test

2003-08-29 Thread Matthew Healey

Just checking to make sure I didn't break something...

- Matt



Please disregard - test only

2003-08-29 Thread J Philippe Chaperon
Sorry about this test message, but I seem to be having some problem
receiving mail from the list.

Philippe C.



9 Mac browsers reviewed

2003-08-29 Thread Shay Telfer

http://arstechnica.com/reviews/003/software/mac/browser/mac-browsers-1.html

Have fun,
Shay
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TCP Port 113

2003-08-29 Thread Matthew Healey

Hi All,

I bit of a query for the more advanced users on the list.

I have just turned on the Firewall service under OSX Server to block 
all non-essential ports. While watching the logs I noticed a heap of 
hits from a seemingly random source port to port 113 on the server. 
IANA defines 113 as


auth113/tcp/udp Authentication Service

Does anyone know if something will die if I block this port?


- Matt

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Test (please ignore)

2003-08-29 Thread Paul Kitchener
Testing



Re: One nail to go...

2003-08-29 Thread David Watkins
Not really bad news in my opinion!

These days you can pick up good second hand PC for a few hundred
dollars and you will get far better performance than using
emulation on a Mac.

Networking a PC to a Mac is is easy to do with Mac OS X, you can
even share your Mac internet connection with the PC without too
much trouble and access those sites which I hear Mac people are
having problems with. Also has an additional benefit, you can use
the PC as a backup destination for for your Mac.

In this changing world of computers I do believe you will see the
end of Windows emulation before too long but it is not really a
concern anymore for Mac users.

Dave Watkins



At 8:21 AM +0800 28/8/03, Peter Hinchliffe said:

 Bad news from MacCentral this morning.

 http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/2003/08/27/realpc/

 A few months ago, FWB announced a MacOS X version of RealPC would be
 forthcoming. This now appears to have been vaporware. Check out the
 above link for the full story.

 Even worse, Micro$oft have announced that the current version of VPC
 will not run on the G5 at all. The code in the G4 upon which certain
 routines rely is not there in the G5, so those areas of VPC need to be
 re-written. I'm waiting for the day when they announce that it's no
 longer in their interests to do so...

 Anyone tried Bochs?

 --
 Peter Hinchliffe


Sleep and doze

2003-08-29 Thread Severin Crisp
I notice that my G4/400 has two distinct sleep modes.  When I put it 
to Sleep from the Apple menu everything goes off and the disks spin 
down as it should.  If I let time take its course the screen darkens 
and the disk spins down but the mouse tablet bezel remain illuminated 
indicating that USB is still active.  Is this documented or expected?

Severin Crisp
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Printing from VPC5

2003-08-29 Thread Severin Crisp
Annually I do my tax with e-Tax and VPC3 with no hassles.  This year 
I have upgraded to VPC5 and everything went smoothly until I tried to 
print my return for my records.  No way could I get it to print, 
either to the MacInkjet Printer or direct to my Epson SP720 printer 
whose Windows driver I downloaded from Epson and installed into 
Windows98.  In either case everything went smoothly and the printer 
finished up with a file in the queue which initiated the printer then 
stopped jobs and a Communications error for no apparent reason.
I tried all the obvious settings, unpluggings, cable jigglings and 
reboots with no success.
The cure was increasing the assigned PC memory from 145MB to 350MB, 
when all returned to normal and it happily prints.  As I rarely print 
from VPC this situation had not arisen before.

VPC5 users take note and save yourselves the hours I wasted!
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.Mac Mail and POP accounts trouble

2003-08-29 Thread Matt Tavani
I have a .Mac acct and would like to use .Mac web mail with my POP
account. This is possible but it seems to go away and import everything in
my POP account everytime I want to check for updated messages, rather than
just the messages since last check.

It sets all imported messages to Unread, every time, and to make things
worse, when I actually go back to OSX Mail at home, all the messages are
sitting in my Inbox twice (once for POP and once for the .Mac import)

Does anyone know of a way for .Mac web mail to act like other web based
POP checking accounts?

