Re: AW: site-deploy using wagon-ssh: User input needed

[Georgy Lago]

Hi Gerrit,

This is an old topic, and you may have solved it some way or another by now. 
But just as I struggled with this same problem, I figured I would share the
answer for the benefit of others running into this.

The problem is that 64-bit Windows has two system profile folders. 32-bit
processes get redirected to %SystemRoot%\SysWOW64\config\systemprofile when
accessing %SystemRoot%\System32\config\systemprofile.

When you copied the .ssh\known_hosts file with Windows Explorer, you put it
in the folder where only other 64-bit processes would see it.  You are
likely running maven with a 32-bit Java and it is expecting to find the
.ssh/ folder under the SysWOW64 system profile path.

Regards,
Georgy



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Plugins to extend the APT format? (For use with the Maven Site plugin)

[Nick Burch]

Hi All

For Apache Tika, we currently use the Maven Site plugin, along with the 
APT format for our site content. We are looking to automatically pull in 
snippets of code from svn into the published site, much as the ASF CMS 
supports 


I'm fairly happy about how to do the snippet-fetching part, what's 
stumping me is finding an example plugin to allow the Maven Site plugin to 
process additional kinds of markup in the APT format. (Or failing that, 
any other simple-ish Maven Site plugin supported formats like Markdown)


Could anyone point me to an example for extending one of the formats like 
this?


Thanks
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archetype:integration-test generated archetype build depends on parent project

[Robert Metzger]

Hi,

we use the archetype:integration-test to test if the archetypes we generate
successfully compile.
Our archetypes (we call them "quickstart") are located within the main
project.
So we have
- parent
  - core
  - runtime
  - clients
  - quickstart
 - quickstart-java
 - quickstart-scala
as a project hierarchy.

To build the archetype generated by "quickstart-java" we need the artifacts
from "core" and "runtime".
So if we do a "mvn clean verify" on our project, and the user has not
executed "mvn clean install" before (and the artifacts are not available
online), the build fails.

Is there a way to tell maven to add the artifacts from "core" and "runtime"
into the tests classpath?
Or can we somehow automatically execute the "install" phase when a user
requests the "verify" phase?

You can find our project here: https://github.com/apache/incubator-flink


-- Robert

Re: Testing Maven 3.2.3

[Jason van Zyl]

Unlikely. The cost of the connection setup is negligible in the grand scheme of 
things if the connections are pooled and you're using something like SPDY/HTTP2 
and a good client. Trying to manage TLS and non-TLS connections to the same 
server would not be worth the complexity for likely no performance improvement. 
Note that all Google servers are SPDY-enabled and all modern Android devices 
will connect using SPDY and this all scales and performs well.

On Aug 13, 2014, at 7:25 AM, cody.a.fy...@wellsfargo.com wrote:

> Any chance we can use ssl only for the hashes and throw an error when 
> validation fails? (as a future option)
> 
> Cody Fyler
> Lending Grid Build Team
> G=Lending Grid Builds
> (515) – 441 - 0814
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Hilton Wichwski Silva [mailto:hws...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 9:19 AM
> To: Maven Users List
> Subject: Re: Testing Maven 3.2.3
> 
> Example:
> http://blog.ontoillogical.com/blog/2014/07/28/how-to-take-over-any-java-developer/
> 
> 
> 2014-08-13 11:16 GMT-03:00 :
> 
>> Just out of curiosity, why use https to download artifacts?
>> 
>> This does not seem like sensitive data that requires an encrypted 
>> connection.
>> 
>> Cody Fyler
>> Lending Grid Build Team
>> G=Lending Grid Builds
>> (515) - 441 - 0814
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:ja...@takari.io]
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 12:36 AM
>> To: Maven Users List
>> Subject: Testing Maven 3.2.3
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> We have staged Maven 3.2.3 and I'd ask that users try and test this 
>> version because we have changed to using the HTTPS connection to Maven 
>> Central by default. The information for the release can be found 
>> below. I encourage users to give this release a spin before we 
>> actually release it to ensure the HTTPS connection is working for everyone.
>> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>>> From: Jason van Zyl 
>>> Subject: [VOTE] Maven 3.2.3 Release
>>> Date: August 11, 2014 at 2:19:34 PM PDT
>>> To: Maven Developers List 
>>> Reply-To: "Maven Developers List" 
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Time to release Maven 3.2.3!
>>> 
>>> This release contains the important change of switching to HTTPS
>> transport by default! Please test this release with your builds!
>>> 
>>> Here is a link to Jira with 9 issues resolved:
>>> https://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10500&ve
>>> rs
>>> ion=20443
>>> 
>>> Staging repo:
>>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-1046/
>>> 
>>> The distributable binaries and sources for testing can be found here:
>>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-1046/org/ap
>>> ac
>>> he/maven/apache-maven/3.2.3/
>>> 
>>> Specifically the zip, tarball, and source archives can be found here:
>>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-1046/org/ap
>>> ac he/maven/apache-maven/3.2.3/apache-maven-3.2.3-bin.zip
>>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-1046/org/ap
>>> ac he/maven/apache-maven/3.2.3/apache-maven-3.2.3-bin.tar.gz
>>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-1046/org/ap
>>> ac he/maven/apache-maven/3.2.3/apache-maven-3.2.3-src.zip
>>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-1046/org/ap
>>> ac he/maven/apache-maven/3.2.3/apache-maven-3.2.3-src.tar.gz
>>> 
>>> Source release checksum(s):
>>> apache-maven-3.2.3-src.zip sha1:
>>> 8607b9922d21078133f31ed8523ebae90a871d1f
>>> 
>>> Staging site:
>>> http://people.apache.org/~jvanzyl/maven-3.2.3/
>>> 
>>> Vote open for 72 hours.
>>> 
>>> [ ] +1
>>> [ ] +0
>>> [ ] -1
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> The Maven Team
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Jason
>> 
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>> 
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RE: Testing Maven 3.2.3

