Re: Bumblebee on Fedora?

2012-12-06 Thread Alexander Volovics
On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 04:03:45PM +, Dave Cross wrote:

>Bumblebee is a project to enable NVidia's Optimus technology on Linux.
>I have found a number of web pages explaining how to use Bumblebee on
>Fedora, but they all seem to involve downloading and compiling the
>project's source code. Whilst I'm happy to do that if it's necessary, I
>wondered if anyone knew of plans to make pre-built RPMs available in the
>Fedora repositories.

Have a look at this website:
http://techies.ncsu.edu/wiki/bumblebee

There you will find rpms for Fed16, Fed17 and Fed18.
This is work by Gary Gatling. I have not tried the rpms myself yet
because I only use bbswitch and compile it myself.

(I have no need for Nvidia discrete graphics and furthermore the
 support of the nouveau driver for the 'Kepler' family of Nvidia  
 GPUs is abominable, certainly with regard to power management,
 which is actually nonexistent).

There are some problems with getting the rpms officially included
in the Fedora repositories because for example bbswitch is an
out-of-tree kernel module.

A VirtualGL rpm is already available in Fed18.

Alexander


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Re: Bumblebee on Fedora?

2012-12-06 Thread Richard Shaw
On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Richard Shaw  wrote:

>  Well here's a head start for you. I don't have time to pick up any more
> packages but it was pretty simple to package. I ran it through rpmlint and
> there's not too many issues.
>
> I pulled the build requirements from the wiki:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bumblebee
>
> Also, it says it needs VirtualGL which it says is only in F18 so I added
> it as a plain Requires:...
>
> Have fun!
>
> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/34775202/bumblebee-3.0.1-1.fc17.src.rpm
>

Replying to myself here.

I just noticed the systemd file so I added the relevant bits to the spec
file as well as bbswitch which will need to be packaged separately (see
below).

Since bbswitch is an external kernel module I'm assuming it will have to be
packaged at RPM Fusion (or the like).

I've updated the above link so please re-download if you already have.

Richard
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Re: OT - PogoPlug

2012-12-06 Thread Robert Moskowitz


On 12/06/2012 04:30 PM, fred smith wrote:

On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 01:04:56PM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

I am looking at getting a PogoPlug from Ebay.  The P21 model that has 4
USB ports.

The description only lists to EXT3.  I have 2 EXT4 drives that I would
like to plug into it without reformating (lots of stuff on them).  Does
anyone know if this will work?

I think I've read that you can mount an EXT4 as EXT3, but you lose
the journaling when you do that. And I don't know what possibly bad
things may happen to the filesystem, if the system modified it while
thinking it was EXT3, that may rear up and bite you later if you
mount it subsequently as EXT4.


Well I am setting up a ClearOS file server (box just arrived) and I will 
get an internal 1TB drive for it.  I can kind of shuffle things around 
and empty my 1 & 2 TB USB drives, reformat them as EXT3 and put them on 
the PogoPlug.  The intension is to use the PogoPlug as the backup for 
the COS server (and my Fedora notebook).  The 1TB on line all the time, 
and the 2TB kept in a firebox for weekly backups.



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Re: OT - PogoPlug

2012-12-06 Thread fred smith
On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 01:04:56PM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> I am looking at getting a PogoPlug from Ebay.  The P21 model that has 4 
> USB ports.
> 
> The description only lists to EXT3.  I have 2 EXT4 drives that I would 
> like to plug into it without reformating (lots of stuff on them).  Does 
> anyone know if this will work?

I think I've read that you can mount an EXT4 as EXT3, but you lose
the journaling when you do that. And I don't know what possibly bad
things may happen to the filesystem, if the system modified it while
thinking it was EXT3, that may rear up and bite you later if you
mount it subsequently as EXT4.

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Re: Bumblebee on Fedora?

