Re: Authorisation with Syncope 2.x
Fantastic answer, thanks Francesco !
De : Francesco Chicchiriccò
À : user@syncope.apache.org
Envoyé le : Vendredi 15 juillet 2016 18h07
Objet : Re: Authorisation with Syncope 2.x
On 15/07/2016 17:51, Adrian Gonzalez wrote:
Hi Francesco,
That's it exactly. I'm mapping syncope roles -> Spring GrantedAuthorities
for the moment to authorize users to my services APIs. Perhaps I should modify
it and used Syncope groups instead
Roles are used to define and enforce delegated administration for the Syncope
REST methods and admin console, they are not meant for external usage.
Waiting for the reference guide to be completed, you can find some notes about
the internal security model in Syncope 2.0 at
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SYNCOPE/%5BDISCUSS%5D+Realms#id-[DISCUSS]Realms-Newsecuritymodel
as the information you report below is instead applying to Syncope 1.X.
One day maybe Syncope will provide complete privilege management features, but
for the moment I would suggest you to:
A. In Syncope
1. define an enum multi-value schema on Syncope - say "privilege", where
possible values are all the privileges you want to manage - so "photo.read",
"photo.update", etc
2. assign such "privilege" schema to the GROUP type, via some any type class
3. create some groups, where you can set one or more privileges
4. assign users to groups
At this point, in your application Spring-Security classes, you can grant, to
a given user, all the authorities corresponding to the "privilege" values
owned by the groups such user is assigned to.
For example:
* if group G1 has privilege values ["photo.read"] and group G2 has privilege
values ["photo.create", "photo.update"]
* if user U1 is in G1 and user U2 is in G2
you can grant "photo.read" to U1 and "photo.read", "photo.create",
"photo.update" to U2
I hope it is clear.
Regards.
De : Francesco Chicchiriccò
À : user@syncope.apache.org
Envoyé le : Vendredi 15 juillet 2016 16h47
Objet : Re: Authorisation with Syncope 2.x
Hi Adrian,
I need to understand what is your use case.
It seems to me that you are attempting to use Syncope for privilege
management, e.g. you want to:
1. enlist application privileges into Syncope
2. associate such privileges with some Syncope entity (I'd say you're using
roles, but groups should be more appropriate in this case)
3. write your application(s) authentication / authorization logic so that it
depends on Syncope's REST services and data (and you're using Spring Security
for this purpose)
Is this correct?
On 12/07/2016 12:16, Adrian Gonzalez wrote:
Hi Fabio,
I was thinking about creating my own apps (let's say PhotoGalleryApp).
With a service like : @PreAuthorize("hasRole('photo.read')") public
Photo find(Long id) { ..bla
}
@PreAuthorize("hasRole('photo.update')") public Photo update(Photo
photo) { ..bla
}
}
This is really a basic sample (it won't be Cruds only). How can I customize
Syncope in order to have photo.read and photo.update for instance ?
Moreover, I'm not at ease if customisation requires code modification for
each new entitlement since I'm gonna have a lot of apps.
Thanks for your insights,
Adrian
De : Fabio Martelli
À : user@syncope.apache.org
Envoyé le : Mardi 12 juillet 2016 12h03
Objet : Re: Authorisation with Syncope 2.x
Il 11/07/2016 16:27, Adrian Gonzalez ha scritto:
Hello, Sorry once more :(
Hi Adrian, do not apologize.
Thank you, instead. Reporting and interaction in public ML is always welcome.
See below for my comments.
Best regards,
F.
I would like to use Syncope in my app (using Spring Security) for user
authentication and authorisation.
I would like to know if mapping GrantedAuthority to Syncope's role is the way
to go ? I'm a bit lost, since there's also the notion of entitlements and
groups.
In fact, when I look into syncope's code, I see :
@PreAuthorize("hasRole('" + StandardEntitlement.ROLE_CREATE + "')")
public RoleTO create(final RoleTO roleTO) {
So I would say I should use entitlements and not roles.
You have to use the entitlements.
You can assign entitlements to a user by assigning them to a role and a role
to the user: the user owning that role will own those entitlements.
This is the standard for Apache Syncope.
Therefore you can think to add your own authorization method for some
customizations. Please, if you will do in this way do it carefully.
