Re: kde-desktop crashes after update / NetworkManager

2011-06-25 Thread Anoop
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Genes MailLists li...@sapience.com wrote:
 On 06/24/2011 11:55 PM, Genes MailLists wrote:
 Best I can tell it is network manager - as soon as it starts  - kde
 desktop crashes and goes away .. yikes!


  downgrading NetworkManager gets thing working again ... nm is
 complaining bitterly in /var/log/messages ...
I hit same issue today. Then updated 'kde-plasma-networkmanagement'
from 'updates-testing' and the issue went away.

Thanks,
Anoop
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Re: Automatic notification of updates.

2011-06-25 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 15:18:01 -0500, AK (Aaron) wrote:

 I know this was asked but I don't remember an answer. What program in
 F14 cause that orange sun symbol to tell you updates are available but
 is not working in F15?
 
 I thought it was PackageKit but looking at its  web page I see that
 thats not it. Can this automatic update notification be done in F15 and
 what program does it?

It is working, but the default notification interval has been changed
to weekly. Unless it's for security updates or so. And without proper
documentation about how exactly the various configuration values are
used, it doesn't become clear when it's working. For example, for me
the graphical configuration dialog said hourly, but it doesn't let one
change the notification interval. I've changed several of the values
at the command-line after getting the list with

$ gsettings list-keys org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.updates
[...]

The Missing PackageKit notification in GNOME Shell thread on test list
(May 25) also gives a bit of background.
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Re: where is gnomebreakpad

2011-06-25 Thread François Patte
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Le 24/06/2011 10:36, Ed Greshko a écrit :
 On 06/24/2011 02:57 PM, François Patte wrote:
 When launching evince, I get this warning:

 Gtk-Message: Failed to load module gnomebreakpad: libgnomebreakpad.so


 Where to find this module?


 
 What version of Fedora and evince are you using? 

evince-2.32.0-4.fc14.i686


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Re: where is gnomebreakpad

2011-06-25 Thread Ed Greshko
François Patte francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr wrote:


evince-2.32.0-4.fc14.i686

OK, F14.  I don't have that running, but what does

you whatprovides */libgnomebreakpad.so

return?



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Re: where is gnomebreakpad

2011-06-25 Thread Ed Greshko
Of course i meant yum Spell check strikes again.

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Re: gnome 3 doesn't start any more

2011-06-25 Thread Antonio Olivares


--- On Fri, 6/24/11, Genes MailLists li...@sapience.com wrote:

 From: Genes MailLists li...@sapience.com
 Subject: Re: gnome 3 doesn't start any more
 To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org
 Date: Friday, June 24, 2011, 12:01 PM
 On 06/24/2011 02:57 PM, antonio
 montagnani wrote:
  dexter ha scritto / said the following    il
 giorno/on 24/06/2011 20:48:
  On 24 June 2011 18:19, antonio montagnaniantonio.montagn...@alice.it 
 wrote:
  Any update to be removed??
  Yeah GNOME 3
  lulz sorry couldnt resist
 
  ...dex
  no, sorry, some update broke the sytem, i.e xulrunner
 that I installed 
  from updates-testing (and has beenpushed to stable a
 fw minutes ago): 
  furthermore Firefox and xulrunner from RemiCollet was
 fine.
  
  Somethingis wrong in update procedure, my 2 cents
  
 
 
   Please BZ this ... it seems to work for some ... so
 knowing what you
 have may help track down the problem.
 
 
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I had updated two machines and they worked.  However, updating a third machine 
I got a problem too! :(  NetworkManager also acts up :(  Wireless not working 
and wired connection either, might have to revert to 2.6.38.7 instead of the 
2.6.38.8-22 kernel which might have something to do with it?  Don't know which 
package(s) to downgrade :(

Regards,

Antonio 
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Difficult upgrade F-14 to F-15

2011-06-25 Thread Timothy Murphy
I had a bad experience upgrading F-14/KDE to F-15.

I upgraded from the F-15 DVD ISO, by NFS from another machine,
after abstracting isolinux/vmlinuz and isolinux/initrd.img
and transferring them to /boot on the target machine, a Thinkpad T43,
and writing a trivial stanza in /etc/grub.conf on this machine
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Fedora-15 install
root (hd0,2)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz askmethod
initrd /boot/initrd.img
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On re-booting into this, all went well;
the ISO was found, and after choosing to upgrade the F-14 system
about 1,600 packages were updated remarkably quickly - about an hour.

But then when I re-booted my problems began.
Firstly, the screen was so bright I was frightened something might blow.
There were random colours and broken images on the screen,
and finally I got the error message
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  devices..ee 'systemct; status kdump/service' for details.
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I found that Alt-F2 gave me a text login,
so I edited the stanza in /etc/grub.conf created by the installation,
replacing rhgb quiet in the kernel line by text.

Now when I re-booted I got a text login.
On running sudo yum update,
I was told there were 1.1GB worth of packages to update.
The update failed with a number of errors, which I did not pursue.
I guess I should have run sudo yum --skip-broken update.
Instead I updated in a number of steps, like sudo yum update k*.
This seemed to avoid most of the errors;
the only recurring problem was with gthumb, which I yum-removed
and later re-installed.

After this I ran startx and a KDE screen came up.
So I deleted the text in the grub kernel line, and re-booted.

This brought up a proper KDE screen,
but several of the KDE programs ran strangely.
In particular, on choosing konsole from the f-menu
a page-size window opened, and then shrank rapidly
until it was about 3 lines deep, and a quarter of the screen wide.
(I've never seen this before.)
On enlarging the window by moving the mouse on the perimeter,
I found that I could not input into the window.

Finally, I deleted ~/.kde and started again,
and at last I got a proper Fedora/KDE setup.

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Re: where is gnomebreakpad

2011-06-25 Thread François Patte
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Le 25/06/2011 11:48, Ed Greshko a écrit :
 François Patte francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr wrote:
 
 evince-2.32.0-4.fc14.i686
 
 OK, F14.  I don't have that running, but what does
 
 you whatprovides */libgnomebreakpad.so

Not match!

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Re: where is gnomebreakpad

2011-06-25 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/25/2011 06:55 PM, François Patte wrote:
 Le 25/06/2011 11:48, Ed Greshko a écrit :
  François Patte francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr wrote:

  evince-2.32.0-4.fc14.i686

  OK, F14.  I don't have that running, but what does

  you whatprovides */libgnomebreakpad.so

 Not match!


I sort of that that would be the case  Having done a google search
of your problem only turned up results from the Fedora 8 days...or there
about.

I assume that when you do which evince you get /usr/bin/evince.

And if you do ldd /usr/bin/evince libgnomebreakpad.so is in the result?
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Re: Firefox 3.6.18 (CVE-2011-0083, CVE-2011-0085, CVE-2011-2363)

2011-06-25 Thread Christoph A.
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https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/xulrunner-1.9.2.18-1.fc14,firefox-3.6.18-1.fc14,mozvoikko-1.0-22.fc14.1,perl-Gtk2-MozEmbed-0.08-6.fc14.27,gnome-web-photo-0.9-21.fc14.1,galeon-2.0.7-41.fc14.1,gnome-python2-extras-2.25.3-31.fc14.1,thunderbird-3.1.11-1.fc14

give the update some karma points if you are running it without problems
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Re: Firefox 3.6.18 (CVE-2011-0083, CVE-2011-0085, CVE-2011-2363)

2011-06-25 Thread Richard Shaw
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 6:34 AM, Christoph A. cas...@gmail.com wrote:
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 give the update some karma points if you are running it without problems

Installing now...

Richard
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weird firefox5 behaviour in each firefox's window title bar (F15)

2011-06-25 Thread Joachim Backes
Somebody has already seen this? In each firefox-5 window's titlebar, the
title text ends with the character for not representable characters.
This independent from the desktop variant used (appears in gnome3,
xfce,...).

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Re: Trash bin is not found in F15

2011-06-25 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sat, 2011-06-25 at 01:41 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
 On 06/25/2011 01:41 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
  I am sure Rahul knows what he is taking about but I could swear that I
  had icons for computer, home and trash before I installed
  gnome-tweak-tool.
 
  Was I hallucinating? Or things are just going to fast for me.
 