2012-12-06 Thread Richard Shaw
On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 1:48 PM, John Aldrich  wrote:

> Quoting Dave Cross :
>
>>
  I think maybe you just volunteered. :D

>>>
>>
>> I was afraid of that :-/
>
>
 Well here's a head start for you. I don't have time to pick up any more
packages but it was pretty simple to package. I ran it through rpmlint and
there's not too many issues.

I pulled the build requirements from the wiki:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bumblebee

Also, it says it needs VirtualGL which it says is only in F18 so I added it
as a plain Requires:...

Have fun!

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/34775202/bumblebee-3.0.1-1.fc17.src.rpm

Richard
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Re: Bumblebee on Fedora?

2012-12-06 Thread John Aldrich

Quoting Dave Cross :


 I think maybe you just volunteered. :D



I was afraid of that :-/

I'm fine when it comes to bundling up Perl modules (http://rpm.mag-sol.com/),
but I've never tried a C library before.

Perhaps I'll find time to take a look at it...

Well, once you have a template (forget the correct term) it's not hard  
to build an RPM.

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Re: Bumblebee on Fedora?

2012-12-06 Thread Dave Cross
On 6 December 2012 17:48, John Aldrich  wrote:

> Quoting Dave Cross :
>
>  Bumblebee is a project to enable NVidia's Optimus technology on Linux.
>>
>> I have found a number of web pages explaining how to use Bumblebee on
>> Fedora, but they all seem to involve downloading and compiling the
>> project's source code. Whilst I'm happy to do that if it's necessary, I
>> wondered if anyone knew of plans to make pre-built RPMs available in the
>> Fedora repositories.
>>
>>  I think maybe you just volunteered. :D


I was afraid of that :-/

I'm fine when it comes to bundling up Perl modules (http://rpm.mag-sol.com/),
but I've never tried a C library before.

Perhaps I'll find time to take a look at it...

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RE: fedora without texlive

2012-12-06 Thread Antonio Olivares


> -Original Message-
> From: francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr
> Sent: Thu, 06 Dec 2012 19:04:52 +0100
> To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
> Subject: fedora without texlive
> 
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> Bonjour,
> 
> I just completed an F-17 install. I choosed the "customize now" option
> and ask to not install texlive, but texlive is installed.
> 
> Is it possible to have an install without texlive?
> 
> I use texlive, but fedora package for texlive is obsolete (texlive-2007,
> almost 6 year late!) and I prefer to install texlive from CTAN in my
> /opt partition.
> 
> How to remove texlive?
> 
> Thanks
> - --
> François Patte

# yum remove 'texlive-*'

should do the job!

If you still want to give Fedora's Team a chance
You can configure jnovy's repo for TeXLive 2012:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/TeXLive

or just remove it and use the TeXLiveDVD.  In Fedora 18, the TeXlive installed 
is the dev. branch, I installed it too without noticing :( 
On many of my machines I use KerTeX which is smaller and does a good job for 
me.  

Regards,


Antonio


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Re: fedora without texlive

2012-12-06 Thread Phil Dobbin
On 12/06/2012 06:04 PM, François Patte wrote:

> Bonjour,
> 
> I just completed an F-17 install. I choosed the "customize now" option
> and ask to not install texlive, but texlive is installed.
> 
> Is it possible to have an install without texlive?
> 
> I use texlive, but fedora package for texlive is obsolete (texlive-2007,
> almost 6 year late!) and I prefer to install texlive from CTAN in my
> /opt partition.
> 
> How to remove texlive?

I'm not sure why you ended up with texlive as it's not part of the
standard Fedora 17 install (well, not on my machine, that's for sure).

As for the best way to uninstall it, I'd guess yum but I'm sure somebody
else may know a better way.

Cheers,

  Phil...

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OT - PogoPlug

2012-12-06 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I am looking at getting a PogoPlug from Ebay.  The P21 model that has 4 
USB ports.


The description only lists to EXT3.  I have 2 EXT4 drives that I would 
like to plug into it without reformating (lots of stuff on them).  Does 
anyone know if this will work?