But entitlement appears to be fixed (in StandardEntitlement class) and for
syncope 'internal'
Re: Authorisation with Syncope 2.x
On 15/07/2016 17:51, Adrian Gonzalez wrote:
Hi Francesco,
That's it exactly.
I'm mapping syncope roles -> Spring GrantedAuthorities for the moment
to authorize users to my services APIs.
Perhaps I should modify it and used Syncope groups instead
Roles are used to define and enforce delegated administration for the
Syncope REST methods and admin console, they are not meant for external
usage.
Waiting for the reference guide to be completed, you can find some notes
about the internal security model in Syncope 2.0 at
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SYNCOPE/%5BDISCUSS%5D+Realms#id-[DISCUSS]Realms-Newsecuritymodel
as the information you report below is instead applying to Syncope 1.X.
One day maybe Syncope will provide complete privilege management
features, but for the moment I would suggest you to:
A. In Syncope
1. define an enum multi-value schema on Syncope - say "privilege",
where possible values are all the privileges you want to manage - so
"photo.read", "photo.update", etc
2. assign such "privilege" schema to the GROUP type, via some any type
class
3. create some groups, where you can set one or more privileges
4. assign users to groups
At this point, in your application Spring-Security classes, you can
grant, to a given user, all the authorities corresponding to the
"privilege" values owned by the groups such user is assigned to.
For example:
* if group G1 has privilege values ["photo.read"] and group G2 has
privilege values ["photo.create", "photo.update"]
* if user U1 is in G1 and user U2 is in G2
you can grant "photo.read" to U1 and "photo.read", "photo.create",
"photo.update" to U2
I hope it is clear.
Regards.
*De :* Francesco Chicchiriccò
*À :* user@syncope.apache.org
*Envoyé le :* Vendredi 15 juillet 2016 16h47
*Objet :* Re: Authorisation with Syncope 2.x
Hi Adrian,
I need to understand what is your use case.
It seems to me that you are attempting to use Syncope for privilege
management, e.g. you want to:
1. enlist application privileges into Syncope
2. associate such privileges with some Syncope entity (I'd say you're
using roles, but groups should be more appropriate in this case)
3. write your application(s) authentication / authorization logic so
that it depends on Syncope's REST services and data (and you're using
Spring Security for this purpose)
Is this correct?
On 12/07/2016 12:16, Adrian Gonzalez wrote:
Hi Fabio,
I was thinking about creating my own apps (let's say PhotoGalleryApp).
With a service like :
@PreAuthorize("hasRole('photo.read')")
public Photo find(Long id) {
..bla
}
@PreAuthorize("hasRole('photo.update')")
public Photo update(Photo photo) {
..bla
}
}
This is really a basic sample (it won't be Cruds only).
How can I customize Syncope in order to have photo.read and
photo.update for instance ?
Moreover, I'm not at ease if customisation requires code modification
for each new entitlement since I'm gonna have a lot of apps.
Thanks for your insights,
Adrian
------------
*De :* Fabio Martelli
<mailto:fabio.marte...@gmail.com>
*À :* user@syncope.apache.org <mailto:user@syncope.apache.org>
*Envoyé le :* Mardi 12 juillet 2016 12h03
*Objet :* Re: Authorisation with Syncope 2.x
Il 11/07/2016 16:27, Adrian Gonzalez ha scritto:
Hello, Sorry once more :(
Hi Adrian, do not apologize.
Thank you, instead. Reporting and interaction in public ML is always
welcome.
See below for my comments.
Best regards,
F.
I would like to use Syncope in my app (using Spring Security) for
user authentication and authorisation.
I would like to know if mapping GrantedAuthority to Syncope's role
is the way to go ?
I'm a bit lost, since there's also the notion of entitlements and
groups.
In fact, when I look into syncope's code, I see :
@PreAuthorize("hasRole('" + StandardEntitlement.ROLE_CREATE + "')")
public RoleTO create(final RoleTO roleTO) {
So I would say I should use entitlements and not roles.
You have to use the entitlements.
You can assign entitlements to a user by assigning them to a role and
a role to the user: the user owning that role will own those
entitlements.
This is the standard for Apache Syncope.
Therefore you can think to add your own authorization method for some
customizations. Please, if you will do in this way do it carefully.
