watch the video: http://reveditor.com/trev-the-movie You should click the link below to buy a pre-release version from the RevSelect store: http://runrev.com/products/related-software/trev-editor/ Start the popcorn popping and enjoy our block-buster movie! Best, Jerry Daniels http://reveditor.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Any thoughts on speed limitations of Revlet?
NINE BALL looks and works great here. Mac G5 dual 2.5 ghzAwesome ballistics and graphics. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/7/26 James Hurley jhurley0...@sbcglobal.net Unfortunately, if Richard is right about the bumpy behavior being natural by-product of running inside the browser , it does not look good for porting games to a revlet. Take a look at Nine Ball on the web: http://jamesphurley.on-rev.com/NineBall/test.html Not good at all. Jim Hurley ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Any thoughts on speed limitations of Revlet?
Jim, that's URL encoding. %20 is hex 20, ascii space. There are spaces in the filename. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/7/25 James Hurley jhurley0...@sbcglobal.net P.S. The stack I tried was RainbowTest.rev and if you are interested you can see it in action by running the line below in the message box. And if you have Rev 4.0 you can create your own test by saving it for the web. go url http://www.jamesphurley.com/RainbowTest.rev; Not only does the mouseMove handler run lethargically, but the image (a flashlight, or up in Scotland, a torch) carrying that script breaks up on the screen, i.e. the image breaks up into two separate parts. Odd. I tested your stack Jim. It was very interesting as it worked at full speed when running in the browser but from the files on my desktop. When I uploaded the revlet it's html file to my web server http://troz.on-rev.com/rainbow/test.html, it ran as described. Interestingly, the Draw bunches script runs fine, it seems to be dragging the torch around that causes the delay. This may be an optimization thing that will be improved as the plugin develops, or it may be that mouseMoves need to be handled differently. Cheers, Sarah Thanks Sarah. Your feed back was very helpful. I confess that when I ran the stack I posted to you I got the same results you did--and not the same as I obtained earlier when I ran the full stack from which I extracted the bit I posted. Just to isolate the issue of the graphic display, I tried a very simple stack: A single image (my barn last winter) with a MouseMove handler. go url http://www.jamesphurley.com/MoveGraphicTest.rev; When I drag this image around the screen (running in Safari from the file on my desktop) I found the motion to be rather bumpy, not nearly as smooth as when running in desktop RunRev. It is tolerable, but bumpy. As you say, this may be something that needs tweaking as the plug in evolves. I haven't tried uploading it to the my web server. Not sure how to proceed to the next step. The url in Safari looks like this: file:///Rev%20apps%20on%20web/Untitled%201/test.html I never have figured out what character the %20 is a substitution for. Little help? How would I proceed from this Safari rendition to posting it to my on-rev web site for a test? Thanks, Jim Hurley ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Website not allowing revlets
How many hosting services are going to behave in the same way? only the cheesiest. I have never heard of a hosting service do such a thing. What if one were creating their own file type? - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/7/23 Richmond Mathewson richmondmathew...@gmail.com I made a test stack and built a web revlet: the html page ran extremely smoothly in Safari when it was on my Hard drive. When I uploaded the html page and the revlet to my website, the revlet vanished because the web hoster would not allow files of that type . . . something that needs to be investigated. How many hosting services are going to behave in the same way? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: web app scalability
Yes each page access is an application load at the server and it appears that there is no need for 'session variables' as in PHP as every variable created in rev is only good for the time the document executes. I'm not clear what the difference in script locals and globals would be here, unless the globals persist between sessions, which they don't. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/7/22 Mark Stuart mfstu...@cox.net Written by stevex64 on Wed Jul 22, 2009 - 10:11 PM CDT Hi Forum, What is known about how well Rev web apps can handle a load? If I put a Rev app on a server and the app reads data from a flat file, or from a MySQL database, is there any way to estimate how it will behave when 100 or 1000 people are hitting it at the same time? Does the server spawn a new instance of the app for every user? Thanks for any comments. Steve Good question Steve, I've been afraid to ask because I've invested so much into RunRev. So far my RunRev applications have been single user apps, so about time to know this. -- Regards, Mark Stuart ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Getting a Rev App to have an icon on the Apple Menu bar