[cody.a.fyler]

Any chance we can use ssl only for the hashes and throw an error when 
validation fails? (as a future option)

Cody Fyler
Lending Grid Build Team
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(515) – 441 - 0814


-Original Message-
From: Hilton Wichwski Silva [mailto:hws...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 9:19 AM
To: Maven Users List
Subject: Re: Testing Maven 3.2.3

Example:
http://blog.ontoillogical.com/blog/2014/07/28/how-to-take-over-any-java-developer/


2014-08-13 11:16 GMT-03:00 :

> Just out of curiosity, why use https to download artifacts?
>
> This does not seem like sensitive data that requires an encrypted 
> connection.
>
> Cody Fyler
> Lending Grid Build Team
> G=Lending Grid Builds
> (515) - 441 - 0814
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:ja...@takari.io]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 12:36 AM
> To: Maven Users List
> Subject: Testing Maven 3.2.3
>
> Hi,
>
> We have staged Maven 3.2.3 and I'd ask that users try and test this 
> version because we have changed to using the HTTPS connection to Maven 
> Central by default. The information for the release can be found 
> below. I encourage users to give this release a spin before we 
> actually release it to ensure the HTTPS connection is working for everyone.
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> > From: Jason van Zyl 
> > Subject: [VOTE] Maven 3.2.3 Release
> > Date: August 11, 2014 at 2:19:34 PM PDT
> > To: Maven Developers List 
> > Reply-To: "Maven Developers List" 
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Time to release Maven 3.2.3!
> >
> > This release contains the important change of switching to HTTPS
> transport by default! Please test this release with your builds!
> >
> > Here is a link to Jira with 9 issues resolved:
> > https://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10500&ve
> > rs
> > ion=20443
> >
> > Staging repo:
> > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-1046/
> >
> > The distributable binaries and sources for testing can be found here:
> > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-1046/org/ap
> > ac
> > he/maven/apache-maven/3.2.3/
> >
> > Specifically the zip, tarball, and source archives can be found here:
> > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-1046/org/ap
> > ac he/maven/apache-maven/3.2.3/apache-maven-3.2.3-bin.zip
> > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-1046/org/ap
> > ac he/maven/apache-maven/3.2.3/apache-maven-3.2.3-bin.tar.gz
> > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-1046/org/ap
> > ac he/maven/apache-maven/3.2.3/apache-maven-3.2.3-src.zip
> > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-1046/org/ap
> > ac he/maven/apache-maven/3.2.3/apache-maven-3.2.3-src.tar.gz
> >
> > Source release checksum(s):
> > apache-maven-3.2.3-src.zip sha1:
> > 8607b9922d21078133f31ed8523ebae90a871d1f
> >
> > Staging site:
> > http://people.apache.org/~jvanzyl/maven-3.2.3/
> >
> > Vote open for 72 hours.
> >
> > [ ] +1
> > [ ] +0
> > [ ] -1
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > The Maven Team
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jason
>
> --
> Jason van Zyl
> Founder,  Apache Maven
> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> -
>
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> technical order to justify his work and to be justified in it.
>
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>
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Re: Testing Maven 3.2.3

[Hilton Wichwski Silva]

Example:
http://blog.ontoillogical.com/blog/2014/07/28/how-to-take-over-any-java-developer/


2014-08-13 11:16 GMT-03:00 :