But entitlement appears to be fixed (in StandardEntitlement class)
and for syncope 'internal' use [1] and [2] (aka checking if user has
right to perform an action on syncope - and not checking if user has
right to peform action on what
Re: Authorisation with Syncope 2.x
Hi Francesco,
That's it exactly.I'm mapping syncope roles -> Spring GrantedAuthorities for
the moment to authorize users to my services APIs.Perhaps I should modify it
and used Syncope groups instead
Thanks !
De : Francesco Chicchiriccò
À : user@syncope.apache.org
Envoyé le : Vendredi 15 juillet 2016 16h47
Objet : Re: Authorisation with Syncope 2.x
Hi Adrian,
I need to understand what is your use case.
It seems to me that you are attempting to use Syncope for privilege
management, e.g. you want to:
1. enlist application privileges into Syncope
2. associate such privileges with some Syncope entity (I'd say you're using
roles, but groups should be more appropriate in this case)
3. write your application(s) authentication / authorization logic so that it
depends on Syncope's REST services and data (and you're using Spring Security
for this purpose)
Is this correct?
On 12/07/2016 12:16, Adrian Gonzalez wrote:
Hi Fabio,
I was thinking about creating my own apps (let's say PhotoGalleryApp).
With a service like : @PreAuthorize("hasRole('photo.read')") public
Photo find(Long id) { ..bla
}
@PreAuthorize("hasRole('photo.update')") public Photo update(Photo
photo) { ..bla
}
}
This is really a basic sample (it won't be Cruds only). How can I customize
Syncope in order to have photo.read and photo.update for instance ?
Moreover, I'm not at ease if customisation requires code modification for
each new entitlement since I'm gonna have a lot of apps.
Thanks for your insights,
Adrian
De : Fabio Martelli
À : user@syncope.apache.org
Envoyé le : Mardi 12 juillet 2016 12h03
Objet : Re: Authorisation with Syncope 2.x
Il 11/07/2016 16:27, Adrian Gonzalez ha scritto:
Hello, Sorry once more :(
Hi Adrian, do not apologize.
Thank you, instead. Reporting and interaction in public ML is always welcome.
See below for my comments.
Best regards,
F.
I would like to use Syncope in my app (using Spring Security) for user
authentication and authorisation.
I would like to know if mapping GrantedAuthority to Syncope's role is the way
to go ? I'm a bit lost, since there's also the notion of entitlements and
groups.
In fact, when I look into syncope's code, I see :
@PreAuthorize("hasRole('" + StandardEntitlement.ROLE_CREATE + "')")
public RoleTO create(final RoleTO roleTO) {
So I would say I should use entitlements and not roles.
You have to use the entitlements.
You can assign entitlements to a user by assigning them to a role and a role
to the user: the user owning that role will own those entitlements.
This is the standard for Apache Syncope.
Therefore you can think to add your own authorization method for some
customizations. Please, if you will do in this way do it carefully.
But entitlement appears to be fixed (in StandardEntitlement class) and for
syncope 'internal' use [1] and [2] (aka checking if user has right to perform
an action on syncope - and not checking if user has right to peform action on
whatever application).
Exactly! BTW you can perform some customization in order to extends the set of
entitlements in order to use them to authorize access to some custom rest
methods provided for your specific aims.
This customization is not simple but feasible if strongly required.
Thanks, Adrian
P.S. Using Syncope 2.0.0-M2
[1]
http://syncope-user.1051894.n5.nabble.com/Entitlements-how-do-we-create-change-these-tp5707009p5707010.html
entitlements are not meant to be extended: their primary purpose is to
define security constraints on RESTful methods.
[2]
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SYNCOPE/Authentication+and+authorization
--
Francesco Chicchiriccò
Tirasa - Open Source Excellence
http://www.tirasa.net/
Involved at The Apache Software Foundation:
member, Syncope PMC chair, Cocoon PMC, Olingo PMC,
CXF Committer, OpenJPA Committer, PonyMail PPMC
http://home.apache.org/~ilgrosso/
Re: Authorisation with Syncope 2.x
Hi Adrian,
I need to understand what is your use case.
It seems to me that you are attempting to use Syncope for privilege
management, e.g. you want to:
1. enlist application privileges into Syncope
2. associate such privileges with some Syncope entity (I'd say you're
using roles, but groups should be more appropriate in this case)
3. write your application(s) authentication / authorization logic so
that it depends on Syncope's REST services and data (and you're using
Spring Security for this purpose)
Is this correct?
