Re: Gnome shell and NVidia binary drivers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/02/2011 09:08 AM, Alexander Volovics wrote: > On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 08:56:37AM -0400, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Alexander Volovics wrote: >>> > So can their be some kind of conflict between the nvidia drivers and > the gnome 3 shell. Is it possible that selinux is involved in this > somehow. > > I really would like to solve this because I have wasted enough time > trying to get this working. Any help would be appreciated. > > Alexander >>> I installed the akmod-nvidia, and now also ran dracut --force to recreate initramfs (and, obviously, rebooted). It doesn't help. I installed KDE and it works, so, I guess drivers are working. >>> >>> I don't doubt that the drivers work. >>> I had previously installed ubuntu 11.04 on this same pc and >>> installed the same nvidia drivers. They worked ok there. >>> (But I didn't like unity so I removed ubuntu and installed fed 15) >>> >>> Knowing that the drivers should work is hardly comforting when they >>> refuse to work with fed15/gnome3. >>> >>> I hope somebody comes with a suggestion or I will be forced to >>> install KDE (which I don't like but at least you do not need to >>> install the nvidia drivers because nouveau works quite well) or >>> Xfce (which I don't like either and which has some bugs/shortcomings) > >> Put the machine in permissive mode and see if SELinux is blocking it. >> >> setenforce 0 > > I had already tried this. Does not make any difference. > I also tried changing the label on 'nvidiactl' as mentioned in > Bugzilla (694918). No effect either. > > Alexander > Well most likely SELinux is off the hook then. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk3nw5gACgkQrlYvE4MpobOP6gCg3hfKLO5OFHr5zm3Xfoc0/MzI DBkAoK1d/WbXHMDEPXejK34s/QCJaFLJ =hkwK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Gnome shell and NVidia binary drivers
On 06/02/2011 04:50 AM, Alexander Volovics wrote: > Knowing that the drivers should work is hardly comforting when they > refuse to work with fed15/gnome3. It's equally likely that F15/Gnome3 refuses to work properly with the nVidia drivers. Blaming either one at this point is premature. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Gnome shell and NVidia binary drivers
On 06/02/2011 09:22 AM, Alexander Volovics wrote: May be somewhat related (you may need to fix line wraps in URL from silly text mail) http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_desktop_managers1&num=1 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Gnome shell and NVidia binary drivers
On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 07:57:30AM -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: > On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 5:16 AM, Alexander Volovics > wrote: > > 1) The rpmfusion (kmod or akmod) install does not get rid of the nouveau > > kernel modules as expected. You MUST run dracut to create a new > > initramfs file before rebooting. Only then are the nouveau modules > > unloaded. > > Well, yes and no. It's true that installing the kmod or akmod does not > run dracut for you but it should add "rdblacklist=nouveau" to the > kernel line in your grub.conf which should effectively stop nouveau > from loading unless that kernel option is broken in F15. > > If rdblacklist is there (and still functional) then that would explain > why running dracut didn't help. The first time after rebooting I did of course not run dracut! The akmod/kmod install had indeed modified grub.conf to include: "rdblacklist=nouveau nouveau.modeset=0" (I checked before rebooting). But this did NOT stop nouveau from loading. lsmod showed nouveau and nvidia sitting brotherly together in the kernel. Only then did I run dracut which indeed removed the nouveau modules. Could this indicate that this kernel option is broken (and should I bugzilla it) Alexander -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Gnome shell and NVidia binary drivers
On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 08:56:37AM -0400, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > >> On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Alexander Volovics > >> wrote: > > > >>> So can their be some kind of conflict between the nvidia drivers and > >>> the gnome 3 shell. Is it possible that selinux is involved in this > >>> somehow. > >>> > >>> I really would like to solve this because I have wasted enough time > >>> trying to get this working. Any help would be appreciated. > >>> > >>> Alexander > > > >> I installed the akmod-nvidia, and now also ran dracut --force to > >> recreate initramfs (and, obviously, rebooted). It doesn't help. I > >> installed KDE and it works, so, I guess drivers are working. > > > > I don't doubt that the drivers work. > > I had previously installed ubuntu 11.04 on this same pc and > > installed the same nvidia drivers. They worked ok there. > > (But I didn't like unity so I removed ubuntu and installed fed 15) > > > > Knowing that the drivers should work is hardly comforting when they > > refuse to work with fed15/gnome3. > > > > I hope somebody comes with a suggestion or I will be forced to > > install KDE (which I don't like but at least you do not need to > > install the nvidia drivers because nouveau works quite well) or > > Xfce (which I don't like either and which has some bugs/shortcomings) > Put the machine in permissive mode and see if SELinux is blocking it. > > setenforce 0 I had already tried this. Does not make any difference. I also tried changing the label on 'nvidiactl' as mentioned in Bugzilla (694918). No effect either. Alexander -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Gnome shell and NVidia binary drivers
