Re: [Wien] about EELS

2014-12-08 Thread Meng, Qingping
Hi Kevin,
Thank you so much. I found case.broadspec file.
Best wishes,
Qingping

From: wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at 
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Subject: Re: [Wien] about EELS

Hi Qingping,

I believe it's called case.broadspec.  Does that file exist?  I've changed the 
names of some files in the new code version I'm preparing.

Cheers,

Kevin


On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Meng, Qingping 
mailto:qm...@bnl.gov>> wrote:
Hi Kevin,
Thank you so much for your answer. I need the data after broadening 
calculation. I will plot figure myself. I do not know the name of output file 
after broadening. Could you tell me the file name. Thank you.
Best wishes,
Qingping

From: 
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To: A Mailing list for WIEN2k users
Subject: Re: [Wien] about EELS

Hi Qingping,

the unbroadened eels is in the case.elnes file.  The broadening is done in a 
separate step, by the program "broadening".  You can call it by typing "x 
broadening".  It uses the file "case.inb".  This file has an ugly input format, 
but the parameters are explained in the manual.  The file is written 
automatically by the TELNES program.  You can change the parameters, e.g. the 
spectrometer broadening (Gaussian).  You can also change the lifetime (final 
state) broadening. Sometimes it is too aggressive and then it can be better to 
just turn it off.
If you are using w2web, then there should be a button for broadening in the 
TELNES workflow page.

The corehole lifetime broadening is taken from a table.  The spectrometer 
broadening is taken from input (case.innes).  The final state lifetime 
broadening is a guess.  But you should not hesitate to change the parameters so 
that you best match your experiment.  (After all, the true physics is to have 
energy-dependent broadening determined by the electron self-energy, and what we 
do in WIEN2k is only an approximation.)

Please let me know if you need further help.

Cheers,

Kevin


On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 6:29 PM, Meng, Qingping 
mailto:qm...@bnl.gov>> wrote:
Dear Kevin,
Thank you so much for your answer. Now I have another question. When I finished 
TELNES calculation, I need the data of broadening. Where can I find it? I only 
can find unbroadening data in case.elnes. Thank you.
Best,
Qingping

From: 
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 On Behalf Of Kevin Jorissen
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 6:17 AM
To: A Mailing list for WIEN2k users
Subject: Re: [Wien] about EELS

Hi Qingping,

looks like you have it mostly figured out already:

1/ These are all the same.
2/ That's correct.  You'll find an estimate of the onset energy itself in 
case.outputelnes (or in case.outputc), but you often have to shift them a bit 
to align with the experiment anyway.  Chemical shifts however are typically 
much more accurate than the absolute values of edge onsets.
3/ That's right.

Cheers,

Kevin


On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 4:49 AM, Meng, Qingping 
mailto:qm...@bnl.gov>> wrote:
Dear wien2k's users,
I have some questions about calculated EELS.
1) why the title of x-coordinate in some EElS figures use Energy-loss, and 
sometimes use Energy above Fermi, or Energy above threshold? Are they different?
2) 0 point of x-coordinate is the value of edge onset?
3) if I want to calculate L2 L3 peak, I need input n=2, l=1 in input file.
Thank you.
Best wishes,
Qingping

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Re: [Wien] about EELS

2014-12-08 Thread Kevin Jorissen
Hi Qingping,

I believe it's called case.broadspec.  Does that file exist?  I've changed
the names of some files in the new code version I'm preparing.

Cheers,

Kevin


On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Meng, Qingping  wrote:

