Re: radeon to nvidia to radeon produces pain

2010-06-03 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Thu, 3 Jun 2010, Bruno Wolff III wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 03, 2010 at 01:30:10 -0500,
>  Michael Hennebry  wrote:
>>
>> I might have screamed too soon.
>> After using Xorg -configure,
>> I replaced the old xorg.conf with the generated version.
>> Does this mean I have hardware acceleration at last?
>>> [r...@localhost ~]# glxinfo | grep -e ender -e adeon
>>> IRQ's not enabled, falling back to busy waits: 2 0
>>> direct rendering: Yes
>
> I believe that indicates that at least some level of hardware rendering
> is used.
>
>>> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R600 (RV635 9598) 20090101 AGP 8x  TCL
>>> [r...@localhost ~]#
>> I haven't installed anything that would need it yet.
>> Should I worry that adeon didn't show up?
>
> No. That command is getting information about how much of opengl is supported
> and the hardware manufacturer isn't needed. Though RV635 is the chip that
> is the main part of your video card.
>
> You can look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log if you want to see the words ati and
> radeon.

Thanks.  I should have remembered.
This mess has my brain in about the same condition as Einstein's.

>> I still have the urge to kill something.
>
> Try install a FPS (such as nexuiz) and you can kill two birds with one stone.

No matter how many frames per second I get out of the card,
it won't replace the joy of manually reducing something's necksize.
On that subject, I think FC11 is still overclocking the card.
How do I tell it not to?

Also, a problem I've had forever seems to be worse with FC13.
With FC13, I only get to see about a quarter of
a character on the left edge of the screen.
In the past, I've tried adjusting the monitor, but eventually gave up.
The problem occurs in both text and graphical modes.

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Re: radeon to nvidia to radeon produces pain

2010-06-03 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Jun 03, 2010 at 01:30:10 -0500,
  Michael Hennebry  wrote:
> 
> I might have screamed too soon.
> After using Xorg -configure,
> I replaced the old xorg.conf with the generated version.
> Does this mean I have hardware acceleration at last?
> > [r...@localhost ~]# glxinfo | grep -e ender -e adeon
> > IRQ's not enabled, falling back to busy waits: 2 0
> > direct rendering: Yes

I believe that indicates that at least some level of hardware rendering
is used.

> > OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R600 (RV635 9598) 20090101 AGP 8x  TCL
> > [r...@localhost ~]#
> I haven't installed anything that would need it yet.
> Should I worry that adeon didn't show up?

No. That command is getting information about how much of opengl is supported
and the hardware manufacturer isn't needed. Though RV635 is the chip that
is the main part of your video card.

You can look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log if you want to see the words ati and
radeon.

> I still have the urge to kill something.

Try install a FPS (such as nexuiz) and you can kill two birds with one stone.
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Re: radeon to nvidia to radeon produces pain

2010-06-02 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Jun 03, 2010 at 00:46:00 -0500,
  Michael Hennebry  wrote:
> 
> After tremendous pain, I finally managed to install F13.
> I'm still getting software rendering.
> I hate this.
> Has anyone *ever* used a Radeon HD 3650 AGP with linux?
> If I want hardware acceleration, do I have to get yet another video card?
> Is there any reason not to take a sledgehammer to the one I have?

The 3650 uses an RV635 chip. The r600 series recently got 3d support.
I thought for F13 you didn't need mesa-dri-drivers-experimental for 3d on
r600 and r700 chips, but maybe you do. (You did for F12.)

If you try installing mesa-dri-drivers-experimental and restarting X, you
might see some speed up.