On 12/07/2016 12:16, Adrian Gonzalez wrote:
Hi Fabio,
I was thinking about creating my own apps (let's say PhotoGalleryApp).
With a service like :
@PreAuthorize("hasRole('photo.read')")
public Photo find(Long id) {
..bla
}
@PreAuthorize("hasRole('photo.update')")
public Photo update(Photo photo) {
..bla
}
}
This is really a basic sample (it won't be Cruds only).
How can I customize Syncope in order to have photo.read and
photo.update for instance ?
Moreover, I'm not at ease if customisation requires code modification
for each new entitlement since I'm gonna have a lot of apps.
Thanks for your insights,
Adrian
*De :* Fabio Martelli
*À :* user@syncope.apache.org
*Envoyé le :* Mardi 12 juillet 2016 12h03
*Objet :* Re: Authorisation with Syncope 2.x
Il 11/07/2016 16:27, Adrian Gonzalez ha scritto:
Hello, Sorry once more :(
Hi Adrian, do not apologize.
Thank you, instead. Reporting and interaction in public ML is always
welcome.
See below for my comments.
Best regards,
F.
I would like to use Syncope in my app (using Spring Security) for
user authentication and authorisation.
I would like to know if mapping GrantedAuthority to Syncope's role is
the way to go ?
I'm a bit lost, since there's also the notion of entitlements and groups.
In fact, when I look into syncope's code, I see :
@PreAuthorize("hasRole('" + StandardEntitlement.ROLE_CREATE + "')")
public RoleTO create(final RoleTO roleTO) {
So I would say I should use entitlements and not roles.
You have to use the entitlements.
You can assign entitlements to a user by assigning them to a role and
a role to the user: the user owning that role will own those entitlements.
This is the standard for Apache Syncope.
Therefore you can think to add your own authorization method for some
customizations. Please, if you will do in this way do it carefully.
But entitlement appears to be fixed (in StandardEntitlement class)
and for syncope 'internal' use [1] and [2] (aka checking if user has
right to perform an action on syncope - and not checking if user has
right to peform action on whatever application).
Exactly! BTW you can perform some customization in order to extends
the set of entitlements in order to use them to authorize access to
some custom rest methods provided for your specific aims.
This customization is not simple but feasible if strongly required.
Thanks,
Adrian
P.S. Using Syncope 2.0.0-M2
[1]
http://syncope-user.1051894.n5.nabble.com/Entitlements-how-do-we-create-change-these-tp5707009p5707010.html
entitlements are not meant to be extended: their primary
purpose is to define security constraints on RESTful methods.
[2]
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SYNCOPE/Authentication+and+authorization
--
Francesco Chicchiriccò
Tirasa - Open Source Excellence
http://www.tirasa.net/
Involved at The Apache Software Foundation:
member, Syncope PMC chair, Cocoon PMC, Olingo PMC,
CXF Committer, OpenJPA Committer, PonyMail PPMC
http://home.apache.org/~ilgrosso/
Re: Authorisation with Syncope 2.x
Hi Fabio,
I was thinking about creating my own apps (let's say PhotoGalleryApp).
With a service like : @PreAuthorize("hasRole('photo.read')") public Photo
find(Long id) { ..bla
}
@PreAuthorize("hasRole('photo.update')") public Photo update(Photo
photo) { ..bla
}
}
This is really a basic sample (it won't be Cruds only).How can I customize
Syncope in order to have photo.read and photo.update for instance ?
Moreover, I'm not at ease if customisation requires code modification for each
new entitlement since I'm gonna have a lot of apps.
Thanks for your insights,
Adrian
De : Fabio Martelli
À : user@syncope.apache.org
Envoyé le : Mardi 12 juillet 2016 12h03
Objet : Re: Authorisation with Syncope 2.x
Il 11/07/2016 16:27, Adrian Gonzalez ha scritto:
Hello, Sorry once more :(
Hi Adrian, do not apologize.
Thank you, instead. Reporting and interaction in public ML is always welcome.
See below for my comments.
Best regards,
F.
I would like to use Syncope in my app (using Spring Security) for user
authentication and authorisation.
I would like to know if mapping GrantedAuthority to Syncope's role is the way
to go ? I'm a bit lost, since there's also the notion of entitlements and
groups.
In fact, when I look into syncope's code, I see :
@PreAuthorize("hasRole('" + StandardEntitlement.ROLE_CREATE + "')")
public RoleTO create(final RoleTO roleTO) {
So I would say I should use entitlements and not roles.
