Re: please discontinue to moderate Haralds posts (was: a different point of view to etiquette)
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote: On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 08:26:26AM +0200, lee wrote: I don't know what the point is in moderating his posts. He does things Then you haven't seen his messages that haven't made it through the moderation queue. I know not all make it through (CC to inbox). No clue what is in those, I only read the ones who also make it to the mailing list :) Yup, just received my first insult... Do I get a badge now or is there a club I can join? :) Richard -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
please discontinue to moderate Haralds posts (was: a different point of view to etiquette)
inode0 ino...@gmail.com writes: On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Michael Hennebry henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu wrote: This is a reply to a reply sent directly to me as well as to the list. Moderation makes a horrible mess of the flow of discussion. Please don't get mad at each other for getting confused by or not noticing the effect it has. I'm about to the point where I don't think moderation can work. It's usually considered bad behaviour to send Ccs to the poster when replying to posts on mailing lists. Since Harald's post are moderated, he cannot know whether his posts will get through or not and how long they might be delayed. Considering sending Ccs under these circumstances as bad behaviour is somewhat difficult. I don't know what the point is in moderating his posts. He does things himself he does not like when others do them, and he can be told those 100 times not to do them and will steadfastly continue to do them. Moderating his posts isn't going to change that. I do not see Harald posting anything that would make me think he should be unsubscribed, but that could be due to some of his posts not coming through at all due to moderation. This is not a good situation for anyone. It is *far worse* than letting subscribers decide for themselves whether they want to read Haralds posts or not. I suggest to discontinue moderating Haralds posts. If that yields effects which require some sort of action, such action can still be taken --- perhaps after having a vote about it, in lack of a better alternative. PS: Tim, saying that he virtually succeeded in letting himself appear as a victim is misleading. What he succeeded in is making himself better understandable, even though that might not have been his intention. -- Fedora release 19 (Schrödinger’s Cat) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: please discontinue to moderate Haralds posts (was: a different point of view to etiquette)
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 08:26:26 +0200, lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: inode0 ino...@gmail.com writes: It's usually considered bad behaviour to send Ccs to the poster when replying to posts on mailing lists. Since Harald's post are moderated, he cannot know whether his posts will get through or not and how long they might be delayed. Considering sending Ccs under these circumstances as bad behaviour is somewhat difficult. One can use mail-followup-to headers to request that messages be just kept on list. There is also a setting for Fedora's mailing lists to not send copies to the list if a subscriber's address is in the recipient headers. (Though a just off list copy will have different headers that can affect filtering.) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: please discontinue to moderate Haralds posts (was: a different point of view to etiquette)
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 08:26:26AM +0200, lee wrote: I don't know what the point is in moderating his posts. He does things Then you haven't seen his messages that haven't made it through the moderation queue. I know not all make it through (CC to inbox). No clue what is in those, I only read the ones who also make it to the mailing list :) -- Regards, Olav -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: please discontinue to moderate Haralds posts (was: a different point of view to etiquette)
On Thu, 18 Jul 2013, lee wrote: inode0 ino...@gmail.com writes: On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Michael Hennebry henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu wrote: This is a reply to a reply sent directly to me as well as to the list. Moderation makes a horrible mess of the flow of discussion. Please don't get mad at each other for getting confused by or not noticing the effect it has. I'm about to the point where I don't think moderation can work. It's usually considered bad behaviour to send Ccs to the poster when replying to posts on mailing lists. Since Harald's post are moderated, he cannot know whether his posts will get through or not and how long they might be delayed. Considering sending Ccs under these circumstances as bad behaviour is somewhat difficult. In case it was not obvious, my quoted statement was for the primary purpose of ensuring that its readers knew the data-flow sequence. RH had complained about my response appearing on the list before his original. My quoted statement was not criticism. -- Michael henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu On Monday, I'm gonna have to tell my kindergarten class, whom I teach not to run with scissors, that my fiance ran me through with a broadsword. -- Lily -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
