Re: Packages to be removed for Fedora 13
On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:31:41 -0500, Lyos wrote: I have taken ownership of gnome-applet-netspeed, as I use it as well. However... I need a co-maintainer who is familiar with C/C++. Anyone willing to step up? Familiarity with C/C++ (the netspeed applet is written in C) doesn't imply familiarity with the APIs of GTK+, GLib, Pango and other libraries. In one gnome-applet-netspeed bz ticket I've added a link to a ticket where gnome-screensaver crashed in exactly the same way in gtkiconcash code. Perhaps due to memory corruption, but maybe it's the same bug afterall - or a shared problem. True. It sounds like you're at least semi-familiar with the issue. Would you be willing to help maintain this package? There have been a few other people who want to keep it alive and who actually use it. It's seems to be unmaintained upstream. There are unanswered tickets in upstream's tracker. It looks as if there are more issues than what has been reported in Fedora's tracker. = Program would benefit from an active developer. All I've done was to take a brief look at the source for a first impression of code quality. And to look for obvious mistakes. There is enough that current packagers could do. Browse other dist's bug trackers/packages to look for existing patches. Create a list of what doesn't work, separate it from feature requests. Determine test-cases for reproducing crashes, possible specific to wireless networking. Browse bz tickets for dependencies to find out where the memory corruption might come from. Try to talk to the gnome-screensaver package maintainer to ask what he thinks about the gtkiconcache crash. Though, there is no immediate need to spend time on this package as long as it's unmaintained upstream and as long as crashes are not reproducible. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Packages to be removed for Fedora 13
On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 14:32 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: To follow the default route is the behaviour for the Default device selection. Selecting a specific device from the list of available devices turns of that feature. Yes, it's obviously meant to work that way, but it wasn't. It'd get stuck at one of the changes, and not recover. Occasionally, I'd find it monitoring the local loopback network. ;-\ -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Packages to be removed for Fedora 13
On 02/09/2010 02:10 AM, Tim wrote: On Mon, 2010-02-08 at 14:26 -0200, Fernando Henrique wrote: I use gnome-applet-netspeed Me too, and I'd like to continue to. It does what I want rather neatly (shows a small gadget in the taskbar that I can keep an eye on, and can easily click on for a bit more information). I have taken ownership of gnome-applet-netspeed, as I use it as well. However... I need a co-maintainer who is familiar with C/C++. Anyone willing to step up? Lyos Gemini Norezel -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Packages to be removed for Fedora 13
On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:58:10 -0500, Lyos wrote: On 02/09/2010 02:10 AM, Tim wrote: On Mon, 2010-02-08 at 14:26 -0200, Fernando Henrique wrote: I use gnome-applet-netspeed Me too, and I'd like to continue to. It does what I want rather neatly (shows a small gadget in the taskbar that I can keep an eye on, and can easily click on for a bit more information). I have taken ownership of gnome-applet-netspeed, as I use it as well. However... I need a co-maintainer who is familiar with C/C++. Anyone willing to step up? Familiarity with C/C++ (the netspeed applet is written in C) doesn't imply familiarity with the APIs of GTK+, GLib, Pango and other libraries. In one gnome-applet-netspeed bz ticket I've added a link to a ticket where gnome-screensaver crashed in exactly the same way in gtkiconcash code. Perhaps due to memory corruption, but maybe it's the same bug afterall - or a shared problem. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Packages to be removed for Fedora 13
On 02/09/2010 05:19 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:58:10 -0500, Lyos wrote: On 02/09/2010 02:10 AM, Tim wrote: On Mon, 2010-02-08 at 14:26 -0200, Fernando Henrique wrote: I use gnome-applet-netspeed Me too, and I'd like to continue to. It does what I want rather neatly (shows a small gadget in the taskbar that I can keep an eye on, and can easily click on for a bit more information). I have taken ownership of gnome-applet-netspeed, as I use it as well. However... I need a co-maintainer who is familiar with C/C++. Anyone willing to step up? Familiarity with C/C++ (the netspeed applet is written in C) doesn't imply familiarity with the APIs of GTK+, GLib, Pango and other libraries. In one gnome-applet-netspeed bz ticket I've added a link to a ticket where gnome-screensaver crashed in exactly the same way in gtkiconcash code. Perhaps due to memory corruption, but maybe it's the same bug afterall - or a shared problem. True. It sounds like you're at least semi-familiar with the issue. Would you be willing to help maintain this package? Lyos Gemini Norezel -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Packages to be removed for Fedora 13
Hi, at least the following packages are currently going to not be available anymore in Fedora 13. If you still use them, please check at the given URL, whether the owner for Fedora devel is orphan. If it is, please reply to this mail and mention the package. DMitry https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/DMitry apt-mirror https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/apt-mirror bauble https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/bauble bottlerocket https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/bottlerocket checkdns https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/checkdns cohoba https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/cohoba cowbell https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/cowbell dbxml https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/dbxml dbxml-perl https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/dbxml-perl dxpc https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/dxpc gdevilspie https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/gdevilspie gfeed https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/gfeed glade2 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/glade2 gmfsk https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/gmfsk gnome-applet-netspeed https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/gnome-applet-netspeed gtk-qt-engine https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/gtk-qt-engine gtk-sharp https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/gtk-sharp gtranslator https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/gtranslator halberd https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/halberd ircd-hybrid https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/ircd-hybrid isight-firmware-tools https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/isight-firmware-tools jna-posix https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/jna-posix k3d https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/k3d keyjnote https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/keyjnote libFoundation https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/libFoundation libipoddevice https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/libipoddevice mediawiki-InputBox