Re: please discontinue to moderate Haralds posts
Oh my god, it feels like I'm reading a baby whining because another one pinched his ass. You call this an insult ? This got to be the most childish mailing-list I've ever been on. Grow up some balls, people. This really is ridiculous. You're offended because the first answer wasn't rolled in salutations and polite hello goodbye ? If I was Harald I would the offending one. You get a straight, clear answer and you call it insult. And then to justify yourself you quote the following reaction. Yes, this is kindergarden. I'm leaving this mailing-list. Too bad for the precious knowledge I'll miss. Gonna use the forums instead. Eric Viseur Etudiant Ingénieur Civil Electricien +32 497 92 36 80 LinkedIn Profilehttp://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=193442069trk=tab_pro 2013/7/23 Darryl L. Pierce mcpie...@gmail.com On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 04:35:44PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: Yup, just received my first insult... Do I get a badge now or is there a club I can join? :) this below is what you are calling an insult? Yes, the part I hilighted before is rather insulting to people. seriously? ***sorry for point to a solution which worked many hundret times for me, i will try not try to help you again*** -- Darryl L. Pierce mcpie...@gmail.com http://mcpierce.multiply.com/ What do you care what people think, Mr. Feynman? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: please discontinue to moderate Haralds posts
Then I'm really glad I'll be a burden to you for such a motive today. If coping with people humors is endorsing victimization, then damn it, I must be a really bad person. But guess what, I'll live with it. And you'll be the doubly pissed off one. Now I guess I'll stop answering to this, first because it's getting hard to answer to these since English isn't my first language, secondly because I guess I'm becoming part of the wee-wee I'm bored with. Which is ridiculous. Have a nice life, Eric Viseur 2013/7/19 Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au Allegedly, on or about 18 July 2013, Timothy Murphy sent: Surely it is the easiest thing in the world not to read his postings, if they offend you. You need to see the bigger picture. As we all stand idly by and watch someone harass someone else, you endorse the victimisation. When you declare that the victim should just ignore them, you make the victim more of a victim. If we tell the victims not to complain about it, we victimise them even more. As you all stand by and endorse the perpetrator while they victimise me, you piss me off as well. -- All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: please discontinue to moderate Haralds posts
As a recent newcomer, I only have one thing to say : I can live with some people being sometimes harsh. We're all human beings, we all lose our temper sometimes. Some do more often than others. But damn it, all this wee-wee about him being rude to others is becoming ridiculous and might drive me away from this mailing list. All you people whining, not Harald being rude sometimes. Nuff said. Eric Viseur 2013/7/18 Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net Am 18.07.2013 20:16, schrieb Thomas Dineen: I highly disagree here and the gives you more voice? I regard Harald as an annoyance and liability! your opinion, there exists a dirty quote about opinions He has been extremely in polite on this reflector in the past, many, many times, personally calling me and others names on multiple occasions the last i replied *to you* in 2013 was in 2013/01 as you insisted to recommend Fedora 14 *for others* which is unacceptable these days for security reasons instead recommend CentOS or whatever LTS fine that i have a good archive back to 2003 - after the thread below i would be careful how to argue - i have replied to you exaectly 5 times, 3 of them in the thread below and don't get me wrong but in that case well-deserved and after your quotes below who do you think you are that you judge others? Original-Nachricht Betreff: Re: F-18/64 Install Methods - Datum: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 11:18:34 -0800 Von: Thomas Dineen tdin...@ix.netcom.com An: h.rei...@thelounge.net Oh little boy, why don't you go fix your bugs? If you are capable of it Thomas Dineen On 1/15/2013 11:06 AM, Thomas Dineen wrote: I am a citizen of a free society I can suggest anything that I like! Take a break, learn to speak English, learn to express yourself in civil manor, stop calling people names AND THEN FUCK OFF!! Thomas Dineen https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2013-January/428812.html https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2013-January/428818.html https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2013-January/428840.html https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2013-January/428844.html https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2013-January/428846.html -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: PulseAudio in restricted X environment
