Re: [solved] Re: to ibus or not to ibus, that is the question

[Marko Vojinovic]

On Thursday, 8. March 2012. 17.06.15 Peter Gueckel wrote:
> Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> > If you don't know what it is, most probably you don't need
> > it.
> 
> It's odd that is would say "recommended" when the mojority of users would
> never need it, but, no matter, I have disabled it again.

I'd say you need to reevaluate who constitutes the majority on this planet, 
and whether or not they use a latin alphabet. ;-)

Best, :-)
Marko


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Re: [solved] Re: to ibus or not to ibus, that is the question

[夜神 岩男]

On 03/09/2012 09:06 AM, Peter Gueckel wrote:

Marko Vojinovic wrote:


If you don't know what it is, most probably you don't need
it.


It's odd that is would say "recommended" when the mojority of users would never
need it, but, no matter, I have disabled it again.


Most of us in the rest of the world use this thousands of keystrokes 
every day. If this were to be overlooked in a distro it would be 
completely unusable. Native language input for languages associated with 
roughy half the world's landmass require this.


I'm unsure whether this means an American English base install should 
mark it as "recommended", but since packaging guidelines are 
region/language agnostic the simple answer is to leave listed as 
"recommended".


-IY
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Re: Is there some trick to booting F16 minimal install CD?

[Michael Hennebry]

On Thu, 8 Mar 2012, Charles Zeitler wrote:


On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Michael Hennebry
 wrote:

On Wed, 7 Mar 2012, Michael Hennebry wrote:


I made a minimal CD to start an install from hard drive.
It doesn't work.




How do I debug this?

Any ideas?


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Re: Strange message at startup

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Thu, 2012-03-08 at 17:04 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> > No, that's for changing the desktop environment. The window manager
> is
> > different.
> > 
> > poc
> > 
> 
> You are right but changing the desktop environment is what OP seems to
> want to do.

He's already using KDE. He suspects he has a problem because it's being
run from GDM and wants to change to KDM to check.

Any display manager can *in principle* run any desktop.

poc

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Re: IPTable Rules... again

[nullv]

>> for some reason I can't make a connection to the external mail 
>> server from inside the lan. even from the 10.0.0.3 address which
>> should be allowed to do anything. everything used to work when i 
>> used MASQUERADing but stopped once i switched to SNAT. Can anybody 
>> help me? What am I doing wrong??

> what you are doing wrong is change working things
> the following works perfectly (eth1: WAN, eth0: LAN)

> iptables -t filter -P INPUT ACCEPT
> iptables -t filter -P FORWARD ACCEPT
> iptables -t filter -P OUTPUT ACCEPT
> iptables -t nat -P PREROUTING ACCEPT
> iptables -t nat -P POSTROUTING ACCEPT
> iptables -A FORWARD -i eth1 -d 192.168.1.0/24 -j ACCEPT
> ipatbles -A POSTROUTING -t nat -s 192.168.1.0/24 -o eth1 -j MASQUERADE

the thing is I don't want to allow all my local machines to access the net. 
Only selected services (POP3S, DNS, and SMTPS) are allowed. Although there are 
exceptions like 10.0.0.3. Additionaly my ISP limits the amount of traffic from 
1 IP. I have 5 public addresses I want to roundrobin them so that traffic gets 
distributed accross the IPs.

> what is this
> -A INPUT -i eth1 -j ACCEPT

that's allow local packets from the lan (eth1) into the server.
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Re: nx

[Claude Jones]

On 03/08/2012 12:58 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:

This email reöains without response.


On Sun, 26 Feb 2012, Aram J. Agajanian wrote:


On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 23:34:32 + (GMT)
Patrick Dupre  wrote:


After:
nxserver --keygen

I have:

/usr/NX/share/keys
total 6
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root 668 Feb 26 00:01 default.id_dsa.key
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root 668 Feb 19 14:40 default.id_dsa.key.backup
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root 668 May 28 2007 server.id_dsa.key


My experience with NXNomachine has been that there are few here that use 
it. Those who do don't have to do much to keep it running after it's 
properly set up, so trying to help someone with a configuration you may 
have done some time ago usually doesn't work. I got my setup running 
more than a year ago so what I did exactly to get it working is not 
fresh in my memory. I have NXNomachine running on server at work and one 
at home. I have always gotten it running using their own documentation, 
because I couldn't find help. Their documentation is actually quite 
adequate. Make sure SSH is open on the firewall and in Selinux, you want 
SSH allowed to forward port connections. Follow instructions to generate 
the key. The next step is one where I've had numerous failures. I 
usually open the key file with a basic text editor such as Kate or Gedit 
on a client computer. Select all and copy. Then open a nxclient 
instance, and go into the configure; there you will find a button on the 
general tab called 'key'; clicking that will open a window where you can 
paste the key. That generally does it. I'm sorry but I don't have time 
to read your long question, but, hopefully, something from above will 
help you figure out what you're doing wrong.

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Re: synchronize time

[Mikkel L. Ellertson]

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On 03/08/2012 05:08 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-03-08 at 09:37 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote:
>>
>>
>> That just stops you from taking this to private email and makes
sure the
>> discussion stays on the list.
>
> I understand but sometimes it would be useful to reach someone directly
> and not to take my frustration. Tim has every right to hide behind a
> no-reply address, but lets be clear he is hiding.
Well, it that is hiding, then not posting your phone number as part
of your signature is hiding as well. Personally, I just ignore most
personal email from the list, unless something that catches my
interest, or it is a slow day. The exception if people I have
indicated that I welcome private messages from. Tim takes a more
direct approach by indicating in he email address that he will
ignore messages to the address he uses for posting to the list. I
have considered it, but a kill filter works for my needs.

Mikkel
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Re: Strange message at startup

[Mikkel L. Ellertson]

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On 03/08/2012 05:04 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> You are right but changing the desktop environment is what OP seems
to want to do.
No - he wants to change the Display Manager, because he is getting a
blank background and an error message from the display manager.
Because he is using KDE as his desktop, he wants to use KDE for his
display manager as well. That will probably take care of the error
message. It is partially covered up by the login block, but we
suspect that it is complaining about missing thyme files.

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Re: [solved] Re: to ibus or not to ibus, that is the question

[suvayu ali]

On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 01:06, Peter Gueckel  wrote:
> Marko Vojinovic wrote:
>
>> If you don't know what it is, most probably you don't need
>> it.
>
> It's odd that is would say "recommended" when the mojority of users would 
> never
> need it, but, no matter, I have disabled it again.

*cough* Majority of the world is not latin based language speaking *cough*

;)

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[solved] Re: to ibus or not to ibus, that is the question

[Peter Gueckel]

Marko Vojinovic wrote:

> If you don't know what it is, most probably you don't need
> it.

It's odd that is would say "recommended" when the mojority of users would never 
need it, but, no matter, I have disabled it again.

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[solved] Re: to ibus or not to ibus, that is the question

[Peter Gueckel]

suvayu ali wrote:

> Its very useful to type scripts which are not based on the latin
> alphabet

OK, thanks. I have disabled it again.

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Re: Is there some trick to booting F16 minimal install CD?

[Charles Zeitler]

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On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Michael Hennebry
 wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Mar 2012, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>
>> I made a minimal CD to start an install from hard drive.
>> It doesn't work.
>
>
>> How do I debug this?
> Any ideas?
>
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Re: Problem with RTL8178

[L]

On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 4:25 AM, Joe Zeff  wrote:
> On 03/08/2012 02:44 AM, Jonathan Allen wrote:
>>
>>
>>    a. F16 without Gnome 3
>

I use ndiswrapper to make Windows XP RTL(not sure the version??) USB
wireless adapter driver work under Linux (on lubuntu).

