Re: Splash Screen Strategy

2006-05-25 Thread Dan Shafer

Streaming is out of the question. We just don't have the bandwidth.

But Chipp and I *are* talking about alternatives. We'll have some news in a
day or so.

On 5/22/06, Sivakatirswami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



On May 22, 2006, at 5:45 PM, Mark Talluto wrote:


 Hi Dan,

 If you want more unprofessional off the cuff video like last year,
 I would be more than happy to do it again.

It worked fine for me... this isn't the oscars!

Sivakatirswami

 Maybe Chris and I can do it together.  If you are going after
 something polished, then I completely understand and will be a
 happy just the same.

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Re: Splash Screen Strategy

2006-05-23 Thread Sivakatirswami


On May 22, 2006, at 5:45 PM, Mark Talluto wrote:



Hi Dan,

If you want more unprofessional off the cuff video like last year,  
I would be more than happy to do it again.


It worked fine for me... this isn't the oscars!

Sivakatirswami

Maybe Chris and I can do it together.  If you are going after  
something polished, then I completely understand and will be a  
happy just the same.


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Re: Splash Screen Strategy

2006-05-22 Thread Sarah Reichelt

On 5/22/06, Dan Shafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

At this point we have no plans to videotape any sessions because of the
logistics and deployment issues we ran into last year with almost zero
response from the community.

Audio may happen but video probably won't, at least not predictably and for
resale.



Noo!

I loved watching the videos and complimented you on them at the time.
However I guess audio would be better than nothing.

Quite a few of the presenters promised online version of their talks
after the last RevCon, but as far as I am aware, none of these
actually appeared, so some sort of recording would be most
appreciated.

Cheers,
Sarah
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Re: Splash Screen Strategy

2006-05-22 Thread Dan Shafer

We have been discussing an alternative way of providing content to those who
can't attend the conference. It isn't clear yet how or if we will do that.
Anything we do requires additional effort and since we can't easily gauge
the demand, we're kind of shooting in the dark a bit.

But stay tuned.

On 5/21/06, Sarah Reichelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 5/22/06, Dan Shafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At this point we have no plans to videotape any sessions because of the
 logistics and deployment issues we ran into last year with almost zero
 response from the community.

 Audio may happen but video probably won't, at least not predictably and
for
 resale.


Noo!

I loved watching the videos and complimented you on them at the time.
However I guess audio would be better than nothing.

Quite a few of the presenters promised online version of their talks
after the last RevCon, but as far as I am aware, none of these
actually appeared, so some sort of recording would be most
appreciated.

Cheers,
Sarah
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Re: Splash Screen Strategy

2006-05-22 Thread Sarah Reichelt

That would be great, Dan. Many thanks for your efforts.

Sarah


On 5/22/06, Dan Shafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

We have been discussing an alternative way of providing content to those who
can't attend the conference. It isn't clear yet how or if we will do that.
Anything we do requires additional effort and since we can't easily gauge
the demand, we're kind of shooting in the dark a bit.

But stay tuned.

On 5/21/06, Sarah Reichelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 5/22/06, Dan Shafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  At this point we have no plans to videotape any sessions because of the
  logistics and deployment issues we ran into last year with almost zero
  response from the community.
 
  Audio may happen but video probably won't, at least not predictably and
 for
  resale.


 Noo!

 I loved watching the videos and complimented you on them at the time.
 However I guess audio would be better than nothing.

 Quite a few of the presenters promised online version of their talks
 after the last RevCon, but as far as I am aware, none of these
 actually appeared, so some sort of recording would be most
 appreciated.

 Cheers,
 Sarah
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Re: Splash Screen Strategy

2006-05-22 Thread Mark Talluto


On May 22, 2006, at 12:46 AM, Dan Shafer wrote:

We have been discussing an alternative way of providing content to  
those who
can't attend the conference. It isn't clear yet how or if we will  
do that.
Anything we do requires additional effort and since we can't easily  
gauge

the demand, we're kind of shooting in the dark a bit.



Hi Dan,

If you want more unprofessional off the cuff video like last year, I  
would be more than happy to do it again.  Maybe Chris and I can do it  
together.  If you are going after something polished, then I  
completely understand and will be a happy just the same.



Mark Talluto
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Re: Splash Screen Strategy

2006-05-22 Thread Judy Perry
Again,

Does it need to be streaming/live?  Or could it survive/have a paying
audience if it were to be audited?

I'm reasonably certain a decent job could be done with editing, etc.  As
long as the audio's clear, you can always edit out bad video and
substitute screen shots, bullet points, etc.

I'm certain Mark can do a fine job!

Judy

On Mon, 22 May 2006, Mark Talluto wrote:


 On May 22, 2006, at 12:46 AM, Dan Shafer wrote:

  We have been discussing an alternative way of providing content to
  those who
  can't attend the conference. It isn't clear yet how or if we will
  do that.
  Anything we do requires additional effort and since we can't easily
  gauge
  the demand, we're kind of shooting in the dark a bit.