What is the status of the Fedora development for the Pogoplug?


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fedora without texlive

2012-12-06 Thread François Patte
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Bonjour,

I just completed an F-17 install. I choosed the "customize now" option
and ask to not install texlive, but texlive is installed.

Is it possible to have an install without texlive?

I use texlive, but fedora package for texlive is obsolete (texlive-2007,
almost 6 year late!) and I prefer to install texlive from CTAN in my
/opt partition.

How to remove texlive?

Thanks
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Re: Bumblebee on Fedora?

2012-12-06 Thread John Aldrich

Quoting Dave Cross :


Bumblebee is a project to enable NVidia's Optimus technology on Linux.

I have found a number of web pages explaining how to use Bumblebee on
Fedora, but they all seem to involve downloading and compiling the
project's source code. Whilst I'm happy to do that if it's necessary, I
wondered if anyone knew of plans to make pre-built RPMs available in the
Fedora repositories.


I think maybe you just volunteered. :D
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RE: DVD Styler

2012-12-06 Thread Mark Haney
While that is true,  I simply didn't see the need to add it since I incuded a 
fix in the OP. Howecer, he's the link just in case. 

 https://sourceforge.net/p/dvdstyler/bugs/496/
 

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To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Subject: Re: DVD Styler

Allegedly, on or about 06 December 2012, Mark Haney sent:
> I just filed a bug report on dvdstylers bugzilla

It is helpful to mention the bugzilla number when you post a message
like this.

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Re: Feature request : transcriber

2012-12-06 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 06 December 2012, Beartooth sent:
> 
>   People I know are forever sending URLs that are just talking 
> heads. I don't do talking heads. 

I tend to dislike them, too.  It's seriously annoying having to sit
through some twenty minute talk, especially when they blather on, rather
than being able to read a transcript at whatever pace you prefer.  It's
compounded by not being really able to fast-forward and rewind clips on
the internet.  Skipping back and forth is not the same thing.

>   But iiuc there is now software that transcribes speech, though I 
> don't know how well. Would it then not be possible to write software that 
> would go to a site and transcribe what is said there? Even if it could do 
> only one speaker, it could save a lot of us a lot of time.

I have to wonder about how well a transcription you're going to get.
There's some quite awful speech recognition used on YouTube (it can
auto-caption some videos), but the text is often amusingly, or
annoyingly, wrong, depending on your point of view.  You can also see
the same sort of thing on some television news broadcasts.  Some of them
use voice recognition, and others of them are probably still be using
stenographers typing live into the caption equipment.

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Re: DVD Styler

2012-12-06 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 06 December 2012, Mark Haney sent:
> I just filed a bug report on dvdstylers bugzilla

It is helpful to mention the bugzilla number when you post a message
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Bumblebee on Fedora?

2012-12-06 Thread Dave Cross
Bumblebee is a project to enable NVidia's Optimus technology on Linux.

I have found a number of web pages explaining how to use Bumblebee on
Fedora, but they all seem to involve downloading and compiling the
project's source code. Whilst I'm happy to do that if it's necessary, I
wondered if anyone knew of plans to make pre-built RPMs available in the
Fedora repositories.

Cheers,

Dave...

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Re: Feature request : transcriber

2012-12-06 Thread Temlakos

On 12/06/2012 10:03 AM, Beartooth wrote:


People I know are forever sending URLs that are just talking
heads. I don't do talking heads.

But iiuc there is now software that transcribes speech, though I
don't know how well. Would it then not be possible to write software that
would go to a site and transcribe what is said there? Even if it could do
only one speaker, it could save a lot of us a lot of time.



Dragon Dictate, and Dragon Naturally Speaking, have been on the 
commercial (that is, shrink-wrap) market for a very long time. They 
transcribe /your/ speech. You sit at the console, hook up a microphone, 
and first read a Mark Twain short story. Then you can speak into the 
microphone, and the Dragon program will produce machine-readable text, 
in your word processor, from what you say.


