Re: [ANN] Move controls in tRev Object Browser with the new ZOOM!
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Jerry Daniels jerry.dani...@me.com wrote: Fellow Rev developers, We just posted this video showing the new control manipulation in tRev's snapshot mode: http://reveditor.com/need-to-move-controls-in-card-snaps-zoom Here are the details: NEW Controls in Zoom: - zoomed cards now show a fully functional list of controls - control line items in list are draggable and names are editable - zoomed cards also have the scratch pad Move controls in Zoom: - controls in snaps can be dragged - controls in snaps can be moved with arrows - - plain arrow = 1 pixel - - shift arrow = on 10 pixel grid - - option arrow = align to next controls side Hey Jerry, I can't say that I ever found any difficulties with previous versions, but I just finished trying out the new zoom and move control features and they are awesome! It seems that I am always tweaking on control positioning, so I have a tendency to spend more time in the Rev editor than in tRev... I believe that will now change with these new additions. Can't speak for anyone else, but I appreciate all the work you are doing on tRev. ...it's just good stuff! Best regards, David C. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Move controls in tRev Object Browser with the new ZOOM!
David, Have to say, that's great to hear. Sometimes virtual shops like ours almost operate in a vacuum. Glad that you're liking the product and the new zoom feature! Best, Jerry Daniels The latest Rev Editor Video: http://reveditor.com/need-to-move-controls-in-card-snaps-zoom On Feb 12, 2010, at 12:09 PM, David Coker wrote: On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Jerry Daniels jerry.dani...@me.com wrote: Fellow Rev developers, We just posted this video showing the new control manipulation in tRev's snapshot mode: http://reveditor.com/need-to-move-controls-in-card-snaps-zoom Here are the details: NEW Controls in Zoom: - zoomed cards now show a fully functional list of controls - control line items in list are draggable and names are editable - zoomed cards also have the scratch pad Move controls in Zoom: - controls in snaps can be dragged - controls in snaps can be moved with arrows - - plain arrow = 1 pixel - - shift arrow = on 10 pixel grid - - option arrow = align to next controls side Hey Jerry, I can't say that I ever found any difficulties with previous versions, but I just finished trying out the new zoom and move control features and they are awesome! It seems that I am always tweaking on control positioning, so I have a tendency to spend more time in the Rev editor than in tRev... I believe that will now change with these new additions. Can't speak for anyone else, but I appreciate all the work you are doing on tRev. ...it's just good stuff! Best regards, David C. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Move controls in tRev Object Browser with the new ZOOM!
Bonjour, Great update Jerry ! I particularly appreciate that the first tab is now always and only for the browser That makes it very easy to go to and fro between the browser and the object's code tabs (don't know if between is necessary! ;-))) Thank a lot Good week-end to all Best regards from Grenoble André Le 12 févr. 10 à 16:54, Jerry Daniels a écrit : Fellow Rev developers, We just posted this video showing the new control manipulation in tRev's snapshot mode: http://reveditor.com/need-to-move-controls-in-card-snaps-zoom Here are the details: NEW Controls in Zoom: - zoomed cards now show a fully functional list of controls - control line items in list are draggable and names are editable - zoomed cards also have the scratch pad Move controls in Zoom: - controls in snaps can be dragged - controls in snaps can be moved with arrows - - plain arrow = 1 pixel - - shift arrow = on 10 pixel grid - - option arrow = align to next controls side Tabs: - first tab is always and only for the browser - New Tab menu item removed from File and Tab menus. Enhanced: - larger/smaller font size on view menu w shortcut - White on Black (aka Chalkboard) now on view menu w shortcut Optimized: - drag-n-drop in lists is more responsive, faster - auto-scrolling during drag-n-drop in lists is faster, less quirky - scrolling in all list fields and code field faster - code displays faster - browser columns populate faster (raw number of lines) Fixed: - tRev icon in Rev now remembers its location from session to session - control counter no longer counts the controls in dataGrids - inflated control counts kept script line counts from appearing in controls column - alignment of all fields and buttons now perfecto Best, Jerry Daniels The latest Rev Editor Video: http://reveditor.com/not-enough-detail-in-a-card-snap-zoom-it ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Move controls in tRev Object Browser with the new ZOOM!