Here the ubuntu version steps, hope offer your so0me hints


Plug the device
Enter following commands in the terminal.

sudo su

-Perform following in root.

apt-get update
apt-cache search ndiswrapper

-In it you can find ndiswrapper-common, ndiswrapper-utils-1.9
packages. Install them by,

apt-get install ndiswrapper-common
apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils-1.9

-Change the folder to where the windows XP drivers for your network device is.

ndiswrapper -i filename.inf

-Give the name of .inf file for the driver. For DWA-120 it is netA5AGU.inf

ndiswrapper -m
modprobe ndiswrapper

Add the line "ndiswrapper" (without quotes) at the end of the file
/etc/modules using command "sudo gedit /etc/modules" to load the
driver every time the system loads. If you do not want to load the
driver automatically, do not edit this file. Instead, enter following
command at terminal to turn on the adapter.

sudo modprobe ndiswrapper

3. reboot the machine

All done. You can check whether your device working by typing "iwconfig".


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Re: synchronize time

[Aaron Konstam]

On Thu, 2012-03-08 at 09:37 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: 
> On 03/08/2012 08:47 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> > But most of all go away attacking someone else secure behind your email
> > no-reply screen.
> 
> That just stops you from taking this to private email and makes sure the 
> discussion stays on the list.

I understand but sometimes it would be useful to reach someone directly
and not to take my frustration. Tim has every right to hide behind a
no-reply address, but lets be clear he is hiding.
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Re: Strange message at startup

[Aaron Konstam]

On Thu, 2012-03-08 at 18:15 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: 
> On Thu, 2012-03-08 at 10:31 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> > On Wed, 2012-03-07 at 19:46 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: 
> > > On Wed, 2012-03-07 at 12:13 -0800, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
> > > > Unfortunately a search of /var/log as root:
> > > > # find -type f | xargs fgrep Administrator
> > > > returns nothing.  It looks like the display manager is gdm, since 
> > > > /var/log/gdm exists and no other /var/log/*dm does. This may be a
> > > > problem, since I use KDE.
> > > 
> > > It's easy to change to KDM. Create a /etc/sysconfig/desktop file
> > > containing:
> > > 
> > > DISPLAYMANAGER=KDE
> > > 
> > > and reboot.
> > > 
> > > poc
> > > 
> > 
> > It is even easier. After you put in your login name there is a window on
> > the screen where you can chose thew window manager to boot.
> 
> No, that's for changing the desktop environment. The window manager is
> different.
> 
> poc
> 

You are right but changing the desktop environment is what OP seems to
want to do.
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Re: nx

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Thu, 2012-03-08 at 17:58 +, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> This email reöains without response.

And yet you quote it in its entirety and top-post to boot.

poc

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Re: Strange message at startup

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Thu, 2012-03-08 at 10:31 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-03-07 at 19:46 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: 
> > On Wed, 2012-03-07 at 12:13 -0800, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
> > > Unfortunately a search of /var/log as root:
> > > # find -type f | xargs fgrep Administrator
> > > returns nothing.  It looks like the display manager is gdm, since 
> > > /var/log/gdm exists and no other /var/log/*dm does. This may be a
> > > problem, since I use KDE.
> > 
> > It's easy to change to KDM. Create a /etc/sysconfig/desktop file
> > containing:
> > 
> > DISPLAYMANAGER=KDE
> > 
> > and reboot.
> > 
> > poc
> > 
> 
> It is even easier. After you put in your login name there is a window on
> the screen where you can chose thew window manager to boot.

No, that's for changing the desktop environment. The window manager is
different.

poc

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Re: Abrt quota in F16?

[Piscium]

On 5 March 2012 23:08, Christopher Svanefalk
 wrote:
> Can someone throw me a (very short) rope on how to adjust the Abrt space
> quota for debuginfo files?  Thanks in advance!

Try /etc/abrt/abrt.conf
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Re: to ibus or not to ibus, that is the question

[suvayu ali]

On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 21:44, Marko Vojinovic  wrote:
>> ibus is recommended, but what am I getting here? I don't see any difference,
>> excepting the (useless) applet.
>
> Ibus is essential for complicated-to-input-multi-keystroke languages, like
> Chinese and such. If you don't know what it is, most probably you don't need
> it. OTOH, I am not sure how much system resources it uses when idle, so if it
> doesn't have a big memory footprint, you can leave it be.

Its very useful to type scripts which are not based on the latin
alphabet, e.g. Devanagari, Bengali, Chinese, Japanese and many others.

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Re: to ibus or not to ibus, that is the question

[Marko Vojinovic]

On Thursday, 8. March 2012. 12.23.47 Peter Gueckel wrote:
> My system has been working fine. I noticed that the input method selector
> showed that no input method was in use. I also noticed that ibus was
> recommended, so I decided to enable it. I logged out and back in, as
> directed.
> 
> I haven't got a clue what the advantage is and I don't see any difference,
> except that there is now an applet in the system tray that says "no input
> window", but when I start firefox, it says "english default layout (intl)".
> 
> ibus is recommended, but what am I getting here? I don't see any difference,
> excepting the (useless) applet.

Ibus is essential for complicated-to-input-multi-keystroke languages, like 
Chinese and such. If you don't know what it is, most probably you don't need 
it. OTOH, I am not sure how much system resources it uses when idle, so if it 
doesn't have a big memory footprint, you can leave it be.

HTH, :-)
Marko


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Re: Tracker crashes

[Heinz Diehl]

On 08.03.2012, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: 

> What is "Tracker" 

http://projects.gnome.org/tracker/

> and why is it crashing all the time?  Almost every
> time I start my system, I get an Abrt warning with this message:
> 
> Process /usr/libexec/tracker-extract was killed by signal 11
> (SIGSEGV)

Sounds like a bug in the tracker package. Can be a faulty system, too
(defective RAM, overclocking). 

Disable it, if you don't need it.


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to ibus or not to ibus, that is the question

[Peter Gueckel]

My system has been working fine. I noticed that the input method selector 
showed 
that no input method was in use. I also noticed that ibus was recommended, so I 
decided to enable it. I logged out and back in, as directed.

I haven't got a clue what the advantage is and I don't see any difference, 
except that there is now an applet in the system tray that says "no input 
window", but when I start firefox, it says "english default layout (intl)".

ibus is recommended, but what am I getting here? I don't see any difference, 
excepting the (useless) applet.

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Re: synchronize time

[jdow]

On 2012/03/08 09:37, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 03/08/2012 08:47 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote:

But most of all go away attacking someone else secure behind your email
no-reply screen.


That just stops you from taking this to private email and makes sure the
discussion stays on the list.


Private email (and long time knowledge of Aaron) led to clearing up the
ambiguities. I tried to explain it to the list answering Tim's emails.
But he was knowledge resistant.

I'd been surprised Aaron had this particular problem and misunderstood
his fix as he described it. Two emails cleared it right up. And I am indeed
sorry I'd misunderstood him.

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Re: nx

[Patrick Dupre]

This email reöains without response.


On Sun, 26 Feb 2012, Aram J. Agajanian wrote:


On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 23:34:32 + (GMT)
Patrick Dupre  wrote:


After:
nxserver --keygen

I have:

/usr/NX/share/keys
total 6
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root 668 Feb 26 00:01 default.id_dsa.key
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root 668 Feb 19 14:40 default.id_dsa.key.backup
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root 668 May 28  2007 server.id_dsa.key


and

/usr/NX/etc/keys/
total 4
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root 603 Dec 19  2010 node.localhost.id_dsa.pub
-rw---. 1 nx   root 672 Dec 19  2010 node.localhost.id_dsa



I'm not entirely familiar with this configuration.  I have always used
freenx-server.  My comments below are adapting what you have described
to the method used by freenx-server.

What is the home directory of the nx user?  freenx-server creates a
directory called /var/lib/nxserver/home for this.  You can check the
home directory with the command:

getent passwd nx


So, I get:
nx:x:491:483::/usr/NX/home/nx:/usr/NX/bin/nxserver



The home directory is the sixth field in the passwd record.

