feedparser

2009-04-27 Thread Thufir
If http://commons.apache.org/sandbox/feedparser/downloads.html doesn't 
have any downloads, then to use the project you have to checkout the code 
and compile the jar yourself?  Ok, but why?


-Thufir


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Re: [SCXML] Javascript as expression language

2009-04-27 Thread Roger Hoover
Hi Ingmar,
I'm not in a hurry but wanted to know if this was still likely to happen.
 Thanks for the reply!

Roger

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Ingmar Kliche  wrote:

> Hi Roger,
> you are right - this is still an open issue. Sorry for the "delay".
> Beginning from May (this year ;-) I will have a (part time) intern and I
> will put him on this issue first. So there is good hope. If you can wait
> for
> another few days? Sorry again.
>
> - Ingmar.
>
> 2009/4/24 Roger Hoover 
>
> > Hi Ingmar,
> >
> > Did this ever get released?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Roger
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Rahul Akolkar  > >wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Ingmar Kliche
> > >  wrote:
> > > > Hi Roger,
> > > >
> > > > yes, we have implemented it and plan to provide it to the project
> quite
> > > > soon. But the licensing issue is a good point and should be
> clarified.
> > > > Technically the implementation needs some final cleanup and things
> like
> > > test
> > > > cases. If you can wait another couple of weeks (due to holiday
> season)
> > it
> > > > should be available.
> > > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > Looking forward to it as well (that will reduce the min. JDK
> > > requirement for using Rhino I presume).
> > >
> > > -Rahul
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Ingmar.
> > > >
> > > > 2008/12/16 Roger Hoover 
> > > >
> > > >> Hi,
> > > >>
> > > >> Has anyone implemented Javascript as an expression language in SCXML
> > > Common
> > > >> with Rhino?  Would there be licensing issues with SCXML under Apache
> > > >> license
> > > >> and Rhino under MPL/GPL/LGPL triple license?
> > > >>
> > > >> If it can't be done as part of this project, how hard would it be to
> > > >> implement externally and do others have interest in it?
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks,
> > > >>
> > > >> Roger
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
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Re: [SCXML] Javascript as expression language

2009-04-27 Thread Ingmar Kliche
Hi Roger,
you are right - this is still an open issue. Sorry for the "delay".
Beginning from May (this year ;-) I will have a (part time) intern and I
will put him on this issue first. So there is good hope. If you can wait for
another few days? Sorry again.

- Ingmar.

2009/4/24 Roger Hoover 

> Hi Ingmar,
>
> Did this ever get released?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Roger
>
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Rahul Akolkar  >wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Ingmar Kliche
> >  wrote:
> > > Hi Roger,
> > >
> > > yes, we have implemented it and plan to provide it to the project quite
> > > soon. But the licensing issue is a good point and should be clarified.
> > > Technically the implementation needs some final cleanup and things like
> > test
> > > cases. If you can wait another couple of weeks (due to holiday season)
> it
> > > should be available.
> > >
> > 
> >
> > Looking forward to it as well (that will reduce the min. JDK
> > requirement for using Rhino I presume).
> >
> > -Rahul
> >
> >
> >
> > > Regards,
> > > Ingmar.
> > >
> > > 2008/12/16 Roger Hoover 
> > >
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> Has anyone implemented Javascript as an expression language in SCXML
> > Common
> > >> with Rhino?  Would there be licensing issues with SCXML under Apache
> > >> license
> > >> and Rhino under MPL/GPL/LGPL triple license?
> > >>
> > >> If it can't be done as part of this project, how hard would it be to
> > >> implement externally and do others have interest in it?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >>
> > >> Roger
> > >>
> > >
> >
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> >
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Re: [JXPath] Questions about pointers, listeners & filters

2009-04-27 Thread Adrian Mitev
Why don't you share us the solutions?

