Re: [ovirt-users] Turn on "Nested Virtualization" on the "hosted-engine"

[Michal Skrivanek]

> On 29 Dec 2017, at 09:16, Roman Drovalev  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the answers.
> 
> 
> How to specify the parameter data for oVirt VM?
> 
> +vmx
> > https://ladipro.wordpress.com/2017/02/24/running-hyperv-in-kvm-guest/

that’s what the nested-vt hook does
again, with the current kernel it’s unlikely to work.
You can try Fedora, though we do not support running it for anything but 
development.

> 
> 
> 27.12.2017 15:16, Michal Skrivanek пишет:
>> 
>> 
>>> On 27 Dec 2017, at 13:06, Martin Sivak  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> it might be a good idea to install vdsm-hooks-nestedvt and
>>> vdsm-hook-macspoof on the host as described for example here:
>>> https://community.redhat.com/blog/2013/08/testing-ovirt-3-3-with-nested-kvm/
>>> 
>>> Those two hooks will configure the kvm module properly and allow
>>> dhcp/pxe to be used from within the nested VM.
>> 
>> Yes. Though it’s likely not going to work out of the box anyway due to older 
>> kernel.
>> See a guide from Ladi[1], there was also a presentation about nested hyper-v 
>> on KVMForum 2017 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> michal
>> 
>> [1] https://ladipro.wordpress.com/2017/02/24/running-hyperv-in-kvm-guest/
>> 
>>> 
>>> Best regards
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Martin Sivak
>>> SLA / oVirt
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 9:05 AM, Michal Skrivanek
>>>  wrote:
 
 
 On 25 Dec 2017, at 13:03, Roman Drovalev  wrote:
 
> I'm not sure I understand the layering - hyper-V on oVirt or vice-versa?
 
 the layering: oVirt host -> Hyper-V_VM on oVirt -> VM on Hyper-V_VM
 
 CentOS based on linux kernel. I manual modified linux kernel parametrs.
 
 
 if you modified the kernel parameters already (which you did, as seen in
 screen shot your cmdline does have nested virt param) then there’s nothing
 else to do in the GUI, your host should support nested virtualization.
 I’m not sure why do you need SR-IOV but that’s not going to work on top of
 hyperv
 
 
 oVirt-engine based on oVirt API. How to manually change the parameters of
 ovirt-engine through API?
 
> In any case, I assume an additional host is needed, the host hosting the
> Hosted-Engine VM cannot be changed with those parameters when the HE is 
> up.
> Y.
 
 It's impossible, the second host is now - Hyper-V with working VM's.
 
 25.12.2017 12:19, Yaniv Kaul
 
 
 
 On Mon, Dec 25, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Roman Drovalev 
 wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the quick response.
> 
>> You probably need an additional host.
> 
> I'm migrating from Hyper-V at the moment there is no way to add a second
> host.
> 
> 
> 25.12.2017 10:43, Yaniv Kaul пишет:
>> What are you trying to achieve?
> 
> "Nested Virtualization" . I need run on Hyper-V one VM on the my oVirt
 
 
 I'm not sure I understand the layering - hyper-V on oVirt or vice-versa?
 In any case, I assume an additional host is needed, the host hosting the
 Hosted-Engine VM cannot be changed with those parameters when the HE is up.
 Y.
 
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Re: [ovirt-users] Turn on "Nested Virtualization" on the "hosted-engine"

[Roman Drovalev]

Thanks for the answers.


How to specify the parameter data for oVirt VM?