There are still things that the 3d drivers don't do on linux, so that even
with 3d support some things won't be as fast as they would be on other OS's.
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Re: radeon to nvidia to radeon produces pain

2010-06-02 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Thu, 3 Jun 2010, Michael Hennebry wrote:

> On Tue, 1 Jun 2010, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 15:52:02 -0500,
>>  Michael Hennebry  wrote:
>>>
>>> *sigh*
>>> I suppose I'll have to.
>>> It's always a pain.
>>> I prefer to climb one hill at a time.
>>
>> The Radeon driver and related stuff has been changing a lot over the last
>> couple of years. F13 will probably work much better than F11 for your card.
>> A relatively painless way to test this is to use a live image. You can
>> see if there is enough improvement to warrant doing the upgrade before
>> doing it.
>
> After tremendous pain, I finally managed to install F13.
> I'm still getting software rendering.
> I hate this.
> Has anyone *ever* used a Radeon HD 3650 AGP with linux?
> If I want hardware acceleration, do I have to get yet another video card?
> Is there any reason not to take a sledgehammer to the one I have?

I might have screamed too soon.
After using Xorg -configure,
I replaced the old xorg.conf with the generated version.
Does this mean I have hardware acceleration at last?
> [r...@localhost ~]# glxinfo | grep -e ender -e adeon
> IRQ's not enabled, falling back to busy waits: 2 0
> direct rendering: Yes
> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R600 (RV635 9598) 20090101 AGP 8x  TCL
> [r...@localhost ~]#
I haven't installed anything that would need it yet.
Should I worry that adeon didn't show up?

I still have the urge to kill something.

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Re: radeon to nvidia to radeon produces pain

2010-06-02 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Tue, 1 Jun 2010, Bruno Wolff III wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 15:52:02 -0500,
>  Michael Hennebry  wrote:
>>
>> *sigh*
>> I suppose I'll have to.
>> It's always a pain.
>> I prefer to climb one hill at a time.
>
> The Radeon driver and related stuff has been changing a lot over the last
> couple of years. F13 will probably work much better than F11 for your card.
> A relatively painless way to test this is to use a live image. You can
> see if there is enough improvement to warrant doing the upgrade before
> doing it.

After tremendous pain, I finally managed to install F13.
I'm still getting software rendering.
I hate this.
Has anyone *ever* used a Radeon HD 3650 AGP with linux?
If I want hardware acceleration, do I have to get yet another video card?
Is there any reason not to take a sledgehammer to the one I have?

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Re: radeon to nvidia to radeon produces pain

2010-06-01 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 15:52:02 -0500,
  Michael Hennebry  wrote:
> 
> *sigh*
> I suppose I'll have to.
> It's always a pain.
> I prefer to climb one hill at a time.

The Radeon driver and related stuff has been changing a lot over the last
couple of years. F13 will probably work much better than F11 for your card.
A relatively painless way to test this is to use a live image. You can
see if there is enough improvement to warrant doing the upgrade before
doing it.
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Re: radeon to nvidia to radeon produces pain

2010-06-01 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Tue, 1 Jun 2010, Mike Fedyk wrote:

> The radeonhd driver is unmaintained.  It has been removed from later
> versions of fedora.
>
> try booting with "nomodeset" in the kernel command line (hint: press
> "e" while in the grub boot menu)

I've done that.  It didn't help.

> I recommend updating to a newer version of fedora.  It will have a
> newer version of the radeon driver.

*sigh*
I suppose I'll have to.
It's always a pain.
I prefer to climb one hill at a time.

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Re: radeon to nvidia to radeon produces pain

2010-06-01 Thread Mike Fedyk
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 6:45 AM, Michael Hennebry
 wrote:
> On Mon, 31 May 2010, Suvayu Ali wrote:
>
>> On Monday 31 May 2010 08:48 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>>> A friend suggested that I need a radeonhd driver.
>>> yum provides '*radeonhd*'
>>> lists at least two.
>>> Do I need a radeonhd driver, and, if so,
>>> how do I tell which one will work?
>>>
>> radeonhd has been abandoned and is not being maintained any more. The
>> radeon stack is the prescribed open source driver for all ATI cards now.
>
> The radeon stack (why is it called a stack?)