Apart from that I really like the .Mac web mail because it displays
messages sent from the web in a Sent folder back on my home machine.

Cheers, Matt

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Re: TCP Port 113

2003-08-29 Thread Shay Telfer

Hi All,

I bit of a query for the more advanced users on the list.

I have just turned on the Firewall service under OSX Server to block 
all non-essential ports. While watching the logs I noticed a heap of 
hits from a seemingly random source port to port 113 on the server. 
IANA defines 113 as


auth113/tcp/udp Authentication Service

Does anyone know if something will die if I block this port?


A brief googling reveals

Auth is used by IRC, (some) sendmail and shell servers, to (try) 
check identity of users logging in.


It does appear however that it may be an issue if it's used by 
servers receiving mail from the machine to (loosely) 'verify' 
everything's kosher...


http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/postfix/1999-q4/1840.html

Have fun,
Shay
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WestNet

2003-08-29 Thread Matthew Healey
Can someone on Westnet please confirm with me privately that they got 
this message and have not had any bounce messages over the last two 
days.


Thanks.


- Matt

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Applescript in a Nutshell

2003-08-29 Thread Bob Howells
Hi Everyone,

Wanted... a copy of Applescript in a Nutshell by O'Reilly.

Does anybody have a copy they wish to clear ?

Thanks

Bob



Re: in case colour co-ordination

2003-08-29 Thread Mark Secker



 to go with your cold neon lit, acrylic sided, Li Lian PC's no doubt:

 http://www.kingmax.com.tw/product/pro_ColorModule_index.htm

 seriously.


 LOL - though I s'pose you need to differentiate homogenous products
 some howshrug


And I thought it was getting ridiculous when a friend installed 4 little
fans with coloured lights set in them.

Of course, he needed the extra cooling ;)


yeh but did he have a Marvil Comics(tm) Wolverine(c.)  grill on those fans?
http://redeyepc.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PRODStore_Code=RPProduct_Code=FAN-02970-08

if not then how like last millennium dude!

I guess the first  case mod's I saw were cool and I've seen a few 
good ones recently were they fabricated up everything that wasn't off 
the shelf but now you can buy so many off the shelf moded cases its 
probably true to say next trend will be beige is the new hip.



Why do I look at these case mods and think :
Boris style barbarian with nubile wench airbrushed on to Sandman 
panelvan with red acrylic dome windows and velour waterbed in the 
back
- anyone not old enough to know what I mean by that ask your dad - 
when your mums not in the room.
1st one was cool and original  the 75'th million nock off copy was 
sign of brain addled retro boganhood.



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or so says a wise old programer...
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Griffin USB iMic

2003-08-29 Thread Paul Kitchener
Hi folk

I'm contemplating buying one of these:

http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/imic/index.html 

Has anyone any noteworthy experiences with these, can anyone supply
one(Daniel,Zytech)?

Thanks
Paul


  There is a Dog




Re: Any recommendations on USB KVM?

2003-08-29 Thread Jon Hunter
I am using a MasterView kvm switch that shares usb/monitor with 4 
devices, 2 XServes, 1 G4 and 1 G3/350 Server.
The G3 has a KeySpan usb card and occasionally will lose control 
(generally if the kvm is powered or if the G3 is restarted without the 
correct switch selected). The others work well but do take about 5 
seconds to respond.

Purchased from Desktop Applications about 18 months ago.

On Friday, August 29, 2003, at 11:14  AM, Richard Jenkins wrote:


Hi

We'd like to share the peripherals on a newish Compaq with a G4/933 
Mac running OS 9 and OS X. We're putting the G4 on our helpdesk so the 
staff can actually do some Mac support :)


The Compaq has an analogue SVGA LCD screen and USB keyboard and mouse.

From memory there's some complications switching USB devices - some of 
the reviews I've read note a 5+ second pause before the USB gear 
responds. Was it the DrBott KVM that suspended the USB bus and kept it 
active when you switched?...


