rectangular (block) paste from clipboard ?

[M Kelly]

Hi,
Anyone know of a way to block paste from the external clipboard buffer ?
I can paste but its not block paste.
For example, I use tmux and block-copy selection to clipboard but cannot get 
this to block paste in vim.
thx,
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Re: terminal - back to terminal from normal ?

[M Kelly]

Would something like this work as a toggle ?

nnoremap    ( == 'terminal') ? 'i' : '\'

-mark

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terminal - back to terminal from normal ?

[M Kelly]

Hi,

When in a terminal I can do  or  to get into normal mode.
But is there a way to get back to terminal mode ?  No matter what I try and 
search for I cannot seem to find it.

thx,
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Re: terminal - back to terminal from normal ?

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> Any command that would start Insert mode, e.g. 'a' or 'i'.

Well ok, thats just too darn obvious!

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mapping ?

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Hi,

Any idea why this doesn't work ?

nnoremap  :conf qa

If I don't use the  but some other non-ctrl char it works fine.
I keep getting a msg:

Type :qa! and press  to abandon all changes and exit Vim

On this and also whenever I just type ctrl-c

thx,
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Re: mapping ?

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> Are you in windows OS? If it is, it will confilct with windows OS shortkey.

Hi, no, sorry should have added that.  I'm on Linux, Ubuntu 16.04 LTS +hwe

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vim quit except when terminal(s) active

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Hi,

Any help with an autocmd so that when I quit vim it does not really quit if at 
least one terminal is still active ?
Otherwise the current window goes hidden and then when I exit the terminal the 
previous window/buffer suddenly reappears.

thx always for vim and all your support,
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Re: vim quit except when terminal(s) active

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Hi,

I think I solved it with this -

function! s:TermQuit()
  quit!
endfunction
tnoremap   :call TermQuit()

take care,
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autocmd terminal set signcolumn=no

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Hi,

I set signcolumn=yes in my .vimrc.
When starting a terminal the sign column is not displayed, but then going into 
normal mode for this terminal shows it again.
I tried this -

au BufWinEnter * if  == 'terminal' | set signcolumn=no | endif

but it does not work.
Any idea how to automatically set signcolumn to no for new terminals ?

If I manually, once already in the terminal, use :set signcolumn=no then I 
do not get the sign column when switching into normal mode for this terminal.
 
thx,
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Re: autocmd terminal set signcolumn=no

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Hi,

I just read about the TerminalOpen event, when I use:

au TerminalOpen * set signcolumn=no

it works :-)

thx,
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execute "conf qa" or ":conf qa"

[M Kelly]

Hi,

It seems that sometimes I see cmds in an execute statement without a leading 
colon, as in:

execute "conf qa"

And sometimes I see the colon, as in:

execute ":conf qa"

Is there a rule or reason why ?  Just wanting to understand it properly.
I would have thought I need a colon always since I had thought the execute was 
being performed in 'normal' mode.  But it seems to work without the colon, at 
least in some places.

thx as always,
mark

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Re: terminal mode bracketed paste ?

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Hi,

> In this situation t_BE and t_BD are empty, thus bracketed paste is not
> supported.

Thanks for looking into it.  

Adding this -

if  =~ "screen"
  let _BE = "\e[?2004h"
  let _BD = "\e[?2004l"
  exec "set t_PS=\e[200~"
  exec "set t_PE=\e[201~"
endif

is a good solution for me.

thank you so much for vim, and thanks to everyone for all their support,
-m

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terminal mode normal mode mapping ?

[M Kelly]

Hi,

Is there a way to map keys only when in normal mode from a terminal ?

thx,
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Re: terminal mode bracketed paste ?

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> Vim does not enables bracketed paste mode if TERM=screen.
> To enable bracketed paste mode when vim runs in tmux, you may add following
> setting into .vimrc.
> 
> if  =~ "screen"
> let _BE = "\e[?2004h"
> let _BD = "\e[?2004l"
> exec "set t_PS=\e[200~"
> exec "set t_PE=\e[201~"
> endif

Thank you, works great :-)

take care,
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Re: terminal mode bracketed paste ?

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> How exactly do you paste?

first -
 to get into normal mode
V, select a few lines moving around
yank
back to terminal mode

then -
paste with ctrl-shift-v or with mouse middle button

thx,
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Re: terminal mode bracketed paste ?

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> I cannot reproduce this when running Vim in a terminal window.
> What do you run, zsh?  How do you start it, with ":term zsh" or with
> ":term" while 'shell' is set to "zsh"?
> 
> And what terminal is Vim running in and what is 'term' set to?

Hi,

just :terminal
my shell is zsh
TERM=screen-256color 
(all from within tmux)

thx,
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Re: terminal mode normal mode mapping ?

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> Is there a way to map keys only when in normal mode from a terminal ?

Hi,

I think something like this works -

nnoremap( == 'terminal') ? 'i' : ''

thx,
-m

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terminal mode bracketed paste ?

[M Kelly]

Hi,

It seems for me bracketed paste is not enabled in terminal mode.
If I copy a few lines then paste into my zsh outside of vim (in tmux) then 
bracketed paste is enabled and the lines are not executed until I hit enter.
But if in terminal mode I paste then each line is executed.