>  Hi Kevin,
>
> Thank you so much for your answer. I need the data after broadening
> calculation. I will plot figure myself. I do not know the name of output
> file after broadening. Could you tell me the file name. Thank you.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Qingping
>
>
>
> *From:* wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at [mailto:
> wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at] *On Behalf Of *Kevin Jorissen
> *Sent:* Monday, December 08, 2014 9:44 AM
>
> *To:* A Mailing list for WIEN2k users
> *Subject:* Re: [Wien] about EELS
>
>
>
> Hi Qingping,
>
>
>
> the unbroadened eels is in the case.elnes file.  The broadening is done in
> a separate step, by the program "broadening".  You can call it by typing "x
> broadening".  It uses the file "case.inb".  This file has an ugly input
> format, but the parameters are explained in the manual.  The file is
> written automatically by the TELNES program.  You can change the
> parameters, e.g. the spectrometer broadening (Gaussian).  You can also
> change the lifetime (final state) broadening. Sometimes it is too
> aggressive and then it can be better to just turn it off.
>
> If you are using w2web, then there should be a button for broadening in
> the TELNES workflow page.
>
>
>
> The corehole lifetime broadening is taken from a table.  The spectrometer
> broadening is taken from input (case.innes).  The final state lifetime
> broadening is a guess.  But you should not hesitate to change the
> parameters so that you best match your experiment.  (After all, the true
> physics is to have energy-dependent broadening determined by the electron
> self-energy, and what we do in WIEN2k is only an approximation.)
>
>
>
> Please let me know if you need further help.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Kevin
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 6:29 PM, Meng, Qingping  wrote:
>
> Dear Kevin,
>
> Thank you so much for your answer. Now I have another question. When I
> finished TELNES calculation, I need the data of broadening. Where can I
> find it? I only can find unbroadening data in case.elnes. Thank you.
>
> Best,
>
> Qingping
>
>
>
> *From:* wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at [mailto:
> wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at] *On Behalf Of *Kevin Jorissen
> *Sent:* Friday, December 05, 2014 6:17 AM
> *To:* A Mailing list for WIEN2k users
> *Subject:* Re: [Wien] about EELS
>
>
>
> Hi Qingping,
>
>
>
> looks like you have it mostly figured out already:
>
>
>
> 1/ These are all the same.
>
> 2/ That's correct.  You'll find an estimate of the onset energy itself in
> case.outputelnes (or in case.outputc), but you often have to shift them a
> bit to align with the experiment anyway.  Chemical shifts however are
> typically much more accurate than the absolute values of edge onsets.
>
> 3/ That's right.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Kevin
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 4:49 AM, Meng, Qingping  wrote:
>
> Dear wien2k's users,
>
> I have some questions about calculated EELS.
>
> 1) why the title of x-coordinate in some EElS figures use Energy-loss, and
> sometimes use Energy above Fermi, or Energy above threshold? Are they
> different?
>
> 2) 0 point of x-coordinate is the value of edge onset?
>
> 3) if I want to calculate L2 L3 peak, I need input n=2, l=1 in input file.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Qingping
>
>
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Re: [Wien] about EELS

2014-12-08 Thread Meng, Qingping
Hi Kevin,
Thank you so much for your answer. I need the data after broadening 
calculation. I will plot figure myself. I do not know the name of output file 
after broadening. Could you tell me the file name. Thank you.
Best wishes,
Qingping

From: wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at 
[mailto:wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at] On Behalf Of Kevin Jorissen
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 9:44 AM
To: A Mailing list for WIEN2k users
Subject: Re: [Wien] about EELS

Hi Qingping,

the unbroadened eels is in the case.elnes file.  The broadening is done in a 
separate step, by the program "broadening".  You can call it by typing "x 
broadening".  It uses the file "case.inb".  This file has an ugly input format, 
but the parameters are explained in the manual.  The file is written 
automatically by the TELNES program.  You can change the parameters, e.g. the 
spectrometer broadening (Gaussian).  You can also change the lifetime (final 
state) broadening. Sometimes it is too aggressive and then it can be better to 
just turn it off.
If you are using w2web, then there should be a button for broadening in the 
TELNES workflow page.

The corehole lifetime broadening is taken from a table.  The spectrometer 
broadening is taken from input (case.innes).  The final state lifetime 
broadening is a guess.  But you should not hesitate to change the parameters so 
that you best match your experiment.  (After all, the true physics is to have 
energy-dependent broadening determined by the electron self-energy, and what we 
do in WIEN2k is only an approximation.)

Please let me know if you need further help.

Cheers,

Kevin


On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 6:29 PM, Meng, Qingping 
mailto:qm...@bnl.gov>> wrote:
Dear Kevin,
Thank you so much for your answer. Now I have another question. When I finished 
TELNES calculation, I need the data of broadening. Where can I find it? I only 
can find unbroadening data in case.elnes. Thank you.
Best,
Qingping

From: 
wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at<mailto:wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at>
 
[mailto:wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at<mailto:wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at>]
 On Behalf Of Kevin Jorissen
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 6:17 AM
To: A Mailing list for WIEN2k users
Subject: Re: [Wien] about EELS

Hi Qingping,

looks like you have it mostly figured out already:

1/ These are all the same.
2/ That's correct.  You'll find an estimate of the onset energy itself in 
case.outputelnes (or in case.outputc), but you often have to shift them a bit 
to align with the experiment anyway.  Chemical shifts however are typically 
much more accurate than the absolute values of edge onsets.
3/ That's right.