You have to use the entitlements.
You can assign entitlements to a user by assigning them to a role and a role
to the user: the user owning that role will own those entitlements.
This is the standard for Apache Syncope.
Therefore you can think to add your own authorization method for some
customizations. Please, if you will do in this way do it carefully.
But entitlement appears to be fixed (in StandardEntitlement class) and for
syncope 'internal' use [1] and [2] (aka checking if user has right to perform
an action on syncope - and not checking if user has right to peform action on
whatever application).
Exactly! BTW you can perform some customization in order to extends the set of
entitlements in order to use them to authorize access to some custom rest
methods provided for your specific aims.
This customization is not simple but feasible if strongly required.
Thanks, Adrian
P.S. Using Syncope 2.0.0-M2
[1]
http://syncope-user.1051894.n5.nabble.com/Entitlements-how-do-we-create-change-these-tp5707009p5707010.html
entitlements are not meant to be extended: their primary purpose is to
define security constraints on RESTful methods.
[2]
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SYNCOPE/Authentication+and+authorization
--
Fabio Martelli
Tirasa - Open Source Excellence
http://www.tirasa.net/
Apache Syncope PMC
http://people.apache.org/~fmartelli/
Re: Authorisation with Syncope 2.x
Il 11/07/2016 16:27, Adrian Gonzalez ha scritto:
Hello, Sorry once more :(
Hi Adrian, do not apologize.
Thank you, instead. Reporting and interaction in public ML is always
welcome.
See below for my comments.
Best regards,
F.
I would like to use Syncope in my app (using Spring Security) for user
authentication and authorisation.
I would like to know if mapping GrantedAuthority to Syncope's role is
the way to go ?
I'm a bit lost, since there's also the notion of entitlements and groups.
In fact, when I look into syncope's code, I see :
@PreAuthorize("hasRole('" + StandardEntitlement.ROLE_CREATE + "')")
public RoleTO create(final RoleTO roleTO) {
So I would say I should use entitlements and not roles.
You have to use the entitlements.
You can assign entitlements to a user by assigning them to a role and a
role to the user: the user owning that role will own those entitlements.
This is the standard for Apache Syncope.
Therefore you can think to add your own authorization method for some
customizations. Please, if you will do in this way do it carefully.
But entitlement appears to be fixed (in StandardEntitlement class) and
for syncope 'internal' use [1] and [2] (aka checking if user has right
to perform an action on syncope - and not checking if user has right
to peform action on whatever application).
Exactly! BTW you can perform some customization in order to extends the
set of entitlements in order to use them to authorize access to some
custom rest methods provided for your specific aims.
This customization is not simple but feasible if strongly required.
Thanks,
Adrian
P.S. Using Syncope 2.0.0-M2
[1]
http://syncope-user.1051894.n5.nabble.com/Entitlements-how-do-we-create-change-these-tp5707009p5707010.html
entitlements are not meant to be extended: their primary
purpose is to define security constraints on RESTful methods.
[2]
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SYNCOPE/Authentication+and+authorization
--
Fabio Martelli
Tirasa - Open Source Excellence
http://www.tirasa.net/
Apache Syncope PMC
http://people.apache.org/~fmartelli/
Authorisation with Syncope 2.x
Hello, Sorry once more :(
I would like to use Syncope in my app (using Spring Security) for user
authentication and authorisation.
I would like to know if mapping GrantedAuthority to Syncope's role is the way
to go ?I'm a bit lost, since there's also the notion of entitlements and groups.
In fact, when I look into syncope's code, I see : @PreAuthorize("hasRole('"
+ StandardEntitlement.ROLE_CREATE + "')")
public RoleTO create(final RoleTO roleTO) {
So I would say I should use entitlements and not roles.But entitlement appears
to be fixed (in StandardEntitlement class) and for syncope 'internal' use [1]
and [2] (aka checking if user has right to perform an action on syncope - and
not checking if user has right to peform action on whatever application).
Thanks,Adrian
P.S. Using Syncope 2.0.0-M2
[1]
http://syncope-user.1051894.n5.nabble.com/Entitlements-how-do-we-create-change-these-tp5707009p5707010.htmlentitlements
are not meant to be extended: their primary purpose is to define security
constraints on RESTful methods.
[2]
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SYNCOPE/Authentication+and+authorization
