Re: [vox-tech] Debian stable-unstable, mozilla won't run
Cool! It's working! Problem was the Java shared library plugin in the Mozilla plugins directory (/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins). Thanks to Peter for suggesting using strace (it works, despite all my grumblings every single time I use it... =P) -Mark On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, Mark K. Kim wrote: Hi. I decided to move from Debian stable to unstable. It was a one heinous butcher job. The dependencies are totally incoherent, and conflicts are everywhere. I'm starting to regret my decision to move from stable to unstable. Grr... Anyway, I decided to give unstable some more time. I got most of the system the way I need it, except I have NO graphical browser. Mozilla and Konqueror just silently die, with no traceable log. Galeon won't install because of Gnome 1 vs. 2 conflict. Does anyone know how to solve this problem? Thanks! -Mark -- Mark K. Kim AIM: markus kimius Homepage: http://www.cbreak.org/ Xanga: http://www.xanga.com/vindaci Friendster: http://www.friendster.com/user.jsp?id=13046 PGP key fingerprint: 7324 BACA 53AD E504 A76E 5167 6822 94F0 F298 5DCE PGP key available on the homepage ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech -- Mark K. Kim AIM: markus kimius Homepage: http://www.cbreak.org/ Xanga: http://www.xanga.com/vindaci Friendster: http://www.friendster.com/user.jsp?id=13046 PGP key fingerprint: 7324 BACA 53AD E504 A76E 5167 6822 94F0 F298 5DCE PGP key available on the homepage ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
[vox-tech] X fonts too small!
Okay. So after migrating to unstable from stable, I'm enjoying this whole new anti-aliased fonts under X apps (all GTK apps, I think.) But the fonts are a bit too small. Is there a way to change the default font for GTK apps? (fonts for the menu-bar and such.) On a related note, my migration has left gnome and qt completely in non-working state. Both QT and Gnome have too many dependency conflicts, and the dependencies are broken, too. Thankfully I don't use QT or Gnome as my primary window manager, but still this is s annoying... A man~... -Mark -- Mark K. Kim AIM: markus kimius Homepage: http://www.cbreak.org/ Xanga: http://www.xanga.com/vindaci Friendster: http://www.friendster.com/user.jsp?id=13046 PGP key fingerprint: 7324 BACA 53AD E504 A76E 5167 6822 94F0 F298 5DCE PGP key available on the homepage ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] X fonts too small!
mark,
for gtk 1.x applications you control font info through ~/.gtkrc.
example:
style default
{
font = -*-arial-medium-r-*-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-15
}
for gtk 2.x applications, use ~/.gtkrc-2.0.
example:
gtk-font-name = Garmond 15
it's kind of annoying, isn't it? you kind of wish they'd just use
.Xdefaults, but no. we get another dotfile.
as far as gnome goes, i'd uninstall the whole thing and reinstall it.
pete
On Tue 20 Jan 04, 1:51 AM, Mark K. Kim [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Okay. So after migrating to unstable from stable, I'm enjoying this whole
new anti-aliased fonts under X apps (all GTK apps, I think.) But the
fonts are a bit too small. Is there a way to change the default font for
GTK apps? (fonts for the menu-bar and such.)
On a related note, my migration has left gnome and qt completely in
non-working state. Both QT and Gnome have too many dependency conflicts,
and the dependencies are broken, too. Thankfully I don't use QT or Gnome
as my primary window manager, but still this is s annoying...
A man~...
-Mark
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[vox-tech] spams originating from my friends server
Hi, One my friend has a server with some limited number of hosting. He is managing the whole server through CPanel. Now he is getting complaints from various people that lots of spam is coming from his server. Now the question is 1. How to trace which user is sending these spams? 2. How to stop it. Additional Info : Server Redhat 9.0 Mail Server : Exim SMTP port is blocked already Any inputs are welcome. Karthikeyan B ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] X fonts too small!
