Re: [Wengophone-devel] New Project Name

2008-02-22 Thread Dave Neary

Hi Vadim,

Be careful to check if you're infringing on QT trademarks - the QT guys
pronounce if Cute (same as Qute), so you may be getting a note from
Norway if you stick with this name.

Cheers,
Dave.

Vadim Lebedev wrote:
> Folks,
> 
> I've really intended to arrange for some kind of vote on the new name
> however i was strongly advised against it due fear of domain name
> squatters.
> So i researched availablity of domains  and trademarks  for  the
> proposed names and finally the result is:
> 
> QuteCom{.com,.org, .net}  -  As Qute Communicator
> 
> and
> QutePhone{.com,  .org,  .net}  -  as Qute Phone
> 
> 
> 
> The domains are already registered.
> 
> Monday i'll start to work on web server
> 
> Folks with graphical minds, please start submitting logo's proposals
> 
> 
> Thanks
> Vadim
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] New Project Name

2008-02-23 Thread michel memeteau
Just My thoughts :

As we all know, We still haven't a decent solution for SIP video/audio/text.

As Wengophone as its main features based on SIP , including SIP in its
name, would help visibility about the protocol and not the software.

As people currently don't say " send me a yahoo or a gmail !!! " , I
hope it would help them to say one day "Call  me on SIP" !!!



On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 1:05 AM, Dave Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  Hi Vadim,
>
>  Be careful to check if you're infringing on QT trademarks - the QT guys
>  pronounce if Cute (same as Qute), so you may be getting a note from
>  Norway if you stick with this name.
>
>  Cheers,
>  Dave.
>
>
>
>  Vadim Lebedev wrote:
>  > Folks,
>  >
>  > I've really intended to arrange for some kind of vote on the new name
>  > however i was strongly advised against it due fear of domain name
>  > squatters.
>  > So i researched availablity of domains  and trademarks  for  the
>  > proposed names and finally the result is:
>  >
>  > QuteCom{.com,.org, .net}  -  As Qute Communicator
>  >
>  > and
>  > QutePhone{.com,  .org,  .net}  -  as Qute Phone
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > The domains are already registered.
>  >
>  > Monday i'll start to work on web server
>  >
>  > Folks with graphical minds, please start submitting logo's proposals
>  >
>  >
>  > Thanks
>  > Vadim
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] New Project Name

2008-02-23 Thread EdPimentl
Why not shorten the name to "GoPhone"... "gPhone"  "wPhone"
And leverage the brand that WengoPhone built.

-E

On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 1:33 PM, michel memeteau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Just My thoughts :
>
> As we all know, We still haven't a decent solution for SIP
> video/audio/text.
>
>
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] New Project Name

2008-02-23 Thread Patrick Aljord
On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 11:32 PM, EdPimentl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why not shorten the name to "GoPhone"... "gPhone"  "wPhone"
> And leverage the brand that WengoPhone built.

I think it's too late, the domains are registered already.
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] New Project Name

2008-02-24 Thread Dave Neary
Hi,

Patrick Aljord wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 11:32 PM, EdPimentl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Why not shorten the name to "GoPhone"... "gPhone"  "wPhone"
>> And leverage the brand that WengoPhone built.
> 
> I think it's too late, the domains are registered already.

wphone is for sale, and I don't really get the interest for gphone and
gophone.

I'd personally like to mark the break from the past, and choose a very
different name. Qute* comes across to me as not very qute, and quite
possibly contentious with Trolltech trademarks.

I find it a little disheartening that what was initially announced as a
competition to choose a new name has now been announced as a unilateral
decision... at the very least, I would have liked to see a shortlist of
4 or 5 candidates registered and thrown out to the community for
voting/comments.

Cheers,
Dave.

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Re: [Wengophone-devel] New Project Name

2008-02-24 Thread Patrick Aljord
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 3:21 PM, Dave Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  I'd personally like to mark the break from the past, and choose a very
>  different name. Qute* comes across to me as not very qute, and quite
>  possibly contentious with Trolltech trademarks.
>

Don't worry, Trolltech didn't get the trademark on anything that
sounds like Cute. They don't even have Qute, where did you get that?
The only thing they have as a trademark is Qt.

>  I find it a little disheartening that what was initially announced as a
>  competition to choose a new name has now been announced as a unilateral
>  decision... at the very least, I would have liked to see a shortlist of
>  4 or 5 candidates registered and thrown out to the community for
>  voting/comments.

As Vadim explained, this is technically not possible. I don't know if
you've ever tried to buy a domain name, but people just try to
speculate and buy everything in the dictionary or not. Doing a public
contest would be impossible cause some people would simply buy the
winner and try to sell it to the community later.
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] New Project Name

2008-02-25 Thread Dave Neary

Hi,

Patrick Aljord wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 3:21 PM, Dave Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  I find it a little disheartening that what was initially announced as a
>>  competition to choose a new name has now been announced as a unilateral
>>  decision... at the very least, I would have liked to see a shortlist of
>>  4 or 5 candidates registered and thrown out to the community for
>>  voting/comments.
> 
> As Vadim explained, this is technically not possible. I don't know if
> you've ever tried to buy a domain name, but people just try to
> speculate and buy everything in the dictionary or not. Doing a public
> contest would be impossible cause some people would simply buy the
> winner and try to sell it to the community later.

I have about a dozen domain names mostly lying idle. Some will be used
in the future.

You can buy a domain name for a year for under $10. Let's say that after
doing the first level of filtering, you whittle things down to 5 names
whose domain names in .com and .org are available - register 2*5 domain
names for $100, and publish the short list. If all else fails, sell the
other 8 :)

It's a little self-important to imagine domain name hoarders following
our little mailing list by the way :)

There are also projects who use names derived from the project name -
think of sane-project.org, spreadfirefox.com & getfirefox.com (not sure
why MoFo didn't buy the .orgs associated with those, though...),
mono-project.com, etc. While having the right domain name is important,
it's not the end of the world to have a related domain name (like say
pidgin.im) as long as it's distinctive & memorable.

Cheers,
Dave.

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