People might call it a stack because there are multiple components
(xorg, mesa, etc.)

> seems not to like my Radeon HD 3650.
> To get it to work at all, I had to install FC11 again.
> Though the card is still being overclocked, all I get is vesa.
>
> Did any version of radeonhd ever work for Radeon HD 3650?
> If so, how do I install it?
>

The radeonhd driver is unmaintained.  It has been removed from later
versions of fedora.

try booting with "nomodeset" in the kernel command line (hint: press
"e" while in the grub boot menu)

I recommend updating to a newer version of fedora.  It will have a
newer version of the radeon driver.
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Re: radeon to nvidia to radeon produces pain

2010-06-01 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 08:45:51 -0500 (CDT)
Michael Hennebry wrote:

> Did any version of radeonhd ever work for Radeon HD 3650?
> If so, how do I install it?

I don't know about the 3650, but my HD 2400 at work would
crash fairly often with the radeon driver on fedora 12
(I'm using fedora 13 radeon now, and so far no crashes).

On fedora 12 I did:

yum install xorg-x11-drv-radeonhd

(I think that was the name), then cobbled up an xorg.conf
file with this driver section:

Section "Device"
Identifier  "Videocard0"
Option  "DRI" "off"
Option  "AccelMethod" "shadowfb"
Option  "NoRandr"
Option  "UnverifiedFeatures" "off"
Driver  "radeonhd"
EndSection

The radeonhd driver wouldn't work very well either, but at
least it had lots of options I could add to turn off
just about all acceleration and get stable 2D video.

Full details of my fedora 12 experience with this card
are in: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=541387
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Re: radeon to nvidia to radeon produces pain

2010-06-01 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Mon, 31 May 2010, Suvayu Ali wrote:

> On Monday 31 May 2010 08:48 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>> A friend suggested that I need a radeonhd driver.
>> yum provides '*radeonhd*'
>> lists at least two.
>> Do I need a radeonhd driver, and, if so,
>> how do I tell which one will work?
>>
> radeonhd has been abandoned and is not being maintained any more. The
> radeon stack is the prescribed open source driver for all ATI cards now.

The radeon stack (why is it called a stack?)
seems not to like my Radeon HD 3650.
To get it to work at all, I had to install FC11 again.
Though the card is still being overclocked, all I get is vesa.

Did any version of radeonhd ever work for Radeon HD 3650?
If so, how do I install it?


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Re: radeon to nvidia to radeon produces pain

2010-05-31 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Monday 31 May 2010 08:48 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
> A friend suggested that I need a radeonhd driver.
> yum provides '*radeonhd*'
> lists at least two.
> Do I need a radeonhd driver, and, if so,
> how do I tell which one will work?
>
radeonhd has been abandoned and is not being maintained any more. The 
radeon stack is the prescribed open source driver for all ATI cards now.

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Re: radeon to nvidia to radeon produces pain

2010-05-31 Thread Michael Hennebry
A friend suggested that I need a radeonhd driver.
yum provides '*radeonhd*'
lists at least two.
Do I need a radeonhd driver, and, if so,
how do I tell which one will work?

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Re: radeon to nvidia to radeon produces pain

2010-05-31 Thread Michael Hennebry
I installed FC11 on another set of partitions
and got something that more or less runs.
I made the mistake of not customizing the package list,
so I'm stuck with gnome.  Gnome is loud.  Gnome is not KDE.
I still can't watch hulu.
I need a flash plugin and cannot remember the magic formula.
Following the bread crumbs didn't help.
Hula probably doesn't look good with vesa anyway.
Fedora is still overclocking the card.

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Re: radeon to nvidia to radeon produces pain

2010-05-31 Thread Michael Hennebry
Any more ideas?
Perhaps everyone is gone for the weekend.