Is this possible ?  Is there a config setting I can enable ?
Any help appreciated.
thx,
mark

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Re: execute "conf qa" or ":conf qa"

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> So if the operand of :execute starts with a colon, that colon is not harmful,
> but it isn't necessary either.

Thank you so much Tony for explaining that.

-mark

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vimdiff exit when files are identical?

[M Kelly]

Hi,
Is there a variable for how many diffs are present after starting vimdiff ?
I'd like to exit immediately with status of 0 if there are no differences 
between the files I pass into vimdiff.
thx for any suggestions,
-mark

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Re: vimdiff exit when files are identical?

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> Another way would be to check the fold regions.

Any pointer/info/tip on how to determine the non-fold region is empty ?

thx,
mark

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Re: :terminal mode ques

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> > Off course you can. Type CTRL+\ CTRL+N and the terminal buffer will become 
> > a regular buffer without ending the job. Then you can yank, mark or do 
> > whatever you need.
> > 
> > 
> > To go back to Terminal mode just type A.
> 
> ok, yes, but this is more effort than before.  In more detail, if I am in a 
> non-vim shell I can type cd then click on a dir with the mouse and click 
> again to paste and its there.  In vim terminal mode I would like to do the 
> same, if it is at all possible I am not sure.  In a vim terminal I can type 
> cd then c-\ c-n then hold the mouse and drag across the dir then type i/a 
> then paste but it would be really awesome if I could use typical shell/term 
> mouse events when in vim terminal mode.

Maybe go into visual mode (ie c-\ c-n) with a mouse click and then go back to 
terminal mode with another click ??


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timer / job / window / tab

[M Kelly]

Hi,
I am creating a timer that starts a job at a regular interval.
When the job is finished I update a variable with some of the job output with a 
ch_read().
I would like to update the statusline with this variable, but that means each 
vim process and also each tab / window have their own 'stream' of these timers 
and variables.
Can I start a timer for each BufReadPost,BufNewFile,FileReadPost ?
And then have a w: or t: variable for reading from each channel ?
Anyone done anything similar that has suggestions ?
thx

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Re: :terminal mode ques

[M Kelly]

Hi again,

Also I cannot seem to select any text with the mouse in terminal mode.
I understand I cannot edit the terminal buffer but I do still want to cut/paste 
from the mouse to the command line from time to time.
Anyone know of a way to make this work ?

thanks again as always to everyone for their work and help,
-mark

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Re: :terminal mode ques

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> Off course you can. Type CTRL+\ CTRL+N and the terminal buffer will become a 
> regular buffer without ending the job. Then you can yank, mark or do whatever 
> you need.
> 
> 
> To go back to Terminal mode just type A.

ok, yes, but this is more effort than before.  In more detail, if I am in a 
non-vim shell I can type cd then click on a dir with the mouse and click again 
to paste and its there.  In vim terminal mode I would like to do the same, if 
it is at all possible I am not sure.  In a vim terminal I can type cd then c-\ 
c-n then hold the mouse and drag across the dir then type i/a then paste but it 
would be really awesome if I could use typical shell/term mouse events when in 
vim terminal mode.

thx

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:terminal mode ques

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Hi,

I am using :terminal and it is great!, thank you.
I have two questions if anyone can help -

1). is there a way to get vim to exit if the only buffer was a terminal in the 
current window and that job ends ?

2). is there a way to start several :terminal windows but have them hidden and 
then how would I switch from one to the other ?  (ie I don't want tiled windows 
but just one and switch between them with a shortcut key)

thanks for any insight,
-mark

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Re: :terminal mode ques

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> 1). is there a way to get vim to exit if the only buffer was a terminal in 
> the current window and that job ends ? 

Perhaps something related to autocmd BufLeave ... to close/end vim ??

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if only true in first file ?

[M Kelly]

Hi,

In my .vimrc I have

if 
  let b:mckgitstatus = "diff"
else
  autocmd BufReadPost,BufNewFile,FileReadPost * call MyGitStatus()
  autocmd BufUnload * call MyGitLeave()
endif

And in the first file window I do see "diff" status as expected.
But the second file window does not have the "diff" status, but my git stuff.

Any idea why if  does not work for the second file window ?

thx always for vim and your support,
-mark

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Re: if only true in first file ?

[M Kelly]

I added a check in my lightline git branch routine to check for diff and set 
the correct "diff" status there, so its fixed now.
When I think about it, it makes sense this way. But at first I thought both 
files would go through the same .vimrc startup logic.
take care,
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count folds ?

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Hi,

Is there a way in vim script to count the number of folds present ?

thanks always for the vim universe,
-mark

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Re: :Termdebug config/startup to hide debugged program window

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> No, currently there is no option for it.  But it makes sense.
> 
> I wonder how best to specify this.  I suppose it depends on what you
> want to debug, thus a global flag is not that useful.  Some flag on the
> :Termdebug command is probably more useful.

