Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU6.5.2a Solaris 10 Hot Catalog backup failing

2008-12-01 Thread Marianne Van Den Berg
Looks like we have a resource problem - cpu utilization on master
sitting at 100% all the time.
Might be a combination of VBR data collection on master and 6.5.2 being
more resource intensive...
Anybody with similar experience?

Regards

M.

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From: Justin Piszcz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 29 November 2008 23:50
To: Marianne Van Den Berg
Cc: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU6.5.2a Solaris 10 Hot Catalog backup
failing



On Sat, 29 Nov 2008, Marianne Van Den Berg wrote:

 Nope - no entries in critical section.
 Catalog backups have been working fine after 6.5.2 upgrade (about 3
 weeks ago); been failing last 4 days.

 -Original Message-
 From: Justin Piszcz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 29 November 2008 19:26
 To: Marianne Van Den Berg
 Cc: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU6.5.2a Solaris 10 Hot Catalog backup
 failing



 On Sat, 29 Nov 2008, Marianne Van Den Berg wrote:

 Hi All



 Clustered NBU 6.5.2a master server (with EEB's) on Solaris 10.
 Tcp_fusion disabled.



 Hot Catalog backups (the last stream backing up the images and the
 parent) have been failing for a couple of days now with all sorts of
 errors - 50, 41, 25, 227.



 This particular stream failed with 41 after backing up 41Gb:

 Error bpbrm (pid=26181) db_FLISTsend failed: network connection timed
 out (41).

 Master server is doing network backup  to media server (also on
 6.5.2).



 Has anybody seen this? Ideas? Advise?

 Do you have policies in the critical section of the catalog backup
 policy?

 Justin.



Next step I would perform is to verify your catalog (bpdbm) check 
consistency 2 and look for any bad images.

Justin.



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Re: [Veritas-bu] SAP Scheduled Job Fails with 6 and thenneverre-runs

2008-12-01 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)

Well a call was logged and they are helping..!
Si



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thenneverre-runs


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Sounds strange, if you open a case with them they may ask you to
upgrade
to 6.x, 


*May* ask you to upgrade?

The END OF SUPPORT LIFE for 5.1 is Monday, December 1, 2008.  As in 3
days from now.

If you are still running 5.1 now and not upgrading this weekend, you
will have no Symantec support to help with an upgrade.


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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU6.5.2a Solaris 10 Hot Catalog backup failing

2008-12-01 Thread Mark Glazerman
We periodically get the 227 error and that is often accompanied by an entry in 
the problem report (search for the master server having the issue) which 
implies that the catalog policy has exceeded it's maximum number of configured 
attempts.  This will just randomly occur and after that point it won't run a 
scheduled backup but will let me submit manual catalog backups.  It notmally 
only complains about 1 schedule inside the catalog policy (We have a night and 
day schedule within the catalog policy).  

Our fix for this requires the catalog policy to be deleted and then cycling of 
all the NBU services.  Once NBU is back up create a new catalog policy and 
normally things are fine again.  We found that this would normally coincide 
with our master server getting beat up with regard to CPU and memory so we now 
have a script which restarts the NBU services on a weekly basis to clear out 
any old or lingering NBU processes which might be hanging onto resources.

Hope this is somewhat helpful.

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Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 3:16 AM
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Cc: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU6.5.2a Solaris 10 Hot Catalog backup failing

Looks like we have a resource problem - cpu utilization on master
sitting at 100% all the time.
Might be a combination of VBR data collection on master and 6.5.2 being
more resource intensive...
Anybody with similar experience?

Regards

M.

-Original Message-
From: Justin Piszcz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 29 November 2008 23:50
To: Marianne Van Den Berg
Cc: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU6.5.2a Solaris 10 Hot Catalog backup
failing



On Sat, 29 Nov 2008, Marianne Van Den Berg wrote:

 Nope - no entries in critical section.
 Catalog backups have been working fine after 6.5.2 upgrade (about 3
 weeks ago); been failing last 4 days.