 I am not infallible and have made mistakes but I am pretty sure you are
 misremembering here.  Easy enough to verify the defaults if you want to.
 Create another user.  Login and check
 
 Rahul
 

Well you are right as I expected you to be. I did not think of creating
a new user to test your thesis. But I noticed that the Trash folder is
available through the Files option in the list of favorites which was
what the OP wanted to know, i.e., how to find the Trash folder.
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[Fwd: Re: Trash bin is not found in F15]

2011-06-25 Thread Aaron Konstam

  
 
 Well you are right as I expected you to be. I did not think of creating
 a new user to test your thesis. But I noticed that the Trash folder is
 available through the Files option in the list of favorites which was
 what the OP wanted to know, i.e., how to find the Trash folder.

Well I have to eat crow again. Rahul, you told the OP that he could find
the Trash bin by using the nautilus file-manager.
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Re: Fedora 13 End of Life - STILL can't update to F15

2011-06-25 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 14:19:58 +1100
Philip Rhoades p...@pricom.com.au wrote:

...snip...

 - init 5 - Fails with /dev/fb0 does not exist errors (it does 
 exist) - the same problem as the previous versions.

Thats actually a cosmetic thing and not the real error. ;) 

 I want to try F15 on this machine (it currently runs F13) because F14 
 had a problem with a slow, sluggish mouse but I am not having much 
 success with F15 either so far . .
 
 Xorg.0.log attached and any suggestions about fixes or debugging 
 appreciated . .

Do you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf file? whats in it? 
If you move it away does it start working? 

Also, yeah, knowing the card would be helpful: 

lspci | grep -i vga 

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Re: weird firefox5 behaviour in each firefox's window title bar (F15)

2011-06-25 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 14:46:03 +0200
Joachim Backes joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de wrote:

 Somebody has already seen this? In each firefox-5 window's titlebar,
 the title text ends with the character for not representable
 characters. This independent from the desktop variant used (appears
 in gnome3, xfce,...).

Yep. Already fixed in an update thats pending for stable updates
already: 

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/firefox-5.0-2.fc15

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Re: weird firefox5 behaviour in each firefox's window title bar (F15)

2011-06-25 Thread Joachim Backes
On 06/25/2011 03:11 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
 On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 14:46:03 +0200
 Joachim Backes joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de wrote:
 
 Somebody has already seen this? In each firefox-5 window's titlebar,
 the title text ends with the character for not representable
 characters. This independent from the desktop variant used (appears
 in gnome3, xfce,...).
 
 Yep. Already fixed in an update thats pending for stable updates
 already: 
 
 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/firefox-5.0-2.fc15
 
 kevin

Thank you. Indeed seems to be solved by firefox-5.0-2.fc15.

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AR9280 won't initialize

2011-06-25 Thread Misha Shnurapet
Hi.

I have a little problem. I replaced the old BCM4312 card on my Dell mini 1011 
(10v) with:
03:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR928X Wireless Network 
Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)

But it won't work.

First it crashed Linux:
http://pastebin.com/YmEGcPK8

Then I installed a system update:
http://funkyimg.com/u2/879/849/2.png
http://pastebin.com/hWG6u7VJ

And now it is:

[   30.589243] ath9k :03:00.0: PCI INT A - GSI 17 (level, low) - IRQ 17
[   30.589269] ath9k :03:00.0: setting latency timer to 64
[   30.594884] ath: address test failed addr: 0x8000 - wr:0x != 
rd:0x2aaa
[   30.594898] ath: Unable to initialize hardware; initialization status: -19
[   30.594913] ath9k :03:00.0: Failed to initialize device
[   30.594991] ath9k :03:00.0: PCI INT A disabled

lsusb:
http://pastebin.com/JHYZiDhr

Installing the latest stable compat-wireless from source didn't help (bleeding 
edge won't build).

I would appreciate if you help me.

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Fwd: AR9280 won't initialize

2011-06-25 Thread Misha Shnurapet
Sorry, here's the full info.

I replaced the old BCM4312 card on my Dell mini 1011 (10v) with:
03:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR928X Wireless Network 
Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)

First, ABRT caught a crash:
architecture:   i686
cmdline:ro root=UUID=ea0937eb-db45-4751-855c-73da5da99448 rd_NO_LUKS 
rd_NO_LVM rd_NO_MD rd_NO_DM LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 
KEYTABLE=us rhgb quiet
component:  kernel
kernel: 2.6.38.8-32.fc15.i686
kernel_tainted: 512
os_release: Fedora release 15 (Lovelock)
package:kernel
reason: WARNING: at drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath9k/hw.c:2242 
ath9k_hw_gettsf64+0x75/0x79 [ath9k_hw]()
time:   Sat Jun 25 13:30:20 2011

backtrace:
:WARNING: at drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath9k/hw.c:2242 
ath9k_hw_gettsf64+0x75/0x79 [ath9k_hw]()
:Hardware name: Inspiron 1011
:Modules linked in: fuse cpufreq_ondemand 8021q garp stp llc acpi_cpufreq mperf 
ip6t_REJECT nf_conntrack_ipv6 nf_defrag_ipv6 ip6table_filter ip6_tables arc4 
ath9k mac80211 snd_hda_codec_realtek snd_hda_intel ath9k_common ath9k_hw 
snd_hda_codec ath snd_hwdep cfg80211 snd_seq snd_seq_device dell_laptop 
uvcvideo compal_laptop dcdbas microcode snd_pcm videodev r8169 joydev rfkill 
mii snd_timer iTCO_wdt iTCO_vendor_support i2c_i801 snd soundcore 
snd_page_alloc ipv6 uas usb_storage i915 drm_kms_helper drm i2c_algo_bit 
i2c_core video [last unloaded: scsi_wait_scan]
:Pid: 0, comm: swapper Tainted: GW   2.6.38.8-32.fc15.i686 #1
:Call Trace:
: [c07ced36] ? printk+0x2d/0x2f
: [c043aad9] warn_slowpath_common+0x7c/0x91
: [f889c22e] ? ath9k_hw_gettsf64+0x75/0x79 [ath9k_hw]
: [f889c22e] ? ath9k_hw_gettsf64+0x75/0x79 [ath9k_hw]
: [c043ab10] warn_slowpath_null+0x22/0x24
: [f889c22e] ath9k_hw_gettsf64+0x75/0x79 [ath9k_hw]
: [f930411b] ath_rx_tasklet+0x85/0x1190 [ath9k]
: [c073c342] ? netif_receive_skb+0x62/0x68
: [c04d68aa] ? add_partial+0x34/0x3b
: [c04d68aa] ? add_partial+0x34/0x3b
: [c07d1268] ? __slab_free+0x55/0xa2
: [c04621d0] ? arch_local_irq_save+0x12/0x17
: [f93005c6] ? ath9k_ioread32+0x54/0x5e [ath9k]
: [f9302aeb] ath9k_tasklet+0x95/0x102 [ath9k]
: [c043f545] tasklet_action+0x6a/0xae
: [c043fdc4] __do_softirq+0xa9/0x163
: [c043fd1b] ? __do_softirq+0x0/0x163
: IRQ  [c043ff17] ? irq_exit+0x3c/0x70
: [c0404bff] ? do_IRQ+0x7e/0x92
: [c0403770] ? common_interrupt+0x30/0x38
: [c04300e0] ? __sched_setscheduler+0x212/0x2fa
: [c060be15] ? intel_idle+0xc0/0xe7
: [c0712ff8] ? cpuidle_idle_call+0xc5/0x136
: [c0401fa0] ? cpu_idle+0x8e/0xa8
: [c07baa15] ? rest_init+0x5d/0x5f
: [c0a59816] ? start_kernel+0x357/0x35d
: [c0a5920c] ? unknown_bootoption+0x0/0x19e
: [c0a590d6] ? i386_start_kernel+0xd6/0xdc

event_log:
:2011-06-25-13:31:21 Submitting oops report to 
http://submit.kerneloops.org/submitoops.php
:2011-06-25-13:31:22  Kernel oops report was uploaded
:2011-06-25-13:31:22 Logging into Bugzilla at https://bugzilla.redhat.com
:2011-06-25-13:31:24  Checking for duplicates
:2011-06-25-13:31:30  Bug is already reported: 716585
:2011-06-25-13:31:30  Logging out
:2011-06-25-13:31:32  Status: NEW 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=716585

reported_to:
:kerneloops: URL=http://submit.kerneloops.org/submitoops.php
:Bugzilla: URL=https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=716585

END:

I reported it to the ath9k-devel mailing list.

