Re: [DISCUSS] Security Frameworks

2012-10-28 Thread Timo Schmidt
On Thu 18.10.2012 13:18, Carl-Eric Menzel wrote:
>
> [X] I use Shiro
> 
> We use Shiro on our project (using wicketstuff's shiro integration and
> our own custom Shiro realm implementation). We use it because it gives
> us a permission-based approach (not just roles-based) and is more
> easily configured than e.g. SWARM/WASP. I also quite like the
> hierarchical approach to permissions that Shiro allows.
 
That are exactly the reasons, why I have chosen Shiro as well.

  -Timo

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Re: [DISCUSS] Security Frameworks

2012-10-22 Thread Leonardo D'Alimonte
[x] I use WASP/Swarm

Since we started our project we adopted Swarm as our security framework and
for several reasons we didn't scout other possibilities to secure our pages.
By the way our experience with Swarm is pretty good, we don't need any
changes in our dependencies...




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Re: [DISCUSS] Security Frameworks

2012-10-22 Thread Erik van Oosten


[ X ] I use my own custom framework
[ X ] I use Shiro
 

For my current Wicket project we started out with Shiro as it promised 
to be easy to use. However, even though Shiro is feature rich, it still 
lacks the feature we needed to make it secure (1) and stable (2). We 
ended up using Shiro as a convenient library with all integration points 
with Wicket written ourselves. We also needed to extend LDAP integration 
to get roles/permissions and override Shiro's idea of configuration (it 
didn't match our way of getting properties files).


(1) forget an annotation and your page is visible, we turned that around
(2) the annotations are based on Strings, we like Enums better

Kind regards,
Erik.


On 18-10-12 06:08, Jeremy Thomerson wrote:

Our of curiosity: among the wider community: what security framework(s) do
you use with with Wicket, and why?

[  ] I use my own custom framework
[  ] I use Shiro
[  ] I use Spring Security
[  ] I use WASP/Swarm
[  ] Other (please specify)

And don't forget the "why".




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RE: [DISCUSS] Security Frameworks

2012-10-18 Thread Chris Colman
[  ] I use my own custom framework

We rolled our own too because we needed multi-tenant support "on
steroids" for our enterprise content management system.

Eg, A group called "admin" can not give administer rights to all
organizations in the system - only one specific organization.

In other words each role has an organization context which eliminates
most 
of the off the shelf security solutions. 

The ones that do support this (and I'm not aware of any) would likely
not support the other part of our requirements: the "on steroids" part
where we have hierarchies of groups/roles so that we can have natural,
organic configuration via classic OO inheritance. It maybe hard to
understand and implement but it's extremely powerful and makes
configuration extremely easy.

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Re: [DISCUSS] Security Frameworks

2012-10-18 Thread Sebastien
[x] I use my own custom framework

We needed to have a group-based authentication: a relation between a
secured-item (a bean, linked to a DB item) and some allowed-groups for that
item.
But the relation itself is quite complex to establish (because Items are in
a graph), so we decided to implement our own authorization mechanism (but
to be honest, we did not really looked to existing 3rd parties...).

I a few word: The Authentication is made trough a JAAS login module which
gets GroupPrincipal(s) for the current user.
We have implemented an IGroupCheckingStrategy, similar to
IRoleCheckingStrategy, then we bound a custom IAuthorizationStrategy to the
application, in charge to check whether the item being displayed (in an
edit page for instance) has a group that also belongs to the user.

Sebastien.

On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Nick Pratt  wrote:

> [X] I use my own custom framework
>
> We rolled our own because it gave us the most flexibility (components are
> annotated and the permissions are kept separate from users and
> groups/roles).  We can reconfigure the permissions on the fly (since
> everything is stored in the DB, cached in mem) and plug in different
> authentication and authorization strategies to facilitate different
> deployment scenarios and also for unit testing.
>
> We're not aware of a 3rd party lib that will do this - but Id be happy to
> use one if there is one out there.
>
> N
>
> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 12:08 AM, Jeremy Thomerson <
> jer...@wickettraining.com> wrote:
>
> > Our of curiosity: among the wider community: what security framework(s)
> do
> > you use with with Wicket, and why?
> >
> > [  ] I use my own custom framework
> > [  ] I use Shiro
> > [  ] I use Spring Security
> > [  ] I use WASP/Swarm
> > [  ] Other (please specify)
> >
> > And don't forget the "why".
> >
> > --
> > Jeremy Thomerson
> > http://wickettraining.com
> >
>


Re: [DISCUSS] Security Frameworks

2012-10-18 Thread Jesse Long
We use an in house designed system very similar to Shiro. The security 
framework only works on permissions (not roles), but the permissions 
that a user has depends on the roles they belong to (implementation 
detail the framework does not care about).


It also does not allow Shiro style string permissions, only a class 
hierarchy extending Permission.


Why? Because its a lot easier with only permissions, and only class 
hierarchy for permissions.


On 18/10/2012 06:08, Jeremy Thomerson wrote:

Our of curiosity: among the wider community: what security framework(s) do
you use with with Wicket, and why?

[  ] I use my own custom framework
[  ] I use Shiro
[  ] I use Spring Security
[  ] I use WASP/Swarm
[  ] Other (please specify)

And don't forget the "why".




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Re: [DISCUSS] Security Frameworks

2012-10-18 Thread Nick Pratt
[X] I use my own custom framework

We rolled our own because it gave us the most flexibility (components are
annotated and the permissions are kept separate from users and
groups/roles).  We can reconfigure the permissions on the fly (since
everything is stored in the DB, cached in mem) and plug in different
authentication and authorization strategies to facilitate different
deployment scenarios and also for unit testing.

We're not aware of a 3rd party lib that will do this - but Id be happy to
use one if there is one out there.

N

On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 12:08 AM, Jeremy Thomerson <
jer...@wickettraining.com> wrote:

> Our of curiosity: among the wider community: what security framework(s) do
> you use with with Wicket, and why?
>
> [  ] I use my own custom framework
> [  ] I use Shiro
> [  ] I use Spring Security
> [  ] I use WASP/Swarm
> [  ] Other (please specify)
>
> And don't forget the "why".
>
> --
> Jeremy Thomerson
> http://wickettraining.com
>


Re: [DISCUSS] Security Frameworks

2012-10-18 Thread Carl-Eric Menzel
[X] I use Shiro

We use Shiro on our project (using wicketstuff's shiro integration and
our own custom Shiro realm implementation). We use it because it gives
us a permission-based approach (not just roles-based) and is more
easily configured than e.g. SWARM/WASP. I also quite like the
hierarchical approach to permissions that Shiro allows.

Carl-Eric

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Re: [DISCUSS] Security Frameworks

2012-10-18 Thread Pointbreak
[X] I use Shiro

Because it's simple in use and simple to integrate with Wicket or other
frameworks, but still powerful enough for most security related tasks.
And because I liked it more than Spring Security three years or so ago.
I think Spring Security is more feature complete out of the box though.

On Thu, Oct 18, 2012, at 06:08, Jeremy Thomerson wrote:
> Our of curiosity: among the wider community: what security framework(s)
> do
> you use with with Wicket, and why?
> 
> [  ] I use my own custom framework
> [  ] I use Shiro
> [  ] I use Spring Security
> [  ] I use WASP/Swarm
> [  ] Other (please specify)
> 
> And don't forget the "why".
> 
> -- 
> Jeremy Thomerson
> http://wickettraining.com

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