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[wendy.corrick--- via WAMUG]

   Hi All

   I am about to purchase a new MacBook Air.  I have had my current one
   since early 2017 and am finding it isn’t accepting updates of some
   programs.  I am having problems with ‘Photos’ in particular.

   Apart from the software it is in excellent condition.   Should I trade
   it in (I think Apple only offers about $140) or I think I’ve read
   someone on this list works their magic with old/unwanted computers and
   then passes them on to someone who can’t afford one?  True?   If this
   the case I would much prefer to go down this path. So if this is you
   could you reply?

   Best wishes

   Wendy

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   the land of the Whadjuk Noongar people.
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[WAMUG] MacBook Air purchase

[wendy.corrick--- via WAMUG]

   Hi All


   I am about to purchase a new MacBook Air.  I have had my current one
   since early 2017 and am finding it isn’t accepting updates of some
   programs.  I am having problems with ‘Photos’ in particular.


   It is in excellent condition, physically.  Should I trade it in (I
   think Apple only offers about $140) or I think I’ve read someone on
   this list works their magic with old/unwanted computers and then passes
   them on to someone who can’t afford one?  True?   If this the case I
   would much prefer to go down this path. So if this is you could you
   reply?


   Best wishes

   Wendy


   Friends of Gabbiljee respectfully acknowledges that it is located on
   the land of the Whadjuk Noongar people.
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Re: [WAMUG] Which Email address?

[wendy.corrick--- via WAMUG]

   Hi Pete, Robin and Stephen

   I am accessing Webmail through my browser Firefox.  This goes back to
   the early days when we travelled and I wanted to check my emails.  I
   didn't want my emails downloaded to an internet cafe and then not
   visible at our next destination.

   When I ask for webmail using the old method I used for iinet I now get
   a TMC logon screen.  I log on to this using my internet name and
   password and this takes me to the old webmail sign-on screen.

   I log on again and it works well.

   I have tired to use Apple 'Mail' and it is pretty good but old habits
   are hard to change.  I am used to the 'layout' of webmail.  Much to the
   frustration of my daughter!

   Re those companies sending stuff by letter mail telling me that they've
   been unable to send an email;   has anyone else had this problem?

   Many thanks

   Wendy

   Friends of Gabbiljee respectfully acknowledges that it is located on
   the land of the Whadjuk Noongar people.


 - Original Message -

   From:
   "WAMUG" 

   To:

 "WAMUG" 

   Cc:

 "Stephen Chape" 

   Sent:

 Sat, 4 Nov 2023 22:15:16 +0800

   Subject:

 Re: [WAMUG] Which Email address?
 Hi Wendy … you have me intrigued.
 Why do you now log in to The Messaging Co ?
 My daughter is with Westnet.
 She simply she followed the steps suggested by Westnet to retain her
 email address
 by the due date and nothing has changed.
 > On 4 Nov 2023, at 6:51 pm, Pete via WAMUG
  wrote:
 >
 > Thanks and agreed Robin. Completely frictionless as you say.
 >
 > Regards
 >
 > Pete
 >
 >> On 4 Nov 2023, at 6:12 pm, Robin Belford via WAMUG
  wrote:
 >>
 >> Hi Wendy,
 >>
 >> I’m not sure you have fully understood the minimal effect on the
 user that the transfer of the email hosting of iinet, westnet et.
 al. email services actually entails.
 >> Now perhaps because you appear to be accessing your email via a
 web browser you are experiencing the dual login dance (it sounds
 absurd to me).
 >>
 >> You could consider using an email client, such as Mail, which
 comes installed on every macintosh and iPhone.
 >> Using these services I, my wife, and my children have experienced
 a frictionless transition.
 >> Infact they don’t really know, or care, who is managing their
 email hosting.
 >> All they care about is continuity of service, which they have
 experienced
 >>
 >> As for your assertion that third party companies, such as
 Medibank etc. expect you to change your email address is a complete
 nonsense.
 >> If that is what you have been told you, have been badly advised.
 >>
 >> You just keep using your westnet/iinet/ address as if nothing has
 happened.
 >>
 >> Regards,
 >>
 >> Robin
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >>> On 4 Nov 2023, at 5:40 pm, wendy.corrick--- via WAMUG
  wrote:
 >>>
 >>> Yep Peter I agree with your good summary.
 >>>
 >>> I too have an iinet address (one of their very early customers
 in fact)
 >>> and I did more than groan when I heard they intended to out
 source the
 >>> management of their iinet email customers.
 >>>
 >>> I did it by the due date and now log in to The Messaging Company
 first;
 >>> this takes me automatically to the familiar iinet screen where I
 log in
 >>> again.
 >>>
 >>> All is OK; except many companies eg Medibank assume that ALL
 iinet
 >>> customers MUST change their address. Our postman (the one that
 goes
 >>> around the streets delivering mail) is weighed down by the
 numbers of
 >>> letters this household has received requesting us to let the
 company
 >>> know of our new email address. (I exaggerate a bit there!) What
 I
 >>> haven't worked out is are these companies responding to some
 emails
 >>> that bounced? or are they just assuming that all iinet customers
 need
 >>> to change their address.
 >>>
 >>> It is becoming a real problem; and very time consuming in trying
 to
 >>> contact each company to tell them my address is valid.
 >>>
 >>> Whether or not the Messaging Company will be happy to have all
 these
 >>> iinet customers after the first year we will just have to wait
 and
 >>> see.. Along with how much they charge us.
 >>>
 >>> Best wishes all
 &g

Re: [WAMUG] Which Email address?