Then I installed a big system update:
http://funkyimg.com/u2/879/849/2.png

[misha@mini ~]$ ls /etc/yum.repos.d/
atrpms.repo  google-chrome.repo   
rpmfusion-free-updates-testing.repo
fedora-rawhide.repo  infinality.repo  
rpmfusion-nonfree-rawhide.repo
fedora.repo  rpmfusion-free-rawhide.repo  rpmfusion-nonfree.repo
fedora-updates.repo  rpmfusion-free.repo  
rpmfusion-nonfree-updates.repo
fedora-updates-testing.repo  rpmfusion-free-updates.repo  
rpmfusion-nonfree-updates-testing.repo

And now I see in dmesg:

[   30.589243] ath9k :03:00.0: PCI INT A - GSI 17 (level, low) - IRQ 17
[   30.589269] ath9k :03:00.0: setting latency timer to 64
[   30.594884] ath: address test failed addr: 0x8000 - wr:0x != 
rd:0x2aaa
[   30.594898] ath: Unable to initialize hardware; initialization status: -19
[   30.594913] ath9k :03:00.0: Failed to initialize device
[   30.594991] ath9k :03:00.0: PCI INT A disabled

[misha@mini ~]$ lsusb -vv

Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Couldn't open device, some information will be missing
Device Descriptor:
  bLength18
  bDescriptorType 1
  bcdUSB   2.00
  bDeviceClass9 Hub
  bDeviceSubClass 0 Unused
  bDeviceProtocol 0 Full speed (or root) hub
  bMaxPacketSize064
  idVendor   0x1d6b Linux Foundation
  idProduct  0x0002 2.0 root hub
  bcdDevice2.06
  iManufacturer   3 
  iProduct2 
  iSerial 1 
  bNumConfigurations  1
  

Re: AR9280 won't initialize

2011-06-25 Thread JD
On 06/25/2011 07:08 AM, Misha Shnurapet wrote:
 [   30.589243] ath9k :03:00.0: PCI INT A -  GSI 17 (level, low) -  IRQ 
 17
 [   30.589269] ath9k :03:00.0: setting latency timer to 64
 [   30.594884] ath: address test failed addr: 0x8000 - wr:0x != 
 rd:0x2aaa
 [   30.594898] ath: Unable to initialize hardware; initialization status: -19
 [   30.594913] ath9k :03:00.0: Failed to initialize device
 [   30.594991] ath9k :03:00.0: PCI INT A disabled
I would open a bug at http://bugzilla.kernel.org
Be sure to show your kernel version and attach
the stack backtrace.
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Re: Fwd: AR9280 won't initialize

2011-06-25 Thread JD
On 06/25/2011 07:35 AM, Misha Shnurapet wrote:
 Sorry, here's the full info.

 I replaced the old BCM4312 card on my Dell mini 1011 (10v) with:
 03:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR928X Wireless 
 Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)

 First, ABRT caught a crash:
 architecture:   i686
 cmdline:ro root=UUID=ea0937eb-db45-4751-855c-73da5da99448 rd_NO_LUKS 
 rd_NO_LVM rd_NO_MD rd_NO_DM LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 
 KEYTABLE=us rhgb quiet
 component:  kernel
 kernel: 2.6.38.8-32.fc15.i686
 kernel_tainted: 512
 os_release: Fedora release 15 (Lovelock)
 package:kernel
 reason: WARNING: at drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath9k/hw.c:2242 
 ath9k_hw_gettsf64+0x75/0x79 [ath9k_hw]()
 time:   Sat Jun 25 13:30:20 2011

 backtrace:
 :WARNING: at drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath9k/hw.c:2242 
 ath9k_hw_gettsf64+0x75/0x79 [ath9k_hw]()
 :Hardware name: Inspiron 1011
 :Modules linked in: fuse cpufreq_ondemand 8021q garp stp llc acpi_cpufreq 
 mperf ip6t_REJECT nf_conntrack_ipv6 nf_defrag_ipv6 ip6table_filter ip6_tables 
 arc4 ath9k mac80211 snd_hda_codec_realtek snd_hda_intel ath9k_common ath9k_hw 
 snd_hda_codec ath snd_hwdep cfg80211 snd_seq snd_seq_device dell_laptop 
 uvcvideo compal_laptop dcdbas microcode snd_pcm videodev r8169 joydev rfkill 
 mii snd_timer iTCO_wdt iTCO_vendor_support i2c_i801 snd soundcore 
 snd_page_alloc ipv6 uas usb_storage i915 drm_kms_helper drm i2c_algo_bit 
 i2c_core video [last unloaded: scsi_wait_scan]
 :Pid: 0, comm: swapper Tainted: GW   2.6.38.8-32.fc15.i686 #1
 :Call Trace:
 : [c07ced36] ? printk+0x2d/0x2f
 : [c043aad9] warn_slowpath_common+0x7c/0x91
 : [f889c22e] ? ath9k_hw_gettsf64+0x75/0x79 [ath9k_hw]
 : [f889c22e] ? ath9k_hw_gettsf64+0x75/0x79 [ath9k_hw]
 : [c043ab10] warn_slowpath_null+0x22/0x24
 : [f889c22e] ath9k_hw_gettsf64+0x75/0x79 [ath9k_hw]
 : [f930411b] ath_rx_tasklet+0x85/0x1190 [ath9k]
 : [c073c342] ? netif_receive_skb+0x62/0x68
 : [c04d68aa] ? add_partial+0x34/0x3b
 : [c04d68aa] ? add_partial+0x34/0x3b
 : [c07d1268] ? __slab_free+0x55/0xa2
 : [c04621d0] ? arch_local_irq_save+0x12/0x17
 : [f93005c6] ? ath9k_ioread32+0x54/0x5e [ath9k]
 : [f9302aeb] ath9k_tasklet+0x95/0x102 [ath9k]
 : [c043f545] tasklet_action+0x6a/0xae
 : [c043fdc4] __do_softirq+0xa9/0x163
 : [c043fd1b] ? __do_softirq+0x0/0x163
 :IRQ   [c043ff17] ? irq_exit+0x3c/0x70
 : [c0404bff] ? do_IRQ+0x7e/0x92
 : [c0403770] ? common_interrupt+0x30/0x38
 : [c04300e0] ? __sched_setscheduler+0x212/0x2fa
 : [c060be15] ? intel_idle+0xc0/0xe7
 : [c0712ff8] ? cpuidle_idle_call+0xc5/0x136
 : [c0401fa0] ? cpu_idle+0x8e/0xa8
 : [c07baa15] ? rest_init+0x5d/0x5f
 : [c0a59816] ? start_kernel+0x357/0x35d
 : [c0a5920c] ? unknown_bootoption+0x0/0x19e
 : [c0a590d6] ? i386_start_kernel+0xd6/0xdc

 event_log:
 :2011-06-25-13:31:21  Submitting oops report to 
 http://submit.kerneloops.org/submitoops.php
 :2011-06-25-13:31:22  Kernel oops report was uploaded
 :2011-06-25-13:31:22  Logging into Bugzilla at https://bugzilla.redhat.com
 :2011-06-25-13:31:24  Checking for duplicates
 :2011-06-25-13:31:30  Bug is already reported: 716585
 :2011-06-25-13:31:30  Logging out
 :2011-06-25-13:31:32  Status: NEW 
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=716585

 reported_to:
 :kerneloops: URL=http://submit.kerneloops.org/submitoops.php
 :Bugzilla: URL=https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=716585

 END:

 I reported it to the ath9k-devel mailing list.

 Then I installed a big system update:
 http://funkyimg.com/u2/879/849/2.png

 [misha@mini ~]$ ls /etc/yum.repos.d/
 atrpms.repo  google-chrome.repo   
 rpmfusion-free-updates-testing.repo
 fedora-rawhide.repo  infinality.repo  
 rpmfusion-nonfree-rawhide.repo
 fedora.repo  rpmfusion-free-rawhide.repo  
 rpmfusion-nonfree.repo
 fedora-updates.repo  rpmfusion-free.repo  
 rpmfusion-nonfree-updates.repo
 fedora-updates-testing.repo  rpmfusion-free-updates.repo  
 rpmfusion-nonfree-updates-testing.repo

 And now I see in dmesg:

 [   30.589243] ath9k :03:00.0: PCI INT A -  GSI 17 (level, low) -  IRQ 
 17
 [   30.589269] ath9k :03:00.0: setting latency timer to 64
 [   30.594884] ath: address test failed addr: 0x8000 - wr:0x != 
 rd:0x2aaa
 [   30.594898] ath: Unable to initialize hardware; initialization status: -19
 [   30.594913] ath9k :03:00.0: Failed to initialize device
 [   30.594991] ath9k :03:00.0: PCI INT A disabled

 [misha@mini ~]$ lsusb -vv

 Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
 Couldn't open device, some information will be missing
 Device Descriptor:
bLength18
bDescriptorType 1
bcdUSB   2.00
bDeviceClass9 Hub
bDeviceSubClass 0 Unused
bDeviceProtocol 0 Full speed (or root) hub
bMaxPacketSize064
idVendor   0x1d6b Linux Foundation
idProduct  

Re: kde-desktop crashes after update / NetworkManager

2011-06-25 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/25/2011 12:58 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
 On 06/25/2011 12:11 PM, Genes MailLists wrote:
 On 06/24/2011 11:55 PM, Genes MailLists wrote:
 Best I can tell it is network manager - as soon as it starts  - kde
 desktop crashes and goes away .. yikes!

  downgrading NetworkManager gets thing working again ... nm is
 complaining bitterly in /var/log/messages ...
 