When the nx user tries to log in with public key authentication, sshd
looks for a .ssh directory inside nx's home directory.  Inside the .ssh
directory, there is a file called something like authorized_keys which
is used to verify that NX Client has the correct client key.

I would say that all of the files in nx's .ssh directory should be owned
by nx and have permissions of -rw---, or 600.


LS /usr/NX/home/nx/.ssh/
total 8
-rw---. 2 nx root 668 Feb 26 00:01 authorized_keys2
-rw---. 2 nx root 668 Feb 26 00:01 default.id_dsa.pub
-rw---. 1 nx root 668 Feb  2  2010 default.id_dsa.pub.backup
-rw---. 1 nx root 668 Feb  2  2010 restore.id_dsa.pub






I do not understand:

then just go and recopy the key from inside the client .key file in
the shared keys directory and paste it in your NX CLIENT and the
connection will then complete successfully.



Here are instructions on how to paste a client key into NX Client:

NoMachine's NX Client has an Advanced Configuration dialog window (aka
Configure...) with several tabs.  The first tab, called General,
has a section called Server.  In the Server section, press the Key...
button.  This brings up a new window.

In the new window there is a text area where you can erase the key that
comes with NX Client and paste in your own client key.


I can erase and paste the file (from the server) 
/usr/NX/home/nx/.ssh/authorized_keys2

(using cat)

no-port-forwarding,no-agent-forwarding,command="/usr/NX/bin/nxserver 
--login" ssh-dss 
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




Once the key is pasted in, click the Import button to save it.

Why import?
If I try to import it ask me for a file t open.
Why just not only save?
But the key is now on one line while the previous one was over 10 lines.
Is it OK?

 The

small window with the client key text area should disappear.

OK


Then press the OK button on the Advanced configuration dialog to save
you changes.


Now, I get:
DSA key is corrupted or has been protected with a passphrase

How can I check the key?

Thank.


Note that each host configured in NX Client has its own private key.




On the server
I deleted /usr/NX/share/keys/default.id_dsa.key

and copy the key:
/usr/NX/share/keys/default.id_dsa.key
of the client on the server.
I also tried do copy in
/usr/NX/etc/keys/

nxserver --restart

But still does not work.



It seems like default.id_dsa.key is the client (private) key in your
configuration.

However, the server doesn't use client key.  It uses the public key in
a special file called authorized_keys.  (That is what sshd will look
for when the NX Client tries to log in as the nx user with public key
authentication.)







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[389-users] Announcing 389 Directory Server version 1.2.10.3 Testing

[Rich Megginson]

The 389 Project team is pleased to announce the release of 
389-ds-base-1.2.10.3.  No new features were added after alpha 8, just 
many bug fixes.  There are also 389-adminutil, 389-admin, and 389-dsgw 
packages in Testing.


NEW: EL6 support

Beginning with RHEL 6.2, the 389-ds-base package is included in the base 
OS.  Therefore, the 389-ds-base package can no longer be provided via 
EPEL, due to RHEL/EPEL packaging restrictions.


However, the 389 Project will still make the full 389-ds-base package 
available via http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/rmeggins/389-ds-base. 
 See http://directory.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Download for more information.


NEW: Issue Tracking System

We have moved our ticket tracking system from the Red Hat Bugzilla 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=389 to our Fedora 
Hosted Trac https://fedorahosted.org/389. All of the old 389 bugs have 
been copied to Trac. All new bugs, feature requests, and tasks should be 
entered in Trac


This link shows all of the issues fixed in the 1.2.10 branch - 
https://fedorahosted.org/389/report/12
In addition to the tickets for Milestone 1.2.10.3 there were a couple of 
issues found by valgrind that have been fixed.


NEW: Plugin Authors

WARNING: Plugins should be made transaction aware so that they can be 
called from within a backend pre/post transaction plugin. Otherwise,
attempting to perform an internal operation will cause a deadlock. See 
http://directory.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Plugins


Installation

 yum install --enablerepo=updates-testing 389-ds
 # or for EPEL
 yum install --enablerepo=epel-testing 
[--enablerepo=epel-testing-389-ds-base] 389-ds

 setup-ds-admin.pl

Upgrade

 yum upgrade --enablerepo=updates-testing 389-ds-base 
idm-console-framework 389-admin 389-ds-console 389-admin-console 
389-dsgw 389-adminutil

 # or for EPEL
 yum upgrade --enablerepo=epel-testing 
[--enablerepo=epel-testing-389-ds-base] 389-ds-base 
idm-console-framework 389-admin 389-ds-console 389-admin-console 
389-dsgw 389-adminutil

 setup-ds-admin.pl -u

How to Give Feedback

The best way to provide feedback is via the Fedora Update system.

* Go to https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates
* In the Search box in the upper right hand corner, type in the name of 
the package
* In the list, find the version and release you are using (if you're not 
sure, use rpm -qi  on your system) and click on the release
* On the page for the update, scroll down to "Add a comment" and provide 
your input


Or just send us an email to 389-us...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Reporting Issues

https://fedorahosted.org/389

More Information
* Release Notes - http://port389.org/wiki/Release_Notes
* Install_Guide - http://port389.org/wiki/Install_Guide
* Download - http://port389.org/wiki/Download


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wmic from Linux, wmi-client or winexe

[Gary Stainburn]

Hi folks.

Judging by google this is a can of worms that has been opened a number of 
times but I thought I'd have another go.

I am (re-)implementing a backup solution using Bacula, which has got me 
looking at administering Windows clients from my Linux Bacula server.

I have managed to get winexe working and can connect to Windows clients.  
However, as soon as I try to run wmic, with or without arguments it just 
hangs.  

I have tried using echo and STDIN redirect to try to resolve this as some 
posts seem to indicate that wmic is waiting input but this has not made any 
difference.

by VNCing to a client and doing Start->Run->cmd.exe I can use wmic no problem.

Can anyone help?

Gary
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Re: [389-users] Replacing a DS server

[Rich Megginson]

On 03/08/2012 10:45 AM, Gerhardus Geldenhuis wrote:
Not sure I was much help. I am sure Rich will jump into the 
conversation. I am proper back at work next week and can then dig 
around and give you a more complete answer with regards to exact steps 
if you can wait that long.


Regards

On 8 March 2012 17:37, > wrote:


@Gerhardus - Thanks for your help. I inherited the setup. 2
servers with multi-master replication on RH 5.6 / 5.7. The new
replacement server will be CentOS 6.2. Version info follows.


Are you going to reuse the hostnames as well as the IP addresses?


The “old” RH servers:

[root@x-389-01 src]# ns-slapd -v

389 Project

389-Directory/1.2.2 B2009.237.2042

[root@x-389-02 ~]# ns-slapd -v

389 Project

389-Directory/1.2.2 B2009.237.2042

The CentOS server:

[root@x-389-01_v ~]# ns-slapd -v

389 Project

389-Directory/1.2.10.3  B2012.065.2318

Mike

*From:*389-users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org

[mailto:389-users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org
] *On Behalf Of
*Gerhardus Geldenhuis
*Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2012 10:23 AM
*To:* General discussion list for the 389 Directory server project.
*Subject:* Re: [389-users] Replacing a DS server

Hi

Its difficult to say wiithout knowing how you have configured your
two servers...

In setups that I have had previosly I just rebuild the server (OS)
and install 389.

before I continue I remove the "old" server from the config
database as that was multimastered as well.

I then continue the 389 registration by running setup-ds.pl


I have lost my exact steps that I have followed but basically if
you have a multimaster environment the new server will just be
viewed as a very out of date master and for a while will be busy.
You can populate it from the gui which will repopulate the database.


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Re: [389-users] Replacing a DS server

[Gerhardus Geldenhuis]

Not sure I was much help. I am sure Rich will jump into the conversation. I
am proper back at work next week and can then dig around and give you a
more complete answer with regards to exact steps if you can wait that long.