 -Original Message-
 From: Justin Piszcz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 29 November 2008 19:26
 To: Marianne Van Den Berg
 Cc: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU6.5.2a Solaris 10 Hot Catalog backup
 failing



 On Sat, 29 Nov 2008, Marianne Van Den Berg wrote:

 Hi All



 Clustered NBU 6.5.2a master server (with EEB's) on Solaris 10.
 Tcp_fusion disabled.



 Hot Catalog backups (the last stream backing up the images and the
 parent) have been failing for a couple of days now with all sorts of
 errors - 50, 41, 25, 227.



 This particular stream failed with 41 after backing up 41Gb:

 Error bpbrm (pid=26181) db_FLISTsend failed: network connection timed
 out (41).

 Master server is doing network backup  to media server (also on
 6.5.2).



 Has anybody seen this? Ideas? Advise?

 Do you have policies in the critical section of the catalog backup
 policy?

 Justin.



Next step I would perform is to verify your catalog (bpdbm) check 
consistency 2 and look for any bad images.

Justin.



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Re: [Veritas-bu] SLP - doing it manually

2008-12-01 Thread Rosenkoetter, Gabriel
I missed the original post, but you know that there are a *lot* of SLP bug 
fixes already available in 6.5.3 and several useability features will be added 
in ~6.5.5 / 7, right?


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Hello David,

we have the same problem and we passed an Enhancement Request to Symantec. Even 
you start the SLP manually you will have the same problem. You can try to use 
different volume pools

regards Roland

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[Veritas-bu] Clarity on new tech alert (some NBU 6.5.x)

2008-12-01 Thread Cornely, David
Anyone else seen this?
http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/311581.htm

The description is a bit ambiguous so I'm trying to get clarity:

A potential for missed backups without notification has been discovered
in NetBackup Server/Enterprise Server when calendar based schedules have
a configured window spanning midnight and go Active after midnight. This
may result in a client backup not running during the next open window
for any calendar based schedules configured in the same policy. This is
independent of the scheduled backup type being configured as Full or
Incremental.

Does this refer to jobs going active after midnight or the policy itself
being made active after midnight?  I think it's referring to when queued
jobs go active after midnight but wanted to be sure.

TIA,

-Dave

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Clarity on new tech alert (some NBU 6.5.x)

2008-12-01 Thread judy_hinchcliffe
Not a problem for me has I have not applied any of the binaries.

 

 



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David
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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Clarity on new tech alert (some NBU 6.5.x)

 

Anyone else seen this?

http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/311581.htm
http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/311581.htm 

The description is a bit ambiguous so I'm trying to get clarity:

A potential for missed backups without notification has been discovered
in NetBackup Server/Enterprise Server when calendar based schedules have
a configured window spanning midnight and go Active after midnight. This
may result in a client backup not running during the next open window
for any calendar based schedules configured in the same policy. This is
independent of the scheduled backup type being configured as Full or
Incremental.

Does this refer to jobs going active after midnight or the policy itself
being made active after midnight?  I think it's referring to when queued
jobs go active after midnight but wanted to be sure.

TIA,

-Dave

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Clarity on new tech alert (some NBU 6.5.x)

2008-12-01 Thread Len Boyle
I believe that it means that the job goes active after midnight. But you have 
to have 6.5.2 or better with an eng binary or 6.5.3 to have the problem.

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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Clarity on new tech alert (some NBU 6.5.x)


Anyone else seen this?

http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/311581.htm

The description is a bit ambiguous so I'm trying to get clarity:

A potential for missed backups without notification has been discovered in 
NetBackup Server/Enterprise Server when calendar based schedules have a 
configured window spanning midnight and go Active after midnight. This may 
result in a client backup not running during the next open window for any 
calendar based schedules configured in the same policy. This is independent of 
the scheduled backup type being configured as Full or Incremental.

Does this refer to jobs going active after midnight or the policy itself being 
made active after midnight?  I think it's referring to when queued jobs go 
active after midnight but wanted to be sure.