+vmx

> https://ladipro.wordpress.com/2017/02/24/running-hyperv-in-kvm-guest/





27.12.2017 15:16, Michal Skrivanek пишет:
>
>
>> On 27 Dec 2017, at 13:06, Martin Sivak > > wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> it might be a good idea to install vdsm-hooks-nestedvt and
>> vdsm-hook-macspoof on the host as described for example here:
>> https://community.redhat.com/blog/2013/08/testing-ovirt-3-3-with-nested-kvm/
>>
>> Those two hooks will configure the kvm module properly and allow
>> dhcp/pxe to be used from within the nested VM.
>
> Yes. Though it’s likely not going to work out of the box anyway due to
> older kernel.
> See a guide from Ladi[1], there was also a presentation about nested
> hyper-v on KVMForum 2017 
>
> Thanks,
> michal
>
> [1] https://ladipro.wordpress.com/2017/02/24/running-hyperv-in-kvm-guest/
>
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> --
>> Martin Sivak
>> SLA / oVirt
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 9:05 AM, Michal Skrivanek
>> mailto:michal.skriva...@redhat.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 25 Dec 2017, at 13:03, Roman Drovalev >> > wrote:
>>>
 I'm not sure I understand the layering - hyper-V on oVirt or
 vice-versa?
>>>
>>> the layering: oVirt host -> Hyper-V_VM on oVirt -> VM on Hyper-V_VM
>>>
>>> CentOS based on linux kernel. I manual modified linux kernel parametrs.
>>>
>>>
>>> if you modified the kernel parameters already (which you did, as seen in
>>> screen shot your cmdline does have nested virt param) then there’s
>>> nothing
>>> else to do in the GUI, your host should support nested virtualization.
>>> I’m not sure why do you need SR-IOV but that’s not going to work on
>>> top of
>>> hyperv
>>>
>>>
>>> oVirt-engine based on oVirt API. How to manually change the
>>> parameters of
>>> ovirt-engine through API?
>>>
 In any case, I assume an additional host is needed, the host
 hosting the
 Hosted-Engine VM cannot be changed with those parameters when the
 HE is up.
 Y.
>>>
>>> It's impossible, the second host is now - Hyper-V with working VM's.
>>>
>>> 25.12.2017 12:19, Yaniv Kaul
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 25, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Roman Drovalev
>>> mailto:drova...@miac.kaluga.ru>>
>>> wrote:

 Thanks for the quick response.

> You probably need an additional host.

 I'm migrating from Hyper-V at the moment there is no way to add a
 second
 host.


 25.12.2017 10:43, Yaniv Kaul пишет:
> What are you trying to achieve?

 "Nested Virtualization" . I need run on Hyper-V one VM on the my oVirt
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not sure I understand the layering - hyper-V on oVirt or vice-versa?
>>> In any case, I assume an additional host is needed, the host hosting the
>>> Hosted-Engine VM cannot be changed with those parameters when the HE
>>> is up.
>>> Y.
>>>




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Re: [ovirt-users] Turn on "Nested Virtualization" on the "hosted-engine"

[Michal Skrivanek]

> On 27 Dec 2017, at 13:06, Martin Sivak  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> it might be a good idea to install vdsm-hooks-nestedvt and
> vdsm-hook-macspoof on the host as described for example here:
> https://community.redhat.com/blog/2013/08/testing-ovirt-3-3-with-nested-kvm/
> 
> Those two hooks will configure the kvm module properly and allow
> dhcp/pxe to be used from within the nested VM.

Yes. Though it’s likely not going to work out of the box anyway due to older 
kernel.
See a guide from Ladi[1], there was also a presentation about nested hyper-v on 
KVMForum 2017 