https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/mediawiki-InputBox mediawiki-Renameuser https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/mediawiki-Renameuser muine https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/muine muine-scrobbler https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/muine-scrobbler nhpf https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/nhpf nssbackup https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/nssbackup onesixtyone https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/onesixtyone oooqs2 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/oooqs2 pdumpfs https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/pdumpfs perl-DDL-Oracle https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/perl-DDL-Oracle perl-MooseX-Traits-Attribute-CascadeClear https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/perl-MooseX-Traits-Attribute-CascadeClear perl-Net-Libdnet https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/perl-Net-Libdnet perl-libwhisker2 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/perl-libwhisker2 php-pear-Config https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/php-pear-Config pic2aa https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/pic2aa prctl https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/prctl python-pgsql https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/python-pgsql qca https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/qca qca-tls
Re: Packages to be removed for Fedora 13
Hi, On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:56 AM, Till Maas opensou...@till.name wrote: Hi, at least the following packages are currently going to not be available anymore in Fedora 13. If you still use them, please check at the given URL, whether the owner for Fedora devel is orphan. If it is, please reply to this mail and mention the package. I have plans to use python-pgsql: python-pgsql https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/python-pgsql ... but I haven't actually used it yet. I just want a way to access PostgreSQL databases from Python. If there is a better way than python-pgsql, then I won't really need it. If having a maintainer would prevent its removal from Fedora 13, I could do that. However, while I know Python pretty well, I'm quite the newbie with SQL. Don Quixote -- Don Quixote de la Mancha quix...@dulcineatech.com http://www.dulcineatech.com Dulcinea Technologies Corporation: Software of Elegance and Beauty. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Packages to be removed for Fedora 13
Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote: I have plans to use python-pgsql: [...] If having a maintainer would prevent its removal from Fedora 13, I could do that. However, while I know Python pretty well, I'm quite the newbie with SQL. Yes, adopting it as a maintainer would be enough to prevent its removal. I guess you do not need much SQL knowledge to maintain it. I do now know, why it has been orphaned, but you could contact the previous maintainer, who is probably: Konstantin Ryabitsev icon fedoraproject org But maybe it was just orphaned, because the maintainer becamse unresponsive, then there is probably not reason against maintaining it. Regards Till -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Packages to be removed for Fedora 13
On 02/08/2010 05:56 AM, Till Maas wrote: Hi, at least the following packages are currently going to not be available anymore in Fedora 13. If you still use them, please check at the given URL, whether the owner for Fedora devel is orphan. If it is, please reply to this mail and mention the package. DMitry https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/DMitry apt-mirror https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/apt-mirror bauble https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/bauble bottlerocket https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/bottlerocket checkdns https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/checkdns cohoba https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/cohoba cowbell https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/cowbell dbxml https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/dbxml dbxml-perl https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/dbxml-perl dxpc https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/dxpc gdevilspie https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/gdevilspie gfeed https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/gfeed glade2 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/glade2 gmfsk https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/gmfsk gnome-applet-netspeed https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/gnome-applet-netspeed gtk-qt-engine https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/gtk-qt-engine gtk-sharp https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/gtk-sharp gtranslator https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/gtranslator halberd https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/halberd ircd-hybrid https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/ircd-hybrid isight-firmware-tools https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/isight-firmware-tools jna-posix https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/jna-posix k3d https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/k3d keyjnote https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/keyjnote libFoundation https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/libFoundation libipoddevice https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/libipoddevice mediawiki-InputBox https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/mediawiki-InputBox mediawiki-Renameuser https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/mediawiki-Renameuser muine https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/muine muine-scrobbler https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/muine-scrobbler nhpf https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/nhpf nssbackup https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/nssbackup onesixtyone https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/onesixtyone oooqs2 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/oooqs2 pdumpfs https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/pdumpfs perl-DDL-Oracle https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/perl-DDL-Oracle perl-MooseX-Traits-Attribute-CascadeClear https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/perl-MooseX-Traits-Attribute-CascadeClear perl-Net-Libdnet https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/perl-Net-Libdnet perl-libwhisker2 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/perl-libwhisker2 php-pear-Config https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/php-pear-Config pic2aa https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/pic2aa prctl https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/prctl python-pgsql
Re: Packages to be removed for Fedora 13
