Re: Maven 2.0 question
Hi, Marmalade is hosted at http://marmalade.codehaus.org. You should find CVS information as well as a link to recent source drops at that site. I named it marmalade so people would get the relationship to jelly, without thinking it was the next logical iteration of jelly. This is a clean implementation, with a fresh approach to the problem domain of XML languages. As for the rest of Jason's message regarding current Jelly taglib functionality, I should be a bit more modest. I've currently implemented the Jelly-core library, and have a compatibility layer that I've tested against core, define and a couple of others. This compat-layer is really a way of running jelly inside of marmalade as a stop-gap until we get full native reimplementations of Jelly taglibs finished. Anyway, feel free to ask me any other questions you have about Marmalade (I'm the project lead), but you may want to relocate the thread to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (see the project website for subscription information). HTH, John Casey Colin Chalmers wrote: Jelly, Marmalade hhmm what's next Jam I guess :-)) Any info on Mamalade? I can't seem to find any, with google. Colin Jason van Zyl wrote: On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 14:47, STRAYER, JON (SBCSI) wrote: Is Jelly still the scripting language for Maven 2.0? The short answer is no. The long answer is that there will be several options for scripting plugins: the XML scripting option is something called Marmalade which is something like Jelly except it actually works and doesn't result in the operator pulling out his own teeth trying to get it work. Jelly is a guaragantuan piece of crap and I made the dire mistake of incorporating it into Maven which I will always regret. Marmalade is written by John Casey who has been long involved in Maven, he's heavily involved in Maven 2.x and is committed to the long-term maintenance of Marmalade. He's got all the core Jelly tag libs working as well. Some other options are Beanshell, Janino and possibly JRuby. Don't even ask about Groovy because I wouldn't touch it with a 10' pole. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Maven 2.0 question
And for what it's worth, Jelly is and will continue to be maintained separately from Maven. On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 00:03:54 -0400, John Casey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Marmalade is hosted at http://marmalade.codehaus.org. You should find CVS information as well as a link to recent source drops at that site. I named it marmalade so people would get the relationship to jelly, without thinking it was the next logical iteration of jelly. This is a clean implementation, with a fresh approach to the problem domain of XML languages. As for the rest of Jason's message regarding current Jelly taglib functionality, I should be a bit more modest. I've currently implemented the Jelly-core library, and have a compatibility layer that I've tested against core, define and a couple of others. This compat-layer is really a way of running jelly inside of marmalade as a stop-gap until we get full native reimplementations of Jelly taglibs finished. Anyway, feel free to ask me any other questions you have about Marmalade (I'm the project lead), but you may want to relocate the thread to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (see the project website for subscription information). HTH, John Casey Colin Chalmers wrote: Jelly, Marmalade hhmm what's next Jam I guess :-)) Any info on Mamalade? I can't seem to find any, with google. Colin Jason van Zyl wrote: On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 14:47, STRAYER, JON (SBCSI) wrote: Is Jelly still the scripting language for Maven 2.0? The short answer is no. The long answer is that there will be several options for scripting plugins: the XML scripting option is something called Marmalade which is something like Jelly except it actually works and doesn't result in the operator pulling out his own teeth trying to get it work. Jelly is a guaragantuan piece of crap and I made the dire mistake of incorporating it into Maven which I will always regret. Marmalade is written by John Casey who has been long involved in Maven, he's heavily involved in Maven 2.x and is committed to the long-term maintenance of Marmalade. He's got all the core Jelly tag libs working as well. Some other options are Beanshell, Janino and possibly JRuby. Don't even ask about Groovy because I wouldn't touch it with a 10' pole. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.multitask.com.au/people/dion/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Maven 2.0 question
is there a roadmap for the 2.0 work? features, objectives etc. not after anything detailed, just an outline of where things are heading. I'm giving a presentation to the HK Jug on Maven and I'd like to include a section on 2.0 thanks Nathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a planned release date for Maven 2.0? Regards, Earl Hokens 312-322-4173 (desk) 312-404-2718 (mobile) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/07/2004 02:52 PM Please respond to Maven Users List To: Maven Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Maven 2.0 question On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 14:47, STRAYER, JON (SBCSI) wrote: Is Jelly still the scripting language for Maven 2.0? The short answer is no. The long answer is that there will be several options for scripting plugins: the XML scripting option is something called Marmalade which is something like Jelly except it actually works and doesn't result in the operator pulling out his own teeth trying to get it work. Jelly is a guaragantuan piece of crap and I made the dire mistake of incorporating it into Maven which I will always regret. Marmalade is written by John Casey who has been long involved in Maven, he's heavily involved in Maven 2.x and is committed to the long-term maintenance of Marmalade. He's got all the core Jelly tag libs working as well. Some other options are Beanshell, Janino and possibly JRuby. Don't even ask about Groovy because I wouldn't touch it with a 10' pole. -- Nathan Coast Managing Director codeczar ltd mobile: (852) 9049 5581 email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] web:http://www.codeczar.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Maven 2.0 question