 FWIW, I just fully updated my F15/32bit system.  No problems...  Decided
 to reboot, on the off chance that is what you did but didn't mention
 it...  Still no problems  Yes, I'm a KDE user
 
 If nm is bitterly complaining in /var/log/messages you may want to
 actually post what those messages are so folks can see them an
 potentially help you?


 I see this - but I am not convinced now which NetworkManager generated
these .. so this could be not useful:



Jun 24 19:45:36 lap3 NetworkManager[1957]: warn caught signal 11.
Generating backtrace...
Jun 24 19:45:36 lap3 NetworkManager: *** START
**
Jun 24 19:45:36 lap3 ntpd[912]: Listen normally on 6 wlan0 10.164.28.77
UDP 123
Jun 24 19:45:36 lap3 ntpd[912]: peers refreshed
Jun 24 19:45:36 lap3 NetworkManager: [Thread debugging using
libthread_db enabled]
Jun 24 19:45:36 lap3 NetworkManager: [New Thread 0x7f2a154ad700 (LWP 2026)]
Jun 24 19:45:36 lap3 NetworkManager: [New Thread 0x7f2a15cae700 (LWP 1958)]
Jun 24 19:45:36 lap3 NetworkManager: 0x7f2a171a0a8d in waitpid ()
from /lib64/libpthread.so.0
Jun 24 19:45:36 lap3 NetworkManager: #0  0x7f2a171a0a8d in waitpid
() from /lib64/libpthread.so.0
Jun 24 19:45:36 lap3 NetworkManager: #1  0x0045d7e3 in
nm_logging_backtrace ()
Jun 24 19:45:36 lap3 NetworkManager: #2  0x00444f71 in ?? ()
Jun 24 19:45:36 lap3 NetworkManager: #3  signal handler called
Jun 24 19:45:36 lap3 NetworkManager: #4  0x0048930f in
nm_settings_connection_add_seen_bssid ()
Jun 24 19:45:36 lap3 NetworkManager: #5  0x00434d89 in ?? ()
Jun 24 19:45:36 lap3 NetworkManager: #6  0x00384620e34e in
g_closure_invoke () from /lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.
0
Jun 24 19:45:36 lap3 NetworkManager: #7  0x00384621f200 in ?? ()
from /lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0
Jun 24 19:45:36 lap3 NetworkManager: #8  0x0038462289d2 in
g_signal_emit_valist () from /lib64/libgobject-2.0
.so.0
Jun 24 19:45:36 lap3 NetworkManager: #9  0x003846228d5d in
g_signal_emit_by_name () from /lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0
Jun 24 19:45:36 lap3 NetworkManager: #10 0x0042568a in
nm_device_state_changed ()
Jun 24 19:45:36 lap3 NetworkManager: #11 0x00425d74 in ?? ()
Jun 24 19:45:36 lap3 NetworkManager: #12 0x0038426427ed in
g_main_context_dispatch () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
Jun 24 19:45:36 lap3 NetworkManager: #13 0x003842642fc8 in ?? ()
from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
Jun 24 19:45:36 lap3 NetworkManager: #14 0x00384264360d in
g_main_loop_run () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
Jun 24 19:45:36 lap3 NetworkManager: #15 0x0042017c in main ()
Jun 24 19:45:36 lap3 NetworkManager:
Jun 24 19:45:36 lap3 NetworkManager: Thread 3 (Thread 0x7f2a15cae700
(LWP 1958)):
Jun 24 19:45:36 lap3 NetworkManager: #0  0x7f2a168404f3 in poll ()
from /lib64/libc.so.6
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Re: gnome 3 doesn't start any more

2011-06-25 Thread dexter
On 24 June 2011 23:18, Gary Waters linuxnuts...@videotron.ca wrote:
 On 06/24/2011 02:48 PM, dexter wrote:
 On 24 June 2011 18:19, antonio montagnaniantonio.montagn...@alice.it  
 wrote:
 Any update to be removed??

 Yeah GNOME 3
 lulz sorry couldnt resist

 ...dex

  LOL! Oh God I spit pepsi into my monitor and laughed so hard my wife
 came running to see if I'd gone bonkers.

 The worst part is that I tried hard today to spend some time in gnome 3
 and ended up tucking tail and running back to XFCE.

 GW

No no NO dont laugh/choke that was sick kde user humour and I shouldnt
have eva said it I deeply regret it honest :-)
looks like GNOME 3 was never meant for u anyway see this recent blog post[1]
I predict in 18 months to 2 years you'll be where gnome 2 is today and
be back with a kickass desktop you can actually use till then twiddle
your thumbs.

...dex
[1] 
http://www.christoph-wickert.de/blog/2011/06/25/gnome-developer-qoute-of-the-day/
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Enable Delete key in Nautilus

2011-06-25 Thread Steven Stern
How can I tweak Nautilus so the delete key moves files to trash?


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Re: gnome 3 doesn't start any more

2011-06-25 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Please test and provide feedback: 

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gnome-shell-3.0.2-4.fc15

This seems to have affected nvidia binary only video driver users. 

kevin


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Re: gnome 3 doesn't start any more

2011-06-25 Thread Misha Shnurapet
26.06.2011, 01:15, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com:
 Please test and provide feedback:

 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gnome-shell-3.0.2-4.fc15

 This seems to have affected nvidia binary only video driver users.

 kevin

I confirm. I use the driver on my desktop computer and today's update brought a 
little mess upon it.

First I thought it was the gnome-shell or clutter update, but it worked when I 
deleted the driver and returned to Nouveau.

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Re: kde-desktop crashes after update / NetworkManager

2011-06-25 Thread Antonio Olivares

--- On Fri, 6/24/11, Genes MailLists li...@sapience.com wrote:

 From: Genes MailLists li...@sapience.com
 Subject: Re: kde-desktop crashes after update / NetworkManager
 To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org
 Date: Friday, June 24, 2011, 9:11 PM
 On 06/24/2011 11:55 PM, Genes
 MailLists wrote:
  Best I can tell it is network manager - as soon as it
 starts  - kde
  desktop crashes and goes away .. yikes!
  
 
  downgrading NetworkManager gets thing working again ... nm
 is
 complaining bitterly in /var/log/messages ...
 -- 

I have encountered this since last night and could not get a connection even 
with wired connection.  NetworkManager crashed panel and got message that 
something was not working thought it was kernel :(, then I tried to downgrade 
NetworkManager and apparently it is too late :(  

