Re: [WAMUG] Strange issue logging in to iCloud ??

[Stephen Chape via WAMUG]

   Thank you very much Daniel.

   I hardly ever log in to [1]iCloud.com like that.

   So I must have forgotten that procedure.

   Anyway your assistance was very welcome.

   PS: I have seen no posts from Ronnie for a long time.

   Do you (or anyone else) know if she is OK?

   On 11 Mar 2024, at 9:14 am, Daniel Kerr via WAMUG
wrote:

   Hi Stephen
   Generally if it’s the window you’re describing asking to use the “usual
   AppleID” then the password it actually wants is your computer password.
   (As it most likely has your AppleID password saved into a special
   encrypted token), so it’s then asking you to enter your computer
   password to “authorise” the computer to access that token.
   So when it pops up, you just enter your computer password and it will
   then log in as per normal.
   It’s so you can use your own AppleID on your own computer, but if
   someone else a) tried to access it that can’t - without knowing your
   computer password or b) someone else can log in to their AppleID had
   they want to check something.
   But your normal computer password should then take you to the step
   without having to go the long way you mentioned.
   Kind regards
   Daniel
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 On 10 Mar 2024, at 10:32 AM, Stephen Chape via WAMUG
  wrote:
  Hi folks.
  When I try to log in to iCloud.
  I am asked if I want to use my usual Apple ID "cha...@mac.com"
  If I choose yes to this, my password will not work.
  But if I choose “use a different Apple ID”
  Then type in my usual “cha...@mac.com”
  My password lets me in.
  In the words of Professor Julius Sumner Miller.
  “why is this so?”
  Any words of wisdom regarding this will be thankfully received !!
  Regards
  Stephen Chape
  Mac by choice
  Windows because my employer knew no better
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Re: [WAMUG] Strange issue logging in to iCloud ??

[Daniel Kerr via WAMUG]

Hi Stephen

Generally if it’s the window you’re describing asking to use the “usual 
AppleID” then the password it actually wants is your computer password.
(As it most likely has your AppleID password saved into a special encrypted 
token), so it’s then asking you to enter your computer password to “authorise” 
the computer to access that token.
So when it pops up, you just enter your computer password and it will then log 
in as per normal.

It’s so you can use your own AppleID on your own computer, but if someone else 
a) tried to access it that can’t - without knowing your computer password or b) 
someone else can log in to their AppleID had they want to check something.

But your normal computer password should then take you to the step without 
having to go the long way you mentioned.

Kind regards
Daniel

 Sent from my iPhone 15 Pro 

---
Daniel Kerr
MacWizardry

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NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and as 
such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of MacWizardry. Any 
information provided does not offer or warrant any form of warranty or accept 
liability. It would be appreciated that if any information in this email is to 
be disseminated, distributed or copied, that permission by the author be 
requested. 

> On 10 Mar 2024, at 10:32 AM, Stephen Chape via WAMUG 
>  wrote:
> 
>   Hi folks.
> 
>   When I try to log in to iCloud.
> 
>   I am asked if I want to use my usual Apple ID "cha...@mac.com"
> 
>   If I choose yes to this, my password will not work.
> 
>   But if I choose “use a different Apple ID”
> 
>   Then type in my usual “cha...@mac.com”
> 
>   My password lets me in.
> 
>   In the words of Professor Julius Sumner Miller.
> 
>   “why is this so?”
> 
>   Any words of wisdom regarding this will be thankfully received !!
> 
>   Regards
>   Stephen Chape
>   Mac by choice
>   Windows because my employer knew no better
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Re: [WAMUG] Strange issue logging in to iCloud ??

[Stephen Chape via WAMUG]

   Thank you Peter … but I do not use safari to log in.

   I do so manually.

   However I looked where you suggested in Safari.

   But it tells me it has no password recorded.

   So back to square one !!

   On 10 Mar 2024, at 1:07 pm, Peter Hinchliffe via WAMUG
wrote:

 My only suggestion is:
 If you’re logging with Safari, go to Safari > Settings > Passwords
   and
 find the entry for your iCloud login. You can’t edit it, so delete it
 using the — symbol at the botton of the passwords list. Close the
 window and try logging in again. This time Keychain will ask again if
 you want to save your login and password. Say OK and move on.
   Hopefully
 this will fix the problem. Please note this will not necessarily work
 for other browsers because they won’t work the same way with
   Keychain.
 On 10 Mar 2024, at 10:32 am, Stephen Chape via WAMUG
  wrote:
   Hi folks.
   When I try to log in to iCloud.
   I am asked if I want to use my usual Apple ID "cha...@mac.com"
   If I choose yes to this, my password will not work.
   But if I choose “use a different Apple ID”
   Then type in my usual “cha...@mac.com”
   My password lets me in.
   In the words of Professor Julius Sumner Miller.
   “why is this so?”
   Any words of wisdom regarding this will be thankfully received !!
   Regards
   Stephen Chape
   Mac by choice
   Windows because my employer knew no better
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 Kind regards,
 Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
 Claris FileMaker Pro Associate Solutions Developer
 Perth, Western Australia
 Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
 
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   Stephen Chape
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Re: [WAMUG] Strange issue logging in to iCloud ??

[Peter Hinchliffe via WAMUG]

   My only suggestion is:

   If you’re logging with Safari, go to Safari > Settings > Passwords and
   find the entry for your iCloud login. You can’t edit it, so delete it
   using the — symbol at the botton of the passwords list. Close the
   window and try logging in again. This time Keychain will ask again if
   you want to save your login and password. Say OK and move on. Hopefully
   this will fix the problem. Please note this will not necessarily work
   for other browsers because they won’t work the same way with Keychain.

   On 10 Mar 2024, at 10:32 am, Stephen Chape via WAMUG
wrote:

 Hi folks.
 When I try to log in to iCloud.
 I am asked if I want to use my usual Apple ID "cha...@mac.com"
 If I choose yes to this, my password will not work.
 But if I choose “use a different Apple ID”
 Then type in my usual “cha...@mac.com”
 My password lets me in.
 In the words of Professor Julius Sumner Miller.
 “why is this so?”
 Any words of wisdom regarding this will be thankfully received !!
 Regards
 Stephen Chape
 Mac by choice
 Windows because my employer knew no better
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   Kind regards,
   Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
   Claris FileMaker Pro Associate Solutions Developer
   Perth, Western Australia
   Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
   
   Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.
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[WAMUG] Strange issue logging in to iCloud ??

[Stephen Chape via WAMUG]

   Hi folks.

   When I try to log in to iCloud.

   I am asked if I want to use my usual Apple ID "cha...@mac.com"

   If I choose yes to this, my password will not work.

   But if I choose “use a different Apple ID”

   Then type in my usual “cha...@mac.com”

   My password lets me in.

   In the words of Professor Julius Sumner Miller.

   “why is this so?”

   Any words of wisdom regarding this will be thankfully received !!

   Regards
   Stephen Chape
   Mac by choice
   Windows because my employer knew no better
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