Cheers,

Kevin


On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 4:49 AM, Meng, Qingping 
mailto:qm...@bnl.gov>> wrote:
Dear wien2k's users,
I have some questions about calculated EELS.
1) why the title of x-coordinate in some EElS figures use Energy-loss, and 
sometimes use Energy above Fermi, or Energy above threshold? Are they different?
2) 0 point of x-coordinate is the value of edge onset?
3) if I want to calculate L2 L3 peak, I need input n=2, l=1 in input file.
Thank you.
Best wishes,
Qingping

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Re: [Wien] about EELS

2014-12-08 Thread Kevin Jorissen
Hi Qingping,

the unbroadened eels is in the case.elnes file.  The broadening is done in
a separate step, by the program "broadening".  You can call it by typing "x
broadening".  It uses the file "case.inb".  This file has an ugly input
format, but the parameters are explained in the manual.  The file is
written automatically by the TELNES program.  You can change the
parameters, e.g. the spectrometer broadening (Gaussian).  You can also
change the lifetime (final state) broadening. Sometimes it is too
aggressive and then it can be better to just turn it off.
If you are using w2web, then there should be a button for broadening in the
TELNES workflow page.

The corehole lifetime broadening is taken from a table.  The spectrometer
broadening is taken from input (case.innes).  The final state lifetime
broadening is a guess.  But you should not hesitate to change the
parameters so that you best match your experiment.  (After all, the true
physics is to have energy-dependent broadening determined by the electron
self-energy, and what we do in WIEN2k is only an approximation.)

Please let me know if you need further help.

Cheers,

Kevin


On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 6:29 PM, Meng, Qingping  wrote:

>  Dear Kevin,
>
> Thank you so much for your answer. Now I have another question. When I
> finished TELNES calculation, I need the data of broadening. Where can I
> find it? I only can find unbroadening data in case.elnes. Thank you.
>
> Best,
>
> Qingping
>
>
>
> *From:* wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at [mailto:
> wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at] *On Behalf Of *Kevin Jorissen
> *Sent:* Friday, December 05, 2014 6:17 AM
> *To:* A Mailing list for WIEN2k users
> *Subject:* Re: [Wien] about EELS
>
>
>
> Hi Qingping,
>
>
>
> looks like you have it mostly figured out already:
>
>
>
> 1/ These are all the same.
>
> 2/ That's correct.  You'll find an estimate of the onset energy itself in
> case.outputelnes (or in case.outputc), but you often have to shift them a
> bit to align with the experiment anyway.  Chemical shifts however are
> typically much more accurate than the absolute values of edge onsets.
>
> 3/ That's right.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Kevin
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 4:49 AM, Meng, Qingping  wrote:
>
> Dear wien2k's users,
>
> I have some questions about calculated EELS.
>
> 1) why the title of x-coordinate in some EElS figures use Energy-loss, and
> sometimes use Energy above Fermi, or Energy above threshold? Are they
> different?
>
> 2) 0 point of x-coordinate is the value of edge onset?
>
> 3) if I want to calculate L2 L3 peak, I need input n=2, l=1 in input file.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Qingping
>
>
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Re: [Wien] about EELS

2014-12-07 Thread Meng, Qingping
Dear Kevin,
Thank you so much for your answer. Now I have another question. When I finished 
TELNES calculation, I need the data of broadening. Where can I find it? I only 
can find unbroadening data in case.elnes. Thank you.
Best,
Qingping

From: wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at 
[mailto:wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at] On Behalf Of Kevin Jorissen
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 6:17 AM
To: A Mailing list for WIEN2k users
Subject: Re: [Wien] about EELS

Hi Qingping,

looks like you have it mostly figured out already:

1/ These are all the same.
2/ That's correct.  You'll find an estimate of the onset energy itself in 
case.outputelnes (or in case.outputc), but you often have to shift them a bit 
to align with the experiment anyway.  Chemical shifts however are typically 
much more accurate than the absolute values of edge onsets.
3/ That's right.

Cheers,

Kevin


On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 4:49 AM, Meng, Qingping 
mailto:qm...@bnl.gov>> wrote:
Dear wien2k's users,
I have some questions about calculated EELS.
1) why the title of x-coordinate in some EElS figures use Energy-loss, and 
sometimes use Energy above Fermi, or Energy above threshold? Are they different?
2) 0 point of x-coordinate is the value of edge onset?
3) if I want to calculate L2 L3 peak, I need input n=2, l=1 in input file.
Thank you.
Best wishes,
Qingping

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Re: [Wien] about EELS

2014-12-05 Thread Kevin Jorissen
Hi Qingping,

looks like you have it mostly figured out already:

1/ These are all the same.
2/ That's correct.  You'll find an estimate of the onset energy itself in
case.outputelnes (or in case.outputc), but you often have to shift them a
bit to align with the experiment anyway.  Chemical shifts however are
typically much more accurate than the absolute values of edge onsets.
3/ That's right.