[   30.920161] NetworkManager[749]: info NetworkManager (version 
0.8.9997-4.git20110620.fc15) is starting...
[   30.922871] NetworkManager[749]: info Read config file 
/etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
[   31.014966] abrtd[755]: Unrecognized variable 'DumpLocation' in 
'/etc/abrt/abrt.conf'
[   31.039677] acpid[761]: starting up with netlink and the input layer
[   31.059686] acpid[761]: skipping incomplete file /etc/acpi/events/videoconf
[   31.062479] acpid[761]: 1 rule loaded
[   31.065235] acpid[761]: waiting for events: event logging is off
[   31.469152] dbus[770]: avc:  netlink poll: error 4
[   31.491884] NetworkManager[749]: info VPN: loaded 
org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.vpnc
[   31.494612] NetworkManager[749]: info VPN: loaded 
org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.pptp
[   31.498910] NetworkManager[749]: info VPN: loaded 
org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.openvpn
[   31.509089] NetworkManager[749]: ifcfg-rh: Acquired D-Bus service 
com.redhat.ifcfgrh1
[   31.511761] NetworkManager[749]: info Loaded plugin ifcfg-rh: (c) 2007 - 
2010 Red Hat, Inc.  To report bugs please use the NetworkManager mailing list.
[   31.522518] NetworkManager[749]: info Loaded plugin keyfile: (c) 2007 - 
2010 Red Hat, Inc.  To report bugs please use the NetworkManager mailing list.
[   31.525356] NetworkManager[749]: ifcfg-rh: parsing 
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-lo ...
[   31.555244] NetworkManager[749]: ifcfg-rh: parsing 
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-Auto_pci9p1 ...
[   31.573308] NetworkManager[749]: ifcfg-rh:     read connection 'Auto pci9p1'
[   31.592807] abrtd[755]: Init complete, entering main loop
[   31.596323] rtkit-daemon[764]: Successfully called chroot.
[   31.599785] rtkit-daemon[764]: Successfully dropped privileges.
[   31.602800] rtkit-daemon[764]: Successfully limited resources.
[   31.607797] rtkit-daemon[764]: Running.
[   31.618247] rtkit-daemon[764]: Watchdog thread running.
[   31.624121] rtkit-daemon[764]: Canary thread running.
[   31.627065] NetworkManager[749]: info trying to start the modem manager...
[   31.633326] dbus[770]: [system] Activating service 
name='org.freedesktop.ModemManager' (using servicehelper)
[   31.636330] dbus[770]: [system] Activating service 
name='org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1' (using servicehelper)
[   31.998758] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready
[   32.036772] r8169 :05:00.0: p9p1: link down
[   32.051287] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): p9p1: link is not ready
[   32.298552] ip6_tables: (C) 2000-2006 Netfilter Core Team
[   34.335994] 802.1Q VLAN Support v1.8 Ben Greear gree...@candelatech.com
[   34.339647] All bugs added by David S. Miller da...@redhat.com
[   34.800164] RPC: Registered udp transport module.
[   34.803565] RPC: Registered tcp transport module.
[   34.807126] RPC: Registered tcp NFSv4.1 backchannel transport module.
[   34.853143] SELinux: initialized (dev rpc_pipefs, type rpc_pipefs), uses 
genfs_contexts
[  288.788612] wlan0: direct probe to c0:3f:0e:1c:b5:ec (try 1/3)
[  288.988124] wlan0: direct probe to c0:3f:0e:1c:b5:ec (try 2/3)
[  289.188123] wlan0: direct probe to c0:3f:0e:1c:b5:ec (try 3/3)
[  289.388137] wlan0: direct probe to c0:3f:0e:1c:b5:ec timed out
[  301.052559] wlan0: direct probe to c0:3f:0e:1c:b5:ec (try 1/3)
[  301.252116] wlan0: direct probe to c0:3f:0e:1c:b5:ec (try 2/3)
[  301.452110] wlan0: direct probe to c0:3f:0e:1c:b5:ec (try 3/3)
[root@toshiba-satellite ~]# yum downgrade NetworkManager
Loaded plugins: auto-update-debuginfo, langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit
Setting up Downgrade Process
http://linuxdownload.adobe.com/linux/i386/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] 
curl#6 - Couldn't resolve host
Trying other mirror.
Resolving Dependencies
-- Running transaction check
--- Package NetworkManager.i686 1:0.8.999-2.git20110509.fc15 will be a 
downgrade
-- Processing Dependency: NetworkManager-glib = 1:0.8.999-2.git20110509.fc15 
for package: 1:NetworkManager-0.8.999-2.git20110509.fc15.i686
--- Package NetworkManager.i686 1:0.8.9997-4.git20110620.fc15 will be erased
-- Finished Dependency Resolution
Error: Package: 1:NetworkManager-0.8.999-2.git20110509.fc15.i686 (fedora)
     

Re: cannot boot to F14

2011-06-25 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Fri, 24 Jun 2011, jackson byers wrote:

 You first message showed an F14 stanza (no chainloading).
 Try calling that; just copy it to your F13 grub.conf
 and then choose it instead of the F13 default

Thank you.  Thank you.  Thank you.

That's *almost* what I did before starting this thread.
I'd thought that I had to copy other files into the boot partition
and remove the /boot portion of file names.
I'd thought the root command just determined what the kernel made / .
Having reread the info entry on root,
I'm still a little fuzzy on what it does.

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Re: gnome 3 doesn't start any more

2011-06-25 Thread Niels Weber
2011/6/25 Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com:
 Please test and provide feedback:

 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gnome-shell-3.0.2-4.fc15

 This seems to have affected nvidia binary only video driver users.

This one fixes the issue.
Great to see how fast fixes are coming. :)

Thanks,
   Niels
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Re: kde-desktop crashes after update / NetworkManager

2011-06-25 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/25/2011 12:25 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote:
 

 -- Running transaction check
 --- Package NetworkManager.i686 1:0.8.999-2.git20110509.fc15 will be a 
 downgrade
 -- Processing Dependency: NetworkManager-glib = 1:0.8.999-2.git20110509.fc15 
 for package: 1:NetworkManager-0.8.999-2.git20110509.fc15.i686
 --- Package NetworkManager.i686 1:0.8.9997-4.git20110620.fc15 will be erased
 -- Finished Dependency Resolution
 
 Packages skipped because of dependency problems:
 1:NetworkManager-0.8.999-2.git20110509.fc15.i686 from fedora
 [root@toshiba-satellite ~]# 
 
 I tried to connect, panel crashed came back.  Wired connection fails 
 miserably, message says cable unplugged and it is there :)  Windows connects, 
 porteus connects just here and yes it was working, and now it is not :(.  The 
 other machines are working, it is just this one
 
 [olivares@toshiba-satellite ~]$ uname -a
 Linux toshiba-satellite 2.6.38.8-32.fc15.i686 #1 SMP Mon Jun 13 20:01:50 UTC 
 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
 
 
 
 This is true, in the other machines things work and in this one it does 
 not(as it should) running KDE here if it is important.
 

  I downgraded NetworkManager NetworkManager-gnome NetworkManager-glib

  if memory servers ...

  I see another post suggesting upgrading kde-plasma-networkmanagement
from testing repo fixes the issue - I have not yet tried tho'.

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Re: Enable Delete key in Nautilus

2011-06-25 Thread Steven Stern
On 06/25/2011 11:26 AM, Joachim Backes wrote:
 On 06/25/2011 06:14 PM, Steven Stern wrote:
 How can I tweak Nautilus so the delete key moves files to trash?



 Ctrl Delete


I don't want to CTRL DEL. I just want to DEL.  Is there a setting for that?

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Re: gnome 3 doesn't start any more

2011-06-25 Thread Mark Eggers
On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 10:15:39 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:

 Please test and provide feedback:
 
 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gnome-shell-3.0.2-4.fc15
 
 This seems to have affected nvidia binary only video driver users.
 
 kevin

I've been running fine with gnome-shell-3.0.2-3.fc15.i686 so far.

However, I'm using the binary drivers downloaded from NVidia.

My configuration is:

OS: Fedora 15 2.6.38.8-32.fc15.i686
Video:  7600 GS (overclocked) AGP
Driver: 275.09.07

I'll go ahead and try the 4.f15 version and see if this causes problems 
with the drivers downloaded from NVidia.

. . . . just my two cents

/mde/

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Re: gnome 3 doesn't start any more

2011-06-25 Thread Mark Eggers
On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 17:18:01 +, Mark Eggers wrote:

 On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 10:15:39 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
 
 Please test and provide feedback:
 
 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gnome-shell-3.0.2-4.fc15
 
 This seems to have affected nvidia binary only video driver users.
 
 kevin
 
 I've been running fine with gnome-shell-3.0.2-3.fc15.i686 so far.
 
 However, I'm using the binary drivers downloaded from NVidia.
 
 My configuration is:
 
 OS: Fedora 15 2.6.38.8-32.fc15.i686
 Video:  7600 GS (overclocked) AGP
 Driver: 275.09.07

After very light testing, this version (3.0.2-4.fc15.i686) works as well 
with the binary drivers downloaded from NVidia.

. . . . just my two cents.