I have the same setup and the last version but the folders do not appear. Also Benoit Wiedemann does not support it for Tiger and beyond and has to run in emulation - no intel code. What's the trick to get them to appear? IMPORTANT: AliasMenu is *not sold anymore, nor supported*. You can emulate most of AliasMenu's features with Leopard's dock (for menus) and AliasKeys (for shortcuts). WRONG. The dock feature is nothing like aliasmenus. I wonder why he quit supporting it. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/7/18 George C Brackett gbrack...@luceatlux.com AliasMenu still works on my MacBook Pro OS X 10.5.7. I would be lost without it. George On Jul 17, 2009, at 9:37 PM, stephen barncard wrote: There used to be a great product called Aliasmenu that would do that, but the author gave up with problems making it work from Tiger on What recent application have you seen that can do this? - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/7/17 Sivakatirswami ka...@hindu.org How does one get and icon for one's application to appear on the Menu Bar of OS X? Sivakatirswami ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Timed User Input
Don't use a modal ask dialog for user input. Use a field and button on the card instead. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/7/17 Mark Smith li...@futilism.com Rick, how have you done your timer - a repeat loop or a 'send-in-time' ? Best, Mark On 17 Jul 2009, at 15:48, Rick Harrison wrote: I'm trying to set up a guessing game where the user has to race against a timer to give an answer before the time runs out. The problem is that when the user is asked for input, the timer stops due to the interrupt. Or the timer keeps running, and doesn't allow any user input. To work correctly the timer should still be counting down as the user is trying to answer the question. Any thoughts, ideas, or suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thanks, Rick ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Getting a Rev App to have an icon on the Apple Menu bar
There used to be a great product called Aliasmenu that would do that, but the author gave up with problems making it work from Tiger on What recent application have you seen that can do this? - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/7/17 Sivakatirswami ka...@hindu.org How does one get and icon for one's application to appear on the Menu Bar of OS X? Sivakatirswami ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Webinar questions
I've been using IShowU HD. http://store.shinywhitebox.com/ The webinar venture appears to have its own proprietary capturing software integrated with the sharing. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/7/13 James Hurley jhurley0...@sbcglobal.net A couple of questions generated by the last Webinar. FIrst, how does one implement vertical text? Second, a beginner's question on movie making. What is the basic mechanism by which the streaming video is created? What software does one use to make of movie of the actions being taken (and the voice input) while working in the RunRev IDE? Jim Hurley ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev 4 beta status
Hi Andre, more stupid American questions about Brazil: Can you dance and play the bossa nova? Did you know Antonio Carlos Jobim and Astrud Giberto? Are you a fan of Milton Nacimento and Bebe Giberto? (I am..) Do you know anybody that actually lives in Brasilla? (candangos?) ...is that any better? personal note: long ago I almost went to Brazil to record Milton's solo record, produced by my friend Jim Price, but Jim had already picked somebodyJim also produced 'Native Dancer' with Wayne Shorter and Milton. One of my favorite LPs. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/7/11 Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com: Here in Brazil our image of scotland is that of cheesy actors wearing kilts choping the heads out of their foes with swords while the queen is playing and Sir Sean Connery is smiling pretending to be spanish... *joke*ducks* which is better than what the average european or american thinks Brazil is during travels, I had to answer the following very peculiar questions: 1) Do you live in a jungle with indians? Me: Yes, My Father is the shaman and eat the catholic priest to aquire his powers of chocolate making. 2) Do you really walk naked on the street? Me: Yes, but I am forbidden to do that by law because people were falling in love all the time. 3) What about all the wild animals like lions and elephants? Me: Once I had to shoo a lion with a broom, he was just there on my living room licking my baby elephant, the lion though it was his child. 4) How come your a software developer, do you have electricity or computers there? Me: no we don't, my computer is crank powered and was smuggled on elephants into the country. 5) All you are soccer stars, do you know Pelé? Me: Yes I had an agreement with him, he teached me how to code and I teached him how to play soccer. The list goes on forever... Even U.S. Presidents on official visits had the location of the country and it's capital wrong ARGH! during school here I had to learn the basic history of each single american, european and asiatic countries. During my university exams, I had questions on politics and geography from hundreds years past for countries such as France, China, India. Questions about the russian revolution and african cleptocracies. Now, people can't locate my country on a map... at least people know where Scotland is... On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Richmond Mathewsonrichmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: As all readers of Diana Gabaldon's books know, scotland IS the synonym for the highlands :-D -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sort Command in 3.5 is adding lines to a variable