 Hi Dan,

 If you want more unprofessional off the cuff video like last year, I
 would be more than happy to do it again.  Maybe Chris and I can do it
 together.  If you are going after something polished, then I
 completely understand and will be a happy just the same.


 Mark Talluto
 --
 CANELA Software
 http://www.canelasoftware.com

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Re: Splash Screen Strategy

2006-05-21 Thread Sivakatirswami

I'm interested in this too...

Sorry I won't be there...

I hope  someone videos this session for all those who can't come!

Sivakatirswami

On May 18, 2006, at 10:02 AM, Chipp Walters wrote:


Hi Todd,

I use MagicCarpet to manage all my MainStacks and SubStacks (I call
plugins). I know you already have a copy. I'll be talking a bit  
more about
some of the new things I'm doing with auto-updating architectures  
at RevCon

and hope to see you there.

Contact me offlist if you need more info right away.

best,
Chipp


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Re: Splash Screen Strategy

2006-05-21 Thread Dan Shafer

At this point we have no plans to videotape any sessions because of the
logistics and deployment issues we ran into last year with almost zero
response from the community.

Audio may happen but video probably won't, at least not predictably and for
resale.

On 5/21/06, Sivakatirswami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I'm interested in this too...

Sorry I won't be there...

I hope  someone videos this session for all those who can't come!

Sivakatirswami

On May 18, 2006, at 10:02 AM, Chipp Walters wrote:

 Hi Todd,

 I use MagicCarpet to manage all my MainStacks and SubStacks (I call
 plugins). I know you already have a copy. I'll be talking a bit
 more about
 some of the new things I'm doing with auto-updating architectures
 at RevCon
 and hope to see you there.

 Contact me offlist if you need more info right away.

 best,
 Chipp

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Re: Splash Screen Strategy

2006-05-18 Thread Chipp Walters

Hi Todd,

I use MagicCarpet to manage all my MainStacks and SubStacks (I call
plugins). I know you already have a copy. I'll be talking a bit more about
some of the new things I'm doing with auto-updating architectures at RevCon
and hope to see you there.

Contact me offlist if you need more info right away.

best,
Chipp

On 5/16/06, Sarah Reichelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I am using the splash screen Architecture for deploying an app. The
 splash screen stack checks for updates and then launches the Main
 stack.  This part is all based on Chip's altSplash engine.

 I want the Main stack to manage installing additional stacks and or
 files.  My current strategy is to load those additional stacks and
 files into custom props in the Main stack.  Then when a new version
 of the main stack is downloaded it will spit out all of the stacks
 and files that are loaded into it's custom functions into the
 appropriate places.

 I thought that this would be easier then managing multiple downloads
 from the internet for each additional stack and or file.

 I am interested in hearing some opinions about this strategy. Does it
 make sense to do it this way?

I would say that the answer depends entirely on how often you plan to
update and how much needs updating each time. However I would
recommend keeping the files separate.

I have a splash-screen program with about 20 sub-stacks, some of which
get updated quite frequently. If I did it in one file, that would be
about 2MB each time, whereas doing it individually means that
sometimes the downloads are only a few K, depending on which stack has
been updated. Some of the stacks are updated frequently and others
have never been updated, so I wouldn't want to ask for the whole thing
to be downloaded after every change.

Cheers,
Sarah
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Splash Screen Strategy

2006-05-16 Thread Todd Geist

Hello,

I am using the splash screen Architecture for deploying an app. The  
splash screen stack checks for updates and then launches the Main  
stack.  This part is all based on Chip's altSplash engine.


I want the Main stack to manage installing additional stacks and or  
files.  My current strategy is to load those additional stacks and  
files into custom props in the Main stack.  Then when a new version  
of the main stack is downloaded it will spit out all of the stacks  
and files that are loaded into it's custom functions into the  
appropriate places.


I thought that this would be easier then managing multiple downloads  
from the internet for each additional stack and or file.


I am interested in hearing some opinions about this strategy. Does it  
make sense to do it this way?


TIA

Todd
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Re: Splash Screen Strategy

2006-05-16 Thread Sarah Reichelt

I am using the splash screen Architecture for deploying an app. The
splash screen stack checks for updates and then launches the Main
stack.  This part is all based on Chip's altSplash engine.

I want the Main stack to manage installing additional stacks and or
files.  My current strategy is to load those additional stacks and
files into custom props in the Main stack.  Then when a new version
of the main stack is downloaded it will spit out all of the stacks
and files that are loaded into it's custom functions into the
appropriate places.

I thought that this would be easier then managing multiple downloads
from the internet for each additional stack and or file.

I am interested in hearing some opinions about this strategy. Does it
make sense to do it this way?


I would say that the answer depends entirely on how often you plan to
update and how much needs updating each time. However I would
recommend keeping the files separate.

I have a splash-screen program with about 20 sub-stacks, some of which
get updated quite frequently. If I did it in one file, that would be
about 2MB each time, whereas doing it individually means that
sometimes the downloads are only a few K, depending on which stack has
been updated. Some of the stacks are updated frequently and others
have never been updated, so I wouldn't want to ask for the whole thing
to be downloaded after every change.

Cheers,
Sarah
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