TIA,

-Dave
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Re: [Veritas-bu] bocada software for monitoring

2008-12-01 Thread Rusty . Major
We are also using Aptare for our backup monitoring of both NetBackup (15+ 
domains) and TSM (50+ instances). We have been using Aptare for monitoring 
on NBU for the past 3 years or so and it has been nothing short of 
stellar. We have had our TSM data reporting in for the past few months and 
our TSM teams are amazed at what this product does compared to what they 
had before. I'll tell you that we evaluated VBR and one of the strikes 
against it was that it didn't report on TSM as well as Aptare does.

Take the products for a test drive for a couple of weeks and see which one 
suits you the best. I know that both Aptare and VBR will offer this 
service, not sure about Bocada, but I bet they do.

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Hi All, 

Did any one tried Bocada for monitoring the Backups on Veritas. Bocada 
software claims that it can monitor the backups running/ran on Veritas 
Netbackup as well as TSM. We have both the environment running in the 
infrastructure , but not able to monitor the backups on a single console, 
is there any other software which can help us in monitoring . 

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[Veritas-bu] Bperror command in 6.5.2

2008-12-01 Thread Brendan Clover
Hi All,

We use the bperror command to report on the status of last nights backups with 
a command line something like this:

sudo bperror -U -backstat -d 11/30/2008 17:00 -e 11/12/2008 18:00

However since upgrading our master server to 6.5.2 over the weekend this 
command errors, if I remove the time fields the command works again.  The help 
for bperror suggests that the above command is still valid, does anyone know of 
a work around without using the hours ago switch?

Regards,

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Information Technologist
Systems Infrastructure
University of South Australia
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Bperror command in 6.5.2

2008-12-01 Thread Brendan Clover
Thanks Mike and John, 

Adding the seconds worked a treat, obviously changed functionality from 6.5.1 
and 5.1.

Regards,

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Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Bperror command in 6.5.2

Brendan,

Try adding the seconds field to the start and end time.That should
work.

bperror -U -backstat -d 11/30/2008 17:00:00 -e 12/12/2008 18:00:00 



-Mike

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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Bperror command in 6.5.2

Hi All,

We use the bperror command to report on the status of last nights
backups with a command line something like this:

sudo bperror -U -backstat -d 11/30/2008 17:00 -e 11/12/2008 18:00

However since upgrading our master server to 6.5.2 over the weekend this
command errors, if I remove the time fields the command works again.
The help for bperror suggests that the above command is still valid,
does anyone know of a work around without using the hours ago switch?

Regards,

Brendan Clover
Information Technologist
Systems Infrastructure
University of South Australia
Phone: +61 8 830 23641 
Fax: +61 8 830 25800

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Re: [Veritas-bu] bocada software for monitoring

2008-12-01 Thread Ed Wilts
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 4:57 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Take the products for a test drive for a couple of weeks and see which one
 suits you the best. I know that both Aptare and VBR will offer this service,
 not sure about Bocada, but I bet they do.


Bocada used to because we had a test drive here.   It only took their tech
support folks and me about a half-day to install the client on my desktop
after the server was configured.  Back then, and I don't know if it still
is, the client was very fat and very ugly.  Definitely NOT something you'd
want management to have to install.  Aptare, on the other hand, just
requires a web browser (unfortunately the current requirements are nothing
my own tech support folks will support, but that's not Aptare's fault).

.../Ed

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Bperror command in 6.5.2

2008-12-01 Thread Steve Fogarty
Your start date is after your end date.

Start is Nov 30
End is  Nov 12.

Steve



On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 7:24 PM, Brendan Clover
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Hi All,

 We use the bperror command to report on the status of last nights backups
 with a command line something like this:

 sudo bperror -U -backstat -d 11/30/2008 17:00 -e 11/12/2008 18:00

 However since upgrading our master server to 6.5.2 over the weekend this
 command errors, if I remove the time fields the command works again.  The
 help for bperror suggests that the above command is still valid, does anyone
 know of a work around without using the hours ago switch?

 Regards,

 Brendan Clover
 Information Technologist
 Systems Infrastructure
 University of South Australia
 Phone: +61 8 830 23641
 Fax: +61 8 830 25800

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