There is a little gui to switch your gtk themes, including fonts, which
then auto-writes the files Pete mentions below. For gtk2, it's called
switch2, and I'm sure there is another for gtk1 (probably switch1 or
something). I'm guessing you can apt-get it in Debian. I like it
because you can preview the theme before applying it.
Jonathan
Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
mark,
for gtk 1.x applications you control font info through ~/.gtkrc.
example:
style default
{
font = -*-arial-medium-r-*-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-15
}
for gtk 2.x applications, use ~/.gtkrc-2.0.
example:
gtk-font-name = Garmond 15
it's kind of annoying, isn't it? you kind of wish they'd just use
.Xdefaults, but no. we get another dotfile.
as far as gnome goes, i'd uninstall the whole thing and reinstall it.
pete
On Tue 20 Jan 04, 1:51 AM, Mark K. Kim [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Okay. So after migrating to unstable from stable, I'm enjoying this whole
new anti-aliased fonts under X apps (all GTK apps, I think.) But the
fonts are a bit too small. Is there a way to change the default font for
GTK apps? (fonts for the menu-bar and such.)
On a related note, my migration has left gnome and qt completely in
non-working state. Both QT and Gnome have too many dependency conflicts,
and the dependencies are broken, too. Thankfully I don't use QT or Gnome
as my primary window manager, but still this is s annoying...
A man~...
-Mark
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Re: [vox-tech] X fonts too small!
DOH!!! i wish you had posted this a year ago. ;-)
pete
On Tue 20 Jan 04, 7:56 AM, Jonathan Stickel wrote:
There is a little gui to switch your gtk themes, including fonts, which
then auto-writes the files Pete mentions below. For gtk2, it's called
switch2, and I'm sure there is another for gtk1 (probably switch1 or
something). I'm guessing you can apt-get it in Debian. I like it
because you can preview the theme before applying it.
Jonathan
Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
mark,
for gtk 1.x applications you control font info through ~/.gtkrc.
example:
style default
{
font = -*-arial-medium-r-*-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-15
}
for gtk 2.x applications, use ~/.gtkrc-2.0.
example:
gtk-font-name = Garmond 15
it's kind of annoying, isn't it? you kind of wish they'd just use
.Xdefaults, but no. we get another dotfile.
as far as gnome goes, i'd uninstall the whole thing and reinstall it.
pete
On Tue 20 Jan 04, 1:51 AM, Mark K. Kim [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Okay. So after migrating to unstable from stable, I'm enjoying this whole
new anti-aliased fonts under X apps (all GTK apps, I think.) But the
fonts are a bit too small. Is there a way to change the default font for
GTK apps? (fonts for the menu-bar and such.)
On a related note, my migration has left gnome and qt completely in
non-working state. Both QT and Gnome have too many dependency conflicts,
and the dependencies are broken, too. Thankfully I don't use QT or Gnome
as my primary window manager, but still this is s annoying...
A man~...