[wendy.corrick--- via WAMUG]

   Yep Peter I agree with your good summary.

   I too have an iinet address (one of their very early customers in fact)
   and I did more than groan when I heard they intended to out source the
   management of their iinet email customers.

   I did it by the due date and now log in to The Messaging Company first;
   this takes me automatically to the familiar iinet screen where I log in
   again.

   All is OK;  except many companies eg Medibank assume that ALL iinet
   customers MUST change their address.  Our postman (the one that goes
   around the streets delivering mail) is weighed down by the numbers of
   letters this household has received requesting us to let the company
   know of our new email address.  (I exaggerate a bit there!)  What I
   haven't worked out is are these companies responding to some emails
   that bounced? or are they just assuming that all iinet customers need
   to change their address.

   It is becoming a real problem;  and very time consuming in trying to
   contact each company to tell them my address is valid.

   Whether or not the Messaging Company will be happy to have all these
   iinet customers after the first year we will just have to wait and
   see..  Along with how much they charge us.

   Best wishes all

   Wendy

   Friends of Gabbiljee respectfully acknowledges that it is located on
   the land of the Whadjuk Noongar people.


 - Original Message -

   From:
   "WAMUG" 

   To:

 "WAMUG" 

   Cc:

 "Peter Crisp" 

   Sent:

 Thu, 02 Nov 2023 14:55:29 +0800

   Subject:

 Re: [WAMUG] Which Email address?
 Hi Rod, I am with Westnet as my ISP - same org as iinet I
 understand.
 Westnet advised me a couple of months back too they are outsourcing
 the email management. This was received with big groans. However,
 Westnet (and iinet) are outsourcing the email management to The
 Messaging Company. You have the choice to Opt In to their plan, in
 which case they will manage the full migration of your Westnet (or
 iinet) Mail accounts to The Messaging Company, but importantly you
 will keep exactly the same email address afterwards. I have opted in
 as making a change to a different email address would be a huge
 undertaking with all the tangles with multiple other subscriptions,
 providers etc my email address is associated with. Same to for the 4
 other family members in my family. I dug further into this - the
 first
 year of email management is free with The Messaging Company and then
 from year 2, they will charge a fee for the email management. If I
 look at my Westnet plan, the current email management fee will
 disappear form day 1 after migration and thereafter. I don't know
 yet
 how much The Messaging Company will charge from year 2.
 You can ring the helpline for further details if other questions or
 there is an FAQ page for the commonly asked questions.
 Kind Regards
 Peter Crisp
 - Original Message -
 From: "WAMUG"
 To:"WAMUG"
 Cc:"Rod Blitvich"
 Sent:Thu, 2 Nov 2023 14:13:05 +0800
 Subject:[WAMUG] Which Email address?
 Hi Folks
 So iinet email is shifting to another provider.
 Please can you suggest which email address should now I use as my
 primary address?
 I currently use rb...@iinet.net.au
 I have the following email addresses:
 rb...@iinet.net.au
 bli...@mac.com
 bli...@icloud.com
 I am thinking of making bli...@mac.com as my primary address
 Thank you
 Rod Blitvich
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Re: [WAMUG] Where do we go from here?

[wendy.corrick--- via WAMUG]

   Hi Maureen and all

   Oops I missed this as I've been travelling.  Am on the road;  tonight
   I'm in Ceduna heading east.  So unable to participate in the
   discussion.

   Will be interested in hear the results.

   cheers

   Wendy

   Friends of Gabbiljee respectfully acknowledges that it is located on
   the land of the Whadjuk Noongar people.


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   Sent:

 Mon, 05 Sep 2022 08:16:52 +0800

   Subject:

 [WAMUG] Where do we go from here?
 Hello Fellow WAMUGgers,
 This Tuesday 6 September, our member meeting will focus on……wait
 for it….Where do we go from here?

 On  August 1, I sent a notification the to the list that the
 committee had decided change our general meetings from monthly
 meetings to meetings ‘as and when needed’.
 The following reasons came up in our discussions. They are not
 criticisms of any person or group of people but are facts
 The change in decision was due to -
 * declining attendance
 * not knowing what members would be interested in, which has
 resulted
 in the committee coming up with ideas that might be of interest to
 members
 * presentations at meetings being left to a few.
 * our WAMUG list being the main source of information and help.
 So, this month’s meeting is an opportunity for you to have your say
 and join in the discussion.  If you are interested in contributing,
 please join us .
 Meeting details are below
 Topic: Where do we go from here?
 Time: Sep 6, 2022 07:30 PM Perth
 Join Zoom Meeting
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 Meeting ID: 844 3921 2041
 Passcode: 502451
 Kind Regards,
 Maureen Smith
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