Thanks,
michal

[1] https://ladipro.wordpress.com/2017/02/24/running-hyperv-in-kvm-guest/ 


> 
> Best regards
> 
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> Martin Sivak
> SLA / oVirt
> 
> On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 9:05 AM, Michal Skrivanek
>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On 25 Dec 2017, at 13:03, Roman Drovalev  wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm not sure I understand the layering - hyper-V on oVirt or vice-versa?
>> 
>> the layering: oVirt host -> Hyper-V_VM on oVirt -> VM on Hyper-V_VM
>> 
>> CentOS based on linux kernel. I manual modified linux kernel parametrs.
>> 
>> 
>> if you modified the kernel parameters already (which you did, as seen in
>> screen shot your cmdline does have nested virt param) then there’s nothing
>> else to do in the GUI, your host should support nested virtualization.
>> I’m not sure why do you need SR-IOV but that’s not going to work on top of
>> hyperv
>> 
>> 
>> oVirt-engine based on oVirt API. How to manually change the parameters of
>> ovirt-engine through API?
>> 
>>> In any case, I assume an additional host is needed, the host hosting the
>>> Hosted-Engine VM cannot be changed with those parameters when the HE is up.
>>> Y.
>> 
>> It's impossible, the second host is now - Hyper-V with working VM's.
>> 
>> 25.12.2017 12:19, Yaniv Kaul
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Dec 25, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Roman Drovalev 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the quick response.
>>> 
 You probably need an additional host.
>>> 
>>> I'm migrating from Hyper-V at the moment there is no way to add a second
>>> host.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 25.12.2017 10:43, Yaniv Kaul пишет:
 What are you trying to achieve?
>>> 
>>> "Nested Virtualization" . I need run on Hyper-V one VM on the my oVirt
>> 
>> 
>> I'm not sure I understand the layering - hyper-V on oVirt or vice-versa?
>> In any case, I assume an additional host is needed, the host hosting the
>> Hosted-Engine VM cannot be changed with those parameters when the HE is up.
>> Y.
>> 
>>> 
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Re: [ovirt-users] Turn on "Nested Virtualization" on the "hosted-engine"

[Martin Sivak]

Hi,

it might be a good idea to install vdsm-hooks-nestedvt and
vdsm-hook-macspoof on the host as described for example here:
https://community.redhat.com/blog/2013/08/testing-ovirt-3-3-with-nested-kvm/

Those two hooks will configure the kvm module properly and allow
dhcp/pxe to be used from within the nested VM.

Best regards

--
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SLA / oVirt

On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 9:05 AM, Michal Skrivanek
 wrote:
>
>
> On 25 Dec 2017, at 13:03, Roman Drovalev  wrote:
>
>>I'm not sure I understand the layering - hyper-V on oVirt or vice-versa?
>
> the layering: oVirt host -> Hyper-V_VM on oVirt -> VM on Hyper-V_VM
>
> CentOS based on linux kernel. I manual modified linux kernel parametrs.
>
>
> if you modified the kernel parameters already (which you did, as seen in
> screen shot your cmdline does have nested virt param) then there’s nothing
> else to do in the GUI, your host should support nested virtualization.
> I’m not sure why do you need SR-IOV but that’s not going to work on top of
> hyperv
>
>
> oVirt-engine based on oVirt API. How to manually change the parameters of
> ovirt-engine through API?
>
>>In any case, I assume an additional host is needed, the host hosting the
>> Hosted-Engine VM cannot be changed with those parameters when the HE is up.
>>Y.
>
> It's impossible, the second host is now - Hyper-V with working VM's.
>
> 25.12.2017 12:19, Yaniv Kaul
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 25, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Roman Drovalev 
> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the quick response.
>>
>> >You probably need an additional host.
>>
>> I'm migrating from Hyper-V at the moment there is no way to add a second
>> host.
>>
>>
>> 25.12.2017 10:43, Yaniv Kaul пишет:
>> > What are you trying to achieve?
>>
>> "Nested Virtualization" . I need run on Hyper-V one VM on the my oVirt
>
>
> I'm not sure I understand the layering - hyper-V on oVirt or vice-versa?
> In any case, I assume an additional host is needed, the host hosting the
> Hosted-Engine VM cannot be changed with those parameters when the HE is up.
> Y.
>
>>
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Re: [ovirt-users] Turn on "Nested Virtualization" on the "hosted-engine"

[Michal Skrivanek]

> On 25 Dec 2017, at 13:03, Roman Drovalev  wrote:
> 
> >I'm not sure I understand the layering - hyper-V on oVirt or vice-versa?
> 
> the layering: oVirt host -> Hyper-V_VM on oVirt -> VM on Hyper-V_VM
> 
> CentOS based on linux kernel. I manual modified linux kernel parametrs.