Regards

On 8 March 2012 17:37,  wrote:

> @Gerhardus - Thanks for your help. I inherited the setup. 2 servers with
> multi-master replication on RH 5.6 / 5.7. The new replacement server will
> be CentOS 6.2. Version info follows.
>
> ** **
>
> The “old” RH servers:
>
> [root@x-389-01 src]# ns-slapd -v
>
> 389 Project
>
> 389-Directory/1.2.2 B2009.237.2042
>
> ** **
>
> [root@x-389-02 ~]# ns-slapd -v
>
> 389 Project
>
> 389-Directory/1.2.2 B2009.237.2042
>
> ** **
>
> The CentOS server:
>
> [root@x-389-01_v ~]# ns-slapd -v
>
> 389 Project
>
> 389-Directory/1.2.10.3 B2012.065.2318
>
> ** **
>
> Mike
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* 389-users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:
> 389-users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] *On Behalf Of *Gerhardus
> Geldenhuis
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2012 10:23 AM
> *To:* General discussion list for the 389 Directory server project.
> *Subject:* Re: [389-users] Replacing a DS server
>
> ** **
>
> Hi
>
> Its difficult to say wiithout knowing how you have configured your two
> servers...
>
> ** **
>
> In setups that I have had previosly I just rebuild the server (OS) and
> install 389.
>
> before I continue I remove the "old" server from the config database as
> that was multimastered as well.
>
> I then continue the 389 registration by running setup-ds.pl
>
> I have lost my exact steps that I have followed but basically if you have
> a multimaster environment the new server will just be viewed as a very out
> of date master and for a while will be busy. You can populate it from the
> gui which will repopulate the database. 
>
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Re: Strange message at startup

[suvayu ali]

On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 17:31, Aaron Konstam  wrote:
>
> It is even easier. After you put in your login name there is a window on
> the screen where you can chose thew window manager to boot.

Actually that is the way to switch desktop environments, not display
managers. A display manager is the interface which lets you login,
where as a desktop environment is the interface that you get after
login.

Display manager: gdm, kdm, xdm

Desktop environment: Gnome, KDE, XFCE, LXDE

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Re: [389-users] Replacing a DS server

[mjames]

@Gerhardus - Thanks for your help. I inherited the setup. 2 servers with 
multi-master replication on RH 5.6 / 5.7. The new replacement server will be 
CentOS 6.2. Version info follows.

The "old" RH servers:
[root@x-389-01 src]# ns-slapd -v
389 Project
389-Directory/1.2.2 B2009.237.2042

[root@x-389-02 ~]# ns-slapd -v
389 Project
389-Directory/1.2.2 B2009.237.2042

The CentOS server:
[root@x-389-01_v ~]# ns-slapd -v
389 Project
389-Directory/1.2.10.3 B2012.065.2318

Mike


From: 389-users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
[mailto:389-users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Gerhardus 
Geldenhuis
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 10:23 AM
To: General discussion list for the 389 Directory server project.
Subject: Re: [389-users] Replacing a DS server

Hi
Its difficult to say wiithout knowing how you have configured your two 
servers...

In setups that I have had previosly I just rebuild the server (OS) and install 
389.
before I continue I remove the "old" server from the config database as that 
was multimastered as well.
I then continue the 389 registration by running setup-ds.pl
I have lost my exact steps that I have followed but basically if you have a 
multimaster environment the new server will just be viewed as a very out of 
date master and for a while will be busy. You can populate it from the gui 
which will repopulate the database.
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Re: synchronize time

[Joe Zeff]

On 03/08/2012 08:47 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote:

But most of all go away attacking someone else secure behind your email
no-reply screen.


That just stops you from taking this to private email and makes sure the 
discussion stays on the list.

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Re: Problem with RTL8178

[Joe Zeff]

On 03/08/2012 02:44 AM, Jonathan Allen wrote:


a. F16 without Gnome 3


My pick.  You don't have to use Gnome to use Fedora and many of us 
don't.  I use XFCE, many others use KDE and there are lots of other 
choices out there.

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Re: synchronize time

[jdow]

On 2012/03/08 08:47, Aaron Konstam wrote:

TO NO-REPLY TIM WITH LOVE AND SQUALOR.

On Thu, 2012-03-08 at 18:20 +1030, Tim wrote:


Cause and effect:  Has CUPS stopped working because UTC is set?  Is
the
time set wrong, and has CUPS stopped working because the time is set
wrong?  Is CUPS faulty?  Has CUPS merely indicated that something else
is wrong?

Misdiagnosis:  CUPS browsing has stopped working.  Hmm, I'll blame
CUPS,
and the UTC flag.

Correct diagnosis:  CUPS browsing has stopped working.  Changing UTC
flag changes behaviour.  Investigate whether I've got the clock set
right.  Does setting the time configuration cause CUPS to start
working
properly again?  Yes, there's nothing wrong with CUPS, the fault was
external.

Of course, if you don't understand how to properly set the clocks,
you're going to paint yourself into a corner with the wrong diagnosis.

I've brought up CUPS again, as the original posting used it as the
thing
that noticed a problem, the original poster continually insisted CUPS
had a problem (when it didn't), right up to the last post they
responded
to me on the list with.

Now onto discussing time, as time setting is the problem, CUPS was
just
the thing that brought the error to people's attention.


  Do you mean UTC time zone setting


I'd never seen a UTC "timezone" setting, nor even heard of anyone
referring to one.  Likewise with Greenwich Mean Time.  It's not a zone
(GMT or UTC), as such, but a reference point.  Only KDE seems to offer
it as a choice, and it's a highly illogical choice.  And I'd not
mentioned, in any way, UTC as a timezone setting in prior messages.



I wish you would stop posting this crap:
1. My clocks were set correctly, and I know how to set the clocks.
2. I never said the problem was a defect with CUPS. I just saw the
problem with CUPS browsing. -
3. If you have never seen a UTC setting choice with time zone setting
you have not been watching the screens you get when you install a Fedora
16 disk. Run system-config-date and choose the time zone option and you
will see it.

But most of all go away attacking someone else secure behind your email
no-reply screen.


Don't bother to reply to the nurb. He's more akin to troll than help. Either
that or he is more ignorant than anybody who claims knowledge should be.

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Tracker crashes

[Jonathan Ryshpan]

What is "Tracker" and why is it crashing all the time?  Almost every
time I start my system, I get an Abrt warning with this message:

Process /usr/libexec/tracker-extract was killed by signal 11
(SIGSEGV)

The system is a 4 processor running KDE-4.7.4 under Fedora-16 with all
upgrades installed.

Thanks - jon

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Re: synchronize time

[Aaron Konstam]

TO NO-REPLY TIM WITH LOVE AND SQUALOR.

On Thu, 2012-03-08 at 18:20 +1030, Tim wrote:
> 
> Cause and effect:  Has CUPS stopped working because UTC is set?  Is
> the
> time set wrong, and has CUPS stopped working because the time is set
> wrong?  Is CUPS faulty?  Has CUPS merely indicated that something else
> is wrong?
> 
> Misdiagnosis:  CUPS browsing has stopped working.  Hmm, I'll blame
> CUPS,
> and the UTC flag.
> 
> Correct diagnosis:  CUPS browsing has stopped working.  Changing UTC
> flag changes behaviour.  Investigate whether I've got the clock set
> right.  Does setting the time configuration cause CUPS to start
> working
> properly again?  Yes, there's nothing wrong with CUPS, the fault was
> external.
> 
> Of course, if you don't understand how to properly set the clocks,
> you're going to paint yourself into a corner with the wrong diagnosis.
> 
> I've brought up CUPS again, as the original posting used it as the
> thing
> that noticed a problem, the original poster continually insisted CUPS
> had a problem (when it didn't), right up to the last post they
> responded
> to me on the list with.
> 
> Now onto discussing time, as time setting is the problem, CUPS was
> just
> the thing that brought the error to people's attention.
> 
> >  Do you mean UTC time zone setting
> 
> I'd never seen a UTC "timezone" setting, nor even heard of anyone
> referring to one.  Likewise with Greenwich Mean Time.  It's not a zone
> (GMT or UTC), as such, but a reference point.  Only KDE seems to offer
> it as a choice, and it's a highly illogical choice.  And I'd not
> mentioned, in any way, UTC as a timezone setting in prior messages.
> 
> 
I wish you would stop posting this crap:
1. My clocks were set correctly, and I know how to set the clocks.
2. I never said the problem was a defect with CUPS. I just saw the
problem with CUPS browsing. -
3. If you have never seen a UTC setting choice with time zone setting
you have not been watching the screens you get when you install a Fedora
16 disk. Run system-config-date and choose the time zone option and you
will see it.

