Re: [vox-tech] truetype fonts under gnome
On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 11:51:46PM -0700, nbs wrote: > On Wed, May 29, 2002 at 02:43:43AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I'm interested in the delay problem you are having... if you are _not_ > > restarting the xfstt process you shouldn't have problems. > > I'd check to see if xfstt is running. If it is not, I start it, then > I restart X. xfstt shouldn't be aborting, it's supposed to start up and stay up (like apache). I've glanced around the source code and don't see any logging mechanism, so to figure out what is happening on your system to hurt xfstt I would need you font pack (from /usr/share/fonts/truetype) or access to your machine. > > - What things are you doing when you notice lag or the session vanishing? > > Clicking on the Terminal or [Gnome Foot] -> Programs -> Utilities -> Font Sel. I've tried repeating this step about 20 times, and can't reproduce a problem here, I installed the msttcorefonts and that single additional Garton font you were having a problem with. If we can figure out what is causing xfstt to go away that will fix your problem... ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] truetype fonts under gnome
On Wed, May 29, 2002 at 02:43:43AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I'm interested in the delay problem you are having... if you are _not_ > restarting the xfstt process you shouldn't have problems. I'd check to see if xfstt is running. If it is not, I start it, then I restart X. The exact symptom is that applications take a long time to load (or don't before the X server dies). This includes gnome-terminal and gfontsel... > - What things are you doing when you notice lag or the session vanishing? Clicking on the Terminal or [Gnome Foot] -> Programs -> Utilities -> Font Sel. :) > My guess is xfstt plays much like apache (there is one master parent > who runs as root, which forks a client process which switches to a > dummy user to actually do the work for client connections). So the > two processes is normal. Ok, cool. :) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] truetype fonts under gnome
On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 11:11:36PM -0700, nbs wrote: > On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 11:03:45PM -0700, nbs wrote: > > On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 07:38:21PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > xfstt - Handles the Garton font perfectly. > > > (Gimp was tested, and works) > Hmm.. Although xfstt seems to spawn a second time, and the whole X session > seems pretty laggy, and sometimes vanishes. :^/ I'm interested in the delay problem you are having... if you are _not_ restarting the xfstt process you shouldn't have problems. - What things are you doing when you notice lag or the session vanishing? (from what I recall X doesn't handle the disappearance of it's font server very well, but in some testing today it appears to have gotten loads better, in that it used to lock solid when the font server goes away). > root 2208 0.0 1.2 1972 800 ?S23:08 0:00 /usr/X11R6/bin/xfstt >--port 7101 --daemon --user nobody > nobody2378 0.0 1.3 6588 832 ?S23:10 0:00 /usr/X11R6/bin/xfstt >--port 7101 --daemon --user nobody My guess is xfstt plays much like apache (there is one master parent who runs as root, which forks a client process which switches to a dummy user to actually do the work for client connections). So the two processes is normal. ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] truetype fonts under gnome
On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 11:11:36PM -0700, nbs wrote: > > Could be a particularly bad TTF :^P > > root 2208 0.0 1.2 1972 800 ?S23:08 0:00 /usr/X11R6/bin/xfstt >--port 7101 --daemon --user nobody > nobody2378 0.0 1.3 6588 832 ?S23:10 0:00 /usr/X11R6/bin/xfstt >--port 7101 --daemon --user nobody > Barf. Ok, xfstt was being mean to me, and I got sick of restarting X on Melissa's computer (not exactly the fastest machine, nor the most RAM). I'm sticking to X/freetype for now. It means the fonts she wanted to use won't work (at least until I try poking some more), but at least the MSTTcore stuff works. *blah* -bill! (forgetting if StarOffice even SUPPORTs TTF... I know it does Type1) ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] truetype fonts under gnome
On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 11:03:45PM -0700, nbs wrote: > On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 07:38:21PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > xfstt - Handles the Garton font perfectly. > > (Gimp was tested, and works) > > Enabling xfstt did the trick! Thanks! I guess freetype was more fussy or > buggy... > Hmm.. Although xfstt seems to spawn a second time, and the whole X session seems pretty laggy, and sometimes vanishes. :^/ Could be a particularly bad TTF :^P root 2208 0.0 1.2 1972 800 ?S23:08 0:00 /usr/X11R6/bin/xfstt --port 7101 --daemon --user nobody nobody2378 0.0 1.3 6588 832 ?S23:10 0:00 /usr/X11R6/bin/xfstt --port 7101 --daemon --user nobody -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] truetype fonts under gnome
On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 07:38:21PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > xfstt - Handles the Garton font perfectly. > (Gimp was tested, and works) Enabling xfstt did the trick! Thanks! I guess freetype was more fussy or buggy... -bill! (off to convince Star Office 5.2 to see these fonts, too) ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] truetype fonts under gnome
On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 03:17:07PM -0700, nbs wrote: > The other fonts, just some downloaded TTFs, work > fine under XFontSel, but don't get rendered > under GFontSel and Gimp. Instead, I just see the > text as if it were "Fixed" or "Clean" font... If you could give URLs and which ones don't work that would be helpful. > I'm using Debain Woody, XFree86 4, Gnome from Woody. > Fonts are beign handled by XF86-4 via the "freetype" > module (eg, not via a font server) What I've figured out is there are 5 different font engines available for X on Debian... I dug up the Garton font via a web search (have you paid your $6 shareware fee yet ;) Garton and the MS TTF font pack are working on the demo box with xfstt as the font server. I can forward you the magic config settings to make this work, if you are interested. I'm convinced there is something about the font itself that confuses some of the renderers... the bug is either in the renderers or the font. Bug reports should be probably be filed against the various renderers that do not work (until someone who knows can check and identify what is broken in the font itself). TTFN, Mike xfstt - Handles the Garton font perfectly. (Gimp was tested, and works) xfs-xtt - Does not handle the Garton font at all (both xfontsel and gfontsel broken) xfs - Half handles Garton (xfontsel works, gfontsel does not) X "freetype" module - behaves the same as "xfs" (half works) X "xtt" module - behaves as xfs-xtt (nothing works) xfstt has a few bonuses: it doesn't need .scale or .dir things, it will build it's own indices with --sync option, which "/etc/init.d/xfstt restart", does automatically. You also just need to specify a single directory it will automatically descend into subdirectories to find fonts. The "xtt" module, is extra special... it uses fonts.dir but is case sensitive and doesn't like '.TTF' files that everyone else does. Truetype files must end in ".ttf" ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
[vox-tech] truetype fonts under gnome
I followed some very nice instructions on the web: "TrueType Fonts on Debian XFree86 4.x Systems" ( http://www.paulandlesley.org/linux/xfree4_tt.html ) Part of the instructions were for installing Microsoft's "Core Fonts" package, and the other part were for installing non-packaged (Debian packaged) fonts; e.g. stuff you get off your MICROS~1 WINDOWS parition, or download off the 'net. The Windows core fonts work fine. I can access them from Gimp, I can see them in GFontSel and XFontSel. The other fonts, just some downloaded TTFs, work fine under XFontSel, but don't get rendered under GFontSel and Gimp. Instead, I just see the text as if it were "Fixed" or "Clean" font... I'm using Debain Woody, XFree86 4, Gnome from Woody. Fonts are beign handled by XF86-4 via the "freetype" module (eg, not via a font server) Thx! -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
