Re: [vdr] [ANNOUNCE] VDR developer version 1.7.3

2009-01-08 Thread Frank Schmirler
On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 16:06:02 +0100, Klaus Schmidinger wrote
 Instead of Priority and Lifetime, the directory name now contains the   
 channel number from which the recording was made, and the resume 
 id of this instance of VDR. This avoids problems if several VDR 
 instances record the same show on different channels, or even on 
 the same channel.

I'd opt for a dedicated VDR instance parameter instead of using the resume
ID. In my understanding the resume ID corresponds to the actual user watching,
hence the resume ID is subject to change. At least that's how I use it in the
remotetimers-plugin.

Regards,
Frank

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Re: [vdr] S2-3200 vdr needed material ?

2009-01-08 Thread Goga777
 Could some pse tell me what kind of patch and v4l drivers i should use 
 to run vdr-1.7.x in HD mode ?

you have to install http://mercurial.intuxication.org/hg/s2-liplianin

vdr 170

and 2 patches 

http://www.linuxtv.org/pipermail/vdr/attachments/20080413/1054bcfb/attachment-0001.bin
vdr-1.7.0-h264-syncearly-framespersec-audioindexer-fielddetection-speedup.diff.bz2

http://www.linuxtv.org/pipermail/vdr/attachments/20081007/edcd3fcc/attachment-0001.obj
vdr-1.7.0-s2api-07102008-h264-clean.patch.gz


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[vdr] WinTV USB CI-Module and recommended distribution for VDR?

2009-01-08 Thread Sascha Vogt
Hi all,

as my hardware is shipping (went for the ASUS M2N78Pro, GeForce 8300
with an Athlon X2 4850e, hopefully that'll work with VDPAU and HD
videos), it's now time to choose a DVB-S/2 card.

I consider the TT 3200 and with a slight preference the Haupauge
HVR-4000 (drivers in the kernel since 2.6.28 seems a bit more
comfortable). The only point I'm unsure about is the Haupauge WinTV
CI-module USB. Does anyone know about its linux compatibility?

Or do you recommend the TT 3200 if I need an CI module?

And the second question is about the preferred distribution to use VDR
with. Are there any distributions optimized for VDR and fast boot times?
(Yes I know [1], but that didn't help me with choosing one optimized for
short boot times.) LinVDR seemed to be such, but the last version is now
4 years old. I personally have experiences with Gentoo and Debian, so
that would be my choices if no one has a better option worth trying.

Greetings
-Sascha-

[1]http://www.vdr-wiki.de/wiki/index.php/%C3%9Cbersicht_Software#Distributionen

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Re: [vdr] WinTV USB CI-Module and recommended distribution for VDR?

2009-01-08 Thread Nicolas Huillard
Sascha Vogt a écrit :
 And the second question is about the preferred distribution to use VDR
 with. Are there any distributions optimized for VDR and fast boot times?
 (Yes I know [1], but that didn't help me with choosing one optimized for
 short boot times.) LinVDR seemed to be such, but the last version is now
 4 years old. I personally have experiences with Gentoo and Debian, so
 that would be my choices if no one has a better option worth trying.

I started with a bare-minimum Debian/e-tobi install (with debootstrap on 
an NFS share, which gives a really light bootable system), then 
installed whatever needed, but nothing fancy (ie. X with a tiny WM, but 
no login manager, ACPI, no dbus, etc...).
Boot time is not spectacular, but OK. Next step, as others did, will be 
to suspend to RAM instead of shuting down, which means boot time will 
become irrelevant...
Install size is 724MB, with full docs (à la Debian), stock kernel, 
modules and initrd, some VDR plugins, etc. (including 187MB of useless 
cached packages).
That's work, but at least everything came in binary...

-- 
NH

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Re: [vdr] S2-3200 vdr needed material ?

2009-01-08 Thread Mika Laitio
 Q to all : The software output plugins had problems with 1.7.1 and 1.7.2 (
 and perhaps 1.7.3?). Can anybody confirm that this problem still exists?
 Because the reason why I don't upgrade to newer editions, is because newer
 versions had problems with the vdr-xine and vdr-xineliboutput plugins.

Seems still to have. At least xineliboutput-1.0.3 builded but failed to 
work with 1.7.3. (vdr-sxfe outputs lot of error messages when running).
I did not test the cvs version but at least that also failed with 
vdr-1.7.2.

latest streamdev from CVS failed to build again 1.7.3 (builded ok with 
1.7.2 and could be used for showing data once if I just had first tuned 
to some channel with szap/szap-2 before launching vdr-1.7.2. This is 
probably a hvr-4000 S2API driver bug)

Mika

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Re: [vdr] WinTV USB CI-Module and recommended distribution for VDR?