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: > On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 5:16 AM, Alexander Volovics > wrote: >> 1) The rpmfusion (kmod or akmod) install does not get rid of the nouveau >> kernel modules as expected. You MUST run dracut to create a new >> initramfs file before rebooting. Only then are the nouveau modules >> unloaded. > > Well, yes and no. It's true that installing the kmod or akmod does not > run dracut for you but it should add "rdblacklist=nouveau" to the > kernel line in your grub.conf which should effectively stop nouveau > from loading unless that kernel option is broken in F15. > > If rdblacklist is there (and still functional) then that would explain > why running dracut didn't help. > If I understand correctly, nouveau driver prevents nvidia driver from loading. This is definitely not my case. In my case nvidia driver is loaded, and X works fine (in KDE). The problem happens only in Gnome 3. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Gnome shell and NVidia binary drivers
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 5:16 AM, Alexander Volovics wrote: > 1) The rpmfusion (kmod or akmod) install does not get rid of the nouveau > kernel modules as expected. You MUST run dracut to create a new > initramfs file before rebooting. Only then are the nouveau modules > unloaded. Well, yes and no. It's true that installing the kmod or akmod does not run dracut for you but it should add "rdblacklist=nouveau" to the kernel line in your grub.conf which should effectively stop nouveau from loading unless that kernel option is broken in F15. If rdblacklist is there (and still functional) then that would explain why running dracut didn't help. Richard -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Gnome shell and NVidia binary drivers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/02/2011 07:50 AM, Alexander Volovics wrote: > On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 02:17:11PM +0300, Pasha R wrote: > >> On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Alexander Volovics >> wrote: > >>> So can their be some kind of conflict between the nvidia drivers and >>> the gnome 3 shell. Is it possible that selinux is involved in this >>> somehow. >>> >>> I really would like to solve this because I have wasted enough time >>> trying to get this working. Any help would be appreciated. >>> >>> Alexander > >> I installed the akmod-nvidia, and now also ran dracut --force to >> recreate initramfs (and, obviously, rebooted). It doesn't help. I >> installed KDE and it works, so, I guess drivers are working. > > I don't doubt that the drivers work. > I had previously installed ubuntu 11.04 on this same pc and > installed the same nvidia drivers. They worked ok there. > (But I didn't like unity so I removed ubuntu and installed fed 15) > > Knowing that the drivers should work is hardly comforting when they > refuse to work with fed15/gnome3. > > I hope somebody comes with a suggestion or I will be forced to > install KDE (which I don't like but at least you do not need to > install the nvidia drivers because nouveau works quite well) or > Xfce (which I don't like either and which has some bugs/shortcomings) > > Alexander > Put the machine in permissive mode and see if SELinux is blocking it. setenforce 0 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk3niIUACgkQrlYvE4MpobNRdwCeIpn7LRtRoXe2LNKHkfyrj75c 0lcAoOZC5JoAHNDv4QQ4gkHO/1i+/0AH =/yA6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Gnome shell and NVidia binary drivers
On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 02:17:11PM +0300, Pasha R wrote: > On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Alexander Volovics > wrote: > > So can their be some kind of conflict between the nvidia drivers and > > the gnome 3 shell. Is it possible that selinux is involved in this > > somehow. > > > > I really would like to solve this because I have wasted enough time > > trying to get this working. Any help would be appreciated. > > > > Alexander > I installed the akmod-nvidia, and now also ran dracut --force to > recreate initramfs (and, obviously, rebooted). It doesn't help. I > installed KDE and it works, so, I guess drivers are working. I don't doubt that the drivers work. I had previously installed ubuntu 11.04 on this same pc and installed the same nvidia drivers. They worked ok there. (But I didn't like unity so I removed ubuntu and installed fed 15) Knowing that the drivers should work is hardly comforting when they refuse to work with fed15/gnome3. I hope somebody comes with a suggestion or I will be forced to install KDE (which I don't like but at least you do not need to install the nvidia drivers because nouveau works quite well) or Xfce (which I don't like either and which has some bugs/shortcomings) Alexander -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Gnome shell and NVidia binary drivers