But most of all go away attacking someone else secure behind your email
no-reply screen.



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Re: Is there some trick to booting F16 minimal install CD?

[Michael Hennebry]

On Wed, 7 Mar 2012, Michael Hennebry wrote:


I made a minimal CD to start an install from hard drive.
It doesn't work.



How do I debug this?


Most recently I used tab and backspaced over quiet.
Since I didn't have a running system, I had to copy the result by hand:
[1.429346] ---cut here---
kernel BUG at arch/x86/kernel/traps.c:531!
invalid opcode  [#1] SMP
Modules linked in:

Pid 1: 1, comm: swapper Not tainted 3.1.0-7.f16.i686 #1 Daktech**DT6000*
/D865GBF
EIP: 0060:[] EFLAGS: 00010006 CPU: 1
EIP is at do_nmi+0x22/0x280
EAX: ec498000  EBX: 9ed363a7  ECX:   EDX: ec499b0c
ESI: ec499b38  EDI: c0a5c746  EBP: ec499b30  ESP: ec499b0c
DS: 007b  ES: 007b  FS: 00d8  GS: 00e0  SS: 0068
Process swapper (pid: 1, t:=0c49  task=ec49000  task.ti=ec498?00)
Stack:
 0002 0001 0005 ec499bc8 9ed3c63a7 ?f8ce356
c0a5c746 ecbcb8c0 c08117bc 9ed363a7  ff8ce356  ?0a5c746
ecbcb8c0 54b2 c05c00b7 007b 00e0 54b2  ?05c9745
call trace

Every line began [1.429346]
The *s represent little circles.
The question marks are the result of wrap-around and
my screen apparently being 79.7 characters wide.
I expect that they should be the same as the hex digits following them.

Any ideas?

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Re: Strange message at startup

[Aaron Konstam]

On Wed, 2012-03-07 at 19:46 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: 
> On Wed, 2012-03-07 at 12:13 -0800, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
> > Unfortunately a search of /var/log as root:
> > # find -type f | xargs fgrep Administrator
> > returns nothing.  It looks like the display manager is gdm, since 
> > /var/log/gdm exists and no other /var/log/*dm does. This may be a
> > problem, since I use KDE.
> 
> It's easy to change to KDM. Create a /etc/sysconfig/desktop file
> containing:
> 
> DISPLAYMANAGER=KDE
> 
> and reboot.
> 
> poc
> 

It is even easier. After you put in your login name there is a window on
the screen where you can chose thew window manager to boot.
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Re: Permanently set screen brightness

[Aaron Konstam]

> Hello list,
>
> Is there any file that I must edit which sets the default screen
> brightness to the maximum, so I don't need to change it every time I
> restart my computer?

On Thu, 2012-03-08 at 10:06 +0100, Andras Simon wrote:
> echo 10 > /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness

There is no such file structure on my Dell laptop Latitude D810.
Where you have acpi_videos on a dell you have; dell_backlight. None of
the files in that directory do what you are attempting to do.
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Re: perlTk

[Dave Mitchell]

On Thu, Mar 08, 2012 at 03:07:55PM +, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> My understanding is that there is 2 Tk installed:
> perl-Tk-804.028-12.fc14.i686
> in /usr/lib/perl5
> and one in
> /usr/local/lib/perl5
> which probably due to cpan
> Tk-804.029-pvHDks
> Some perl packages are not available
> from fedora and I had to use cpan. It looks like that a second Tk had
> then be installed.
> cpan does not allow to uninstall the packages, thus I probably
> need to do it manually, or is it better to uninstall the rpm package?

Well, the installation under /usr/local seems to be older, and seems to be
broken (it's missing Tk.so), so I'd stick with the rpm version.  Just
manually delete the various Tk* files from under /usr/local, as listed
earlier.


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Re: IPTable Rules... again

[Reindl Harald]

Am 08.03.2012 16:16, schrieb nu...@gmx.com:
> for some reason I can't make a connection to the external mail 
> server from inside the lan. even from the 10.0.0.3 address which
> should be allowed to do anything. everything used to work when i 
> used MASQUERADing but stopped once i switched to SNAT. Can anybody 
> help me? What am I doing wrong??

what you are doing wrong is change working things
the following works perfectly (eth1: WAN, eth0: LAN)

iptables -t filter -P INPUT ACCEPT
iptables -t filter -P FORWARD ACCEPT
iptables -t filter -P OUTPUT ACCEPT
iptables -t nat -P PREROUTING ACCEPT
iptables -t nat -P POSTROUTING ACCEPT
iptables -A FORWARD -i eth1 -d 192.168.1.0/24 -j ACCEPT
ipatbles -A POSTROUTING -t nat -s 192.168.1.0/24 -o eth1 -j MASQUERADE


what is this

-A INPUT -i eth1 -j ACCEPT

you do not really want input independent of the state

iptables -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT



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IPTable Rules... again

[nullv]

Hi,

I have the following  rules on my router/gateway: 

*nat
:PREROUTING ACCEPT 
:INPUT ACCEPT 
:OUTPUT ACCEPT 
:POSTROUTING ACCEPT 
-A POSTROUTING -d 93.186.25.52/32 -m comment --comment "bb" -j SNAT --to-source 
41.94.39.49-41.94.39.51
-A POSTROUTING -s 10.0.0.0/8 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 53 -m comment --comment 
"domain" o eth0 -j SNAT --to-source 41.94.39.49-41.94.39.51
-A POSTROUTING -s 10.0.0.0/8 -p udp -m udp --dport 53 -m comment --comment 
"domain" -j SNAT --to-source 41.94.39.49-41.94.39.51
-A POSTROUTING -s 10.0.0.0/8 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 995 -m comment --comment 
"pop3s" -j SNAT --to-source 41.94.39.49-41.94.39.51
-A POSTROUTING -s 10.0.0.0/8 -p udp -m udp --dport 995 -m comment --comment 
"pop3s" -j SNAT --to-source 41.94.39.49-41.94.39.51
-A POSTROUTING -s 10.0.0.0/8 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 587 -m comment --comment 
"submission" -j SNAT --to-source 41.94.39.49-41.94.39.51
-A POSTROUTING -s 10.0.0.0/8 -p udp -m udp --dport 587 -m comment --comment 
"submission" -j SNAT --to-source 41.94.39.49-41.94.39.51
-A POSTROUTING -s 10.0.0.3/32 -j o eth0 -j SNAT --to-source 
41.94.39.49-41.94.39.51
COMMIT
*filter
:INPUT ACCEPT 
:FORWARD ACCEPT 
:OUTPUT ACCEPT 
-A INPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -p icmp -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -i eth1 -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-host-prohibited
-A FORWARD -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
-A FORWARD -p icmp -j ACCEPT
-A FORWARD -i lo -j ACCEPT
-A FORWARD -i eth1 -o eth0 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 53 -m comment --comment 
"domain" -j ACCEPT
-A FORWARD -i eth1 -o eth0 -p udp -m udp --dport 53 -m comment --comment 
"domain" -j ACCEPT
-A FORWARD -i eth1 -o eth0 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 995 -m comment --comment 
"pop3s" -j ACCEPT
-A FORWARD -i eth1 -o eth0 -p udp -m udp --dport 995 -m comment --comment 
"pop3s" -j ACCEPT
-A FORWARD -i eth1 -o eth0 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 587 -m comment --comment 
"submission" -j ACCEPT
-A FORWARD -i eth1 -o eth0 -p udp -m udp --dport 587 -m comment --comment 
"submission" -j ACCEPT
-A FORWARD -s 10.0.0.3/32 -i eth1 -o eth0 -j ACCEPT
-A FORWARD -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-host-prohibited
COMMIT

for some reason I can't make a connection to the external mail server from 
inside the lan. even from the 10.0.0.3 address which should be allowed to do 
anything.
everything used to work when i used MASQUERADing but stopped once i switched to 
SNAT. 
Can anybody help me? What am I doing wrong??