2009-01-08 Thread Sascha Vogt
Hi,

Nicolas Huillard schrieb:
 Sascha Vogt a écrit :
 And the second question is about the preferred distribution to use VDR
 with. Are there any distributions optimized for VDR and fast boot times?
 I started with a bare-minimum Debian/e-tobi install (with debootstrap on 
 an NFS share, which gives a really light bootable system), then 
 installed whatever needed, but nothing fancy (ie. X with a tiny WM, but 
 no login manager, ACPI, no dbus, etc...).
 Boot time is not spectacular, but OK. [...]

Can you provide any figures? 30 seconds, 50 seconds, 90 seconds? To get
at least a rough idea.

Greetings
-Sascha-

PS: Suspend to Ram can be a good alternative, that's true. Hopefully
that'll be working on that ASUS board...

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Re: [vdr] S2-3200 vdr needed material ?

2009-01-08 Thread Frank Schmirler
On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 18:04:05 +0200 (EET), Mika Laitio wrote
 latest streamdev from CVS failed to build again 1.7.3

In the bugtracker you'll find a patch which makes streamdev compile again. It
 comments out the PES output stuff which causes the problems until a clean
solution is available.

http://www.vdr-developer.org/mantisbt/view.php?id=506

Regards,
Frank

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Re: [vdr] WinTV USB CI-Module and recommended distribution for VDR?

2009-01-08 Thread Nicolas Huillard
Sascha Vogt a écrit :
 Nicolas Huillard schrieb:
 Sascha Vogt a écrit :
 And the second question is about the preferred distribution to use VDR
 with. Are there any distributions optimized for VDR and fast boot times?
 I started with a bare-minimum Debian/e-tobi install (with debootstrap on 
 an NFS share, which gives a really light bootable system), then 
 installed whatever needed, but nothing fancy (ie. X with a tiny WM, but 
 no login manager, ACPI, no dbus, etc...).
 Boot time is not spectacular, but OK. [...]
 
 Can you provide any figures? 30 seconds, 50 seconds, 90 seconds? To get
 at least a rough idea.

30s on an Athlon XP 1.8GHz
roughly 45s on a C3 600MHz

Simply recompiling the kernel, removing unneeded modules and initrd, 
could reduce by 5-10s...

-- 
NH

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Re: [vdr] WinTV USB CI-Module and recommended distribution for VDR?

2009-01-08 Thread Lauri Tischler
Sascha Vogt wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 as my hardware is shipping (went for the ASUS M2N78Pro, GeForce 8300
 with an Athlon X2 4850e, hopefully that'll work with VDPAU and HD
 videos)

Couldn't find M2N78Pro, do you mean M3N78PRO ?

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Re: [vdr] S2-3200 vdr needed material ?

2009-01-08 Thread Artem Makhutov
Hello,

On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 06:04:05PM +0200, Mika Laitio wrote:
  Q to all : The software output plugins had problems with 1.7.1 and 1.7.2 (
  and perhaps 1.7.3?). Can anybody confirm that this problem still exists?
  Because the reason why I don't upgrade to newer editions, is because newer
  versions had problems with the vdr-xine and vdr-xineliboutput plugins.
 
 Seems still to have. At least xineliboutput-1.0.3 builded but failed to 
 work with 1.7.3. (vdr-sxfe outputs lot of error messages when running).
 I did not test the cvs version but at least that also failed with 
 vdr-1.7.2.

Have you tried to compile vdr with the livebuffer patch?
This makes xineliboutput work with VDR (at least 1.7.1).

Regards, Artem

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[vdr] S2-3200 vdr needed material ?

2009-01-08 Thread lucian orasanu
Hy all,

But I must contradict you all, I use vdr-1.7.2 with v4l-dvb from linuxtv.org 
but with patches from Alex, for stb8900 search algo on an sky star hd aka 
tt-3200. with vdr-xine-0.8.2 wit curent xine-lib-1.2 and ffmpeg, and it is 
working perfectly on gentoo linux.