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Alexander Volovics wrote: > On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 10:53:09AM +0300, Pasha R wrote: > >> After log in, gnome shell draws its top bar, but after that >> it simply stops drawing anything on screen. If I launch terminal, I >> can see that mouse pointer changes when it goes in and out of terminal >> window, but window itself can not be seen. >> After sometime it displays "sad terminal" icon with a message "Oh no! >> Something has gone wrong. A problem has occurred and the system can't >> recover. Please log out and try again". >> Are NVidia drivers supported by Gnome 3? > > 1) The rpmfusion (kmod or akmod) install does not get rid of the nouveau > kernel modules as expected. You MUST run dracut to create a new > initramfs file before rebooting. Only then are the nouveau modules > unloaded. > > 2) There still seems to be something wrong because something akin > to what Pasha wrote happens in my case also. > I get to the login screen. I can login and the full gnome 3 desktop > appears (blue striped wallpaper + top bar with all the necessary > entries). But thats it. No activity at all. I can press the windows > key nothing happens, position the mouse cursor on the user name and > click but no menu drops down, etc. The screen is frozen. > I can only logout with ctrl-alt-backspace. > > So can their be some kind of conflict between the nvidia drivers and > the gnome 3 shell. Is it possible that selinux is involved in this > somehow. > > I really would like to solve this because I have wasted enough time > trying to get this working. Any help would be appreciated. > > Alexander I installed the akmod-nvidia, and now also ran dracut --force to recreate initramfs (and, obviously, rebooted). It doesn't help. I installed KDE and it works, so, I guess drivers are working. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Gnome shell and NVidia binary drivers
On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 10:53:09AM +0300, Pasha R wrote: > After log in, gnome shell draws its top bar, but after that > it simply stops drawing anything on screen. If I launch terminal, I > can see that mouse pointer changes when it goes in and out of terminal > window, but window itself can not be seen. > After sometime it displays "sad terminal" icon with a message "Oh no! > Something has gone wrong. A problem has occurred and the system can't > recover. Please log out and try again". > Are NVidia drivers supported by Gnome 3? 1) The rpmfusion (kmod or akmod) install does not get rid of the nouveau kernel modules as expected. You MUST run dracut to create a new initramfs file before rebooting. Only then are the nouveau modules unloaded. 2) There still seems to be something wrong because something akin to what Pasha wrote happens in my case also. I get to the login screen. I can login and the full gnome 3 desktop appears (blue striped wallpaper + top bar with all the necessary entries). But thats it. No activity at all. I can press the windows key nothing happens, position the mouse cursor on the user name and click but no menu drops down, etc. The screen is frozen. I can only logout with ctrl-alt-backspace. So can their be some kind of conflict between the nvidia drivers and the gnome 3 shell. Is it possible that selinux is involved in this somehow. I really would like to solve this because I have wasted enough time trying to get this working. Any help would be appreciated. Alexander -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Gnome shell and NVidia binary drivers
On Thu, 2011-06-02 at 11:38 +0300, Pasha R wrote: > Thanks for the tip. I ran dracut --force and rebooted, but it didn't help. > > BTW, I also run F15 with full Gnome3 in VBox on my F14 host machine > with NVidia drivers (GeForce GT 240), and it works fairly well. > I know that NVidia drivers are officially not supported by Fedora, but > it is probably supported configuration for Gnome, so I'll try it > there. When you installed, did you install the kmod or the akmod-nvidia? If just the kmod, maybe using the akmod will do everything itself to get it to run? -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "The best town on Earth!" -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Gnome shell and NVidia binary drivers