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Andrew Hughes  wrote:
> I think I have a solution for both based on JXPath.
>
> Cheers && a HUGE thank's to JXPath && Matt.
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Andrew Hughes  wrote:
>
>> Hi All - probably just Matt tho   :)
>> I've had some great results with JXPath, and I am now getting down to the
>> nitty/gritty of what I am trying to achieve. Which is quite complex and I've
>> no doubt that more experienced people than me exist in this area! Help is
>> once again greatly appreciated!!!
>>
>> Background: I am dealing with dynamic objects (Nodes). Node's
>> appear/disappear at runtime and are encapsulated in a heirarchy of HashMap's
>> for JXPath's context bean. This works fantastic, but I have two remaining
>> mandatory requirements.
>>
>> Requirement 1: Listening
>> As a new node appears, listeners defined as expressions would like to know
>> about this. For example, someone would like to know if a Ferrari ever
>> appears in the context bean:  //c...@name="Ferrari"]
>> or /Transport/Vehicle/c...@name="Ferrari"]. I believe that I should be
>> testing is if the newly created/removed node/pointer is found in any of the
>> supplied listening expressions? Ideally this can be done by traversing the
>> minimal number of object's as possible - and could be too inefficient :'(
>> for use.
>>
>> Requirement 2: Filtering.
>> As a new node appear's I would like to know if I should include this node
>> in the context bean hierarchy (i.e. addNewChild()) or ignore it. The
>> criteria is if the new node is found using an expression (include or
>> exclude). For example, if we don't deal with China then we might have an
>> exclude expression /World/Asia/China or /World/Asia/*. Can I determine if
>> the new node is within an includes/excludes expression without having to add
>> the node to the context, then testing, then removing - becuase this has the
>> potential to falsly invoke listeners in Requirement #1
>>
>> I'd like to know if there is any helpful functionality within jxpath that I
>> am unaware of. I suspect there is
>>
>>
>> As usual... I'm incredibly thankful for any help I can get :)
>>
>>
>



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Re: [SCXML] Javascript as expression language

2009-04-27 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 12:45 AM, Roger Hoover  wrote:
> Hi Ingmar,
>
> Did this ever get released?
>


Not as part of Commons SCXML yet, which is the bit I'm more aware of.

-Rahul


> Thanks,
>
> Roger
>
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Rahul Akolkar wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Ingmar Kliche
>>  wrote:
>> > Hi Roger,
>> >
>> > yes, we have implemented it and plan to provide it to the project quite
>> > soon. But the licensing issue is a good point and should be clarified.
>> > Technically the implementation needs some final cleanup and things like
>> test
>> > cases. If you can wait another couple of weeks (due to holiday season) it
>> > should be available.
>> >
>> 
>>
>> Looking forward to it as well (that will reduce the min. JDK
>> requirement for using Rhino I presume).
>>
>> -Rahul
>>
>>
>>
>> > Regards,
>> > Ingmar.
>> >
>> > 2008/12/16 Roger Hoover 
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> Has anyone implemented Javascript as an expression language in SCXML
>> Common
>> >> with Rhino?  Would there be licensing issues with SCXML under Apache
>> >> license
>> >> and Rhino under MPL/GPL/LGPL triple license?
>> >>
>> >> If it can't be done as part of this project, how hard would it be to
>> >> implement externally and do others have interest in it?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>
>> >> Roger
>> >>
>> >
>>

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Re: [SCXML] getting set datats in the datamodel

2009-04-27 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Anna Södling  wrote:
> Hi,
> Is there anyone who has any idea what to do about this? Even a little
> hint would be appreciated, you don't have to solve the whole problem!
>


Reply inline below.


> /Linda
>
> <-Ursprungligt Meddelande->
> From: Linda Erlenhov [u...@commons.apache.org]
> Sent: 23/4/2009 2:30:58 PM
> To: Commons Users List
> Subject: Re: [SCXML] getting set datats in the datamodel
>
> Hello again!
> This seems to work, since we now can see that data has changed.
> Unfortunately, we seem to have missed out an important part of the
> question. In addition to being notified when a data value is set, we
> also would like to be able to "get/recieve" the new data value aswell as
> the
> name (in this case numdat) so that we can display it to the screen in
> our
> interface.
> And, in this example we only have one data value, NumDat. However, it
> is possible to define several data values insade the DynamicData-tag.
> Can we still just write  expr="DynamicData"/> after the first assign tag, or do we also have to
> define what data value has been changed?


You will find that as more and more of the application-specific
patterns (and requirements) emerge, it is convenient to encapsulate
these patterns as custom actions (perhaps a time to rethink the no
custom action constraint).

Without that, you could always store the name (lets call it 'delta',
which signifies that it identifies the change) in the root context,
update it with every assign as needed and look it up for your
notifications, so along these lines (continuing example from earlier
in this thread):



  

  

  

  
  
  
  
  
  

...
  

  ...



and the Context#set() method previously discussed would then change
along these lines:

  public void set(String name, Object value) {
 // inherit behavior
 super.set(name, value);
 // notifications you need
 // the second param is the new info needed
 notify(name, get("delta"), value);
  }

Now, OTOH, all of this can really be distilled into a compact custom
action such as:

  

whose implementation encapsulates the pattern of updates and
notifications as needed by the application and thereby leaves the
markup cleaner.