  

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Re: [vdr] [ANNOUNCE] VDR developer version 1.7.3

2009-01-08 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 08.01.2009 18:50, user.vdr wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 7:06 AM, Klaus Schmidinger
 klaus.schmidin...@cadsoft.de wrote:
  + The directory name for a recording has been changed from
-MM-DD-hh[.:]mm.pr.lt.rec (pr=priority, lt=lifetime) to
-MM-DD-hh.mm.ch-ri.rec (ch=channel, ri=resumeId).
 
 Is the channel number even necessary information to store in a
 dirname?  I've experienced many times where channels have been
 shuffled (requiring a rescanning  a new channels.conf)
 so channel 100 could be one network today and a different one
 tomorrow.  Maybe a better choice would be using the channel shortname,
 for example:
 
 -MM-DD-hh.mm.CNN-ri.rec
 -MM-DD-hh.mm.BBC-ri.rec

The channel number would be unnecessary, because that information
is stored in the 'info' file. However, it is contained in the
recording's directory name, so that in case two timers of the same VDR
instance record the exact same programme, but on different channels,
they don't mix their data into one big pile of goo (which could have
happenend in VDR 1= 1.7.2). No need to make this a string - it's just
a safety precaution (besides, two channels might have the *same* name,
but never the same number).

Klaus

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Re: [vdr] [ANNOUNCE] VDR developer version 1.7.3

2009-01-08 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 08.01.2009 20:41, Alex Betis wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 7:50 PM, user. vdr user@gmail.com
 mailto:user@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 7:06 AM, Klaus Schmidinger
 klaus.schmidin...@cadsoft.de mailto:klaus.schmidin...@cadsoft.de
 wrote:
   + The directory name for a recording has been changed from
 -MM-DD-hh[.:]mm.pr.lt.rec (pr=priority, lt=lifetime) to
 -MM-DD-hh.mm.ch-ri.rec (ch=channel, ri=resumeId).
 
 Is the channel number even necessary information to store in a
 dirname?  I've experienced many times where channels have been
 shuffled (requiring a rescanning  a new channels.conf)
 so channel 100 could be one network today and a different one
 tomorrow.  Maybe a better choice would be using the channel shortname,
 for example:
 
 -MM-DD-hh.mm.CNN-ri.rec
 -MM-DD-hh.mm.BBC-ri.rec
 
 
 I don't know how VDR work, but I think it will be wise to have a file
 with the same filename and .info or even .epg extension that will
 have relevant EPG section for the recorded program including full
 channel name.

That's all already contained in the 'info' file of a recording.

 If the recording timer was set manualy, maybe it should include all
 programs that lay between start and end of the recording.

It stores the EPG data of the longest broadcast within the timer window.

Klaus

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Re: [vdr] [ANNOUNCE] VDR developer version 1.7.3

2009-01-08 Thread Alex Betis
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 11:17 PM, Klaus Schmidinger 
klaus.schmidin...@cadsoft.de wrote:

 On 08.01.2009 20:41, Alex Betis wrote:
  On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 7:50 PM, user. vdr user@gmail.com
  mailto:user@gmail.com wrote:
 
  On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 7:06 AM, Klaus Schmidinger
  klaus.schmidin...@cadsoft.de mailto:klaus.schmidin...@cadsoft.de
  wrote:
+ The directory name for a recording has been changed from
  -MM-DD-hh[.:]mm.pr.lt.rec (pr=priority, lt=lifetime) to
  -MM-DD-hh.mm.ch-ri.rec (ch=channel, ri=resumeId).
 
  Is the channel number even necessary information to store in a
  dirname?  I've experienced many times where channels have been
  shuffled (requiring a rescanning  a new channels.conf)
  so channel 100 could be one network today and a different one
  tomorrow.  Maybe a better choice would be using the channel
 shortname,
  for example:
 
  -MM-DD-hh.mm.CNN-ri.rec
  -MM-DD-hh.mm.BBC-ri.rec
 
 
  I don't know how VDR work, but I think it will be wise to have a file
  with the same filename and .info or even .epg extension that will
  have relevant EPG section for the recorded program including full
  channel name.

 That's all already contained in the 'info' file of a recording.

Great! So I didn't reinvent the wheel :)




  If the recording timer was set manualy, maybe it should include all
  programs that lay between start and end of the recording.

 It stores the EPG data of the longest broadcast within the timer window.

That's fine if only one program is intended to be recorded. What if someone
wants to record a bunch of programs?
There are lots of music shows in the night between 31/12 and 01/01 of every
year. With old tape recorder I just pressed REC and hope that the tape will
contain as many programs as possible. In such case I would like to see all
recorded programs descriptions.




 Klaus

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