Pasted-in NULL characters can also train wreck the GLX2 script editor. I use Tex-Edit (not Textedit) for quick text cleaning.I've seen text from a database serving Wordpress where users had pasted in NULLs with their text, not to mention curly quotes, etc. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/7/2 Paul Looney supp...@ahsomme.com Richard, It has been a while... I went back and checked my records. The problem (probably related to the number of characters per line) was thousands of NULL characters in the variable. When I removed the NULLs, everything worked fine. So now I always trap for NULLs before doing a sort - and have not had a repeat of this problem. By the way, we are not sure where the NULLS came from. Our best guess is that it has something to do with pasting text from a word processor into one of our notes fields. I, too, would like to know the new limit. Mark? Paul Looney On Jul 2, 2009, at 12:52 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Paul Looney wrote: I have had the opposite happen. On a large variable, sorting removed lines. Rev 3.0, OS X 10.5 If memory serves, that was the result of a limitation of the sort command where it could only be used reliably on data in which no single line exceeded 65,535 chars. According to the v3.5 Engine Change Log, that was fixed in v3.5: http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=5932 Unfortunately the current limit is not noted in the docs for the Sort command, nor in that report, so I don't know exactly what it is in the latest version. But 64k of text was a lot for a single line, so whatever it's been raised to should be plenty for most common tasks. Timothy's report of the trailing blank line may be a regression error which had been marked as fixed in the 3.5 Engine Change Log: http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=7809 -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Revolution training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sort Command in 3.5 is adding lines to a variable
Well one could make a simple thing in a standalone replace numToChar(0) with empty in fld x (or any container, perhaps the clipboard) by the way NULL is a built in constant in Rev. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/7/2 Nicolas Cueto nicon...@gmail.com About good and simple text editors that can keep text clean (of null characters, in this case), Stephen Barncard recommended Tex-Edit but that's for Macs. Any similar recommendations for Windows? Or is Notepad sufficient? And please note the word simple :-) Thanks. -- Nicolas Cueto ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: moving domain to on-rev
You shouldn't have to ask your ISP to change the nameservers. I haven't had to do that for years. Your domain registrar may be, and usually is, a different entity than your ISP. Registrars usually offer a control panel to do such changes, and anyone with an administrative or technical contact authorization can change it. It's dead-dog simple to change. Three items, copy and paste. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/7/1 Claudi Cornaz claud...@fiberworld.nl I will now ask my isp to try again to change the nameservers, hoping it will work this time. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Creepy 2020
And what's your Facebook username? - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/7/1 Randall Reetz rand...@randallreetz.com I still think it ironic that we are intolerant of governments and corporations when they engage in behaviors we excuse in our selves. How many people go to church or get their kids in a soccer league or enroll them in a private school specifically to gain access to the right group of potential customers? FaceBook et al are just providing to that same demand. Yes it is creepy... how humans act towards their friends. Everyone wants the networking advantages afforded by a company that mines personal data. Nobody likes to know how that data is aquired when it comes to their own identity. Really creepy is the vailed astonishment expressed as the nessisary wizard of oz is revealed to be just what our greed demands of him. The perfect reflection of us! I live in Palo Alto, and have listened in on hundreds of facebook employee cafe conversations. Souls not required. It is one thing to be a slimy insurance salesman... quite another to institutionalize and automate this most tragic of human tendancies... and to make a killing doing so. The edifice that is socil networking software tends to depersonalize and infrastructurealize sleezyness. Hey, everyone is driving drunk!, becomes, If we arent supposed to drive drunk, why is there a beer tap right here on the dash board? -Original Message- From: Lynn Fredricks lfredri...@proactive-intl.com To: 'How to use Revolution' use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: 7/1/2009 3:14 PM Subject: Creepy 2020 We seem to be assuming that Facebook is automagically digging into your address book, when it could just be finding you in reverse from people that have already shared. This would actually seem more efficient, since while you may not share your address book, somebody else that knows you probably has... This creepy privacy invasion thread makes me think of the various ways Google snaps up information - by car and of course by satelite. Maybe in a few years we will see robot wars between the Google Car, Yahoo Refuse Digger and Facebook Roto Rooter - all fighting each other to get the last bit of our private information :-) Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software http://www.paradigmasoft.com Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Creepy 2020
