AW: OSGi compatible dependencies

2009-08-19 Thread Lewis, Eric
Hi

I know just a little bit about OSGi  :-)

About 1)
This isn't possible, since the OSGi Manifest states what packages are visible 
for the user of the JAR. You can't automate that, it has to be planned by the 
authors.

On the other hand, a lot of Apache Commons projects already build OSGi 
compliant JARs, and still SpringSource has their own versions of them...

Best regards,
Eric 

 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: Julien HENRY [mailto:henr...@yahoo.fr] 
 Gesendet: Mittwoch, 19. August 2009 09:48
 An: users@maven.apache.org
 Betreff: OSGi compatible dependencies
 
 Hi,
 
 Foreword: I hadly know anything about OSGi.
 
 I recently discovered that Springsource is maintaining a 
 parallel set of common dependencies in their own repository 
 using modified artifactId.
 For example:
 
 dependency
 groupIdorg.junit/groupId
 artifactIdcom.springsource.org.junit/artifactId
 version4.5.0/version
 scopetest/scope
 /dependency
 
 As I said I'm not using OSGi but I was testing the Roo tool. 
 To make it short Roo generate a Maven2 application and the 
 pom.xml was full of this kind of dependencies. It was very 
 annoying to me because even if I had all these dependencies 
 already in my local repository, I had to download them again. 
 
 After asking the reason of duplicating artifacts, someone 
 explained to me [1] that these artifact are slighly modified 
 to be OSGi compliant (AFAIK it means adding some standard 
 properties in the manifest, correct me if I am wrong).
 
 Again I'm not an OSGi aware developer, but I'm very concerned 
 by avoiding duplicate artifacts. Duplicating artifact will 
 lead to confusion for developpers, it will increase size of 
 both local and managed repositories,  Sometimes there are 
 good reason to duplicate, but for me this is not a good 
 reason because AFAIK an OSGi compliant JAR can work in a 
 regular application. 
 
 I'm not blaming Spring guys for what they did, as this was 
 certainly the only quick way to have it working with full 
 control. But IMHO it would be better to think of a standard 
 way to provide OSGi compliant JARs, especially because I 
 heard Maven 3 will address this area.
 
 Some proposal :
 1) Make all future JAR uploaded to Central OSGi compliant (is 
 it possible to automatically enhance the MANIFEST?) = 
 simplest/transparent solution for end users
 2) OSGi compliant JARs use a separate classifier (we can have 
 the regular junit-XX.jar and junit-XX-osgi.jar) = this 
 solution can be used for all existing artifacts that can't be 
 modified on central.
 
 What do you think?
 
 Regards,
 
 Julien
 
 
 [1] http://forum.springsource.org/showthread.php?p=255777
 
 
 
   
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AW: OSGi compatible dependencies

2009-08-19 Thread Lewis, Eric
Yes, but in an OSGi environment it makes it pretty much useless, I think.
Having every package public would be the quick'n'dirty solution, but IMHO the 
better solution would be the real separation of API and Implementation in the 
JAR by the authors. Of course, this takes time and effort...

Best regards,
Eric

 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: Barrie Treloar [mailto:baerr...@gmail.com] 
 Gesendet: Mittwoch, 19. August 2009 10:15
 An: Maven Users List
 Betreff: Re: OSGi compatible dependencies
 
 On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Lewis, Ericeric.le...@ipi.ch wrote:
  Hi
 
  I know just a little bit about OSGi  :-)
 
  About 1)
  This isn't possible, since the OSGi Manifest states what 
 packages are visible for the user of the JAR. You can't 
 automate that, it has to be planned by the authors.
 
 I think I've posted about this before but not really given it 
 enough thought.
 
 I still can't see why if it is not OSGi compliant that the default
 position it to make the entire jar packages visible.
 Since that's what is happening in an non-OSGi environment anyway.
 
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