> Just out of curiosity, why use https to download artifacts?
>
> This does not seem like sensitive data that requires an encrypted
> connection.
>
> Cody Fyler
> Lending Grid Build Team
> G=Lending Grid Builds
> (515) - 441 - 0814
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:ja...@takari.io]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 12:36 AM
> To: Maven Users List
> Subject: Testing Maven 3.2.3
>
> Hi,
>
> We have staged Maven 3.2.3 and I'd ask that users try and test this
> version because we have changed to using the HTTPS connection to Maven
> Central by default. The information for the release can be found below. I
> encourage users to give this release a spin before we actually release it
> to ensure the HTTPS connection is working for everyone.
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> > From: Jason van Zyl 
> > Subject: [VOTE] Maven 3.2.3 Release
> > Date: August 11, 2014 at 2:19:34 PM PDT
> > To: Maven Developers List 
> > Reply-To: "Maven Developers List" 
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Time to release Maven 3.2.3!
> >
> > This release contains the important change of switching to HTTPS
> transport by default! Please test this release with your builds!
> >
> > Here is a link to Jira with 9 issues resolved:
> > https://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10500&vers
> > ion=20443
> >
> > Staging repo:
> > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-1046/
> >
> > The distributable binaries and sources for testing can be found here:
> > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-1046/org/apac
> > he/maven/apache-maven/3.2.3/
> >
> > Specifically the zip, tarball, and source archives can be found here:
> > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-1046/org/apac
> > he/maven/apache-maven/3.2.3/apache-maven-3.2.3-bin.zip
> > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-1046/org/apac
> > he/maven/apache-maven/3.2.3/apache-maven-3.2.3-bin.tar.gz
> > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-1046/org/apac
> > he/maven/apache-maven/3.2.3/apache-maven-3.2.3-src.zip
> > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-1046/org/apac
> > he/maven/apache-maven/3.2.3/apache-maven-3.2.3-src.tar.gz
> >
> > Source release checksum(s):
> > apache-maven-3.2.3-src.zip sha1:
> > 8607b9922d21078133f31ed8523ebae90a871d1f
> >
> > Staging site:
> > http://people.apache.org/~jvanzyl/maven-3.2.3/
> >
> > Vote open for 72 hours.
> >
> > [ ] +1
> > [ ] +0
> > [ ] -1
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > The Maven Team
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jason
>
> --
> Jason van Zyl
> Founder,  Apache Maven
> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> -
>
> In short, man creates for himself a new religion of a rational and
> technical order to justify his work and to be justified in it.
>
>   -- Jacques Ellul, The Technological Society
>
>
>
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RE: Testing Maven 3.2.3

[cody.a.fyler]

Just out of curiosity, why use https to download artifacts?

This does not seem like sensitive data that requires an encrypted connection.

Cody Fyler
Lending Grid Build Team
G=Lending Grid Builds
(515) - 441 - 0814

-Original Message-
From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:ja...@takari.io] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 12:36 AM
To: Maven Users List
Subject: Testing Maven 3.2.3

Hi,

We have staged Maven 3.2.3 and I'd ask that users try and test this version 
because we have changed to using the HTTPS connection to Maven Central by 
default. The information for the release can be found below. I encourage users 
to give this release a spin before we actually release it to ensure the HTTPS 
connection is working for everyone.

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Jason van Zyl 
> Subject: [VOTE] Maven 3.2.3 Release
> Date: August 11, 2014 at 2:19:34 PM PDT
> To: Maven Developers List 
> Reply-To: "Maven Developers List" 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Time to release Maven 3.2.3!
> 
> This release contains the important change of switching to HTTPS transport by 
> default! Please test this release with your builds!
> 
> Here is a link to Jira with 9 issues resolved:
> https://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10500&vers
> ion=20443
> 
> Staging repo:
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-1046/
> 
> The distributable binaries and sources for testing can be found here:
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-1046/org/apac
> he/maven/apache-maven/3.2.3/
> 
> Specifically the zip, tarball, and source archives can be found here:
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-1046/org/apac
> he/maven/apache-maven/3.2.3/apache-maven-3.2.3-bin.zip
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-1046/org/apac
> he/maven/apache-maven/3.2.3/apache-maven-3.2.3-bin.tar.gz
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-1046/org/apac
> he/maven/apache-maven/3.2.3/apache-maven-3.2.3-src.zip
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-1046/org/apac
> he/maven/apache-maven/3.2.3/apache-maven-3.2.3-src.tar.gz
> 
> Source release checksum(s):
> apache-maven-3.2.3-src.zip sha1: 
> 8607b9922d21078133f31ed8523ebae90a871d1f
> 
> Staging site:
> http://people.apache.org/~jvanzyl/maven-3.2.3/
> 
> Vote open for 72 hours.
> 
> [ ] +1
> [ ] +0
> [ ] -1
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> The Maven Team
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Thanks,

Jason

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Re: Testing Maven 3.2.3

[Jason van Zyl]

Awesome, thanks.