Andre, That the second congratulations posted today. Glad you like the update! Very gratifying to hear. You guys are making my weekend great and it's only Friday! Jerry Daniels The latest Rev Editor Video: http://reveditor.com/need-to-move-controls-in-card-snaps-zoom On Feb 12, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Andre.Bisseret wrote: Bonjour, Great update Jerry ! I particularly appreciate that the first tab is now always and only for the browser That makes it very easy to go to and fro between the browser and the object's code tabs (don't know if between is necessary! ;-))) Thank a lot Good week-end to all Best regards from Grenoble André Le 12 févr. 10 à 16:54, Jerry Daniels a écrit : Fellow Rev developers, We just posted this video showing the new control manipulation in tRev's snapshot mode: http://reveditor.com/need-to-move-controls-in-card-snaps-zoom Here are the details: NEW Controls in Zoom: - zoomed cards now show a fully functional list of controls - control line items in list are draggable and names are editable - zoomed cards also have the scratch pad Move controls in Zoom: - controls in snaps can be dragged - controls in snaps can be moved with arrows - - plain arrow = 1 pixel - - shift arrow = on 10 pixel grid - - option arrow = align to next controls side Tabs: - first tab is always and only for the browser - New Tab menu item removed from File and Tab menus. Enhanced: - larger/smaller font size on view menu w shortcut - White on Black (aka Chalkboard) now on view menu w shortcut Optimized: - drag-n-drop in lists is more responsive, faster - auto-scrolling during drag-n-drop in lists is faster, less quirky - scrolling in all list fields and code field faster - code displays faster - browser columns populate faster (raw number of lines) Fixed: - tRev icon in Rev now remembers its location from session to session - control counter no longer counts the controls in dataGrids - inflated control counts kept script line counts from appearing in controls column - alignment of all fields and buttons now perfecto Best, Jerry Daniels The latest Rev Editor Video: http://reveditor.com/not-enough-detail-in-a-card-snap-zoom-it ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Move controls in tRev Object Browser with the new ZOOM!
I have to second David's comments. TRev is coming together nicely, a piece at a time. The new fixed Browser tab is a welcome improvement over the previous Tab implementation. It's hard for me to use the built-in Rev editor at this point, and I'm relying less and less on the Application Browser. Mark On Feb 12, 2010, at 10:09 AM, David Coker wrote:, On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Jerry Daniels jerry.dani...@me.com wrote: Fellow Rev developers, We just posted this video showing the new control manipulation in tRev's snapshot mode: http://reveditor.com/need-to-move-controls-in-card-snaps-zoom Here are the details: NEW Controls in Zoom: - zoomed cards now show a fully functional list of controls - control line items in list are draggable and names are editable - zoomed cards also have the scratch pad Move controls in Zoom: - controls in snaps can be dragged - controls in snaps can be moved with arrows - - plain arrow = 1 pixel - - shift arrow = on 10 pixel grid - - option arrow = align to next controls side Hey Jerry, I can't say that I ever found any difficulties with previous versions, but I just finished trying out the new zoom and move control features and they are awesome! It seems that I am always tweaking on control positioning, so I have a tendency to spend more time in the Rev editor than in tRev... I believe that will now change with these new additions. Can't speak for anyone else, but I appreciate all the work you are doing on tRev. ...it's just good stuff! Best regards, David C. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Move controls in tRev Object Browser with the new ZOOM!
Yes I feel myself being inexorably drawn into the world of tRev. I think when the script editor from GLX2 is reintroduced, (I forget who is working on that) I will use tRev exclusively. tRev's editor is awesome in lots of ways, but there are still times I have to have a step debugger, so the combination of tRev and the ability to switch to another debugger on the fly is like the perfect world. Bob On Feb 12, 2010, at 12:11 PM, Mark Swindell wrote: I have to second David's comments. TRev is coming together nicely, a piece at a time. The new fixed Browser tab is a welcome improvement over the previous Tab implementation. It's hard for me to use the built-in Rev editor at this point, and I'm relying less and less on the Application Browser. Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Move controls in tRev Object Browser with the new ZOOM!