-Rahul


> Sincerely,
>
> Linda
>
>
>> 
>>
>> Yup, I see what you are running into. Unfortunately for the specific
>> usage pattern here, the two  variations have different
>> semantics as follows:
>>
>> 1) 
>> is a set operation, which produces a Context#set(...) call
>>
>> 2) 
>> is really a mutation operation, it retrieves the XML  tree
>> (stored as a DOM node in memory) and manipulates it -- there is no
>> call to Context#set(...)
>>
>>
>> >> How do I notify when my DynamicData has changed?
>> >>
>> 
>>
>> ISTR that you prefer to not use custom actions. With those
>> constraints, one option (since you are generating all the SCXML) is to
>> accomodate for the above variation via the SCXML markup itself -- so
>> you could generate a redundant identity assignment to trigger the
>> Context#set(...) call like so:
>>
>> 
>> > expr="Data(DynamicData,'NumDat')+1"/>
>> 
>> 
>>
>> -Rahul
>>
>

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Re: [SCXML] getting set datats in the datamodel

2009-04-27 Thread Anna Södling
Hi,
Is there anyone who has any idea what to do about this? Even a little
hint would be appreciated, you don't have to solve the whole problem!
 
/Linda

<-Ursprungligt Meddelande->
From: Linda Erlenhov [u...@commons.apache.org]
Sent: 23/4/2009 2:30:58 PM
To: Commons Users List
Subject: Re: [SCXML] getting set datats in the datamodel

Hello again!
This seems to work, since we now can see that data has changed.
Unfortunately, we seem to have missed out an important part of the
question. In addition to being notified when a data value is set, we
also would like to be able to "get/recieve" the new data value aswell as
the
name (in this case numdat) so that we can display it to the screen in
our
interface.
And, in this example we only have one data value, NumDat. However, it
is possible to define several data values insade the DynamicData-tag.
Can we still just write  after the first assign tag, or do we also have to
define what data value has been changed?
Sincerely,

Linda


> 
>
> Yup, I see what you are running into. Unfortunately for the specific
> usage pattern here, the two  variations have different
> semantics as follows:
>
> 1) 
> is a set operation, which produces a Context#set(...) call
>
> 2) 
> is really a mutation operation, it retrieves the XML  tree
> (stored as a DOM node in memory) and manipulates it -- there is no
> call to Context#set(...)
>
>
> >> How do I notify when my DynamicData has changed?
> >>
> 
>
> ISTR that you prefer to not use custom actions. With those
> constraints, one option (since you are generating all the SCXML) is to
> accomodate for the above variation via the SCXML markup itself -- so
> you could generate a redundant identity assignment to trigger the
> Context#set(...) call like so:
>
> 
>  expr="Data(DynamicData,'NumDat')+1"/>
> 
> 
>
> -Rahul
>



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Re: Status of Commons Compress

2009-04-27 Thread David Rosenstrauch

Christian Grobmeier wrote:

However, Compress hasn't been used much in production, so Ants code is
more tested.

Cheers,
Christian


Thanks much for the responses, guys.

As this needs to go into a pretty critical production system, it sounds 
like it's probably best to stick with Ant for now.


Thanks again,

DR

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Re: [JXPath] Questions about pointers, listeners & filters

2009-04-27 Thread Andrew Hughes
I think I have a solution for both based on JXPath.

Cheers && a HUGE thank's to JXPath && Matt.


On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Andrew Hughes  wrote:

> Hi All - probably just Matt tho   :)
> I've had some great results with JXPath, and I am now getting down to the
> nitty/gritty of what I am trying to achieve. Which is quite complex and I've
> no doubt that more experienced people than me exist in this area! Help is
> once again greatly appreciated!!!
>
> Background: I am dealing with dynamic objects (Nodes). Node's
> appear/disappear at runtime and are encapsulated in a heirarchy of HashMap's
> for JXPath's context bean. This works fantastic, but I have two remaining
> mandatory requirements.
>
> Requirement 1: Listening
> As a new node appears, listeners defined as expressions would like to know
> about this. For example, someone would like to know if a Ferrari ever
> appears in the context bean:  //c...@name="Ferrari"]
> or /Transport/Vehicle/c...@name="Ferrari"]. I believe that I should be
> testing is if the newly created/removed node/pointer is found in any of the
> supplied listening expressions? Ideally this can be done by traversing the
> minimal number of object's as possible - and could be too inefficient :'(
> for use.
>
> Requirement 2: Filtering.
> As a new node appear's I would like to know if I should include this node
> in the context bean hierarchy (i.e. addNewChild()) or ignore it. The
> criteria is if the new node is found using an expression (include or
> exclude). For example, if we don't deal with China then we might have an
> exclude expression /World/Asia/China or /World/Asia/*. Can I determine if
> the new node is within an includes/excludes expression without having to add
> the node to the context, then testing, then removing - becuase this has the
> potential to falsly invoke listeners in Requirement #1
>
> I'd like to know if there is any helpful functionality within jxpath that I
> am unaware of. I suspect there is
>
>
> As usual... I'm incredibly thankful for any help I can get :)
>
>