/mde/

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Re: kde-desktop crashes after update / NetworkManager

2011-06-25 Thread Antonio Olivares


--- On Sat, 6/25/11, Genes MailLists li...@sapience.com wrote:

 From: Genes MailLists li...@sapience.com
 Subject: Re: kde-desktop crashes after update / NetworkManager
 To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org
 Cc: Antonio Olivares olivares14...@yahoo.com
 Date: Saturday, June 25, 2011, 9:45 AM
 On 06/25/2011 12:25 PM, Antonio
 Olivares wrote:
  
 
  -- Running transaction check
  --- Package NetworkManager.i686
 1:0.8.999-2.git20110509.fc15 will be a downgrade
  -- Processing Dependency: NetworkManager-glib =
 1:0.8.999-2.git20110509.fc15 for package:
 1:NetworkManager-0.8.999-2.git20110509.fc15.i686
  --- Package NetworkManager.i686
 1:0.8.9997-4.git20110620.fc15 will be erased
  -- Finished Dependency Resolution
  
  Packages skipped because of dependency problems:
  
    1:NetworkManager-0.8.999-2.git20110509.fc15.i686
 from fedora
  [root@toshiba-satellite ~]# 
  
  I tried to connect, panel crashed came back. 
 Wired connection fails miserably, message says cable
 unplugged and it is there :)  Windows connects, porteus
 connects just here and yes it was working, and now it is not
 :(.  The other machines are working, it is just this
 one
  
  [olivares@toshiba-satellite ~]$ uname -a
  Linux toshiba-satellite 2.6.38.8-32.fc15.i686 #1 SMP
 Mon Jun 13 20:01:50 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
  
  
  
  This is true, in the other machines things work and in
 this one it does not(as it should) running KDE here if it is
 important.
  
 
   I downgraded NetworkManager NetworkManager-gnome
 NetworkManager-glib
 
   if memory servers ...
 
   I see another post suggesting upgrading
 kde-plasma-networkmanagement
 from testing repo fixes the issue - I have not yet tried
 tho'.
 
 

Thank you very much Gene :)

# yum update kde-plasma-networkmanagement --enablerepo=updates-testing

fixed it for me.  

Regards,

Antonio 
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Re: where is gnomebreakpad

2011-06-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 06/25/2011 03:02 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
 Of course i meant yum Spell check strikes again.

Have you considered poorfraeding your posts before sending them?  It 
will catch most of the things the spelling checker can't.  HTH, HAND.
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Re: kde-desktop crashes after update / NetworkManager

2011-06-25 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/25/2011 01:39 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote:
 
.


 
 Thank you very much Gene :)
 
 # yum update kde-plasma-networkmanagement --enablerepo=updates-testing
 
 fixed it for me.  
 
 Regards,
 
 Antonio 

 Great - thank Anoop :-)

 Now that you both tested it - I guess I'll go ahead and update too :-]
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Re: cannot boot to F14

2011-06-25 Thread jackson byers
 I tried adding
title chain14
   rootnoverify (hd1,8)
   makeactive
   chainloader +1
 to grub.conf .
 When I tried to use it, I got
 Error 18   : Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS.

Could the problem with using my boot partition with my
F14 be that my F14 knows something else is /boot ?
Could I fix that by editing my F14's /etc/mtab ?

 I don't knoW what your rootnoverify is doing

 You first message showed an F14 stanza (no chainloading)
 Try calling that; just copy it to your F13 grub.conf
 and then choose it instead of the F13 default


1) what do you mean re
problem with using my boot partition with my F14 ??
You already said your F14 is _not_ using a boot partition.

2) I have never found it necessary to edit /etc/mtab

3)I have never used rootnoverify on a Linux boot;
I think rootnoverify is primarily used for Windows stanzas
 on dual boot configurations.

4) Any result yet from copying f14 stanza to f13  grub.conf
and then choosing the f14 from the f13 on-screen menu?

Jack
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Re: cannot boot to F14

2011-06-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 06/25/2011 12:11 PM, jackson byers wrote:
 2) I have never found it necessary to edit /etc/mtab

You should never, under any circumstances edit /etc/mtab.  It's a list 
of what partitions are currently mounted, where and with what options, 
not a configuration file.  The file to edit if you want to change how 
things get mounted is, of course, /etc/fstab.  I would have replied to 
the OP with this, but for some reason the problem managed to slip under 
my radar until just now.
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Re: kde-desktop crashes after update / NetworkManager

2011-06-25 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/25/2011 04:14 AM, Anoop wrote:


  downgrading NetworkManager gets thing working again ... nm is
 complaining bitterly in /var/log/messages ...
 I hit same issue today. Then updated 'kde-plasma-networkmanagement'
 from 'updates-testing' and the issue went away.
 
 Thanks,
 Anoop


  After doing this and re-installing updates for NM - it did not crash
so far .. thank you .. :-)

 gene
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Re: where is gnomebreakpad

2011-06-25 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/26/2011 01:53 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
 Have you considered poorfraeding your posts before sending them?  It 
 will catch most of the things the spelling checker can't.  HTH, HAND.

What is your point?
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Re: where is gnomebreakpad

2011-06-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 06/25/2011 12:44 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
 On 06/26/2011 01:53 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
 Have you considered poorfraeding your posts before sending them?  It
 will catch most of the things the spelling checker can't.  HTH, HAND.

 What is your point?

I was pointing out that a spelling checker can't catch everything 
because it doesn't know when you've used the wrong word but spelled it 
correctly.  I am, among other things, a writer (not published yet, alas) 
and I find some of the poor spelling and misused words on this mailing 
list (and others) almost painful to read.  I do my best not to mention 
it because it almost never does any good.  In this case, as you were 
correcting your own error, it seemed appropriate to suggest a simple way 
to avoid doing it again.
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Re: F15 fails to suspend/hibernate on Thinkpad W510+

2011-06-25 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Fri, 2011-06-24 at 13:01 -0400, Darryl L. Pierce wrote: 
 On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 11:59:12AM -0400, Genes MailLists wrote:
   2) lspci
   
   (mcpierce@mcpierce-laptop:~)$ lspci
  
   01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GT216 [Quadro FX 
   880M] (rev a2)
  
   Are you using nouveau or nvidia drivers for this ?
 
 Nouveau drivers.
 

Suspend seems to work with nVidia proprietary drivers.  I was using them
until the latest gnome update (see some other thread about that).
There's probably a nouveau bug regarding suspend.

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Re: cannot boot to F14

2011-06-25 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2011-06-25 at 11:28 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote:
 I'd thought the root command just determined what the kernel made / .
 Having reread the info entry on root,
 I'm still a little fuzzy on what it does.

In the grub.conf (or menu.lst files, they're the same file), the root
parameter in the

  root (hd0,0)

command line sets the root for GRUB (he partition it starts from).
Generally, it's the Linux /boot partition, and there's a sub-directory,
inside it, holding all the GRUB files.

And, the root parameter in the kernel line:

 kernel /vmlinuz ro root=/dev/sda1

tells the Linux kernel where the system root (/) is for the Linux file
system.

On a multi-boot system, you could have a common boot partition (which
can be messy to maintain), or individual boot partitions per OS
installation.

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2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686

Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored.  I
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Re: where is gnomebreakpad

2011-06-25 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/26/2011 03:55 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
 I was pointing out that a spelling checker can't catch everything 
 because it doesn't know when you've used the wrong word but spelled it 
 correctly.  I am, among other things, a writer (not published yet, alas) 
 and I find some of the poor spelling and misused words on this mailing 
 list (and others) almost painful to read.  I do my best not to mention 
 it because it almost never does any good.  In this case, as you were 
 correcting your own error, it seemed appropriate to suggest a simple way 
 to avoid doing it again.

Are you suggesting that I am unaware of that?

Are you also aware that pointing out spelling errors and grammar errors
of people on mailing lists has long been considered bad form?  Except
for, maybe, mailing lists dedicated to a given language and its usage.

I am happy to hear that you do your best not to mention these
transgressions which cause you immeasurable pain.  I suggest you work a
bit harder.

For my part, I'll try to monitor my new Android Tablet's features in an
attempt to save you additional grief.
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Re: cannot boot to F14

2011-06-25 Thread jackson byers
  You first message showed an F14 stanza (no chainloading).
 Try calling that; just copy it to your F13 grub.conf
 and then choose it instead of the F13 default

 Thank you.  Thank you.  Thank you.

 That's *almost* what I did before starting this thread.
 I'd thought that I had to copy other files into the boot partition
 and remove the /boot portion of file names.
 I'd thought the root command just determined what the kernel made / .
 Having reread the info entry on root,
 I'm still a little fuzzy on what it does.

Very glad I could help.

You should probably read and reread the 'info grub' page.
There is also available a pdf version of the grub manual, google for it.

Jack
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Re: where is gnomebreakpad

2011-06-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 06/25/2011 02:23 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
 Are you suggesting that I am unaware of that?


Judging only by your writing, I've no idea.