Is Jelly still the scripting language for Maven 2.0? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Maven 2.0 question
On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 14:47, STRAYER, JON (SBCSI) wrote: Is Jelly still the scripting language for Maven 2.0? The short answer is no. The long answer is that there will be several options for scripting plugins: the XML scripting option is something called Marmalade which is something like Jelly except it actually works and doesn't result in the operator pulling out his own teeth trying to get it work. Jelly is a guaragantuan piece of crap and I made the dire mistake of incorporating it into Maven which I will always regret. Marmalade is written by John Casey who has been long involved in Maven, he's heavily involved in Maven 2.x and is committed to the long-term maintenance of Marmalade. He's got all the core Jelly tag libs working as well. Some other options are Beanshell, Janino and possibly JRuby. Don't even ask about Groovy because I wouldn't touch it with a 10' pole. -- jvz. Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://maven.apache.org happiness is like a butterfly: the more you chase it, the more it will elude you, but if you turn your attention to other things, it will come and sit softly on your shoulder ... -- Thoreau - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Maven 2.0 question
Is there a planned release date for Maven 2.0? Regards, Earl Hokens 312-322-4173 (desk) 312-404-2718 (mobile) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/07/2004 02:52 PM Please respond to Maven Users List To: Maven Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Maven 2.0 question On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 14:47, STRAYER, JON (SBCSI) wrote: Is Jelly still the scripting language for Maven 2.0? The short answer is no. The long answer is that there will be several options for scripting plugins: the XML scripting option is something called Marmalade which is something like Jelly except it actually works and doesn't result in the operator pulling out his own teeth trying to get it work. Jelly is a guaragantuan piece of crap and I made the dire mistake of incorporating it into Maven which I will always regret. Marmalade is written by John Casey who has been long involved in Maven, he's heavily involved in Maven 2.x and is committed to the long-term maintenance of Marmalade. He's got all the core Jelly tag libs working as well. Some other options are Beanshell, Janino and possibly JRuby. Don't even ask about Groovy because I wouldn't touch it with a 10' pole. -- jvz. Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://maven.apache.org happiness is like a butterfly: the more you chase it, the more it will elude you, but if you turn your attention to other things, it will come and sit softly on your shoulder ... -- Thoreau - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Maven 2.0 question
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Maven Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 10:37 PM Subject: Re: Maven 2.0 question Is there a planned release date for Maven 2.0? No precise date. The next year. Regards, Earl Hokens 312-322-4173 (desk) 312-404-2718 (mobile) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/07/2004 02:52 PM Please respond to Maven Users List To: Maven Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Maven 2.0 question On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 14:47, STRAYER, JON (SBCSI) wrote: Is Jelly still the scripting language for Maven 2.0? The short answer is no. The long answer is that there will be several options for scripting plugins: the XML scripting option is something called Marmalade which is something like Jelly except it actually works and doesn't result in the operator pulling out his own teeth trying to get it work. Jelly is a guaragantuan piece of crap and I made the dire mistake of incorporating it into Maven which I will always regret. Marmalade is written by John Casey who has been long involved in Maven, he's heavily involved in Maven 2.x and is committed to the long-term maintenance of Marmalade. He's got all the core Jelly tag libs working as well. Some other options are Beanshell, Janino and possibly JRuby. Don't even ask about Groovy because I wouldn't touch it with a 10' pole. -- jvz. Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://maven.apache.org happiness is like a butterfly: the more you chase it, the more it will elude you, but if you turn your attention to other things, it will come and sit softly on your shoulder ... -- Thoreau - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Maven 2.0 question
So I gotta ask.. What's so bad about Groovy? :-) I'd really like to know what makes it unsuitable for your use. And, I've never used any of the options you describe except the beanshell. Thanks, --Leif Some other options are Beanshell, Janino and possibly JRuby. Don't even ask about Groovy because I wouldn't touch it with a 10' pole. -- jvz. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Maven 2.0 question
On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 16:50, Leif Nelson wrote: So I gotta ask.. What's so bad about Groovy? :-) I'm not going to answer that question in a public forum. -- jvz. Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://maven.apache.org happiness is like a butterfly: the more you chase it, the more it will elude you, but if you turn your attention to other things, it will come and sit softly on your shoulder ... -- Thoreau - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