-Mark
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Re: [vox-tech] spams originating from my friends server
Quoting karthikeyan.balasubramanian ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): One my friend has a server with some limited number of hosting. He is managing the whole server through CPanel. Now he is getting complaints from various people that lots of spam is coming from his server. Your friend's logical first step is to request copies of the offending e-mails _with full headers_. People often fail to comprehend the latter phrase, or are so unable to use their own mail user agents that they prove hapless to comply, so that first step can be a challenge. Once he is in possession of some sample e-mails, the next step is to analyse SMTP headers to determine the mail's origin. If your friend doesn't yet know how to do that, he's behind the curve and needs to catch up. (What I mean is that it's a prerequisite knack for anyone running an MTA, for reasons your friend is now finding out.) The alt.spam FAQ's tutorial on the subject is as good as any: http://digital.net/~gandalf/spamfaq.html#item2 Often, it turns out that the complainant is fundamentally mistaken, and the offending mail never went anywhere near your MTA. People frequently file mistaken reports of this nature because they credulously believe forged From: and similar headers, having themselves never learned header analysis. Spammers and creators of malware software typically cause headers to be forged in order to evade responsibility and shift all blame onto others (such as your friend). Once the mail's IP address of origin has been narrowed down, your friend may no longer bear responsibility for the mail at all. Alternatively, if it _did_ enter the SMTP stream at his host, he can examine his logs to find out from whom, how, and when. SMTP port is blocked already The above is a bit vague. Blocked from where? Surely it isn't blocked from localhost, for example. -- Cheers, Rick Moen vi is my shepherd; I shall not font. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Psalm 0.1 beta ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
[vox-tech] sending mail from shell
What is the program/package which provides the 'mail' command that can be used to send simple emails from shell? It must be very basic, but my gentoo install is missing it. Jonathan ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] spams originating from my friends server
On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 08:37:31AM -0800, Rick Moen wrote: Often, it turns out that the complainant is fundamentally mistaken, and the offending mail never went anywhere near your MTA. People frequently file mistaken reports of this nature because they credulously believe forged From: and similar headers, having themselves never learned header analysis. Spammers and creators of malware software typically cause headers to be forged in order to evade responsibility and shift all blame onto others (such as your friend). When I checked my email this morning, I was greeted with what must have been about 200 bounced messages. Spams which someone sent, and used one of my addresses as the From: line. So, when the spams hit tons of nonexistant or blocking addresses, _I_ ended up with them in my inbox. Thankfully, I check my email on my ISP, so I don't have to download all of that junk. Also, I use Mutt, so it was easy to hit [L]imit, type failure, and then hold the [D]elete key down for a few seconds to wipe 'em out. Still pretty damned irritating. One day I might become one of those tech-geek-hermits who never use e-mail. (KIDDING) ;^) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] sending mail from shell
On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 09:01:25AM -0800, Jonathan Stickel wrote: What is the program/package which provides the 'mail' command that can be used to send simple emails from shell? It must be very basic, but my gentoo install is missing it. I typically use 'sendmail'. When I sent out LUGOD announcements (which go to more than just vox-announce, but also to other LUG lists, newspapers, etc.), I run a little shell script that goes through a list of email addresses (in lugod.list), and sends each address a message which comes from another text file (lugod.txt). I invoke /usr/sbin/sendmail on my ISP's shell to do it. Works great! I think you can also use mail. I forget when and why I switched. I'm really far from an expert in this kinda stuff ;) -bill! [EMAIL PROTECTED] Got kids? Get Tux Paint! http://newbreedsoftware.com/bill/ http://newbreedsoftware.com/tuxpaint/ ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] sending mail from shell
If you or your isp use q-mail, you can use qmail-inject in a very similar way...via scripts or directly from the command line. I always imagined that mail was a wrapper to /your/path/to/sendmail anyway, but I just did a _man mail_ on the system I'm on, and it occurs to be it's own program. It's also a binary file, but that doesn't rule out the possibility that it is a wrapper. Dave On Tue, 20 Jan 2004, Bill Kendrick wrote: On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 09:01:25AM -0800, Jonathan Stickel wrote: What is the program/package which provides the 'mail' command that can be used to send simple emails from shell? It must be very basic, but my gentoo install is missing it. I typically use 'sendmail'. When I sent out LUGOD announcements (which go to more than just vox-announce, but also to other LUG lists, newspapers, etc.), I run a little shell script that goes through a list of email addresses (in lugod.list), and sends each address a message which comes from another text file (lugod.txt). I invoke /usr/sbin/sendmail on my ISP's shell to do it. Works great! I think you can also use mail. I forget when and why I switched. I'm really far from an expert in this kinda stuff ;) -bill! [EMAIL PROTECTED] Got kids? Get Tux Paint! http://newbreedsoftware.com/bill/ http://newbreedsoftware.com/tuxpaint/ ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] sending mail from shell