Cheers,

Kevin


On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 4:49 AM, Meng, Qingping  wrote:

>  Dear wien2k's users,
> I have some questions about calculated EELS.
> 1) why the title of x-coordinate in some EElS figures use Energy-loss, and
> sometimes use Energy above Fermi, or Energy above threshold? Are they
> different?
> 2) 0 point of x-coordinate is the value of edge onset?
> 3) if I want to calculate L2 L3 peak, I need input n=2, l=1 in input file.
> Thank you.
> Best wishes,
> Qingping
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[Wien] about EELS

2014-12-04 Thread Meng, Qingping
Dear wien2k's users,
I have some questions about calculated EELS.
1) why the title of x-coordinate in some EElS figures use Energy-loss, and 
sometimes use Energy above Fermi, or Energy above threshold? Are they different?
2) 0 point of x-coordinate is the value of edge onset?
3) if I want to calculate L2 L3 peak, I need input n=2, l=1 in input file.
Thank you.
Best wishes,
Qingping
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[Wien] About EELS calculate

2008-09-01 Thread pf.g...@imr.tohoku.ac.jp
Dear Peter:

Thank for your help! but where can I find the NiO example?

By the way, how can I claculate the electron charge distribution in a unit cell 
as a functionod z?(how ro integrated over the xy-plane?)

*
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[Wien] About EELS calculate

2008-09-01 Thread Peter Blaha
http://www.wien2k.at/events/ws2008/talks/Exercises_08.pdf

or in $WIENROOT/example_struct_files/coo.struct

pf.guan at imr.tohoku.ac.jp schrieb:
> Dear Peter:
> 
> Thank for your help! but where can I find the NiO example?
> 
> By the way, how can I claculate the electron charge distribution in a unit 
> cell as a functionod z?(how ro integrated over the xy-plane?)

Numerically by your own integration of charge densities in planes calculated by 
lapw5.
Beware of large numerical errors !

> 
> *
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> International Frontier Center for Advanced Materials
> Institute for Materials Research
> Tohoku University
> 2-1-1 Katahira, Aoba-ku, Sendai 980-8577, Japan
> Tel: +81-22-215-2139
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[Wien] About EELS calculate

2008-09-01 Thread Peter Blaha
FeO is a "highly correlated" (antiferromagnetic) oxide.
You need to treat it spin-polarized with LDA+U (or hybrid DFT).
(Check the NiO example)

pf.guan at imr.tohoku.ac.jp schrieb:
> Dear All-user:
> 
> I have some question about EELS calculation:
> 1, how can I set the energy of the edge onset? from experiment?
> 2, how to set the parameter in case.inb?
> 
> I do some test use FeO system like this:
> 1), run SCF
> 2), edit in1 to set EMAX
> 3), x lapw1, x lapw2 -qtl
> 4), edit innes, but I didn't know how to set the parameter, can give me some 
> adviceS?
> 5), x telness2
> 6), edit inb, I also didn't know how to set it?
> 7), x broadening
> 
> can get me some reference about set this parameters? If I want the high 
> energy EELS, how can I do?
> Thank you very much!
> 
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> Institute for Materials Research
> Tohoku University
> 2-1-1 Katahira, Aoba-ku, Sendai 980-8577, Japan
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[Wien] About EELS calculate

2008-08-28 Thread pf.g...@imr.tohoku.ac.jp
Dear All-user:

I have some question about EELS calculation:
1, how can I set the energy of the edge onset? from experiment?
2, how to set the parameter in case.inb?

I do some test use FeO system like this:
1), run SCF
2), edit in1 to set EMAX
3), x lapw1, x lapw2 -qtl
4), edit innes, but I didn't know how to set the parameter, can give me some 
adviceS?
5), x telness2
6), edit inb, I also didn't know how to set it?
7), x broadening

can get me some reference about set this parameters? If I want the high energy 
EELS, how can I do?
Thank you very much!

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Pengfei GUAN
International Frontier Center for Advanced Materials
Institute for Materials Research
Tohoku University
2-1-1 Katahira, Aoba-ku, Sendai 980-8577, Japan
Tel: +81-22-215-2139
Fax: +81-22-215-2194
Email: pf.guan at imr.tohoku.ac.jp
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