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Re: radeon to nvidia to radeon produces pain

2010-05-30 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Sat, 29 May 2010, Craig White wrote:

> On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 10:45 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>> On Fri, 28 May 2010, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>>
>>> I'm on my third video card.
>>> The first was a radeon.
>>> After I zapped that one, I had it replaced with
>>> an nvidia card because it had AGP and I could find it.
>>> Having cooked or otherwise damaged that one,
>>> I replaced it with a VisionTek Radeon HD 3650.
>>> It was the AGP card I could find.
>>> Knoppix 5.1.0 runs just fine.
>>
>> I tried Xorg -probe
>> X -config /root/xorg.conf.new
>> just produced a messy screen.  No discernable image.
>> Here is /root/xorg.conf.new :

>> I hate it when things just don't work.
> 
> Not sure exactly where you are going with all of this but you should at
> least start with the default which is no xorg.conf at all - so maybe as
> root, you should just 'mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf-saved'
> and then reboot and see what happens because I would guess that the
> knoppix org.conf you are trying to use is from a much earlier version of
> xorg.

What about copying the driver from knoppix?

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Re: radeon to nvidia to radeon produces pain

2010-05-29 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Sat, 29 May 2010, Michael Hennebry wrote:

> On Sat, 29 May 2010, Craig White wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 10:45 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>>> On Fri, 28 May 2010, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>>>
 I'm on my third video card.
 The first was a radeon.
 After I zapped that one, I had it replaced with
 an nvidia card because it had AGP and I could find it.
 Having cooked or otherwise damaged that one,
 I replaced it with a VisionTek Radeon HD 3650.
 It was the AGP card I could find.
 Knoppix 5.1.0 runs just fine.
>>>
>>> I tried Xorg -probe
>>> X -config /root/xorg.conf.new
>>> just produced a messy screen.  No discernable image.
>>> Here is /root/xorg.conf.new :
>
>> Not sure exactly where you are going with all of this but you should at
>> least start with the default which is no xorg.conf at all - so maybe as
>
> That was one of the first things I tried,
> but I'll try it again.

I tried it again.  It still didn;t work.
In Xorg.0.log there is a warning that it is using the preferred frequency,
135 MHz, even though it is greater than the maximum frequency, 130 MHz.
How do I tell it not to do that?

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Re: radeon to nvidia to radeon produces pain

2010-05-29 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Sat, 29 May 2010, Craig White wrote:

> On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 10:45 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>> On Fri, 28 May 2010, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>>
>>> I'm on my third video card.
>>> The first was a radeon.
>>> After I zapped that one, I had it replaced with
>>> an nvidia card because it had AGP and I could find it.
>>> Having cooked or otherwise damaged that one,
>>> I replaced it with a VisionTek Radeon HD 3650.
>>> It was the AGP card I could find.
>>> Knoppix 5.1.0 runs just fine.
>>
>> I tried Xorg -probe
>> X -config /root/xorg.conf.new
>> just produced a messy screen.  No discernable image.
>> Here is /root/xorg.conf.new :

> Not sure exactly where you are going with all of this but you should at
> least start with the default which is no xorg.conf at all - so maybe as

That was one of the first things I tried,
but I'll try it again.

> root, you should just 'mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf-saved'
> and then reboot and see what happens because I would guess that the
> knoppix org.conf you are trying to use is from a much earlier version of
> xorg.

I never copied and xorg.conf from knoppix.
That I could use knoppix demonstrated that the hardware worked.
The quoted xorg.conf.new was from Xorg -probe .