Thanks
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[389-users] Replacing a DS server

[mjames]

We are replacing one of our two 389 servers. I want to re-use the IP address of 
the old server on the new one. What's the correct order of events for 
replication, shutdown and replacement?

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Re: perlTk

[Patrick Dupre]

On Thu, Mar 08, 2012 at 01:58:46PM +, Patrick Dupre wrote:

No, it does help.
This 2 variables are just set to be able to call my own perl libraries
I have the same issue without setting them.


Ok, in that case, could you run the following script, using the perl
you're having trouble with:

   for (@INC) {
next unless -d;
print "$_\n";
system("find $_ -name 'Tk.*' -ls");
   }

Also, when replying to this email, could you use the standard quoting
convention ('> ') when including text from the person you;re replying to;
otherwise it makes it extremely difficult to see who wrote what, thanks.


/usr/local/lib/perl5
525139   20 -r--r--r--   1 root root18483 May 27  2010 
/usr/local/lib/perl5/Tk.pm
5251824 -r--r--r--   1 root root 3140 Feb 10  2007 
/usr/local/lib/perl5/Tk/Tk.xbm
5253344 -r--r--r--   1 root root 1326 Feb 10  2007 
/usr/local/lib/perl5/Tk/Tk.xpm
5250910 -r--r--r--   1 root root0 Nov 10  2010 
/usr/local/lib/perl5/auto/Tk/Tk.bs
5251388 -r--r--r--   1 root root 6388 Feb 10  2007 
/usr/local/lib/perl5/Tk.pod

/usr/local/share/perl5
/usr/lib/perl5
  73948 -rw-r--r--   1 root root 6431 Oct 24  2009 
/usr/lib/perl5/PDL/Graphics/TriD/Tk.pm
  78574 -rw-r--r--   1 root root 1326 May 13  2010 
/usr/lib/perl5/Tk/Tk.xpm
  78564 -rw-r--r--   1 root root 3140 May 13  2010 
/usr/lib/perl5/Tk/Tk.xbm
  8191  908 -rwxr-xr-x   1 root root   929268 May 13  2010 
/usr/lib/perl5/auto/Tk/Tk.so
139128   20 -rw-r--r--   1 root root18487 May 13  2010 
/usr/lib/perl5/Tk.pm
1417208 -rw-r--r--   1 root root 6388 May 13  2010 
/usr/lib/perl5/Tk.pod

/usr/share/perl5
/usr/lib/perl5
  73948 -rw-r--r--   1 root root 6431 Oct 24  2009 
/usr/lib/perl5/PDL/Graphics/TriD/Tk.pm
  78574 -rw-r--r--   1 root root 1326 May 13  2010 
/usr/lib/perl5/Tk/Tk.xpm
  78564 -rw-r--r--   1 root root 3140 May 13  2010 
/usr/lib/perl5/Tk/Tk.xbm
  8191  908 -rwxr-xr-x   1 root root   929268 May 13  2010 
/usr/lib/perl5/auto/Tk/Tk.so
139128   20 -rw-r--r--   1 root root18487 May 13  2010 
/usr/lib/perl5/Tk.pm
1417208 -rw-r--r--   1 root root 6388 May 13  2010 
/usr/lib/perl5/Tk.pod

/usr/share/perl5
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.10.0/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl


My understanding is that there is 2 Tk installed:
perl-Tk-804.028-12.fc14.i686
in /usr/lib/perl5
and one in
/usr/local/lib/perl5
which probably due to cpan
Tk-804.029-pvHDks
Some perl packages are not available
from fedora and I had to use cpan. It looks like that a second Tk had
then be installed.
cpan does not allow to uninstall the packages, thus I probably
need to do it manually, or is it better to uninstall the rpm package?

Thank for your help.

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Re: Problem with RTL8178

[Jonathan Allen]

Dear Dale (and others who helped),

> I'd recommend F16 with XFCE.
> 
> Install XFCE and then change or create /etc/sysconfig/desktop to:
> 
> $ cat /etc/sysconfig/desktop
> PREFERRED=/usr/bin/startxfce4
> 
> Or just re-install the system from the F16 Live XFCE CD,
> which is what I did.
> 
> I've been using this combo on my Dell Latitude E6410 and an older
> Dell Latitude D630, and I'm very pleased with it.

I'm downloading the F16 DVD now (2Mb broadband takes time) and will update
the laptop using 'update' mode.  Thank you to all.

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Re: perlTk

[Dave Mitchell]

On Thu, Mar 08, 2012 at 01:58:46PM +, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> No, it does help.
> This 2 variables are just set to be able to call my own perl libraries
> I have the same issue without setting them.

Ok, in that case, could you run the following script, using the perl
you're having trouble with:

for (@INC) {
next unless -d;
print "$_\n";
system("find $_ -name 'Tk.*' -ls");
}

Also, when replying to this email, could you use the standard quoting
convention ('> ') when including text from the person you;re replying to;
otherwise it makes it extremely difficult to see who wrote what, thanks.


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Re: perlTk

[Patrick Dupre]

On Thu, 8 Mar 2012, Dave Mitchell wrote:


On Thu, Mar 08, 2012 at 12:13:30PM +, Patrick Dupre wrote:
On Thu, 8 Mar 2012, Dave Mitchell wrote:
> This means that the version number in the perl file Tk.pm doesn't match
> the version number in the compiled binary Tk.so. Why they differ is
> probably down to how Tk was installed or upgraded; or its possible that
> an environment variable (e.g. LD_LIBRARY_PATH or PERL5LIB) is set, causing
> perl to pick up the two files from two different installations.
> 
> perl -V will show you what paths perl is picking up.





Here is my perl -V

[snip]

PERL5LIB=":/home/pdupre/perl_lib/i386-linux-thread-multi:/home/pdupre/perl_lib/i386-linux-thread-multi"
PERL_LIB="/home/pdupre/perl_lib/i386-linux-thread-multi"



But I do not see anything about Tk!

The problem appear after an upgrade from fedora 13 to 14.


Your PERL5LIB and PERL_LIB environment variables are pointing to an area
which might be a separate perl installation, or may contain Tk files that
were built under an older perl, hence the mixing of versions.

As a test, try unsetting those two variables and see if you can load Tk:

$ bash# start a subshell
$ unset PERL5LIB PERL_LIB
$ perl -MTk -e 1
$ exit

No, it does help.
This 2 variables are just set to be able to call my own perl libraries
I have the same issue without setting them.



if that runs without errors, then that will confirm the location of the
problem. After that, you'll need to decide why those variables were set,
and whether you need to do something similar for your new environment.