I use gnome-applet-netspeed On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Paolo Galtieri pgalti...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/08/2010 05:56 AM, Till Maas wrote: Hi, at least the following packages are currently going to not be available anymore in Fedora 13. If you still use them, please check at the given URL, whether the owner for Fedora devel is orphan. If it is, please reply to this mail and mention the package. DMitry https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/DMitry apt-mirror https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/apt-mirror bauble https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/bauble bottlerocket https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/bottlerocket checkdns https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/checkdns cohoba https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/cohoba cowbell https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/cowbell dbxml https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/dbxml dbxml-perl https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/dbxml-perl dxpc https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/dxpc gdevilspie https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/gdevilspie gfeed https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/gfeed glade2 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/glade2 gmfsk https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/gmfsk gnome-applet-netspeed https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/gnome-applet-netspeed gtk-qt-engine https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/gtk-qt-engine gtk-sharp https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/gtk-sharp gtranslator https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/gtranslator halberd https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/halberd ircd-hybrid https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/ircd-hybrid isight-firmware-tools https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/isight-firmware-tools jna-posix https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/jna-posix k3d https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/k3d keyjnote https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/keyjnote libFoundation https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/libFoundation libipoddevice https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/libipoddevice mediawiki-InputBox https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/mediawiki-InputBox mediawiki-Renameuser https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/mediawiki-Renameuser muine https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/muine muine-scrobbler https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/muine-scrobbler nhpf https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/nhpf nssbackup https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/nssbackup onesixtyone https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/onesixtyone oooqs2 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/oooqs2 pdumpfs https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/pdumpfs perl-DDL-Oracle https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/perl-DDL-Oracle perl-MooseX-Traits-Attribute-CascadeClear https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/perl-MooseX-Traits-Attribute-CascadeClear perl-Net-Libdnet https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/perl-Net-Libdnet perl-libwhisker2 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/perl-libwhisker2 php-pear-Config https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/php-pear-Config pic2aa https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/pic2aa prctl
Re: Packages to be removed for Fedora 13
Il 08/02/2010 13:56, Till Maas ha scritto: Hi, at least the following packages are currently going to not be available anymore in Fedora 13. If you still use them, please check at the given URL, whether the owner for Fedora devel is orphan. If it is, please reply to this mail and mention the package. showimg https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/showimg I use showimg. Best regards Alessandro -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Packages to be removed for Fedora 13
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:56 AM, Till Maas opensou...@till.name wrote: muine https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/muine I use muine. -- Marc Wilson m...@cox.net -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Packages to be removed for Fedora 13
Fernando Henrique wrote: I use gnome-applet-netspeed If this package is no longer to be available in F13 is there an alternate package/widget/applet that can be used to monitor download speed? I have always found this really useful all the time -- View this message in context: http://n3.nabble.com/Packages-to-be-removed-for-Fedora-13-tp192315p192686.html Sent from the Fedora Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Packages to be removed for Fedora 13
On Monday 08 February 2010 09:21 AM, Mike Cloaked wrote: Fernando Henrique wrote: I use gnome-applet-netspeed If this package is no longer to be available in F13 is there an alternate package/widget/applet that can be used to monitor download speed? I have always found this really useful all the time If I may suggest a console utility, try vnstat. It can do much more than just monitor your download speed. If you have a webserver running on the box, you can also have a php frontend with pretty graphs. :) Hope this helps. -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Packages to be removed for Fedora 13
On 02/08/2010 01:56 PM, Till Maas wrote: Hi, at least the following packages are currently going to not be available anymore in Fedora 13. If you still use them, please check at the given URL, whether the owner for Fedora devel is orphan. If it is, please reply to this mail and mention the package. k3d https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/k3d It's been a while since I used this the last time, but would consider Fedora dropping this package a pity. Apparently this package suffers from several issues (It currently doesn't build and has some BZ'ed filed), nevertheless it seems to have an active upstream. I am currently trying to get this package building and to address the open BZ's. Should these efforts be without apparent failure, I'd at least temporarily pick up this package to prevent it from being dropped from Fedora. Should somebody more interested than me show up, I'd step back into the co-maintainer position. Ralf -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Packages to be removed for Fedora 13
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 1:10 AM, Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de wrote: On 02/08/2010 01:56 PM, Till Maas wrote: Hi, at least the following packages are currently going to not be available anymore in Fedora 13. If you still use them, please check at the given URL, whether the owner for Fedora devel is orphan. If it is, please reply to this mail and mention the package. k3d https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/k3d It's been a while since I used this the last time, but would consider Fedora dropping this package a pity. Apparently this package suffers from several issues (It currently doesn't build and has some BZ'ed filed), nevertheless it seems to have an active upstream. I am currently trying to get this package building and to address the open BZ's. Should these efforts be without apparent failure, I'd at least temporarily pick up this package to prevent it from being dropped from Fedora. Should somebody more interested than me show up, I'd step back into the co-maintainer position. Ralf then grab it in pkgdb ! -- Itamar Reis Peixoto e-mail/msn/google talk/sip: ita...@ispbrasil.com.br skype: itamarjp icq: 81053601 +55 11 4063 5033 +55 34 3221 8599 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