I was joking - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/7/1 stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com And what's your Facebook username? - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/7/1 Randall Reetz rand...@randallreetz.com I still think it ironic that we are intolerant of governments and corporations when they engage in behaviors we excuse in our selves. How many people go to church or get their kids in a soccer league or enroll them in a private school specifically to gain access to the right group of potential customers? FaceBook et al are just providing to that same demand. Yes it is creepy... how humans act towards their friends. Everyone wants the networking advantages afforded by a company that mines personal data. Nobody likes to know how that data is aquired when it comes to their own identity. Really creepy is the vailed astonishment expressed as the nessisary wizard of oz is revealed to be just what our greed demands of him. The perfect reflection of us! I live in Palo Alto, and have listened in on hundreds of facebook employee cafe conversations. Souls not required. It is one thing to be a slimy insurance salesman... quite another to institutionalize and automate this most tragic of human tendancies... and to make a killing doing so. The edifice that is socil networking software tends to depersonalize and infrastructurealize sleezyness. Hey, everyone is driving drunk!, becomes, If we arent supposed to drive drunk, why is there a beer tap right here on the dash board? -Original Message- From: Lynn Fredricks lfredri...@proactive-intl.com To: 'How to use Revolution' use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: 7/1/2009 3:14 PM Subject: Creepy 2020 We seem to be assuming that Facebook is automagically digging into your address book, when it could just be finding you in reverse from people that have already shared. This would actually seem more efficient, since while you may not share your address book, somebody else that knows you probably has... This creepy privacy invasion thread makes me think of the various ways Google snaps up information - by car and of course by satelite. Maybe in a few years we will see robot wars between the Google Car, Yahoo Refuse Digger and Facebook Roto Rooter - all fighting each other to get the last bit of our private information :-) Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software http://www.paradigmasoft.com Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Creepy 2020
It all depends what one puts into it. I've reconnected with a staff of characters from my former workplace and realized that job was one of the best times (and the worst times too) of my life. I had shot many videos and photos - which I was saving for my online bio - and used the excellent gallery and video upload tools at Facebook. Hey it's Facebook's hard drive and their bandwidth, why not. And the group liked it very much and wanted more. We may have a reunion in a few months. I didn't know for what purpose exactly I shot the video, but it all survived and found a place there ( and not you tube). The comments that come back are worth it. And since most of the 'friends' have some kind of connection to one's own reality, the system works pretty well. I haven't seen any hecklers where I hang out. A lot of attitude but it's friendly so far. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/7/1 Randall Reetz rand...@randallreetz.com And yes i have a SpaceBook account. Some kids set up my account for me at a cafe. Same goes for MyFace. Have logged in at most twenty times... trying to figure it all out and to figure out why it is so intoxicating to so many people. I guess if you arent social networking you are actually working. That's one answer. I should start a quantum social network where you tweet but are limited to one bit! 0 -Original Message- From: stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: 7/1/2009 4:53 PM Subject: Re: Creepy 2020 And what's your Facebook username? - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/7/1 Randall Reetz rand...@randallreetz.com I still think it ironic that we are intolerant of governments and corporations when they engage in behaviors we excuse in our selves. How many people go to church or get their kids in a soccer league or enroll them in a private school specifically to gain access to the right group of potential customers? FaceBook et al are just providing to that same demand. Yes it is creepy... how humans act towards their friends. Everyone wants the networking advantages afforded by a company that mines personal data. Nobody likes to know how that data is aquired when it comes to their own identity. Really creepy is the vailed astonishment expressed as the nessisary wizard of oz is revealed to be just what our greed demands of him. The perfect reflection of us! I live in Palo Alto, and have listened in on hundreds of facebook employee cafe conversations. Souls not required. It is one thing to be a slimy insurance salesman... quite another to institutionalize and automate this most tragic of human tendancies... and to make a killing doing so. The edifice that is socil networking software tends to depersonalize and infrastructurealize sleezyness. Hey, everyone is driving drunk!, becomes, If we arent supposed to drive drunk, why is there a beer tap right here on the dash board? -Original Message- From: Lynn Fredricks lfredri...