On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 11:10:27AM -0800, Bill Kendrick wrote: On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 09:01:25AM -0800, Jonathan Stickel wrote: What is the program/package which provides the 'mail' command that can be used to send simple emails from shell? I typically use 'sendmail'. I think the package Jonathan is after is mailx, which contains the original UNIX mail program. -David ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] sending mail from shell
On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 09:01:25AM -0800, Jonathan Stickel wrote: What is the program/package which provides the 'mail' command that can be used to send simple emails from shell? It must be very basic, but my gentoo install is missing it. Jonathan ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech You need to emerge mailx Oddly, I don't even see a sendmail on my system(usually its just a symlink to whatever MTA in use) However mailx should be functionally equiv to the mail command on unix systems. Mike ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
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On Tue, 20 Jan 2004, Jonathan Stickel wrote: What is the program/package which provides the 'mail' command that can be used to send simple emails from shell? It must be very basic, but my gentoo install is missing it. mailx - mail user agent package interface between people/high-level applications and mail transport system mailx may be invoked as mail, mailx, or Mail comparable functions: pine, mutt, evolution (though none of these handle stream input well like mailx does) sendmail - mail transport agent typically accepts mail through pipes or smtp connections handles header normalization and mail routing functions comparable functions: exim, qmail, Microsoft Exchange --- Jeff NewmillerThe . . Go Live... DCN:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Basics: ##.#. ##.#. Live Go... Live: OO#.. Dead: OO#.. Playing Research Engineer (Solar/BatteriesO.O#. #.O#. with /Software/Embedded Controllers) .OO#. .OO#. rocks...2k --- ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
[vox-tech] Kiosk
Bill, Is Java running on that kiosk in the coffee shop, If support is enabled continue, if not, you can ignore the post. write java app and post on website to class.exec(/usr/X11R6/bin/xterm) since im not sure if java/applets obey the kde/konqueror restrictions on access. since those are part of kderc and not actual permissions This would be possible for any scripting language that is not handled by konqueror explicitly, including activex if you felt masochistic ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] sending mail from shell
David Hummel wrote: On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 11:10:27AM -0800, Bill Kendrick wrote: On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 09:01:25AM -0800, Jonathan Stickel wrote: What is the program/package which provides the 'mail' command that can be used to send simple emails from shell? I typically use 'sendmail'. I think the package Jonathan is after is mailx, which contains the original UNIX mail program. Yes, this is exactly what I wanted. Thanks! Jonathan ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] X fonts too small!
On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 07:56:02AM -0800, Jonathan Stickel wrote: There is a little gui to switch your gtk themes, including fonts, which then auto-writes the files Pete mentions below. For gtk2, it's called switch2, and I'm sure there is another for gtk1 (probably switch1 or something). I'm guessing you can apt-get it in Debian. I like it because you can preview the theme before applying it. apt-get install gtk-theme-switch:-) Includes both switch and switch2 ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] spams originating from my friends server
On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 11:08:21AM -0800, Bill Kendrick wrote: Thankfully, I check my email on my ISP, so I don't have to download all of that junk. Also, I use Mutt, so it was easy to hit [L]imit, type failure, and then hold the [D]elete key down for a few seconds to wipe 'em out. Or in one step as [D]elete-patern failure (as opposed to [d]elete) Also probably quicker than your limit as [T]ag-pattern [;](apply next function to all tagged messages) [d]elete That's the power of programs with more features you can ever remember... ;-) ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Kiosk
On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 05:14:00AM -0800, Hans W. Uhlig wrote: Bill, Is Java running on that kiosk in the coffee shop, If support is enabled continue, if not, you can ignore the post. I didn't install any Java VM specifically, but could be. I'll check. :^) write java app and post on website to class.exec(/usr/X11R6/bin/xterm) snip Scary, but, uh... I thought the whole point of Java (at least in a browser) was to make this IMPOSSIBLE. Either that, or Sun lied to me back when I first learned about Java, 20 years ago, or whenever it was I was in college. ;^) BTW - I'm currently removing all of the Open With... options. One way would be to wipe out the /usr/share/applnk/ hierarchy, as someone mentioned last night. However, the KDE stuff on the kiosk is coming from Debian packages, and therefore wiping out stuff would only last until the next upgrade. :^) (KDE 3.2 due February!) So, instead, I'm just making a bunch of *.desktop files in the guest account's KDE directory, which include Hidden=true. Seems to be wiping them out nicely! -bill! [EMAIL PROTECTED] Got kids? Get Tux Paint! http://newbreedsoftware.com/bill/ http://newbreedsoftware.com/tuxpaint/ ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] X fonts too small!