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Re: radeon to nvidia to radeon produces pain

2010-05-29 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 10:45 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote:
> On Fri, 28 May 2010, Michael Hennebry wrote:
> 
> > I'm on my third video card.
> > The first was a radeon.
> > After I zapped that one, I had it replaced with
> > an nvidia card because it had AGP and I could find it.
> > Having cooked or otherwise damaged that one,
> > I replaced it with a VisionTek Radeon HD 3650.
> > It was the AGP card I could find.
> > Knoppix 5.1.0 runs just fine.
> 
> I tried Xorg -probe
> X -config /root/xorg.conf.new
> just produced a messy screen.  No discernable image.
> Here is /root/xorg.conf.new :
> > Section "ServerLayout"
> > Identifier "X.org Configured"
> > Screen  0  "Screen0" 0 0
> > InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer"
> > InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
> > EndSection
> > 
> > Section "Files"
> > ModulePath   "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
> > FontPath "catalogue:/etc/X11/fontpath.d"
> > FontPath "built-ins"
> > EndSection
> > 
> > Section "Module"
> > Load  "dbe"
> > Load  "glx"
> > Load  "dri2"
> > Load  "record"
> > Load  "dri"
> > Load  "extmod"
> > EndSection
> > 
> > Section "InputDevice"
> > Identifier  "Keyboard0"
> > Driver  "kbd"
> > EndSection
> > 
> > Section "InputDevice"
> > Identifier  "Mouse0"
> > Driver  "mouse"
> > Option  "Protocol" "auto"
> > Option  "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
> > Option  "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
> > EndSection
> > 
> > Section "Monitor"
> > #DisplaySize  340   270 # mm
> > Identifier   "Monitor0"
> > VendorName   "AOC"
> > ModelName"LM720/LM720A"
> > HorizSync30.0 - 83.0
> > VertRefresh  55.0 - 75.0
> > Option  "DPMS"
> > EndSection
> > 
> > Section "Device"
> > ### Available Driver options are:-
> > ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False",
> > ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz"
> > ### [arg]: arg optional
> > #Option "NoAccel"   # []
> > #Option "SWcursor"  # []
> > #Option "Dac6Bit"   # []
> > #Option "Dac8Bit"   # []
> > #Option "BusType"   # []
> > #Option "CPPIOMode" # []
> > #Option "CPusecTimeout" # 
> > #Option "AGPMode"   # 
> > #Option "AGPFastWrite"  # []
> > #Option "AGPSize"   # 
> > #Option "GARTSize"  # 
> > #Option "RingSize"  # 
> > #Option "BufferSize"# 
> > #Option "EnableDepthMoves"  # []
> > #Option "EnablePageFlip"# []
> > #Option "NoBackBuffer"  # []
> > #Option "DMAForXv"  # []
> > #Option "FBTexPercent"  # 
> > #Option "DepthBits" # 
> > #Option "PCIAPERSize"   # 
> > #Option "AccelDFS"  # []
> > #Option "IgnoreEDID"# []
> > #Option "DisplayPriority"   # []
> > #Option "PanelSize" # []
> > #Option "ForceMinDotClock"  # 
> > #Option "ColorTiling"   # []
> > #Option "VideoKey"  # 
> > #Option "RageTheatreCrystal"# 
> > #Option "RageTheatreTunerPort"  # 
> > #Option "RageTheatreCompositePort"  # 
> > #Option "RageTheatreSVideoPort" # 
> > #Option "TunerType" # 
> > #Option "RageTheatreMicrocPath" # 
> > #Option "RageTheatreMicrocType" # 
> > #Option "ScalerWidth"   # 
> > #Option "RenderAccel"   # []
> > #Option "SubPixelOrder" # []
> > #Option "ShowCache" # []
> > #Option "DynamicClocks" # []
> > #Option "VGAAccess" # []
> > #Option "ReverseDDC"# []
> > #Option "LVDSProbePLL"  # []
> > #Option "AccelMethod"   # 
> > #Option "DRI"   # []
> > #Option "ConnectorTable"# 
> > #Option "DefaultConnectorTable" # []
> > #Option "DefaultTMDSPLL"# []
> > #Option "TVDACLoadDetect"   # []
> > #Option "ForceTVOut"# []
> > #Option "TVStandard"# 
> > #Option "IgnoreLidStatus"   # []
> > #Option "DefaultTVDACAdj"   # []
> > #Option "Int10" # []
> > #Option "EXAVSync"  # []
> > #Option "ATOMTVOut" # []
> > #Option "R4xxATOM"  # []
> > Identifier  "Card0"
> > Driver  "radeon"