 Are you also aware that pointing out spelling errors and grammar errors
 of people on mailing lists has long been considered bad form?

Usually by people who either can't or won't use them properly.  However, 
I'd also like to point out that if you hadn't corrected yourself, I'd 
not have mentioned it either.  As you did, I made what was intended to 
be a helpful suggestion as to how to avoid it.  Instead of accepting it 
in the spirit in which it was offered, you decided to take offense where 
none was offered.
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Re: where is gnomebreakpad

2011-06-25 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/26/2011 05:43 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
 On 06/25/2011 02:23 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
 Are you suggesting that I am unaware of that?

 Judging only by your writing, I've no idea.

So, you are suggesting I am a poor writer due to my writing which you
have judged?

 Are you also aware that pointing out spelling errors and grammar errors
 of people on mailing lists has long been considered bad form?
 Usually by people who either can't or won't use them properly.  However, 
 I'd also like to point out that if you hadn't corrected yourself, I'd 
 not have mentioned it either.  As you did, I made what was intended to 
 be a helpful suggestion as to how to avoid it.  Instead of accepting it 
 in the spirit in which it was offered, you decided to take offense where 
 none was offered.

Not offended.  Just mildly irritated.  (FWIW, IMO, folks should ask what
others are feeling and not make assumed statements.)

You have no idea who I am.  You don't know, for example, that I may have
a vision impairment which may make proof reading harder than normal. 
You don't know, for example, that I may suffer from dyslexia. 

Thank you for letting me, and others, know that we should avoid
correcting ourselves (even if the correction is necessary to avoid a
technical misunderstanding) to help you with your desire to make
helpful suggestions.


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Today's surprise joke

2011-06-25 Thread JD
Have
livecd-tools-14.2-1.fc14.i686
installed

# /usr/bin/livecd-iso-to-disk  --help
Usage: readlink [OPTION]... FILE
Print value of a symbolic link or canonical file name

   -f, --canonicalizecanonicalize by following every symlink in
 every component of the given name 
recursively;
 all but the last component must exist
   -e, --canonicalize-existing   canonicalize by following every symlink in
 every component of the given name 
recursively,
 all components must exist
   -m, --canonicalize-missingcanonicalize by following every symlink in
 every component of the given name 
recursively,
 without requirements on components 
existence
   -n, --no-newline  do not output the trailing newline
   -q, --quiet,
   -s, --silent  suppress most error messages
   -v, --verbose report error messages
   --help display this help and exit
   --version  output version information and exit

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Re: frozen gnome 3 desktop

2011-06-25 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
On 06/24/2011 11:18 AM, L wrote:
 On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 4:14 AM, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak
 m...@avtechpulse.com wrote:
 After upgraded to fedora 15, most are working well. The gnome 3
 desktop are weired. It frequently freeze, not responding to mouse or
 keyboard. I have to login a virtual term (alt+ctrl+F2) to restart gdm
 (init 3; init 5). I checked Xorg.0.log file and output of dmesg, I
 can't spot any hint.

 Any one experienced this or where is find a fix? thanks
 I've done 2 desktop upgrades. One worked fine. One had the problems you
 described (frequent freezes), so I had to downgrade it back to F14.

 Three server upgrades have gone well, but they don't have gnome3, of course.

 Not very helpful, but another data point anyway...
 temperately I use classic gnome instead of gnome 3. It seems working
 ok with classic gnome
How did you get classic gnome on F15?

Was this done using LiveCD or after installing F15 on the HD
then doing a Gnome downgrade?  I would like the details if
that is ok?

I was checking out F15 LiveCD on an older system and Gnome3
popped up an error message saying that it failed, however,
clicking 'Close' on the error popup continues on and I was able to log
in.  I can do a few things but then after a time (about 5 minutes or
so), the system completely hangs. So, I did not want to attempt an
install at this point.

F14 works on my old system with 384MB RAM,  although it runs slow.

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Re: where is gnomebreakpad

2011-06-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 06/25/2011 02:55 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
 So, you are suggesting I am a poor writer due to my writing which you
 have judged?

No.  I'm saying that I have no way of knowing, other than what I see in 
your posts.  And, for the record, much of your writing is excellent, as 
the vicar said to the bishop.
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Re: where is gnomebreakpad

2011-06-25 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/26/2011 06:16 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
 On 06/25/2011 02:55 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
 So, you are suggesting I am a poor writer due to my writing which you
 have judged?
 No.  I'm saying that I have no way of knowing, other than what I see in 
 your posts.  And, for the record, much of your writing is excellent, as 
 the vicar said to the bishop.

Yes, you have no way of knowing anything about me.  Just what you judge
based on what you read.

Well, now that you've established yourself as the writer on this list
and maybe the expert and arbiter of all things related to American
English (British English too?) some folks may pay attention to every
detail of what you write in order to make helpful suggestions about how
you may improve.  That is, of course, assuming you are not above reproach.
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Re: where is gnomebreakpad

2011-06-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 06/25/2011 03:23 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
 Well, now that you've established yourself as the writer on this list
 and maybe the expert and arbiter of all things related to American
 English (British English too?)

For someone who didn't take offense, you're getting surprisingly 
belligerent, you know.

 some folks may pay attention to every
 detail of what you write in order to make helpful suggestions about how
 you may improve.  That is, of course, assuming you are not above reproach.

Go for it.  Unlike some people I know (in person, that is) I don't 
consider myself perfect and I certainly make my share of mistakes.  And, 
of course, you can't correct your mistakes if everybody's afraid to 
point them out.
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Replacing gnome-shell on Fedora 15

2011-06-25 Thread Geoffrey Leach
Having tried (briefly!) gnome-shell on Fedora 14, its clear that I 
won't be using it any time soon. Seems to me that the obvious solution 
is to replace it with (my preferred) metacity as the default window 
manager. Has anyone tried this?

Thanks.

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Re: where is gnomebreakpad

2011-06-25 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2011-06-25 at 16:14 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:

 Go for it.  Unlike some people I know (in person, that is) I don't 
 consider myself perfect and I certainly make my share of mistakes.  And, 
 of course, you can't correct your mistakes if everybody's afraid to 
 point them out.

this list does not need to waste the bandwidth for every would be
grammarian. This is about Fedora, not grammar 101.

E-mail itself is informal despite anyone's attempts to make it otherwise
and thus spelling, sentence structure and other grammatical faux pas are
completely irrelevant to the topic. The only point is to make yourself
understood.

This of course doesn't even begin to cover the many who frequent this
list for whom English is not their native language and might be put off
by self-appointed jackasses defenders of grammatical correctness.

Craig


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Re: Replacing gnome-shell on Fedora 15

2011-06-25 Thread Sam Varshavchik

Geoffrey Leach writes:


Having tried (briefly!) gnome-shell on Fedora 14, its clear that I
won't be using it any time soon. Seems to me that the obvious solution
is to replace it with (my preferred) metacity as the default window
manager. Has anyone tried this?


The metacity fallback desktop on F15 is just gnome-shell lite; gnome-shell  
without desktop effects.


Your best plan B is XFCE. It's a reasonable replacement. The biggest problem  
with XFCE is the lack of PackageKit integration, so you'll have to run it  
manually every week, or so, to pull in the latest updates. Other than that,  
it's a fine alternative.


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Partitioning in anaconda

2011-06-25 Thread Frode
Hi. I've searched release notes, bugzilla and news archives for an 
answer to this, but haven't found one. I have found one other query on 
fedoraforum, but no solution. ( 
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/archive/index.php/t-259666.html )

I started installing f14 on a machine (P4, 2GB ram, 30GB free on 75GB 
HD, 1st partition is WinXP). I use manual setup of partitions, as I have 
always done, planning to use the following approximate scheme:
 sda1 - primary - ntfs - 45 GB - winXP
 sda2 - primary - ext2 - 200 MB - /boot
 sda5 - extended - ext4 - 7 GB - /home
 sda6 - extended - swap - 2 GB - [swap]
 sda7 - extended - ext4 - 20 GB - /

It seems that anaconda overrides my choice of not ticking the 'create 
primary partition' box in the 'add partition' dialog, making all three 
first partitions created primary. This means that both /boot and either 
/home or / would be primary partitions.

Questions:
  - 'Olde' knowledge says that only one primary partition can be visible 
to the system at one time. Is this not longer true?

  - If still true, the system wouldn't be able to see the home or root 
partition, would it?

  - If the behaviour is by design, what is the reasoning behind it? Is 
it better than letting the admin decide?