Muhahahaha perfect. I *like* Debian unstable (singing a different
tune...)
The Gnome/KDE issues seemed to be because I didn't sync dselect with
apt-get. After updating the list on dselect, and installing the gnome
package, everything seems to be coherent and working. Haven't checked KDE
but I'm sure it won't be hard getting that working too. Serves me right
for not realizing sooner that dselect needs its own list updating...
Thanks Peter Jonathan!
-Mark
PS: Ah... Anacron just sent me a complaint saying it died while
rotating logs. A curses to Debian unstable!!! heh... lol... ^_^;
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
mark,
for gtk 1.x applications you control font info through ~/.gtkrc.
example:
style default
{
font = -*-arial-medium-r-*-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-15
}
for gtk 2.x applications, use ~/.gtkrc-2.0.
example:
gtk-font-name = Garmond 15
it's kind of annoying, isn't it? you kind of wish they'd just use
.Xdefaults, but no. we get another dotfile.
as far as gnome goes, i'd uninstall the whole thing and reinstall it.
pete
On Tue 20 Jan 04, 1:51 AM, Mark K. Kim [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Okay. So after migrating to unstable from stable, I'm enjoying this whole
new anti-aliased fonts under X apps (all GTK apps, I think.) But the
fonts are a bit too small. Is there a way to change the default font for
GTK apps? (fonts for the menu-bar and such.)
On a related note, my migration has left gnome and qt completely in
non-working state. Both QT and Gnome have too many dependency conflicts,
and the dependencies are broken, too. Thankfully I don't use QT or Gnome
as my primary window manager, but still this is s annoying...
A man~...
-Mark
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Re: [vox-tech] amd64
On Sun, Jan 18, 2004 at 02:59:09AM -0800, Bill Broadley wrote: Things are going well, one came with redhat-9 which worked with new problems, the leading contenders seem to be Fedora, RHEL, and SUSE. Gentoo has a live cd. I know debian has a project, not sure how mature it is. If my vague memory serves I believe freebsd-5.2 or similar has opteron support. I know nothing about amd64 or Debian's project, but I ran across this today, and thought it might be of interest. The Debian GNU/Linux AMD64 HOWTO: http://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/1314/21/debian-amd64-howto.html ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] sending mail from shell
På tisdag, 20 januari 2004, skrev Michael J Wenk: On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 09:01:25AM -0800, Jonathan Stickel wrote: What is the program/package which provides the 'mail' command that can be used to send simple emails from shell? It must be very basic, but my gentoo install is missing it. Jonathan ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech You need to emerge mailx Oddly, I don't even see a sendmail on my system(usually its just a symlink to whatever MTA in use) However mailx should be functionally equiv to the mail command on unix systems. True, with one important difference: mailx supports escapes (special commands in the stream, entered after a tilde). This is useful for interactive use (but most folks perfer mutt, Evolution, etc) and downright dangerous when handling arbitrary streams of input. In such cases you should use sendmail, perhaps via a wrapper script, or directly like this: $/usr/sbin/sendmail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: your subject here other headers as needed message body control-d This is particularly important in web form-to-mail scripts. -- Henry House The unintelligible text that may follow is a digital signature. See http://hajhouse.org/pgp for information. My OpenPGP key: http://hajhouse.org/hajhouse.asc. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