Re: radeon to nvidia to radeon produces pain

2010-05-29 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Fri, 28 May 2010, Michael Hennebry wrote:

> I'm on my third video card.
> The first was a radeon.
> After I zapped that one, I had it replaced with
> an nvidia card because it had AGP and I could find it.
> Having cooked or otherwise damaged that one,
> I replaced it with a VisionTek Radeon HD 3650.
> It was the AGP card I could find.
> Knoppix 5.1.0 runs just fine.

I tried Xorg -probe
X -config /root/xorg.conf.new
just produced a messy screen.  No discernable image.
Here is /root/xorg.conf.new :
> Section "ServerLayout"
>   Identifier "X.org Configured"
>   Screen  0  "Screen0" 0 0
>   InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer"
>   InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Files"
>   ModulePath   "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
>   FontPath "catalogue:/etc/X11/fontpath.d"
>   FontPath "built-ins"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Module"
>   Load  "dbe"
>   Load  "glx"
>   Load  "dri2"
>   Load  "record"
>   Load  "dri"
>   Load  "extmod"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "InputDevice"
>   Identifier  "Keyboard0"
>   Driver  "kbd"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "InputDevice"
>   Identifier  "Mouse0"
>   Driver  "mouse"
>   Option  "Protocol" "auto"
>   Option  "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
>   Option  "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Monitor"
>   #DisplaySize  340   270 # mm
>   Identifier   "Monitor0"
>   VendorName   "AOC"
>   ModelName"LM720/LM720A"
>   HorizSync30.0 - 83.0
>   VertRefresh  55.0 - 75.0
>   Option  "DPMS"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Device"
> ### Available Driver options are:-
> ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False",
> ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz"
> ### [arg]: arg optional
> #Option "NoAccel" # []
> #Option "SWcursor"# []
> #Option "Dac6Bit" # []
> #Option "Dac8Bit" # []
> #Option "BusType" # []
> #Option "CPPIOMode"   # []
> #Option "CPusecTimeout"   # 
> #Option "AGPMode" # 
> #Option "AGPFastWrite"# []
> #Option "AGPSize" # 
> #Option "GARTSize"# 
> #Option "RingSize"# 
> #Option "BufferSize"  # 
> #Option "EnableDepthMoves"# []
> #Option "EnablePageFlip"  # []
> #Option "NoBackBuffer"# []
> #Option "DMAForXv"# []
> #Option "FBTexPercent"# 
> #Option "DepthBits"   # 
> #Option "PCIAPERSize" # 
> #Option "AccelDFS"# []
> #Option "IgnoreEDID"  # []
> #Option "DisplayPriority" # []
> #Option "PanelSize"   # []
> #Option "ForceMinDotClock"# 
> #Option "ColorTiling" # []
> #Option "VideoKey"# 
> #Option "RageTheatreCrystal"  # 
> #Option "RageTheatreTunerPort"# 
> #Option "RageTheatreCompositePort"# 
> #Option "RageTheatreSVideoPort"   # 
> #Option "TunerType"   # 
> #Option "RageTheatreMicrocPath"   # 
> #Option "RageTheatreMicrocType"   # 
> #Option "ScalerWidth" # 
> #Option "RenderAccel" # []
> #Option "SubPixelOrder"   # []
> #Option "ShowCache"   # []
> #Option "DynamicClocks"   # []
> #Option "VGAAccess"   # []
> #Option "ReverseDDC"  # []
> #Option "LVDSProbePLL"# []
> #Option "AccelMethod" # 
> #Option "DRI" # []
> #Option "ConnectorTable"  # 
> #Option "DefaultConnectorTable"   # []
> #Option "DefaultTMDSPLL"  # []
> #Option "TVDACLoadDetect" # []
> #Option "ForceTVOut"  # []
> #Option "TVStandard"  # 
> #Option "IgnoreLidStatus" # []
> #Option "DefaultTVDACAdj" # []
> #Option "Int10"   # []
> #Option "EXAVSync"# []
> #Option "ATOMTVOut"   # []
> #Option "R4xxATOM"# []
>   Identifier  "Card0"
>   Driver  "radeon"
>   VendorName  "ATI Technologies Inc"
>   BoardName   "Mobility Radeon HD 3600 Series"
>   BusID   "PCI:1:0:0"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Screen"
>  