I have not used Dragon for thirteen years. Back then, all I really had 
was Windows. (Linux was then in its infancy and was little more than a 
command-line implementation of Unix. The rich X system was only just 
then getting started.) Also back then, I had to speak v-e-r-y 
s-l-o-w-l-y. Like, one syllable per second, or even one syllable every 
two seconds. Processors in those days were simply not fast enough for 
Dragon to keep up with, say, someone delivering a speech to a crowded 
lecture venue.


Today, they might be. That is, the Intel Core i7, or whatever equivalent 
AMD might have produced, might be. All I know is that Dragon have 
started to advertise on cable television, something they never did 
before. And they are pitching this program to housewives who think they 
might want to break into novel-writing. Ask any novelist; novel-writing 
is a /very/ text-intensive thing to do.


Three problems:

1. I'm still skeptical that even a modern processor can keep up with 
someone's natural pace of speech. Today the ads say that Dragon produces 
smooth word-processing documents and e-mails "three times faster than 
most people type." But: can they create that text as fast as most people 
/talk/? And do they mean three times faster than a professional office 
secretary can type? (The typical standard was about sixty words a minute 
on an old-fashioned impact typewriter. That's about as fast as I had to 
slow my speech to, thirteen years ago, when Dragon was still new.)


2. I have never seen an open-source implementation, version, or 
equivalent of Dragon. Nor has Dragon, to my knowledge, ported their 
software to Linux. They've ported it to Mac, and I've seen it offered as 
"shareware" (with a $99 suggested "license" fee).


3. I have never seen any claim that Dragon, or anything like it, can 
produce a transcript of a video. Even to implement that would be a 
challenge. Or it might not be: no one has explained to me what steps 
Dragon takes to produce text. If it writes your spoken words to a 
temporary file and then transcribes the file as soon as you speak it 
(within reason), then it just might be able to transcribe an existing 
recorded speech, on audio or video. All it would have to do is recognize 
the codec. (Or else you convert your audio file to a codec that the 
transcription program can recognize.)


Now about your talking-head issue: if you've reached an advertisement, 
you might be able to get an instant transcript this way:


1. Navigate to the page.

2. As soon as the talking head starts talking, hit a button to close out 
the page.


3. A dialog will appear: "Are you sure you want to leave?" Hit "Cancel."

The page will still be there, only now you will see a printed 
transcript. You should then be able to select, copy and paste. I know 
you can still read it all. I've done it a few times.


This is a good question, actually. I'd love to see a "build" of 
something like Dragon. But that development might be way beyond the 
scope of the Fedora project.


Temlakos

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Feature request : transcriber

2012-12-06 Thread Beartooth


People I know are forever sending URLs that are just talking 
heads. I don't do talking heads. 

But iiuc there is now software that transcribes speech, though I 
don't know how well. Would it then not be possible to write software that 
would go to a site and transcribe what is said there? Even if it could do 
only one speaker, it could save a lot of us a lot of time.

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RE: DVD Styler

2012-12-06 Thread Mark Haney
I just filed a bug report on dvdstylers bugzilla. This is my problem, it may be 
the problem you're having. When bulging a dvd it crashes hard. The error when 
run from the command line has sample_fmt not found or something like that. 
Anyway, the way to fix it is to right click on the main menu and add an audio 
file to it. I simply created an empty momp3 file and it worked perfectly. 

HTH. 

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Subject: DVD Styler

I am running DVD Styler on two different fedora 17 machines.  Both fail the 
same way.  The setup is normal until execution is started and then DVD Styler 
abruptly closes. Does anyone else's f17 having similar problems?
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Black screen on boot

2012-12-06 Thread Pavel Shkadzko
Hi, I'm experiencing strange behaviour with 3.6 kernel (laptop.hp pavilion dm1) 
. Black screen on boot after grub without any loading animation,  and system 
becomes irresponsive. This happens only with network cable attached. Adding 
"nodetect" does not help. Any ideas?
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