Just solved it, a much easier way. Thanks you for your advices, I directed me to taking a closer look to the logs. It lead me to discover that PA indeed started, but actually couldn't reach the sound card. What I did was simply add my lowpriv user to the group audio, then start PulseAudio, unmute the sink and set it's volume to 100% before starting spicec. And voilà, it works like a charm ! No need for a systemwide instance :) Eric Viseur Etudiant Ingénieur Civil Electricien +32 497 92 36 80 LinkedIn Profilehttp://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=193442069trk=tab_pro 2013/7/10 Anthony Messina amess...@messinet.com On Tuesday, July 09, 2013 04:01:47 PM Eric Viseur wrote: I'm currently working on a virtualization project using F18. One of the use cases is booting on the multi-user systemd target, then starting the Spice client in a very restricted X environment by simply issuing $ xinit /usr/bin/spicec (some parameters) Everything works fine, except the sound : as I don't start a complete GDM in this boot scenario, PulseAudio isn't loaded. I thus tried to start PulseAudio manually by issuing : $ start-pulseaudio-x11 before starting xinit with the same user, but it doesn't work either. After testing a $ pacat /dev/urandom from the host on Fedora Virtualization team's advice, it turns out PA doesn't work at all. So, here is my question : how to start PulseAudio correctly in such a setup (multi-user.target then xinit) ? Please note that if I connect to the VM from a complete GDM in the graphical systemd target, everything works fine. Thank you for your attention ! I'm wondering if you might be able to use systemd user sessions along with the xorg-launch-helper [1] and user-session-units [2] since you may need some dbus magic for PulseAudio to work. I am using this along with PulseAudio for my F19 MythTV frontends with great success (I use it to be able to auto-switch from speaker output to bluetooth headset output when everyone else is trying to sleep). Aside from the xorg-launch-helper package, which I package here [3], I have manually created some of the files from the user-session-units, which I don't yet package. Those are below: # # dbus.service [Unit] Description=D-Bus System Message Bus Requires=dbus.socket [Service] ExecStart=/bin/dbus-daemon --session --address=systemd: --nofork --systemd- activation ExecReload=/usr/bin/dbus-send --print-reply --session --type=method_call -- dest=org.freedesktop.DBus / org.freedesktop.DBus.ReloadConfig # # dbus.socket [Unit] Description=D-Bus System Message Bus Socket [Socket] ListenStream=%t/dbus/user_bus_socket # # example spicec.service [Unit] Description=spicec service After=network.target [Service] ExecStart=/usr/bin/spicec (some parameters) Restart=on-failure [Install] WantedBy=mythfrontend.target # # example spicec.target [Unit] Description=spicec target Wants=xorg.target Requires=dbus.socket #After=network.target AllowIsolate=true And I have PulseAudio set to autospawn: # /etc/pulse/client.conf ... autospawn = yes ... There's a little more service/unit file help I can give if you think this might be a way for you to resolve the issue. -A [1] https://github.com/sofar/xorg-launch-helper [2] https://github.com/sofar/user-session-units [3] http://messinet.com/rpms -- Anthony - http://messinet.com - http://messinet.com/~amessina/gallery 8F89 5E72 8DF0 BCF0 10BE 9967 92DC 35DC B001 4A4E -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
PulseAudio in restricted X environment
Hi, I'm currently working on a virtualization project using F18. One of the use cases is booting on the multi-user systemd target, then starting the Spice client in a very restricted X environment by simply issuing *$ xinit /usr/bin/spicec (some parameters)* Everything works fine, except the sound : as I don't start a complete GDM in this boot scenario, PulseAudio isn't loaded. I thus tried to start PulseAudio manually by issuing : *$ start-pulseaudio-x11* before starting xinit with the same user, but it doesn't work either. After testing a *$ pacat /dev/urandom* from the host on Fedora Virtualization team's advice, it turns out PA doesn't work at all. *So, here is my question : how to start PulseAudio correctly in such a setup (multi-user.target then xinit) ?* Please note that if I connect to the VM from a complete GDM in the graphical systemd target, everything works fine. Thank you for your attention ! Regards, Eric Viseur -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: PulseAudio in restricted X environment
Sadly the daemon refuses to start. When started from console without the log-level=0, the daemon seems to start, but I still can't get any sound out of the box. Eric Viseur 2013/7/9 Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net Am 09.07.2013 16:01, schrieb Eric Viseur: I'm currently working on a virtualization project using F18. One of the use cases is booting on the multi-user systemd target, then starting the Spice client in a very restricted X environment by simply issuing /$ xinit /usr/bin/spicec (some parameters)/ Everything works fine, except the sound : as I don't start a complete GDM in this boot scenario, PulseAudio isn't loaded. I thus tried to start PulseAudio manually by issuing : /$ start-pulseaudio-x11/ before starting xinit with the same user, but it doesn't work either. After testing a /$ pacat /dev/urandom/ from the host on Fedora Virtualization team's advice, it turns out PA doesn't work at all. *So, here is my question : how to start PulseAudio correctly in such a setup (multi-user.target then xinit) ?* Please note that if I connect to the VM from a complete GDM in the graphical systemd target, everything works fine. Thank you for your attention! system wide instance is your friend [harry@rh:~]$ cat /etc/systemd/system/pulsed.service [Unit] Description=Pulseaudio Daemon After=rtkit-daemon.service udev.service dbus.service [Service] Type=simple ExecStart=-/usr/bin/pulseaudio --daemonize=false --system=true --log-level=0 --log-target=stderr --disallow-module-loading=true --disallow-exit=true --exit-idle-time=0 --disable-shm=true --no-cpu-limit=false --use-pid-file=false --resample-method=src-sinc-best-quality Restart=always RestartSec=30 TimeoutSec=15 Nice=-10 CapabilityBoundingSet=~CAP_SYS_PTRACE InaccessibleDirectories=/boot InaccessibleDirectories=/root [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