@proactive-intl.com To: 'How to use Revolution' use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: 7/1/2009 3:14 PM Subject: Creepy 2020 We seem to be assuming that Facebook is automagically digging into your address book, when it could just be finding you in reverse from people that have already shared. This would actually seem more efficient, since while you may not share your address book, somebody else that knows you probably has... This creepy privacy invasion thread makes me think of the various ways Google snaps up information - by car and of course by satelite. Maybe in a few years we will see robot wars between the Google Car, Yahoo Refuse Digger and Facebook Roto Rooter - all fighting each other to get the last bit of our private information :-) Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software http://www.paradigmasoft.com Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution [truncated by sender] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ON-REV] include, dbExec and other things
yeah, I know the On-Rev documentation is a little vague -- much of what you need to know about On-Rev special stuff is in the On-Rev engine notes: http://samples.on-rev.com/irev-engine-notes.txt I haven't seen anything called dbExec -- unless you saw it someone's code - could be a rev subroutine or a jqurery call. The .irev or .inc files that don't have a closing ? are used for subroutine use only - the page doesn't 'execute' anything itself - has to be called from another page... using include earlier in the calling script. 009/6/30 Nicolas Cueto nicon...@gmail.com A bit of a ramble... To learn how to script irev files, I've been looking at members' code examples. But I'm getting snagged up by new terms. Two of my latest:dbExec and include. At first I searched the runrev documentation, but now I know they're not runrev commands -- which I found odd, since I thought the code between the ?rev and the ? that did stuff had to be rev-only... or in html. BTW, some code examples omitted the ?. Is that an oversight or is that ok? Why? So, I looked more closely at the code examples, goggled a bit, and now have a sense of what dbExec and include are and a vague notion of how to use them (but further light is welcome). Anyway, my basic question is: If it's not in the Rev docs, how can I learn what irev scripts can do? Besides, that is, the on-rev forum, the on-rev online docs, and of course bugging this list. Thanks. -- Nicolas Cueto ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Unwanted characters from pasted-in text.
Thanks Björnke! that indeed is the magic incantation thanks again - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/6/25 Björnke von Gierke b...@mac.com I'm not sure, but those could be utf-8 chars, did you try to convert from utf8? function revText theText return unidecode(uniencode(theText,utf8)) end revText ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [On-Rev] Photo Gallery problem
typo? ...src='Thumbnails/ L '/a afterttable shouldn't that be 'after ttable? - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/6/24 Dom mcd...@free.fr Hi! I am running up against a problem... My goal: ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Unwanted characters from pasted-in text.
I have a wordpress blog that has survived many upgrades. Some text was entered by users by pasting text into the earlier simple Wordpress entry fields in the early years. The text was readable and correct at the time. I'm guessing that Wordpress changed their MySQL character encoding. In the transition to the later versions, the text has a lot of character errors, usually involving 'smart' quotes, apostrophes and dashes. Also an occasional null would work its way in, and you know how rev love nulls. In trying to clean this up with rev, here's my brute force method: code put fld output2 into tBlock replace numToChar(0) with empty in tBlock -- nulls replace â€ù WITH quote in tBlock replace ’ WITH ' in tBlock replace â€a WITH ' in tBlock replace â€? WITH quote in tBlock replace “ WITH quote in tBlock replace â€ù WITH quote in tBlock replace – WITH - in tBlock replace ˆ WITH - in tBlock put tBlock into fld output /code Does this look familiar? I'd be ok with this, but every time I run this with other posts, I get new codes that aren't covered above. Is there some kind of unicode trick that would cover everything? Or am I stuck with this method? thanks, sqb - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
characters pasted from word processor
Hello Everyone, I would like to find a recipe to recover the original character of character strings like this: ÂΩ Âº ‘ ‶ (typical text block with imbedded problem text:) *comparison, Wally’s machine was “stock†, straight out of the catalog. Part of this was due to the anticipated need for 4-channel Dynatrack, which would have required 8 tracks on 1†tape. As a result, everything was designed for ¼†through 1†operation.* These are mostly curly quotes, punctuation stuff. They are imbedded into otherwise plain text. Something was different on the newer implementation of Wordpress and the data's appearance changed in Wordpress the obvious ones I could search and replace, but I can't guess them all and I suspect there's a way to convert these. any ideas are welcome. thanks in advance - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Salivating . . .