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Re: Problem with RTL8178

[Dale Dellutri]

On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 4:44 AM, Jonathan Allen
 wrote:
> I have an old laptop that got upgraded this week from WinXP to F14 after a
> massive virus/trojan hit :-(
>
> The laptop has the Realtek RTL8178 wireless chipset and did wireless fine in
> WinXP.  Although it can see the wireless network fine, it won't connect in
> F14.
>
> I downloaded the F16 Live CD and the wireless works and connects perfectly,
> so whatever was wrong with the RTL8178 stuff has been fixed between F14 and
> F16.  However, as far as this laptop is concerned, F16 has downgraded to
> Gnome3, which the laptop can't run.
>
> The choices seem to be:
>
>   a. F16 without Gnome 3
>
>   b. back-fitting the working RTL8178 stuff into the (otherwise fine)
>       F14 installation
>
> Recommendations or instructions?

I'd recommend F16 with XFCE.

Install XFCE and then change or create /etc/sysconfig/desktop to:

$ cat /etc/sysconfig/desktop
PREFERRED=/usr/bin/startxfce4

Or just re-install the system from the F16 Live XFCE CD,
which is what I did.

I've been using this combo on my Dell Latitude E6410 and an older
Dell Latitude D630, and I'm very pleased with it.

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Re: perlTk

[Dave Mitchell]

On Thu, Mar 08, 2012 at 12:13:30PM +, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Mar 2012, Dave Mitchell wrote:
> > This means that the version number in the perl file Tk.pm doesn't match
> > the version number in the compiled binary Tk.so. Why they differ is
> > probably down to how Tk was installed or upgraded; or its possible that
> > an environment variable (e.g. LD_LIBRARY_PATH or PERL5LIB) is set, causing
> > perl to pick up the two files from two different installations.
> > 
> > perl -V will show you what paths perl is picking up.
> 

> Here is my perl -V
[snip]
> PERL5LIB=":/home/pdupre/perl_lib/i386-linux-thread-multi:/home/pdupre/perl_lib/i386-linux-thread-multi"
> PERL_LIB="/home/pdupre/perl_lib/i386-linux-thread-multi"

> But I do not see anything about Tk!
> 
> The problem appear after an upgrade from fedora 13 to 14.

Your PERL5LIB and PERL_LIB environment variables are pointing to an area
which might be a separate perl installation, or may contain Tk files that
were built under an older perl, hence the mixing of versions.

As a test, try unsetting those two variables and see if you can load Tk:

$ bash# start a subshell
$ unset PERL5LIB PERL_LIB
$ perl -MTk -e 1
$ exit

if that runs without errors, then that will confirm the location of the
problem. After that, you'll need to decide why those variables were set,
and whether you need to do something similar for your new environment.

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Re: perlTk

[Patrick Dupre]

On Thu, 8 Mar 2012, Dave Mitchell wrote:


On Wed, Mar 07, 2012 at 03:20:20PM +, Patrick Dupre wrote:
Hello,

How would you fix such an error:
Tk object version 804.028503 does not match $Tk::XS_VERSION 804.029
at /usr/lib/perl5/DynaLoader.pm line 223


This means that the version number in the perl file Tk.pm doesn't match
the version number in the compiled binary Tk.so. Why they differ is
probably down to how Tk was installed or upgraded; or its possible that
an environment variable (e.g. LD_LIBRARY_PATH or PERL5LIB) is set, causing
perl to pick up the two files from two different installations.

perl -V will show you what paths perl is picking up.


Thank for the help,

Here is my perl -V

Summary of my perl5 (revision 5 version 12 subversion 4) configuration:

  Platform:
osname=linux, osvers=2.6.32-131.2.1.el6.x86_64, 
archname=i386-linux-thread-multi
uname='linux x86-02.phx2.fedoraproject.org 2.6.32-131.2.1.el6.x86_64 
#1 smp wed may 18 07:07:37 edt 2011 i686 i686 i386 gnulinux '
config_args='-des -Doptimize=-O2 -g -pipe -Wall 
-Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions -fstack-protector 
--param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m32 -march=i686 -mtune=atom 
-fasynchronous-unwind-tables -Dccdlflags=-Wl,--enable-new-dtags 
-DDEBUGGING=-g -Dversion=5.12.4 -Dmyhostname=localhost 
-Dperladmin=root@localhost -Dcc=gcc -Dcf_by=Red Hat, Inc. -Dprefix=/usr 
-Dvendorprefix=/usr -Dsiteprefix=/usr/local 
-Dsitelib=/usr/local/share/perl5 -Dsitearch=/usr/local/lib/perl5 
-Dprivlib=/usr/share/perl5 -Dvendorlib=/usr/share/perl5 
-Darchlib=/usr/lib/perl5 -Dvendorarch=/usr/lib/perl5 
-Darchname=i386-linux-thread-multi -Duseshrplib -Dusethreads -Duseithreads 
-Dusedtrace=/usr/bin/dtrace -Duselargefiles -Dd_semctl_semun -Di_db 
-Ui_ndbm -Di_gdbm -Di_shadow -Di_syslog -Dman3ext=3pm -Duseperlio 
-Dinstallusrbinperl=n -Ubincompat5005 -Uversiononly -Dpager=/usr/bin/less 
-isr -Dd_gethostent_r_proto -Ud_endhostent_r_proto -Ud_sethostent_r_proto 
-Ud_endprotoent_r_proto -Ud_setprotoent_r_proto -Ud_endservent_r_proto 
-Ud_setservent_r_proto -Dscriptdir=/usr/bin 
-Dotherlibdirs=/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.10.0/i386-linux-thread-multi:/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.10.0:/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.10.0/i386-linux-thread-multi:/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl:/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl'

hint=recommended, useposix=true, d_sigaction=define
useithreads=define, usemultiplicity=define
useperlio=define, d_sfio=undef, uselargefiles=define, usesocks=undef
use64bitint=undef, use64bitall=undef, uselongdouble=undef
usemymalloc=n, bincompat5005=undef
  Compiler:
cc='gcc', ccflags ='-D_REENTRANT -D_GNU_SOURCE -fno-strict-aliasing 
-pipe -fstack-protector -I/usr/local/include -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE 
-D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64',
optimize='-O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions 
-fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m32 -march=i686 -mtune=atom 
-fasynchronous-unwind-tables',
cppflags='-D_REENTRANT -D_GNU_SOURCE -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe 
-fstack-protector -I/usr/local/include'
ccversion='', gccversion='4.5.1 20100924 (Red Hat 4.5.1-4)', 
gccosandvers=''

intsize=4, longsize=4, ptrsize=4, doublesize=8, byteorder=1234
d_longlong=define, longlongsize=8, d_longdbl=define, longdblsize=12
ivtype='long', ivsize=4, nvtype='double', nvsize=8, Off_t='off_t', 
lseeksize=8

alignbytes=4, prototype=define
  Linker and Libraries:
ld='gcc', ldflags =' -fstack-protector -L/usr/local/lib'
libpth=/usr/local/lib /lib /usr/lib
libs=-lresolv -lnsl -lgdbm -ldb -ldl -lm -lcrypt -lutil -lpthread -lc 
-lgdbm_compat

perllibs=-lresolv -lnsl -ldl -lm -lcrypt -lutil -lpthread -lc
libc=/lib/libc-2.13.so, so=so, useshrplib=true, libperl=libperl.so
gnulibc_version='2.13'
  Dynamic Linking:
dlsrc=dl_dlopen.xs, dlext=so, d_dlsymun=undef, 
ccdlflags='-Wl,--enable-new-dtags -Wl,-rpath,/usr/lib/perl5/CORE'
cccdlflags='-fPIC', lddlflags='-shared -O2 -g -pipe -Wall 
-Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions -fstack-protector 
--param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m32 -march=i686 -mtune=atom 
-fasynchronous-unwind-tables -L/usr/local/lib'



Characteristics of this binary (from libperl):
  Compile-time options: MULTIPLICITY PERL_DONT_CREATE_GVSV
PERL_IMPLICIT_CONTEXT PERL_MALLOC_WRAP 
USE_ITHREADS