Yes, that would be great.

thx,
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Re: :Termdebug config/startup to hide debugged program window

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Hi,

Is Termdebug a plug-in ?  If so, I will stare at it next week and see if I
can figure something out here.

thx,
-m


On Wed, Oct 31, 2018, 6:30 PM M Kelly  > No, currently there is no option for it.  But it makes sense.
> >
> > I wonder how best to specify this.  I suppose it depends on what you
> > want to debug, thus a global flag is not that useful.  Some flag on the
> > :Termdebug command is probably more useful.
>
> Yes, that would be great.
>
> thx,
> -m
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:Termdebug config/startup to hide debugged program window

[M Kelly]

Hi,
I am using :Termdebug and was wondering if there was a way to remove the:
  2 #a?  "debugged program [active]"line 0
window/buffer at start up.  
I usually attach to a running process and do not use this window.
Can I somehow hide it automatically ?
thx always for the vim universe,
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yank to reg intermittent problem

[M Kelly]

Hi,

When I yank a line (yy) I see the msg "1 line yanked" (I have report=0) 
and I have clipboard set to:
clipboard=unnamedplus,autoselect,exclude:cons\|linux
But - maybe once out of 20 time or so - the + register does not show the data.
Even if I use "+y instead of yy its the same - works fine until once in a while 
does not.
Any ideas ?  Any suggestions for debugging ?
Where in the code does the copy to + reg occur ?

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Re: display warning msg a little longer or until another keypress

[M Kelly]

Hi,

In search.c if I add the ui_delay() call in three places, 
it pretty much does what I am looking for:

give_warning((char_u *)_(top_bot_msg), TRUE);
+   ui_delay(p_mat * 100L, TRUE);

And then I set matchtime=3 for example.
Cool imho if there could be some kind of wrapscan/warning timeout 
or keypress to continue setting.

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Re: mappings when in vim from terminal not the same

[M Kelly]

Tony, hi

> When in Terminal-Job mode, _only_ the mappings defined by tmap or
> :tnoremap are active. OTOH, these mappings are active nowhere else.

If I start a bash as a terminal job, and in that bash I start vim (I know 
circular and maybe not ok, but its what I did), then I still have 
some tmaps active in that vim in its normal mode - or it acts that way.
Anyway, it may be too much to bother with, but it was interesting.

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remap C-\ to a different C- key ?

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Hi,

Is it possible to remap C-\ to a different C- key ?

thx for all that is vim,
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Re: remap C-\ to a different C- key ?

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Tony, hi

Sorry for not being more precise -
I mean make another key do what C-\ does, but my difficult point is
that another program (like a window mgr etc.) might grab C-\ before vim,
so I don't mean map C-x to C-\ for exmaple.

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Re: remap C-\ to a different C- key ?

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Hi,

If the window mgr grabs C-\ then I don't think it will work ?
I did test but will test again, I propably messed something up.

I think what I'm hoping for is if perhaps we knew something like:
C-\ calls function foo() ...
then I can unmap C-\ and map C-x (or S-F12) to call function foo()
and then I get the same functionality from a different key sequence
and the window mgr can grab C-\ all it wants.

thx so much for your help,
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Re: remap C-\ to a different C- key ?

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Hi,

> window manager won't receive the key from inside Vim. So

I think this is the issue - for me yes, the window mgr wins
and I try to make sure it and vim do not use the same key sequences.

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Re: remap C-\ to a different C- key ?

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Hi,

I made progress after finding my mistakes.
I will map 'something else' to C-\ in terminal mode and command mode.
Thank you again for your replies which help so much.

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Re: search file for text in reg ?

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Hi,

>   /a

Tony, thanks,  That is also great to know and I will use it.

thank you and everyone for vim,
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Re: mappings when in vim from terminal not the same

[M Kelly]

Hi,

One thing _I think_ is happening is my tmaps are being honored instead of (or 
perhaps before) my nmaps.
Perhaps I can tunmap some maps in this case ?
I'll post what I find.

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search file for text in reg ?

[M Kelly]

Hi,

Is there a way to search a file for the text that is in a register ?

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Re: search file for text in reg ?

[M Kelly]

Hi,

>   :let @/=@a

Awesome, thank you Tim.

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Re: Talks on VimConf2018 are now published here.

[M Kelly]

Hi,

Thank you.

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Re: :wn to :x like map/abbrev ?

[M Kelly]

Hi,

> Something like:
>   :update|next
> perhaps?

ok, cool.  I didn't know about :update.
(I could even maybe handle E163, E165 for the last one)

take care, 
and thank you and everyone for vim,
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:wn to :x like map/abbrev ?

[M Kelly]

Hi,

When editting many files I can just do :wn to save and go to next, but
just curious, does anyone know of a mapping/abbrev so that :x acts like 
:x for one file (and the last file), but acts like :wn for the files in 
between ?  Or really just saves curent and loads next w/o a prompt ?

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Re: :wn to :x like map/abbrev ?

[M Kelly]

Hi,

Thanks.  I will look into that func, or something like it.

> Making the one act like the other would confuse me.

I think I'm really only asking for a :x to save and move on with out prompting.

take care
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mappings when in vim from terminal not the same

[M Kelly]

Hi,

Perhaps a bit circular, but I live in vim terminal a lot and when I start vim 
to edit a file from a terminal shell some of my mappings do not work as they do 
when starting vim outside of terminal (as from a standard zsh).