I haven't yet tried partitioning with fdisk first, but will try to do 
that tomorrow. Hopefully it will be a usable workaround.


Have a nice weekend,

Frode Petersen
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Re: Partitioning in anaconda

2011-06-25 Thread Petrus de Calguarium
Frode wrote:

 Questions:

 'Olde' knowledge says that only one primary partition can be visible
 to the system at one time. Is this not longer true?

Don't quote me (DQM), but I think this only applies to Windows. DQM, but I 
think grub doesn't care. I boot systems installed on partitions that are not 
primary all the time. I only have 3 primary partitions:

1 for Windows (empty), just in case I ever want to install it
1 for swap, exactly the size of the available RAM
1 primary extended partition (the remainder of my hard drive), which is 
subdivided into a number of logical partitions. These contain fedora 14, 
fedora 15, rawhide, my collected data (usually mounted to 
/home/me/Documents), etc.

I use this setup, since Windows will not recognize the linux swap partition 
(82), nor will it recognize the linux extended partition (85), nor will it 
recognize the logical ext4 partitions (83) inside the extended. Linux is 
entirely invisible to Windows, should I ever install it, and the Windows 
installer will not even recognize the size of the full hard drive, since it 
only 'sees' the first partition (type vfat or ntfs, so that the Windows 
installer can see it), which I reserve for Windows, hence the 2 systems can 
coexist on one hard drive. I don't have to worry about the windows installer 
deleting or formatting my fedora partitions.

 I haven't yet tried partitioning with fdisk first, but will try to do
 that tomorrow. Hopefully it will be a usable workaround.

I always partition with fdisk first. I create the layout for my hard drive, 
deciding all the sizes of each partition. I don't use logical volumes. Once 
done, I reboot and use anaconda's manual partition setup, to ensure that my 
layout prevails and that each partition is used for the purpose for which I 
created it.


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Re: where is gnomebreakpad

2011-06-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 06/25/2011 05:06 PM, Craig White wrote:
 This of course doesn't even begin to cover the many who frequent this
 list for whom English is not their native language and might be put off
 by self-appointed jackasses defenders of grammatical correctness.

Which is why I don't normally comment on such things.  Instead, if I see 
that the message came from someplace where English is at best a second 
language, I cut them extra slack.  And, please note, this tempest in a 
tea pot didn't start because I corrected somebody, it started when I 
replied to a poster's self-correction with a friendly suggestion about 
how to avoid similar mistakes in the future.  If the OP hadn't corrected 
himself I would have just let the error go by without comment, the same 
way I do with other errors.
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Re: Partitioning in anaconda

2011-06-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 06/25/2011 06:10 PM, Frode wrote:
 Questions:
- 'Olde' knowledge says that only one primary partition can be visible
 to the system at one time. Is this not longer true?

IIRC the problem is that there's only room in the partition table for 
four partitions, so if you want to have more, you have to create an 
extended partition and create the rest as logical partitions.  What you 
may be thinking of is the fact that for Windows to boot from a partition 
it has to be marked as the (one and only) active partition (i.e., 
bootable) but neither Grub nor Linux in general cares about that.  This 
may not in fact be true any more, but up through at least Win98 it was.
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Re: Partitioning in anaconda

2011-06-25 Thread Sam Varshavchik

Frode writes:


HD, 1st partition is WinXP). I use manual setup of partitions, as I have
always done, planning to use the following approximate scheme:
 sda1 - primary - ntfs - 45 GB - winXP
 sda2 - primary - ext2 - 200 MB - /boot
 sda5 - extended - ext4 - 7 GB - /home
 sda6 - extended - swap - 2 GB - [swap]
 sda7 - extended - ext4 - 20 GB - /

It seems that anaconda overrides my choice of not ticking the 'create
primary partition' box in the 'add partition' dialog, making all three
first partitions created primary. This means that both /boot and either
/home or / would be primary partitions.

Questions:
  - 'Olde' knowledge says that only one primary partition can be visible
to the system at one time. Is this not longer true?


It was never true. You could always divide a disk into up to four primary  
partitions, one of which can be an extended partition that's further  
subdivided into logical partitions.


The only restriction was in the default DOS/Win bootloader. One of the  
primary partitions is marked as the active partition, and the default  
DOS/Win bootloader boots from whichever partition is marked active. And  
whichever O/S gets booted always has access to all disk partitions.


If grub gets installed as the bootloader, it completely ignores the active  
partition flag, and uses its own menu system and configuration file to let  
you select which partition and operating system it boots.





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Re: Partitioning in anaconda

2011-06-25 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Sunday 26 June 2011 02:33:10 Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
 I don't have to worry about the windows
 installer deleting or formatting my fedora partitions.

A bit OT, but if you ever install windows, you *do* have to worry about it 
rewriting your grub bootloader. Windows doesn't see any of the Linux 
partitions, and furthermore will not behave friendly to create a multi-boot 
environment. Once you install windows, you'll need to use the rescue CD to 
reinstall grub into the MBR of your drive, in order to access Linux again. ;-)

HTH, :-)
Marko

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Re: Replacing gnome-shell on Fedora 15

2011-06-25 Thread Mike Wright
On 06/25/2011 04:58 PM, Geoffrey Leach wrote:
 Having tried (briefly!) gnome-shell on Fedora 14, its clear that I
 won't be using it any time soon. Seems to me that the obvious solution
 is to replace it with (my preferred) metacity as the default window
 manager. Has anyone tried this?

Be cautious with gnome-shell on f14.  I was enthralled when I installed 
  it.  It kept my keyboard shortcuts and all of my customized behaviors. 
  I really liked being able to bump my standard 4 desktops up to 9 or 16.

Problems arose when I wanted to do something gnome2-ish (can't remember 
what).  I looked for the option to disable gnome-shell but it can't be done.

Simple solution since it is so small -- yum erase gnome-shell.

Everything was gone.  Ability to add anything to panels was gone.  The 
desktop switcher was reduced to one desktop with your choice of how many 
rows you'd like it on.

Basically destroyed the gnome2 environment.

Only recourse was to backup my files, delete me as a user, re-add myself 
with the same uid/gid, then restore my files.

My infatuation with gnome-shell went the way of all infatuations.  Ta ta!

Tread carefully,
Mike Wright

 Thanks.


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Re: gnome 3 doesn't start any more

2011-06-25 Thread Christopher A. Williams
On Sat, 2011-06-25 at 17:39 +, Mark Eggers wrote:
 On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 17:18:01 +, Mark Eggers wrote:
 
  On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 10:15:39 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
  
  Please test and provide feedback:
  
  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gnome-shell-3.0.2-4.fc15
  
  This seems to have affected nvidia binary only video driver users.
  
  kevin
  
  I've been running fine with gnome-shell-3.0.2-3.fc15.i686 so far.
  
  However, I'm using the binary drivers downloaded from NVidia.
  
  My configuration is:
  
  OS: Fedora 15 2.6.38.8-32.fc15.i686
  Video:  7600 GS (overclocked) AGP
  Driver: 275.09.07
 
 After very light testing, this version (3.0.2-4.fc15.i686) works as well 
 with the binary drivers downloaded from NVidia.
 
 . . . . just my two cents.

Tested here and problem is fixed with the new version...!

Cheers,

Chris

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Re: where is gnomebreakpad

2011-06-25 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/26/2011 07:14 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
 On 06/25/2011 03:23 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
 Well, now that you've established yourself as the writer on this list
 and maybe the expert and arbiter of all things related to American
 English (British English too?)
 For someone who didn't take offense, you're getting surprisingly 
 belligerent, you know.

IMO, what I've said doesn't rise to the level of belligerence.  If I
wanted to be hostile I would have told you directly what I though of you
and what you could do with your supposedly  helpful suggestion.  Now,
that would have been hostile.

 some folks may pay attention to every
 detail of what you write in order to make helpful suggestions about how
 you may improve.  That is, of course, assuming you are not above reproach.
 Go for it.  Unlike some people I know (in person, that is) I don't 
 consider myself perfect and I certainly make my share of mistakes.  And, 
 of course, you can't correct your mistakes if everybody's afraid to 
 point them out.

I said some folks.  I hope you didn't take that to mean me.  I have
better things to do with my time.

You can't being to imagine how underwhelmed I I found myself when you
rated my writing good in an earlier post.

Yet, I guess it is good to know that as long as people make grammatical
errors and spellings mistakes as long as they don't correct themselves
you'll keep quiet about it.

Now back the technical portion of our program.

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