Re: [Vo]:Faraday's disc generator
It depends what you mean by a field. If you imagine the field is made of wire-like filaments which are fastened to an atom then you would expect the field to translate and rotate whenever the atom translates and rotates. On the other hand if you imagine the field is a vector field then the field never really needs to move. Instead the direction of the magnitude of the vector at each point in space updates as the atom moves through that vector space. The way the vector field changes as the atom rotates and translates gives the appearance of a field that is moving as if it were fastened to the atom. Harry On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 1:41 PM Robin wrote: > In reply to H L V's message of Tue, 5 Mar 2024 09:28:31 -0500: > Hi, > > You don't need an experiment to figure this out. The field obviously > rotates with the magnet. > This is because the field is not a single entity. It is the sum of all the > tiny fields created by the electrons attached > to individual atoms, so when the magnet rotates, the atoms all move, > taking their individual fields with them. We know > they do this because when the magnet is moved sideways, instead of > rotating, the field moves sideways as well. IOW, the > atomic fields are attached to their individual atoms. There is no reason > this should change when rotation is involved > rather than translation. > > [snip] > >Resolving the paradox of unipolar induction: new experimental evidence on > >the influence of the test circuit (Free to download. Published 2022) > >https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-21155-x > Regards, > > Robin van Spaandonk > > Drive your electric car every second day and recharge it from solar panels > on your roof on the alternate days. > The other days, drive your spouses car, and do the same with it. > >
Re: [Vo]:Faraday's disc generator
In reply to H L V's message of Tue, 5 Mar 2024 09:28:31 -0500: Hi, You don't need an experiment to figure this out. The field obviously rotates with the magnet. This is because the field is not a single entity. It is the sum of all the tiny fields created by the electrons attached to individual atoms, so when the magnet rotates, the atoms all move, taking their individual fields with them. We know they do this because when the magnet is moved sideways, instead of rotating, the field moves sideways as well. IOW, the atomic fields are attached to their individual atoms. There is no reason this should change when rotation is involved rather than translation. [snip] >Resolving the paradox of unipolar induction: new experimental evidence on >the influence of the test circuit (Free to download. Published 2022) >https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-21155-x Regards, Robin van Spaandonk Drive your electric car every second day and recharge it from solar panels on your roof on the alternate days. The other days, drive your spouses car, and do the same with it.
Re: [Vo]:Faraday's disc generator
Instead of measuring voltages, another approach would be to measure how the entire assembly moves in response to the various relative rotations. In order to observe such effects, the entire assembly should be self contained so that it is free to slide over a level surface. The relative rotation of the disc and magnets within the assembly should create a force that would cause the assembly to deviate from a linear path. Harry On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 9:29 AM H L V wrote: > Resolving the paradox of unipolar induction: new experimental evidence on > the influence of the test circuit (Free to download. Published 2022) > https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-21155-x > > This is an interesting paper from experimental point view. The authors > designed the test circuit so that it could rotate with the disc or magnet > instead of remaining stationary. > > > Harry >
[Vo]:Faraday's disc generator
Resolving the paradox of unipolar induction: new experimental evidence on the influence of the test circuit (Free to download. Published 2022) https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-21155-x This is an interesting paper from experimental point view. The authors designed the test circuit so that it could rotate with the disc or magnet instead of remaining stationary. Harry