All comments and personal experiences welcome.

cheers
®



Regards

Jon Hunter

Manager IST
Spowers
mob: 0413 484 208
direct: 08 9288 8511




archive?

2003-08-29 Thread Mark Secker

Do we have archives yet for posts sent to the new list?
When I click on the archives link at the bottom of the wamug posts it 
diverts back to the Yahoo site...


 nothing urgent - just noticed



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Re: Applescript in a Nutshell

2003-08-29 Thread Shay Telfer

Hi Everyone,

Wanted... a copy of Applescript in a Nutshell by O'Reilly.

Does anybody have a copy they wish to clear ?


If you're after some on-line documentation there's this

http://fischer-bayern.de/applescript/html/ebook.html

You may want to download the english version of the PDF if you don't 
happen to speak German :)


Also of course

http://www.apple.com/applescript/resources/

Have fun,
Shay
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Off the air

2003-08-29 Thread Severin Crisp
Since midmorning yesterday (Thursday) I have received no WAMUG 
postings and wonder what has happened.
Could some kind soul out there please reply to me direct off list and 
let me know if it is me or WAMUG then I can do something about it.

TIA
Severin
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 Fax  (08) 9842 9650  (Int'l +61 8 9842 9650)
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Colour postscript printer for sale

2003-08-29 Thread Greg Smith
Tektronix Phaser 340 printer. Four separate ink cartridges. Apple 
Talk or SCSI connection.

$70. Works well. E-mail or ph 0409 081 583. Scarborough.


Re: Any recommendations on USB KVM?

2003-08-29 Thread Matthew Healey


On Friday, 29 August 2003, at 1:54 PM, Jon Hunter wrote:

I am using a MasterView kvm switch that shares usb/monitor with 4 
devices, 2 XServes, 1 G4 and 1 G3/350 Server.
The G3 has a KeySpan usb card and occasionally will lose control 
(generally if the kvm is powered or if the G3 is restarted without the 
correct switch selected). The others work well but do take about 5 
seconds to respond.

Purchased from Desktop Applications about 18 months ago.

On Friday, August 29, 2003, at 11:14  AM, Richard Jenkins wrote:


Hi

We'd like to share the peripherals on a newish Compaq with a G4/933 
Mac running OS 9 and OS X. We're putting the G4 on our helpdesk so 
the staff can actually do some Mac support :)


The Compaq has an analogue SVGA LCD screen and USB keyboard and mouse.

From memory there's some complications switching USB devices - some 
of the reviews I've read note a 5+ second pause before the USB gear 
responds. Was it the DrBott KVM that suspended the USB bus and kept 
it active when you switched?...


All comments and personal experiences welcome.



I have a DrBott 4 Port USB/VGA switch for sale if you want it. It's 
about 6 months old. All the cables are there. $300. We replaced it with 
an 8 port version.


- Matt

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Re: archive?

2003-08-29 Thread Matthew Healey


On Friday, 29 August 2003, at 9:03 AM, Mark Secker wrote:


Do we have archives yet for posts sent to the new list?
When I click on the archives link at the bottom of the wamug posts it 
diverts back to the Yahoo site...


 nothing urgent - just noticed


The archive for the new list are at

http://mail.wamug.org.au:8100

- Matt

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Re: Off the air

2003-08-29 Thread Matthew Healey


On Friday, 29 August 2003, at 10:46 AM, Severin Crisp wrote:

Since midmorning yesterday (Thursday) I have received no WAMUG 
postings and wonder what has happened.
Could some kind soul out there please reply to me direct off list and 
let me know if it is me or WAMUG then I can do something about it.


Everything should be OK. I think I broke something yesterday when I 
upgraded the mail server software.


- Matt

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Re: TCP Port 113

2003-08-29 Thread Matthew Healey


On Friday, 29 August 2003, at 1:33 PM, Shay Telfer wrote:


Hi All,

I bit of a query for the more advanced users on the list.