USE_LARGE_FILES USE_PERLIO USE_PERL_ATOF
USE_REENTRANT_API
  Built under linux
  Compiled at Nov  4 2011 16:23:30
  %ENV:

PERL5LIB=":/home/pdupre/perl_lib/i386-linux-thread-multi:/home/pdupre/perl_lib/i386-linux-thread-multi"
PERL_LIB="/home/pdupre/perl_lib/i386-linux-thread-multi"
  @INC:
/home/pdupre/perl_lib/i386-linux-thread-multi
/home/pdupre/perl_lib/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/local/lib/perl5
/usr/local/share/perl5
/usr/lib/perl5
/usr/share/perl5
/usr/lib/perl5
/usr/share/perl5
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.10.0/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.10.0
/usr/

Re: perlTk

[Dave Mitchell]

On Wed, Mar 07, 2012 at 03:20:20PM +, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> How would you fix such an error:
> Tk object version 804.028503 does not match $Tk::XS_VERSION 804.029
> at /usr/lib/perl5/DynaLoader.pm line 223

This means that the version number in the perl file Tk.pm doesn't match
the version number in the compiled binary Tk.so. Why they differ is
probably down to how Tk was installed or upgraded; or its possible that
an environment variable (e.g. LD_LIBRARY_PATH or PERL5LIB) is set, causing
perl to pick up the two files from two different installations.

perl -V will show you what paths perl is picking up.


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Re: Problem with RTL8178

[Heinz Diehl]

On 08.03.2012, Jonathan Allen wrote: 

> So, as a novice, how do I switch the default desktop on F16 to the old Gnome
> that was used in F14?

This is no longer possible, Fedora decided to go on with Gnome 3. So
the choice is Gnome 3, or one of the other fine desktop environments
as e.g. KDE or XFCE. You can choose your desktop somewhere in the
install process of F16. 

XFCE is fast, stable and is a lot "Gnome-2-alike", so maybe you want
to go with this one..

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Re: Problem with RTL8178

[suvayu ali]

On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 12:23, Jonathan Allen
 wrote:
>> F14 is out of support so security holes in thr browser etc are not being
>> fixed. I'd suggest F16 with another desktop.
>
> So, as a novice, how do I switch the default desktop on F16 to the old Gnome
> that was used in F14?

Another desktop cannot be Gnome 2. Fedora ships only one version of
Gnome, Gnome 3. I would suggest you install KDE, XFCE, LXDE or
whatever suits your tastes. And simply choose the desktop environment
while logging in. That should set the default desktop for future
logins.

If you like using nice GUIs, I would suggest KDE. On the other hand if
you prefer something lightweight, try XFCE or LXDE.

HTH

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Re: Problem with RTL8178

[Jonathan Allen]

Alan,

> > a. F16 without Gnome 3
> > 
> > b. back-fitting the working RTL8178 stuff into the (otherwise fine)
> > F14 installation
> > 
> > Recommendations or instructions?
> 
> F14 is out of support so security holes in thr browser etc are not being
> fixed. I'd suggest F16 with another desktop.

So, as a novice, how do I switch the default desktop on F16 to the old Gnome
that was used in F14?

Jonathan
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Re: Problem with RTL8178

[Alan Cox]

On Thu, 08 Mar 2012 10:44:54 +
Jonathan Allen  wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> I have an old laptop that got upgraded this week from WinXP to F14 after a 
> massive virus/trojan hit :-(
> 
> The laptop has the Realtek RTL8178 wireless chipset and did wireless fine in 
> WinXP.  Although it can see the wireless network fine, it won't connect in 
> F14.
> 
> I downloaded the F16 Live CD and the wireless works and connects perfectly, 
> so 
> whatever was wrong with the RTL8178 stuff has been fixed between F14 and F16. 
>  
> However, as far as this laptop is concerned, F16 has downgraded to Gnome3, 
> which 
> the laptop can't run.
> 
> The choices seem to be:
> 
> a. F16 without Gnome 3
> 
> b. back-fitting the working RTL8178 stuff into the (otherwise fine)
> F14 installation
> 
> Recommendations or instructions?

F14 is out of support so security holes in thr browser etc are not being
fixed. I'd suggest F16 with another desktop.

Alan
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Re: Tech questions on Grub2 and use of gparted on Fedora 16.

[Alan Cox]

On Thu, 08 Mar 2012 15:36:36 +1000
"Michael D. Setzer II"  wrote:

> Possible a little off topic, but issues effect Fedora 16 sytems and 
> grub2. Haven't been able to find detailed info on exactly what is 
> going on with the grub2. If someone knows the info, or where I 
> could find it. Thanks.

Its in theory in the grub2 documentation.

> Later I did the grub2-install --recheck and it gave a message 
> about the area being to small.

Ah you touched it. Don't do that, the Fedora setup is so fragile.
You need to do the grub2-install and tell it to use a map file.



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Problem with RTL8178

[Jonathan Allen]

Hi All,

I have an old laptop that got upgraded this week from WinXP to F14 after a 
massive virus/trojan hit :-(


The laptop has the Realtek RTL8178 wireless chipset and did wireless fine in 
WinXP.  Although it can see the wireless network fine, it won't connect in F14.


I downloaded the F16 Live CD and the wireless works and connects perfectly, so 
whatever was wrong with the RTL8178 stuff has been fixed between F14 and F16.  
However, as far as this laptop is concerned, F16 has downgraded to Gnome3, which 
the laptop can't run.


The choices seem to be:

   a. F16 without Gnome 3

   b. back-fitting the working RTL8178 stuff into the (otherwise fine)
   F14 installation

Recommendations or instructions?

Jonathan
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Re: Problems with webDAV and rsync

[Mirco Vitr]

> I can confirm that after further testing. Just tested cp with larger
>files (around 15 MB) in F16 (not working) and Mac OS X (Snow Leopard,
>working). Rsync also works in OS X. So it seems that indeed davfs2 is
> the problem. Does anybody know an alternative?

Hi everybody,
unfortunately I have the same problem (I want to use davfs2 on my Synology 
Diskstation to automatically backup data to livedrive using local rsync to the 
mounted folder). Copying starts but soon I get input/output errors. :-(
So, does anybody know an alternative to davfs2 or a solution to the problem?
Thanks!
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Re: Permanently set screen brightness

[Andras Simon]

2012/3/7, Bruno Martins :
> Hello list,
>
> Is there any file that I must edit which sets the default screen
> brightness to the maximum, so I don't need to change it every time I
> restart my computer?

If something like

echo 10 > /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness

works for you (as root), then you could put it in /etc/rc.local.
Hopefully your gnome/kde/whatever will not overwrite it.

(I'm not sure about 10 beeing tha maximum. To find the right value,
adjust brightness to your liking and then cat
/sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness)

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Re: synchronize time

[Ed Greshko]

On 03/08/2012 03:50 PM, Tim wrote:
> I'd never seen a UTC "timezone" setting, nor even heard of anyone
> referring to one.

If you look at the headers of all messages coming *from* you to this
list, you will see

Received: from smtp-mm01.fedoraproject.org (smtp-mm01.fedoraproject.org
[80.239.156.217])
by lists.fedoraproject.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03C3C40843
for ;
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for ;
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So, you can no longer claim not to have see one.



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Re: Permanently set screen brightness

[Bruno Martins]

On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Joe Zeff  wrote:

> On 03/07/2012 12:54 AM, Bruno Martins wrote:
>
>> This problem is happening since F15's kernel version (in F14 this didn't
>> happen). It's a "problem" with the kernel version, because I have the
>> same problem on other distros on the same computer.
>>
>
> Are all of the distros using the exact same kernel version?  If not, it's
> not a kernel issue.
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Not exactly the same.
What I should had write was "it's a problem with _recent_ kernel versions",
not one specifically.

I remember that in the past I was struggling with some files to make this
work, and it almost worked. I just don't remember the solution and am
asking here if anyone can help me. ;-)

Best regards,

Bruno
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