For example I have this:
nnoremap   viW

When in vim from terminal this does not work.
Anyone have an idea ?
Could some tmaps cause conflicts ??
Note this mapping does work ok if in normal mode from terminal.
It just does not work inside vim when its started from terminal.

thx always for the wonderful vim universe,
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Re: C-v to toggle between v-block/visual ?

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> Can I get mode() as V or v and save it to restore ?  I will try.

Yes, perhaps with visualmode() :-)

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Re: C-v to toggle between v-block/visual ?

[M Kelly]

> Something along this perhaps?
> 
> xnoremap   mode()=="\"?"V":"\"

Thank you.  To follow-up how do we know to V or v (how visual was originally 
started) ?  Is that possible ?

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Re: C-v to toggle between v-block/visual ?

[M Kelly]

Hi,

> Thank you.  To follow-up how do we know to V or v (how visual was originally 
> started) ?  Is that possible ?

Can I get mode() as V or v and save it to restore ?  I will try.

thx again,
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C-v to toggle between v-block/visual ?

[M Kelly]

Hi,

Anyone know of a way to vnoremap  to toggle between visual and v-block 
modes ?  As it is now for me,  from visual mode goes to v-block mode 
(which is great), but press  again and it exits all visual modes, I would 
like it to just toggle it back to visual mode and update the selection.

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display warning msg a little longer or until another keypress

[M Kelly]

Hi everyone,

An example of this would be when I have shm-=s and I search for a string, when 
it wraps I get the warning msg "search hit BOTTOM, continuing at TOP" and I 
have changed my WarngingMsg highlight to make this easier to see, but without 
disabling wrapscan, I often find the warning msg disappears so fast that I 
didn't realize I wrapped until I see the line numbers, etc.
Does anyone know of a way to get the warning msg to display a little longer or 
require an additional n/N or some such keypress to then continue on ?

thx for everything vim,
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vimdiff + wrap line alignment

[M Kelly]

Hi,

If I set wrap on for vimdiff (in all windows) and there is a wrapped line in 
one window long enough to wrap at least once more than the other window, the 
lines in the windows are no longer in alignment.  For example, it would seem 
the "" line in one window to match the other's new line is only as long as 
the window width and not as long as the other window's new line ??
Anyone have any suggestion for keeping file lines aligned with wrap on in 
vimdiff ?

thx as always for everything vim.
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scrolljump and paste ?

[M Kelly]

Hi,

I set scrolljump=-50, it works well for me.
But sometimes when I paste it is annoying when the cursor jumps.
I have experimented with:

au InsertEnter * let =1
au InsertLeave * let =-50

but this doesn't seem to affect pasting.
Does anyone know of or have a suggestion for this ?
Could I remap 'p' to set scrolljump=1 then p again ?

thx for all things vim,
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Re: scrolljump and paste ?

[M Kelly]

> Thanks Tony.
> Is there a way around the recursion of mapping p to call a function that
> issues a p between setting scrolljump values ?  Perhaps with an alias ?

Hi,

Something weird, like this ???

function! MyPaste() abort
  nnoremap   p p
  let =1
  execute "normal p"
  let =-50
  nnoremap   p :call MyPaste()
endfunction

nnoremap   p :call MyPaste()

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Re: scrolljump and paste ?

[M Kelly]

> :map  :set scrolljump=1p
> :map  :set scrolljump=1P
> :map  :set scrolljump=-50

Hi,

Thanks Tony.
Is there a way around the recursion of mapping p to call a function that
issues a p between setting scrolljump values ?  Perhaps with an alias ?

thx,
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Re: mutex ?

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Hi,

> Yes, things happen asynchronously, bit all in the same thread.
> Thus you can use a normal variable as a flag.

ok, cool.

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mutex ?

[M Kelly]

Hi,

Is there any suggestion for a mutex lock/unlock in vim ?
I want to protect some logging code in my plugin from being executed 
concurrently.

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Re: mutex ?

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Hi,

I use job channels and things run async as far as I can tell ?

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Failed to parse vim.desktop file msgs

[M Kelly]

Hi,

I get many of these msgs on my system in syslog:

Aug 27 15:02:15  gnome-session[]: (gnome-software:): 
As-WARNING **: failed to rescan: Failed to parse 
/usr/local/share/applications/vim.desktop file: cannot process file of type 
application/x-desktop

Anyone know why ?
I do not get this warning with gvim even though there is a very similar 
gvim.desktop file in the same dir.
I am installing from master and the 
/usr/local/share/applications/vim.desktop file gets copied there from make 
install
I am on ubuntu 16.04 with newer kernel.  gnome-software verson is: 3.20.5

thanks for all vim,
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Re: Failed to parse vim.desktop file msgs

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Hi,

I checked it for invalid utf-8 and it was clean as far as I can tell.
I'll keep digging.

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CursorHoldV ?

[M Kelly]

Hi,

Is there a way to have insert-mode and visual-mode auto return to 
normal-mode if nothing was typed/moved/etc. in updatetime ?
I think I could use an autocmd for CursorHoldI to return to normal-mode, 
but is there a CursorHoldV or does CursorHold also work in visual-mode ?
Is there another way to determine if there was a keypress or cursor 
movement whilst in visual-mode ?

thanks for everything vim,
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Re: cmdline regex ques

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Hi,

I was able to use the 'Konfekt/vim-alias' plugin for this -

:Alias q call\ Quit()
:Alias q! call\ QuitBang()

thx again everyone,
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cmdline regex ques

[M Kelly]

Hi,

Does anyone know what would be the vim regex for getcmdline() =~ for both 
'q' and 'q!' ?
ie, something like:
cnoreabbrev  q  (getcmdtype() == ':' && getcmdline() =~ '\s*q\s*$') 
?  'call Quit()' : 'q'
cnoreabbrev  q! (getcmdtype() == ':' && getcmdline() =~ '\s*q!\s*$') 
? 'call QuitBang()' : 'q!'
But this clearly isn't right because the q! cmd is picked up by the q here.
I think we need an exact match on the string between whitespace ?

thx for everything vim,
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Re: cmdline regex ques

[M Kelly]

Hi,

I guess it evaluates as I type ?  So no real way around this.
Perhaps a cmap  could trigger a cmdline substitution ?
Maybe there is such a plugin already.

thx,
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nested expr in a mapping

[M Kelly]

Hi,

Is it posible to nest conditionals in a mapping, something like, just for 
demonstration:

vnoremap  vv (strlen(@y) == 1) ? ':let ...' : '("vcl" =~ 
getregtype("*")) ? 'some foo' : 'some bar' '  some more ...

Can we do this ?  Do I use ''' (3 single quotes) to embed quotes ?  (and 
then 5 for a 2nd level embed ...) ... ?

thx as always,
-m

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3-LeftMouse ques

[M Kelly]

Hi,

I have a vmap for , and it works great.
Is there a way to differentiate  from  ?
Or is it just a fact of life that the  will always go through the 
 mapping first ?

thx for everything vim,
-m

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Re: viw / how to select a one char word ?

[M Kelly]

Hi,

Yes, I'll wager this has something to do with my terminal and its terminfo 
capabilities.

thx,
-m

On Monday, February 3, 2020 at 8:45:14 AM UTC-5, Tony Mechelynck wrote:
>
> On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 2:33 PM M Kelly > 
> wrote: 
> > 
> > Hi, 
> > 
> > ok I found my error and fixed it. It was in a bad vmap I had for iw 
> > Thank you all, as always, for the info. 
> > Now I think 'viw' works well for me in all cases :-) 
> > I wish the one char word, when selected, changed colour but not a 
> problem. 
>
> In my gvim the one-character visually selected word's Visual highlight 
> is visible during the "off" phase of the blinking cursor; and with 
> 'showcmd' on the number of characters (and bytes, if different) in the 
> selection is displayed near bottom right of the Vim screen. 
>
> Best regards, 
> Tony. 
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join() a list with a newline char for an echo

[M Kelly]

Hi,

If I have a list [ one, two, three ] is there a way to turn it into a 
single string with newlines after each element ?
Such that an echo mylist would show it as mulitple lines, ie:
one
two
three

I have tried join( mylist, "\n") but it uses ^@ and "\r" uses ^M

thx for everything vim,
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Re: viw / how to select a one char word ?

[M Kelly]

Hi,

Yes, thanks.
I was looking for a consistent way to select the whole word the cursor is 
on, no matter how many chars it is.
This could then become a new mapping or mouse double-click etc.

It seems viw, vaw, lbve are all good and work most of the time, but I 
cannot seem to find one set of cmds that always works.
It is also weird the difference between my vim and with -u NONE about the 
viw.

thx,
-m

On Monday, February 3, 2020 at 6:55:32 AM UTC-5, Boyko Bantchev wrote:
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> On Mon, 3 Feb 2020 at 13:16, M Kelly > 
> wrote: 
> > 
> > Hi, 
> > 
> > Is there a way to select a one char word ? 
> > lbve or viw or ?  All my attempts seem to continue on to the beginning 
> (or end) of the next word. 
> > Is it that a 'word' cannot be a single char ? 
>
> If you are in a normal mode, typing ‘v’ (visually) selects the 
> character under the cursor. 
> Then, typing ‘y’ will yank that character (and take you back to the 
> normal mode). 
> Or instead, type ‘yl’ to the same end. 
> Either way you will have the character stored in the unnamed register. 
> Is this what you need? 
>

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viw / how to select a one char word ?

[M Kelly]

Hi,

Is there a way to select a one char word ?
lbve or viw or ?  All my attempts seem to continue on to the beginning (or 
end) of the next word.
Is it that a 'word' cannot be a single char ?

thx for everything vim,
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Re: viw / how to select a one char word ?

[M Kelly]

Tony, hi

I have 

selection=inclusive.

For me, if there is a sentence -

 a few words

and my cursor is on the 'a' and I am in normal mode and I press 'viw'
I get 'a f' visually highlighted/selected.  