This is indeed a momentous occasion, as I have never seen such unrestrained exuberance from Richmond before! - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/6/23 Richmond Mathewson richmondmathew...@gmail.com . . . Hurrah, Hurrah, Hurrah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ON-REV: Using Trevor's library on
Thanks, Sarah. Cookies.. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/6/21 Sarah Reichelt sarah.reich...@gmail.com I've seen some scripts that appear to use globals but I couldn't see that is was really necessary. As you say, variables only seem to persist while the script is running, although there is no problem referring to the same variable in more than one ?rev ... ? block. I think for real persistent data, you need to store it either on the server as a file, or on the user's computer as a cookie, depending on the requirements. You have to remember that multiple people could be accessing the web page at the same time, so the same data may not be valid for all. Session variables are another possibility, but not one I have explored yet. Cheers, Sarah __ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] ETag include for On-Rev (was Re: Compare files between on-rev and local versions)
Andre, I notice that you use the .inc suffix for on-rev includes. I know that's the convention for PHP includes, unfortunately, that suffix will not allow the on-rev client to read or edit the file, even though it contains code. I'm assuming you are using your own tools for on-rev development. I currently use the on-rev client for in situ debugging. Helps a lot. I use coda too, but it currently doesn't format rev code (yet). It has an intuitive css editor as well as an assisted text mode. BBEdit is good for everything else. This is yet another reason why I really would request the on-rev client to allow plug-ins, some kind of API or better yet, open up the code so we can work with it. I think what the on-rev coders have done is fantastic, but there will always bee a need for one more thing. ? syncing (or at least compare) indenting work on any text file (or at least allow .inc files as editable) search and replace snippet storage ? I'm guessing that Jerry or Andre are working on some kind of alternative editor for on-rev right now. Where do I sign up? - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/6/22 Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com Hello Folks, I've just created a minimal ETag include file for On-Rev. For those not familiar with ETags, they are unique identifiers that are sent as HTTP Headers. When your file change, your ETag for that file also changes. So a browser or any http client may sent a web request like, give me that file is the ETag is different from this one, or if it still the same. For more information on ETags consult Dr. Wik E. Pedia at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_ETag What my include does is set the ETag header for the file that includes it. So if you have a helloworld.irev file and include etag.inc then, an ETag http header will be set when helloworld.irev is requested, if the file changes, the ETag changes too. Another thing it does is expose an ETag function that will comput an ETag for a given file path. And there's one more thing: sometimes, you just want to know if helloworld.irev changed but you don't want to execute it, for this cases, just pass a url parameter op=etag, like helloworld.irev?op=etag this way the include will set the ETag and force the engine to exit without running any further. This of course just works up to the point where the etag is included, so include it as the first line. you can check the etag.inc by going to: http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/scriptviewer.irev?f=etag.inc (Karma bonus, my script viewer generates links for downloading compressed copies of the viewed files) If you're on a unix like system or any system with CURL, you can do a: curl -v http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/etagtest.irev and see the ETag header being sent. So if you want to compare two files, assuming it's a local and a remote copy, you can simply store the ETag every time you cache the file, then you just query for it later. Hope this is useful andre ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Re-2: [ANN] ETag include for On-Rev (was Re: Compare files between on-rev and local versions)
I gotta poke around more. My apologies. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/6/22 runrev260...@m-r-d.de Hi Stephen, Andre, I notice that you use the .inc suffix for on-rev includes. I know that's the convention for PHP includes, unfortunately, that suffix will not allow the on-rev client to read or edit the file, even though it contains code. I'm assuming you are using your own tools for on-rev development. you can add inc under Text Types in preferences in the on-rev client. Regards, Matthias ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution