SV: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup PureDisk vs datadomain / Diligent..

2006-05-18 Thread Hampus Lind
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Yes, I am referring to ProtecTIER.

 

 



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are
you referring to Diligent's ProtecTIER, content based screening, that only
backs up the changed blocks, minimizing the amount of data on disk??





 





Falconstor,
IIRC, does software based compression before writing to the virtual tape, and
that's it.





 





Paul





 





 



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PureDisk vs datadomain / Diligent..

I have been going through falconstor homepage and cant find
anything about “de-deuplication” or “compression” which
some call it, like the one diligent offers. Do they have these functions?










SV: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup PureDisk vs datadomain / Diligent..

2006-05-18 Thread Hampus Lind
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I have been going through
falconstor homepage and cant find anything about “de-deuplication”
or “compression” which some call it, like the one diligent offers.
Do they have these functions?

 

 



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LOL...not
far...based on features, those are the two we are going to start looking at
soon.





 





Paul





 





 



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Netbackup PureDisk vs datadomain / Diligent..

Ok..

 

How fare have you come in you evaluation with diligent and
falconstor? Have you found any big difference between the two?

We have looked at diligent for some time now, the down side right
now is that there is only one test installation here in Sweden which results
little knowledge and no local support/service organisation.

Falconstor I think have a couple of installation and some more OEM
installations. But I haven’t looked that much at them yet.










SV: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup PureDisk vs datadomain / Diligent..

2006-05-18 Thread Hampus Lind
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J

 

Do you have any thoughts
on how you would use tapes in a diligent or falconstor environment? Or are you
looking at only use disk as a backup media?

For safety reasons one
could mirror the disk and replicate the servers to different sites, but yet I don’t
know if its enough.

 

Basically with these
products you only have one generation of a fullbackup (if you don’t make
some more of curse, but then you need more disk capacity), which means if you
lose that disk all backups are gone. Do you see any risks with this? Of course
if you mirror the disk to one or more sites you are much safer.

 

I think the tape vendors
have brainwashed me!! J

 

 



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LOL...not
far...based on features, those are the two we are going to start looking at
soon.





 





Paul





 





 



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-Original Message-
From: Hampus Lind
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Sent: May 18, 2006 2:05 PM
To: Paul Keating;
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Subject: SV: [Veritas-bu]
Netbackup PureDisk vs datadomain / Diligent..

Ok..

 

How fare have you come in you evaluation with diligent and
falconstor? Have you found any big difference between the two?

We have looked at diligent for some time now, the down side right
now is that there is only one test installation here in Sweden which results
little knowledge and no local support/service organisation.

Falconstor I think have a couple of installation and some more OEM
installations. But I haven’t looked that much at them yet.










SV: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup PureDisk vs datadomain / Diligent..

2006-05-18 Thread Hampus Lind
Title: Message









Ok..

 

How fare have you come in
you evaluation with diligent and falconstor? Have you found any big difference
between the two?

We have looked at
diligent for some time now, the down side right now is that there is only one
test installation here in Sweden which results little knowledge and no local support/service
organisation.

Falconstor I think have a
couple of installation and some more OEM installations. But I haven’t looked
that much at them yet.

 

 



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we're
looking at Diligent and Falconstor.





 





primarily
because Netbackup isn't "there" yet..DSSU doesn't cover what we need,
and it doesn't look like they're ready to go wide open with purdisk yet, so
with falconstor or diligent, we can license the SW and run it on commodity 2U
servers and attach it to whatever disk we want, and roll it into our current
environment with little impact..then when Netbackup is ready to play ball
in the Enterprise D2D arena, we can re-allocate the servers, and re-use
the disk directly, rather than having a big piece of proprietary hardware
sitting on the data center floor.





 





Paul





 



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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup
PureDisk vs datadomain / Diligent..

Hi,

 

I am looking datadomain
and diligent products and have noticed that Netbackup are doing something
similar with its PurDisk function. Have anyone looked at Netbackup PureDisk?