It must be some plugin / mapping then, sorry.  I just tried again with -

vim -u NONE

and now 'viw' will only include the 'a' - although the cursor does not 
change color indicating the selection.

I am very curious where/how this is altered and will have to dig through my 
.vimrc and plugins.

thx again for your help,
mark

On Monday, February 3, 2020 at 6:33:16 AM UTC-5, Tony Mechelynck wrote:
>
> On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 12:17 PM M Kelly > 
> wrote: 
> > 
> > Hi, 
> > 
> > Is there a way to select a one char word ? 
> > lbve or viw or ?  All my attempts seem to continue on to the beginning 
> (or end) of the next word. 
> > Is it that a 'word' cannot be a single char ? 
> > 
> > thx for everything vim, 
> > -m 
>
> When I do viw with the cursor on a one-letter word, that one-letter 
> word becomes visually selected. What is 'selection' set to? (":verbose 
> set sel?" will tell you the value and — if other than by default or 
> from the keyboard — where it was set.) 
>
> My vimrc includes the following, BTW: 
> " :behave tonymec 
> if exists('+selectmode') 
>   set slm=mouse,key 
> endif 
> if exists('+mousemodel') 
>   set mousemodel=popup 
> endif 
> if exists('+keymodel') 
>   set keymodel=startsel 
> endif 
> if exists('+selection') 
>   set selection=inclusive 
> endif 
>
> Best regards, 
> Tony. 
>

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Re: viw / how to select a one char word ?

[M Kelly]

Hi,

ok I found my error and fixed it. It was in a bad vmap I had for iw
Thank you all, as always, for the info.
Now I think 'viw' works well for me in all cases :-)
I wish the one char word, when selected, changed colour but not a problem.

take care,
-m

On Monday, February 3, 2020 at 7:03:18 AM UTC-5, M Kelly wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Yes, thanks.
> I was looking for a consistent way to select the whole word the cursor is 
> on, no matter how many chars it is.
> This could then become a new mapping or mouse double-click etc.
>
> It seems viw, vaw, lbve are all good and work most of the time, but I 
> cannot seem to find one set of cmds that always works.
> It is also weird the difference between my vim and with -u NONE about the 
> viw.
>
> thx,
> -m
>
> On Monday, February 3, 2020 at 6:55:32 AM UTC-5, Boyko Bantchev wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 3 Feb 2020 at 13:16, M Kelly  wrote: 
>> > 
>> > Hi, 
>> > 
>> > Is there a way to select a one char word ? 
>> > lbve or viw or ?  All my attempts seem to continue on to the beginning 
>> (or end) of the next word. 
>> > Is it that a 'word' cannot be a single char ? 
>>
>> If you are in a normal mode, typing ‘v’ (visually) selects the 
>> character under the cursor. 
>> Then, typing ‘y’ will yank that character (and take you back to the 
>> normal mode). 
>> Or instead, type ‘yl’ to the same end. 
>> Either way you will have the character stored in the unnamed register. 
>> Is this what you need? 
>>
>

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Re: join() a list with a newline char for an echo

[M Kelly]

Hi,

I agree that works - but my list is from a ch_read() and has ^@ (NL) at the 
end of each element
and I just cannot seem to get this work.  The join("\n") just puts the ^@ 
back everywhere.

thx tho,
-m

On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 6:35:57 PM UTC-5, John Little wrote:
>
> On Friday, February 7, 2020 at 7:53:02 AM UTC+13, M Kelly wrote:
>
> > I have tried join( mylist, "\n") but it uses ^@ and "\r" uses ^M
>
> works fine for me, vim, gvim, and vim --clean.
>
> :let l = ["one", "two", "three"]
> :echo join(l, "\n")
> one
> two
> three
> Press ENTER or type command to continue
>
> Maybe you're on MS Windows?  Used single quotes?  Have some settings 
> causing trouble? (try with vim --clean).
>
> HTH, John Little
>
>

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Re: nested expr in a mapping

[M Kelly]

Hi,

ok, thank you.
I always thought there had to be quotes around each block, as in () ? 'foo' 
: 'bar'
So I was trying \' and \\' and \" and \\" and extra quotes for each 
additional nested block to no success.
I will remove all quotes and see if I can get it to work.

take care,
-m

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Re: nested expr in a mapping

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Hi,

I suppose I can call a function to do this :-)

-m

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Re: substitute() regex trim last newline from register ?

[M Kelly]

Tim, hi

ok, awesome.
I think this works now -

"aygv:let @* = substitute(@a, "\\_s\\+$", "", "")

thx so much!
-m

On Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 8:47:54 PM UTC-5, Tim Chase wrote:
>
> On 2020-01-15 17:29, M Kelly wrote: 
> > Hi, 
> > 
> > In visual-line mode when I yank to the * register and then outside 
> > of vim paste - I am getting a newline at the end of the selection. 
> > This does not happen in visual block or char mode. 
> > Does anyone know of a way to load into * reg the same selection but 
> > have the last newline trimmed off ? 
> > ie something like: 
> > let @* = substitute(@a, "\(.*\)\\n/\1/", "", "") 
>
> Pretty sure you're 99% of the way there: 
>
>  let @+ = substitute(@a, '\n\+$', '', '') 
>
> If you want all potential trailing whitespace (spaces, tabs, and 
> newlines) 
>
>  let @+ = substitute(@a, '\_s\+$', '', '') 
>
> should do the trick. 
>
> -tim 
>
>
>
>

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Re: substitute() regex trim last newline from register ?