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 06/02/2011 03:53 PM, Pasha R wrote: >> I'm running F15 on Dell Latitude D620 Laptop with NVidia NVS 110M >> video card. So far I used it with nouveau drivers and while it ran >> fairly well, I experienced sometimes glitches - screen becoming white >> or otherwise unreadable. So, I tried to install NVidia drivers from >> RPMFusion. After log in, gnome shell draws its top bar, but after that >> it simply stops drawing anything on screen. If I launch terminal, I >> can see that mouse pointer changes when it goes in and out of terminal >> window, but window itself can not be seen. >> After sometime it displays "sad terminal" icon with a message "Oh no! >> Something has gone wrong. A problem has occurred and the system can't >> recover. Please log out and try again". >> Are NVidia drivers supported by Gnome 3? >> Should I file bug for this? And if yes - to RedHat bugzilla or to Gnome? > > I've just installed the nvidia drivers from RPMfusion as well. Running > F15-x86_64. I've got a GeForce GT 230. > > After the install, I still had to use dracut to recreate the initramfs > with the nouveau driver blacklisted. Thought the install was going to > take care of that...but it didn't. > > Anyway, my reason for doing this was that I wanted to run GNOME 3 in a > Vbox guest. In order to do that you need to enable 3D in the display > section. The Vbox guest would crash when bringing up the GNOME Shell. > No problems with the nVidia drivers. > > But, to answer your question. GNOME shell runs just fine on my system. > > I normally run KDE and I will have to say the nVidia drivers do perform > better than nouveau. The shading is better as well as the desktop > effects and transitions. But, nouveau is getting better every release. > > Whatever you do, don't file a bugzilla about nVidia drivers on > Redhat/Fedora. It is specifically *UNSUPPORTED*. > Thanks for the tip. I ran dracut --force and rebooted, but it didn't help. BTW, I also run F15 with full Gnome3 in VBox on my F14 host machine with NVidia drivers (GeForce GT 240), and it works fairly well. I know that NVidia drivers are officially not supported by Fedora, but it is probably supported configuration for Gnome, so I'll try it there. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Gnome shell and NVidia binary drivers
On 06/02/2011 03:53 PM, Pasha R wrote: > I'm running F15 on Dell Latitude D620 Laptop with NVidia NVS 110M > video card. So far I used it with nouveau drivers and while it ran > fairly well, I experienced sometimes glitches - screen becoming white > or otherwise unreadable. So, I tried to install NVidia drivers from > RPMFusion. After log in, gnome shell draws its top bar, but after that > it simply stops drawing anything on screen. If I launch terminal, I > can see that mouse pointer changes when it goes in and out of terminal > window, but window itself can not be seen. > After sometime it displays "sad terminal" icon with a message "Oh no! > Something has gone wrong. A problem has occurred and the system can't > recover. Please log out and try again". > Are NVidia drivers supported by Gnome 3? > Should I file bug for this? And if yes - to RedHat bugzilla or to Gnome? I've just installed the nvidia drivers from RPMfusion as well. Running F15-x86_64. I've got a GeForce GT 230. After the install, I still had to use dracut to recreate the initramfs with the nouveau driver blacklisted. Thought the install was going to take care of that...but it didn't. Anyway, my reason for doing this was that I wanted to run GNOME 3 in a Vbox guest. In order to do that you need to enable 3D in the display section. The Vbox guest would crash when bringing up the GNOME Shell. No problems with the nVidia drivers. But, to answer your question. GNOME shell runs just fine on my system. I normally run KDE and I will have to say the nVidia drivers do perform better than nouveau. The shading is better as well as the desktop effects and transitions. But, nouveau is getting better every release. Whatever you do, don't file a bugzilla about nVidia drivers on Redhat/Fedora. It is specifically *UNSUPPORTED*. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Gnome shell and NVidia binary drivers
I'm running F15 on Dell Latitude D620 Laptop with NVidia NVS 110M video card. So far I used it with nouveau drivers and while it ran fairly well, I experienced sometimes glitches - screen becoming white or otherwise unreadable. So, I tried to install NVidia drivers from RPMFusion. After log in, gnome shell draws its top bar, but after that it simply stops drawing anything on screen. If I launch terminal, I can see that mouse pointer changes when it goes in and out of terminal window, but window itself can not be seen. After sometime it displays "sad terminal" icon with a message "Oh no! Something has gone wrong. A problem has occurred and the system can't recover. Please log out and try again". Are NVidia drivers supported by Gnome 3? Should I file bug for this? And if yes - to RedHat bugzilla or to Gnome? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