I have just turned on the Firewall service under OSX Server to block 
all non-essential ports. While watching the logs I noticed a heap of 
hits from a seemingly random source port to port 113 on the server. 
IANA defines 113 as


auth113/tcp/udp Authentication Service

Does anyone know if something will die if I block this port?


A brief googling reveals

Auth is used by IRC, (some) sendmail and shell servers, to (try) 
check identity of users logging in.


It does appear however that it may be an issue if it's used by servers 
receiving mail from the machine to (loosely) 'verify' everything's 
kosher...


http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/postfix/1999-q4/1840.html


Thats pretty much the gist of what I got. I will leave the port open.

- Matt

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double posts

2003-08-29 Thread Phillip Arena

Hello, I'm getting double posts...anybody else?

Phil
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Site and iCal updated

2003-08-29 Thread Matthew Healey
Yes, it's amazing. I actually updated out web site and the WAMUG iCal! 
I need to sit down. I think I over stressed myself.


- Matt

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Re: Login details

2003-08-29 Thread Shay Telfer

Matthew
	I do not seem to be able to login to the archives.  It 
refuses my name and/or password and when I ask for it to be emailed 
to me I get the message that it has been removed to a remote server.

Could you please send me my login details in full.
many thanks - oh the trials of being a webmaster !!!
TIA
Sevewrin


Try just clicking the 'Mailing Lists' link and then clicking the 
WAMUG link. No login required.


Thanks,
Shay
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2003-08-29 Thread Matthew Healey

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Re: TCP Port 113

2003-08-29 Thread Ryan Jay Schotte
On 2003-08-29 15:03, Matthew Healey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Does anyone know if something will die if I block this port?
 
 A brief googling reveals
 
 Auth is used by IRC, (some) sendmail and shell servers, to (try)
 check identity of users logging in.
 
 It does appear however that it may be an issue if it's used by servers
 receiving mail from the machine to (loosely) 'verify' everything's
 kosher...
 
 http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/postfix/1999-q4/1840.html
 
 Thats pretty much the gist of what I got. I will leave the port open.

Well nothing should really die a horrible agonising death if it's closed,
unless there's something that can't survive without the ident protocol.

That said, your outgoing irc, mail and ftp connections may in some cases be
slowed down (because the servers have to wait for their attempted connection
to you to timeout) but aside from that, not too much else uses it. Some MUDs
have dealt with multiplayers behind NATs through supporting ident, but I
doubt that's an issue for you (and in my experience more trouble than it's
worth for the game administrators as well).

The identd server isn't even running by default on OS X -- not on my 10.2.6
machine anyway, OS X Server may differ ;) -- so those connections would time
out for me anyway.

If the mail delay becomes a problem, you could always add a rule to allow
just your mail server to connect to 113. Probably not worth it for ftp
servers et cetera though, unless you connect to one regularly that uses it.

My 2 cents (ex GST).

Ry
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Re: double posts

2003-08-29 Thread Ken Woods
Yes , I too am receiving double posts, but only spasmodically.

Ken W...


On 29/8/03 3:08 PM, Phillip Arena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello, I'm getting double posts...anybody else?
 
 Phil



Re: Login details

2003-08-29 Thread Reg Whitely
Me to Severin and Matt. Maybe I don't even know what my name is 
registered as, let alone the password. Is it the same as it was with 
Yahoo Groups?


Reg

On Friday, August 29, 2003, at 03:36 pm, Severin Crisp wrote:


Matthew
	I do not seem to be able to login to the archives.  It refuses my 
name and/or password and when I ask for it to be emailed to me I get 
the message that it has been removed to a remote server.

Could you please send me my login details in full.
many thanks - oh the trials of being a webmaster !!!
TIA
Sevewrin
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Re: double posts

2003-08-29 Thread Paul Troester

Same Here, also spasmodically.


On Friday, Aug 29, 2003, at 17:45 Australia/Perth, Ken Woods wrote:


Yes , I too am receiving double posts, but only spasmodically.

Ken W...


On 29/8/03 3:08 PM, Phillip Arena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello, I'm getting double posts...anybody else?

Phil



Regards, Paul

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