Re: radeon to nvidia to radeon produces pain

2010-05-29 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Fri, 28 May 2010, Michael Hennebry wrote:

> I'm on my third video card.
> The first was a radeon.
> After I zapped that one, I had it replaced with
> an nvidia card because it had AGP and I could find it.
> Having cooked or otherwise damaged that one,
> I replaced it with a VisionTek Radeon HD 3650.
> It was the AGP card I could find.
> Knoppix 5.1.0 runs just fine.

During start up, Knoppix emits a line like
... ATI ... Unkown device 9598 ... Xorg(ati)

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Re: radeon to nvidia to radeon produces pain

2010-05-29 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Fri, 28 May 2010, Michael Hennebry wrote:

> I'm on my third video card.
> The first was a radeon.
> After I zapped that one, I had it replaced with
> an nvidia card because it had AGP and I could find it.
> Having cooked or otherwise damaged that one,
> I replaced it with a VisionTek Radeon HD 3650.
> It was the AGP card I could find.
> Knoppix 5.1.0 runs just fine.
> I'm using it now.
> knop...@knoppix:~$ uname -a
> Linux Knoppix 2.6.19 #7 SMP PREEMPT Sun Dec 17 22:01:07 CET 2006 i686
> GNU/Linux
> knop...@knoppix:~$
> Fedora 11, not so great.
> It never gets to X.
> The last messages to the console involve the ethernet connection.

Here is the result of dmesg | tail
> ip6_tables: (C) 2000-2006 Netfilter Core Team
> RPC: Registered udp transport module.
> RPC: Registered tcp transport module.
> SELinux: initialized (dev rpc_pipefs, type rpc_pipefs), uses 
genfs_contexts
> ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready
> e100: eth0 NIC Link is Up 100 Mbps Full Duplex
> ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): eth0: link becomes ready
> audit(1275135885.989:15398): auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 
subj=system_u:system_r:readahead_t:s0 op=remove rule key=(null) list=4 res=0
> audit(1275135885.989:15399): audit_enabled=0 old=1 auid=4294967295 
ses=4294967295 subj=system_u:system_r:readahead_t:s0 res=1
> eth0: no IPv6 routers present

I might have accidentally broken some lines.

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radeon to nvidia to radeon produces pain

2010-05-28 Thread Michael Hennebry
I'm on my third video card.
The first was a radeon.
After I zapped that one, I had it replaced with
an nvidia card because it had AGP and I could find it.
Having cooked or otherwise damaged that one,
I replaced it with a VisionTek Radeon HD 3650.
It was the AGP card I could find.
Knoppix 5.1.0 runs just fine.
I'm using it now.
knop...@knoppix:~$ uname -a
Linux Knoppix 2.6.19 #7 SMP PREEMPT Sun Dec 17 22:01:07 CET 2006 i686 
GNU/Linux
knop...@knoppix:~$
Fedora 11, not so great.
It never gets to X.
The last messages to the console involve the ethernet connection.
Disconnecting and reconnecting results in more messages.
Alternate consoles show the login prompt.
After logging in as root, I have to run dhclient explicitly
to acccess the internet.
At the suggestion of a friend, I did
yum grouperase 'X Window System'
yum groupinstall 'X Window System'
It didn't help.
Xorg.conf now says I have vesa where I used to say I had nvidia.
What do I need to do to make Fedora work?

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