On Aug 13, 2014, at 3:52 AM, Sievers, Jan  wrote:

> I can confirm https access to https://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2 works fine 
> with staged maven 3.2.3 when building Tycho demo project
> 
> http://git.eclipse.org/c/tycho/org.eclipse.tycho-demo.git/tree/itp04-rcp 
> 
> from behind an http(s) proxy.
> 
> Regards,
> Jan
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:ja...@takari.io] 
> Sent: Mittwoch, 13. August 2014 07:36
> To: Maven Users List
> Subject: Testing Maven 3.2.3
> 
> Hi,
> 
> We have staged Maven 3.2.3 and I'd ask that users try and test this version 
> because we have changed to using the HTTPS connection to Maven Central by 
> default. The information for the release can be found below. I encourage 
> users to give this release a spin before we actually release it to ensure the 
> HTTPS connection is working for everyone.
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> From: Jason van Zyl 
>> Subject: [VOTE] Maven 3.2.3 Release
>> Date: August 11, 2014 at 2:19:34 PM PDT
>> To: Maven Developers List 
>> Reply-To: "Maven Developers List" 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Time to release Maven 3.2.3!
>> 
>> This release contains the important change of switching to HTTPS transport 
>> by default! Please test this release with your builds!
>> 
>> Here is a link to Jira with 9 issues resolved:
>> https://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10500&version=20443
>> 
>> Staging repo:
>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-1046/
>> 
>> The distributable binaries and sources for testing can be found here:
>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-1046/org/apache/maven/apache-maven/3.2.3/
>> 
>> Specifically the zip, tarball, and source archives can be found here:
>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-1046/org/apache/maven/apache-maven/3.2.3/apache-maven-3.2.3-bin.zip
>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-1046/org/apache/maven/apache-maven/3.2.3/apache-maven-3.2.3-bin.tar.gz
>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-1046/org/apache/maven/apache-maven/3.2.3/apache-maven-3.2.3-src.zip
>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-1046/org/apache/maven/apache-maven/3.2.3/apache-maven-3.2.3-src.tar.gz
>> 
>> Source release checksum(s):
>> apache-maven-3.2.3-src.zip sha1: 8607b9922d21078133f31ed8523ebae90a871d1f
>> 
>> Staging site:
>> http://people.apache.org/~jvanzyl/maven-3.2.3/
>> 
>> Vote open for 72 hours.
>> 
>> [ ] +1
>> [ ] +0
>> [ ] -1
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> The Maven Team
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jason
> 
> --
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> http://twitter.com/takari_io
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RE: Testing Maven 3.2.3

[Sievers, Jan]

I can confirm https access to https://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2 works fine 
with staged maven 3.2.3 when building Tycho demo project

http://git.eclipse.org/c/tycho/org.eclipse.tycho-demo.git/tree/itp04-rcp 

from behind an http(s) proxy.

Regards,
Jan

-Original Message-
From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:ja...@takari.io] 
Sent: Mittwoch, 13. August 2014 07:36
To: Maven Users List
Subject: Testing Maven 3.2.3

Hi,

We have staged Maven 3.2.3 and I'd ask that users try and test this version 
because we have changed to using the HTTPS connection to Maven Central by 
default. The information for the release can be found below. I encourage users 
to give this release a spin before we actually release it to ensure the HTTPS 
connection is working for everyone.

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Jason van Zyl 
> Subject: [VOTE] Maven 3.2.3 Release
> Date: August 11, 2014 at 2:19:34 PM PDT
> To: Maven Developers List 
> Reply-To: "Maven Developers List" 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Time to release Maven 3.2.3!
> 
> This release contains the important change of switching to HTTPS transport by 
> default! Please test this release with your builds!
> 
> Here is a link to Jira with 9 issues resolved:
> https://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10500&version=20443
> 
> Staging repo:
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-1046/
> 
> The distributable binaries and sources for testing can be found here:
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-1046/org/apache/maven/apache-maven/3.2.3/
> 
> Specifically the zip, tarball, and source archives can be found here:
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-1046/org/apache/maven/apache-maven/3.2.3/apache-maven-3.2.3-bin.zip
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-1046/org/apache/maven/apache-maven/3.2.3/apache-maven-3.2.3-bin.tar.gz
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-1046/org/apache/maven/apache-maven/3.2.3/apache-maven-3.2.3-src.zip
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-1046/org/apache/maven/apache-maven/3.2.3/apache-maven-3.2.3-src.tar.gz
> 
> Source release checksum(s):
> apache-maven-3.2.3-src.zip sha1: 8607b9922d21078133f31ed8523ebae90a871d1f
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> Staging site:
> http://people.apache.org/~jvanzyl/maven-3.2.3/
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> Vote open for 72 hours.
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> Thanks,
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> The Maven Team
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Thanks,

Jason

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Jason van Zyl
Founder,  Apache Maven
http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
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