AW: My Backup Script

2011-07-26 Thread Markus Schaber
Hi,

> Von: Andy Canfield [mailto:andy.canfi...@pimco.mobi]
> > And make /backup a separate filesystem, preferably on a different host
> > or some disk storage that runs independently from the host.
> In Linux a separate "filesystem" is often another partition on the hard
> disk, and thus not to be trusted too much. For safety an external hard
> disk, flushed, should be good enough. No need for an entire other host.
> Yes?

Only if the external hard disk is only connected via fibre optics cable (SAS or 
similar) instead of copper cable.

Electrical surges and short-cirquit faults tend to kill the server and the 
attached hard disks at the same time.

Best regards

Markus Schaber

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AW: My Backup Script

2011-07-27 Thread Markus Schaber
Hi, Andreas,

Von: Andreas Krey [mailto:a.k...@gmx.de]
 
> On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 13:55:17 +, Les Mikesell wrote:
> ...
> > How could it possibly be up to date if there has been a commit since
> > the last time it was updated?
> 
> Because the commit came from my WC. My WC was up to date before the
> commit, and the only things that change have been in my WC already, so
> there is no possible way my WC can not be up to date.

That assumption is wrong, I guess. As far as I know, commit hooks can
modify the commit. (This behavior is discouraged, but nevertheless it is
possible.



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Re: AW: My Backup Script

2011-07-26 Thread Andreas Krey
On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 16:11:27 +, Markus Schaber wrote:
...
> > Von: Andy Canfield [mailto:andy.canfi...@pimco.mobi]
...
> > disk, and thus not to be trusted too much. For safety an external hard
> > disk, flushed, should be good enough. No need for an entire other host.
> > Yes?
> 
> Only if the external hard disk is only connected via fibre optics cable (SAS 
> or similar) instead of copper cable.
> 
> Electrical surges and short-cirquit faults tend to kill the server and the 
> attached hard disks at the same time.

Only if the disk is connected to a different power source, otherwise
it doesn't much matter whether it's killed via data cable or power
supply. (Also, this will in most cases only kill the drive electronics;
there is still the possibility to have the driver platter to be installed
into another drive, by professional recovery services.)

But the simplest ist to disconnect the external drive and to use two
or three in cycles (if that hadn't been mentioned here), and take the
others home or another location different from the servers's.

Andreas

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