[M Kelly]

Tony, hi

ok, thanks.  I can use 0 v $ y.  But V y is handy/quick ...
Inside of vim its all great, V works perfectly - its just I wanted to 
automatically remove the last newline from "* if possible, 
so that a V y and then outside of vim paste doesn't have the extra newline.
I just wondered if I could regex trim the last newline of "* or of "a and 
put it into "*

thanks always for your help,
-m

On Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 8:44:44 PM UTC-5, Tony Mechelynck wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 2:29 AM M Kelly > 
> wrote: 
> > 
> > Hi, 
> > 
> > In visual-line mode when I yank to the * register and then outside of 
> vim paste - I am getting a newline at the end of the selection. 
> > This does not happen in visual block or char mode. 
> > Does anyone know of a way to load into * reg the same selection but have 
> the last newline trimmed off ? 
> > ie something like: 
> > let @* = substitute(@a, "\(.*\)\\n/\1/", "", "") 
> > 
> > thx for everything vim, 
> > -m 
>
> When yanking linewise, what you get is lines, and each of them has a 
> proper end-of-line. This way, when you paste it, it will be pasted 
> linewise, with line breaks between it and whatever happens before and 
> after it. 
>
> To yank without an end-of-line at the end, yank characterwise from the 
> first character of the first desired line (or from the first character 
> you want to yank even if it is in the middle of a line) to the last 
> character you want to yank. This way, if you paste in the middle of a 
> line, you won't get line breaks before and after the pasted text. 
>
> See also :help setreg() 
>
> Best regards, 
> Tony. 
>

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substitute() regex trim last newline from register ?

[M Kelly]

Hi,

In visual-line mode when I yank to the * register and then outside of vim 
paste - I am getting a newline at the end of the selection.
This does not happen in visual block or char mode.
Does anyone know of a way to load into * reg the same selection but have 
the last newline trimmed off ?
ie something like:
let @* = substitute(@a, "\(.*\)\\n/\1/", "", "")

thx for everything vim,
-m

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Re: substitute() regex trim last newline from register ?

[M Kelly]

Tony, hi

I ended up using getregtype("*") along with the @*=substitute() to get a 
perfect solution for my use.
Thank you again for this info.

take care,
-m

On Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 11:53:24 PM UTC-5, Tony Mechelynck wrote:
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> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 3:08 AM M Kelly > 
> wrote: 
> > 
> > Tony, hi 
> > 
> > ok, thanks.  I can use 0 v $ y.  But V y is handy/quick ... 
> > Inside of vim its all great, V works perfectly - its just I wanted to 
> automatically remove the last newline from "* if possible, 
> > so that a V y and then outside of vim paste doesn't have the extra 
> newline. 
> > I just wondered if I could regex trim the last newline of "* or of "a 
> and put it into "* 
> > 
> > thanks always for your help, 
> > -m 
>
> What's wrong with 
> :call setreg('*', getreg('*'), 'c') 
> (see "see also" at he end of my previous message)? 
>
> Best regards, 
> Tony. 
> > 
> > On Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 8:44:44 PM UTC-5, Tony Mechelynck 
> wrote: 
> >> 
> >> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 2:29 AM M Kelly  wrote: 
> >> > 
> >> > Hi, 
> >> > 
> >> > In visual-line mode when I yank to the * register and then outside of 
> vim paste - I am getting a newline at the end of the selection. 
> >> > This does not happen in visual block or char mode. 
> >> > Does anyone know of a way to load into * reg the same selection but 
> have the last newline trimmed off ? 
> >> > ie something like: 
> >> > let @* = substitute(@a, "\(.*\)\\n/\1/", "", "") 
> >> > 
> >> > thx for everything vim, 
> >> > -m 
> >> 
> >> When yanking linewise, what you get is lines, and each of them has a 
> >> proper end-of-line. This way, when you paste it, it will be pasted 
> >> linewise, with line breaks between it and whatever happens before and 
> >> after it. 
> >> 
> >> To yank without an end-of-line at the end, yank characterwise from the 
> >> first character of the first desired line (or from the first character 
> >> you want to yank even if it is in the middle of a line) to the last 
> >> character you want to yank. This way, if you paste in the middle of a 
> >> line, you won't get line breaks before and after the pasted text. 
> >> 
> >> See also :help setreg() 
> >> 
> >> Best regards, 
> >> Tony. 
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Re: 3-LeftMouse ques

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Hi,

I think I can work around it, but I suppose I was asking if these events 
are like a key mapping with ttimeoutlen etc.
Like if we received 2 events but not the 3rd in a small amout of time then 
it does the 2 mapping and if it receives the 3rd within the timeout then it 
does the 3 mapping ?

thx,
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Re: vmap inline conditional ques

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Andy, hi

Wow, so cool.
All I can say is incredible.
I learn so much from the great people and replies here.

take care,
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Re: vmap inline conditional ques

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Thank you again Andy.  I'm going to refactor some of my other routines now that 
I learned your better way to do these sort of things.
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vmap inline conditional ques

[M Kelly]

Hi,

Is there a way to do an inline conditional such as for demonstration:

vnoremap':let [line_start, col_start] = 
getpos("v")[1:2]  :let [line_end, col_end] = getpos(".")[1:2] 
 (line_end > line_start) ? "ge" : "b"'

I can do something in a function but that has several exe 'normal ...' 
statements and thus does not draw smoothly.
It seems I cannot get past the :let part.

thx for any help and everything vim,
stay safe everyone during this mess,
-m

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new from nofile ?