if you modified the kernel parameters already (which you did, as seen in screen 
shot your cmdline does have nested virt param) then there’s nothing else to do 
in the GUI, your host should support nested virtualization.
I’m not sure why do you need SR-IOV but that’s not going to work on top of 
hyperv

> 
> oVirt-engine based on oVirt API. How to manually change the parameters of 
> ovirt-engine through API?
> 
> >In any case, I assume an additional host is needed, the host hosting the 
> >Hosted-Engine VM cannot be changed with those parameters when the HE is up.
> >Y.
> 
> It's impossible, the second host is now - Hyper-V with working VM's.
> 
> 25.12.2017 12:19, Yaniv Kaul
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Dec 25, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Roman Drovalev > > wrote:
>> Thanks for the quick response.
>> 
>> >You probably need an additional host.
>> 
>> I'm migrating from Hyper-V at the moment there is no way to add a second
>> host.
>> 
>> 
>> 25.12.2017 10 :43, Yaniv Kaul пишет:
>> > What are you trying to achieve?
>> 
>> "Nested Virtualization" . I need run on Hyper-V one VM on the my oVirt
>> 
>> I'm not sure I understand the layering - hyper-V on oVirt or vice-versa?
>> In any case, I assume an additional host is needed, the host hosting the 
>> Hosted-Engine VM cannot be changed with those parameters when the HE is up.
>> Y.
>>  
>> 
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Re: [ovirt-users] Turn on "Nested Virtualization" on the "hosted-engine"

[Roman Drovalev]

>I'm not sure I understand the layering - hyper-V on oVirt or vice-versa?

the layering: oVirt host -> Hyper-V_VM on oVirt -> VM on Hyper-V_VM

CentOS based on linux kernel. I manual modified linux kernel parametrs.

oVirt-engine based on oVirt API. How to manually change the parameters
of ovirt-engine through API?

>In any case, I assume an additional host is needed, the host hosting
the Hosted-Engine VM cannot be changed with those parameters when the HE
is up.
>Y.

It's impossible, the second host is now - Hyper-V with working VM's.

25.12.2017 12:19, Yaniv Kaul
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 25, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Roman Drovalev
> mailto:drova...@miac.kaluga.ru>> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the quick response.
>
> >You probably need an additional host.
>
> I'm migrating from Hyper-V at the moment there is no way to add a
> second
> host.
>
>
> 25.12.2017 10 :43, Yaniv Kaul пишет:
> > What are you trying to achieve?
>
> "Nested Virtualization" . I need run on Hyper-V one VM on the my oVirt
>
>
> I'm not sure I understand the layering - hyper-V on oVirt or vice-versa?
> In any case, I assume an additional host is needed, the host hosting
> the Hosted-Engine VM cannot be changed with those parameters when the
> HE is up.
> Y.
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Re: [ovirt-users] Turn on "Nested Virtualization" on the "hosted-engine"

[Yaniv Kaul]

On Mon, Dec 25, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Roman Drovalev 
wrote:

> Thanks for the quick response.
>
> >You probably need an additional host.
>
> I'm migrating from Hyper-V at the moment there is no way to add a second
> host.
>
>
> 25.12.2017 10:43, Yaniv Kaul пишет:
> > What are you trying to achieve?
>
> "Nested Virtualization" . I need run on Hyper-V one VM on the my oVirt
>

I'm not sure I understand the layering - hyper-V on oVirt or vice-versa?
In any case, I assume an additional host is needed, the host hosting the
Hosted-Engine VM cannot be changed with those parameters when the HE is up.
Y.


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Re: [ovirt-users] Turn on "Nested Virtualization" on the "hosted-engine"

[Roman Drovalev]

Thanks for the quick response.

>You probably need an additional host.

I'm migrating from Hyper-V at the moment there is no way to add a second
host.


25.12.2017 10:43, Yaniv Kaul пишет:
> What are you trying to achieve?

"Nested Virtualization" . I need run on Hyper-V one VM on the my oVirt



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