Should I really go for LoadableDetachableModel ?

2012-08-19 Thread kshitiz
Hi,

Please help me out here. In my web app, I have to show a list of data.
Previously I was using simple arraylist in listview. To deal with any memory
concern in future, I moved from arraylist to loadabledetachablemodal list.
But now, in any operation like delete, update etc, whole list is being
uploaded from database which is a bit time consuming. I know this is pretty
obvious. So, its like i have to compromise on one issue. So what should I
do? For highly traffic websites, is ldm necessary?



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Re: Should I really go for LoadableDetachableModel ?

2012-08-19 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Probably better to use a DataView with a dataprovider for populating
the list. The dataprovider has a way to create a model for each item.
In that you can use a LDM for just populating one item. The dataview
will only populate the dataprovider for rendering. For actions the
individual LDM will be used.

Martijn

On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 9:57 AM, kshitiz k.agarw...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 Please help me out here. In my web app, I have to show a list of data.
 Previously I was using simple arraylist in listview. To deal with any memory
 concern in future, I moved from arraylist to loadabledetachablemodal list.
 But now, in any operation like delete, update etc, whole list is being
 uploaded from database which is a bit time consuming. I know this is pretty
 obvious. So, its like i have to compromise on one issue. So what should I
 do? For highly traffic websites, is ldm necessary?



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Re: Should I really go for LoadableDetachableModel ?

2012-08-19 Thread kshitiz
Hi,

Thanks for the reply. I am trying t achieve what you suggested me. But one
thing I want to ask. In listDataProvider, you will anyway provide list of
data to get rendered. You may render it in any manner but that list will be
stored as final or class variable. Wont that take up the session ? I mean
what difference will it make to use dataview instead of simple list with
listview in terms of memory? I am trying to understand its concept so please
ignore my mistake...:)



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Re: Should I really go for LoadableDetachableModel ?

2012-08-19 Thread Martin Sachs

Hi,

yes the listDataProvider doesnt help for minimize memory usage. The 
DataProvider will be stored in Component and therefore all fields are 
also stored in component/session. For e.g. 2000 Session you have 2000 
times the same list in memory. This is not what you want.
First optimization: Cache the list in one list (static or 
cacheprovider), that only one session is referenced in all dataprovider.
Later optimization: dont hold a reference to the list und load the list 
on every request in dataprovider but with limiting the e.g. SQL-Query to 
the (first, count) Range given in DataProvider.
The list and items will be detached on end of request (which means 
removed from memory)

SQL-Query caching is also recommended.
MySql supports this by limit .

Note: Hibernate and JDO supports rangequeries DB independent.

Every Request will be in Young-Gen Memory and shortly removed after 
requests ends.

You have full controll what will stored in memory(Caches)

cya
   Martin

kshitiz schrieb:

Hi,

Thanks for the reply. I am trying t achieve what you suggested me. But one
thing I want to ask. In listDataProvider, you will anyway provide list of
data to get rendered. You may render it in any manner but that list will be
stored as final or class variable. Wont that take up the session ? I mean
what difference will it make to use dataview instead of simple list with
listview in terms of memory? I am trying to understand its concept so please
ignore my mistake...:)



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Re: Should I really go for LoadableDetachableModel ?

2012-08-19 Thread kshitiz
Hi,

Thank you for clarifying me. Removing the reference can help me out. Let me
try it :)



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