[M Kelly]

Hi again,

If my buftype=nofile then I cannot seem to create a new window with new or 
vnew, ok.
I can change my buftype and then call new.
Is there a special way to create a new regular buffer in a split from a 
nofile buffer ?
Or a way to restore the old buftype for the orig buffer right after 
changing it and issuing the new ?

thx, take care,
-m

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Re: new from nofile ?

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Hi,

ok, I think I can use:

call setbufvar(prev_bufid, "", "nofile")

to set it back.

thx,
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Re: visual select in Co mode ?

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Hi,

To be clear I do not mean the colour of highlighing anything in the 
command-line.
I mean highlighing other text above the command-line.
Like for example if you were to enter command-mode with a '/' and then use 
the mouse to highlight some text above to then paste in the command-line.

thx,
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visual select in Co mode ?

[M Kelly]

Hi,

My visual selection works great in normal, visual and insert modes, but 
when I enter command mode via a '/' or ':' then I can no longer select with 
the mouse the same way.
It seems as tho I am using x selection (ie like shift+mouse) instead of 
visual selection.
I tried changing imaps to lmaps but no difference.
Is this expected / the way it must be ?

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Re: visual select in Co mode ?

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Hi,

What colour would the highlighting be when in command-mode ?
It is not the same as hi Visual setting.

thx,
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Re: visual select in Co mode ?

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Hi,

Thank you Tony.

-m

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Re: visual select in Co mode ?

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Hi,

I added:

set clipboard^=autoselectml guioptions+=A

and now I can drag/double click and paste to the command-line.

Would be cool if the highlight colour matched visual but no problem :-)

thanks again always for all your great info and help,
-m

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Re: visual mode popup menu ?

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Andy, hi

I think it does work if I add the exe normal gv in the popup func.
cool!

thx,
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Re: visual mode popup menu ?

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Andy, hi again

I was thinking of something like -

call popup_menu(g:menulist, #{ title: 'MyMenuTitle:', filter: 
'MyFilter', callback: 'MyCallback' })

I would highlight some code and then press a key to trigger the popup menu 
and select some option from that menu,
but when the menu pops I didn't want to lose the visual highlighting.
Perhaps I can do something like exe normal gv as part of the popup ??

I wasn't thinking of vmenu - is that available at the cursor location ?  I 
will read up on it.

take care,
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visual mode popup menu ?

[M Kelly]

Hi,

Is there a way to be in visual mode with some text highlighted and popup a 
menu and keep the highlighted text during and after the popup menu ?

thx,
-m

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clipbaord internals ques

[M Kelly]

Hi,

Just curious, what is the mechanism by which vim saves to the clipboard ?
For example if I am on a X11 system but in termnal vim and I have clipboard 
set to unnamed
and I highlight in visual mode some lines and then y(ank) them - does vim 
use OSC 52 ?
Or does it (even tho its the terminal) use X11 to update the PRIMARY ?
I will try to figure this out from the code but just wondered if anyone 
knew this already.

thx as always for all things vim,
-m

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popup_menu and mouse item select ??

[M Kelly]

Hi,

When using popup_menu / popup_create, is it possible to use the mouse to 
select an item ?
My filter has:
```
if a:key == 'q' || a:key == 'x' || a:key == '\' || a:key == 
'\'
call popup_close(a:id, 0)
return 1
elseif a:key == "\"
```
But I never receive the mouse key event/selection.  I can close the menu on 
the 'X' with a click.
I was figuring if I received a mouse 'key' then I could get the geom and 
calclate which item was chosen ?
Is this even possible ?

thx for any help, as always, to everyone in the vim community,
-m

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Re: viminfo do not save registers, but clipboard still set at startup ?

[M Kelly]

Hi,
Tony, thanks always for your info.

My point is the X11 selection and clipboard are empty and my viminfo does 
not contain any register info, yet after starting vim the + and * regsiters 
contain info.
This seems a bit odd to me since:
1). I did not save register info and I've confirmed my viminfo does not 
have any register info in it.
2). the X11 selection and clipboard were empty before starting vim and I've 
comfirmed that via xsel/xclip/etc.
It just seems a mystery to me how these two registers get filled.
I'll keep looking, even if just for my own curiosity :-)
If you clear out your X11 selection and primary and then start vim without 
a viminfo, are your * and + set with some info ?
It must be some other history/undo or something I am missing.
take care,
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