Bob, Glad you are grooving on tRev. tRev has definitely changed the way I personally develop apps, mentor and work on projects for people. But the area where I've seen the most change in my own habits is in the debugging arena. I used to debug in GLX2's and Rev's modal debugger a lot. I was quite dependent upon it. In fact, I think I was using it as part of my coding environment. My code got sloppier—I figured, Hey, I'll catch any problems in the debugger. Time spent coding was, well surprisingly lengthy. It would wear me out. I didn't realize it at the time, but in retrospect, that's what I think was happening. I'd have to say that using tRev has changed my coding habits in general. 1. I spend much less time coding. 2. I spend about 80 to 90% less time debugging now as well. Why is that? I was somewhat mystified by this discovery, myself. Here's what I think has happened: my mind started working differently when I started using tRev. I really organize my code in the folders it provides in the handler lists, especially since I can drag and drop handlers wherever I like in the handler list's folders. I can actually find my handlers—even from older projects. The scratch pad containing links of frequently-worked handlers helps me find the handlers I'm working on, as do the links to handlers peppered through out my code, thanks to tRev. The biggest thing I discovered about coding in RevTalk and xTalk is this: it's about the handlers. How you get to them, how you organize them. The stats function in tRev even tells me my average handler size in a script. If the lines per handler is getting too big in a script, then I know I'm asking for rough sledding and wasting time. Coding in tRev is ALL about the handlers. When I realized this, I slapped my forehead and said: It's the handlers, stupid! tRev has puts me in a better frame of mind: simple order. That's how I'd describe it. tRev has really made it easier and encouraged me by its example (you could say). It's easier to follow my own simple coding standards (naming vars with good names, not using nested functions, indexing repeats with var names, not x, etc.). And the autocomplete feature really cut down on typos. So, firstly, my need to debug is less, because my code was getting better. Then, when I did debug in tRev (we call it decoding), one glance at the decoder and errors seemed to jump out at me. Most of the time I don't even step through the breakpoints. That said, our decoder (a modeless debugger that appears after a script has run with an historical record stored in a database of breakpoints) still has some features coming. We are working on better support for multi-dimensional arrays and fixing some display anomalies. We're also adding support for breakpoints in repeat loops that let you walk through the iterations of variable content in a loop— after the code has run, of course. The biggest advantage of the debugger: its design/architecture keeps it completely out of Rev's way. It cannot really crash Rev or tRev. It's like a good doctor that does no harm. People using tRev are challenged by the decoder because it is a completely different model. There is no debugger like it. But once you get to using it, and let it work on your head, you'll find some real rewards. I am a very productive 61 year old coder and developer. You see here on this list just how often I update tRev with new features. I also do a significant amount of mentoring and project work for others. I also have a life with my family, community and friends outside of the technical world. But since using tRev, I spend less time coding/developing and much more time enjoying it, blogging about it. tRev seems to give me a certain clarity of mind that GLX2, Galaxy, Constellation and Rev script editors did not. Again, glad you're enjoying the product. It's encouraging to hear. Best, Jerry Daniels The latest Rev Editor Video: http://reveditor.com/need-to-move-controls-in-card-snaps-zoom On Feb 12, 2010, at 5:15 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: Yes I feel myself being inexorably drawn into the world of tRev. I think when the script editor from GLX2 is reintroduced, (I forget who is working on that) I will use tRev exclusively. tRev's editor is awesome in lots of ways, but there are still times I have to have a step debugger, so the combination of tRev and the ability to switch to another debugger on the fly is like the perfect world. Bob On Feb 12, 2010, at 12:11 PM, Mark Swindell wrote: I have to second David's comments. TRev is coming together nicely, a piece at a time. The new fixed Browser tab is a welcome improvement over the previous Tab implementation. It's hard for me to use the built-in Rev editor at this point, and I'm relying less and less on the Application Browser. Mark ___ use-revolution mailing
Re: [ANN] Move controls in tRev Object Browser with the new ZOOM!
I meant to say: The biggest advantage of the decoder (not debugger) in my previous post. On Feb 12, 2010, at 6:26 PM, Jerry Daniels wrote: The biggest advantage of the debugger: its design/architecture keeps it completely out of Rev's way. It cannot really crash Rev or tRev. It's like a good doctor that does no harm. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
