Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-mum] Report on Wikipedia Takes Mumbai II

[nikita belavate]

Hii All,

Sorry for not been able to write in detail about the event yesterday.

On 28th Morning, the participants arrived exactly at 8am. Few, who could
not arrive on time made it a point to inform one of us, about it.
We spoke to them about their preference of places to click which went on
Good. There after, around 8.45am people dispersed on respective routes.

I along with three others covered the extreme north of churchgate(
Jogeshwari, Borivali and Dahisar ). While Karthik covered the Chatrapati
Shivaji Vastu Sangrahalay interiors besides other places and headed to
HBCSE for keeping the lab ready for participants with the tool installed.
Not many could make it to HBCSE though, owing to the distance. In all there
were 10 of us who reached there by 2.30pm.

The major technical challenge started here while uploading the images. The
system would not allow upload from many people simultaneously and only one
person's images were uploaded at a time ! On informing this to Dr.
Nagarjuna, he mentioned about asking help from the IRC center but
unfortunately, none of the wikipedians were online at that time. We tried
calling few , but for some reason they cwere not available then. After
this, we waited for sometime for the one person's upload to get over and
till then the others filled the data for the images. Two people
successfully uploaded images using 'Commonist' tool for mass upload.
The participants were comfortable with the process absolutely but the
problem was when they pressed 'UPLOAD'. It said, There is an 'unknown
error'. In order to overcome this, we tried to upload using the basic 5
steps of upload in commons, but it showed the message, 'The files are
empty' !!!  no idea How and Why this happened..!

After trying this, Nagarjuna Sir sat with us for trying Python. And the
rest as he mentioned earlier in this thread:
"while running the script, it cribbed about 'missing module poster'.  I
have installed it using pip. then another missing dependency was
python-pyexiv2.  apt-get install python-pyexiv2 took care of this.
after that the script ran successfully". Took lot of time in getting the
script working though.

However we could not run Python on other PCs since by the time it was post
8pm.
We could only upload images of 4 people successfully. However this is
something to discuss as why the tools did not work as they should have
been. Partcipants left the campus by 7.30pm after copying the images on
desktop.

Big Thanks to Nargarjun Sir for being there with us for the entire time
till 9pm in HBCSE and his efforts in upload procedure !!

Besides, there are many people who helped in particular stages of the
event. Starting Noopur , Pranav, Moksh, Netra, Vickram uncle,
Dr.Nagarjuna, Kundan
Sir,  Aditya and Krutika for attending the event. Also would like to make
mention of Ajit Sahu who created the logo for the event with just little
briefing. Thanks to ALL !

Warm Regards,
Nikita Belavate.

On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 1:21 PM,  wrote:

>  We seem to be called in to the cop station a bit too often - visit #2 for
> Wikipedia (1st was for WCI 11), this time it got better, taken in a Police
> Van to MRA Marg. The worst part, they dont drop you back, you need to make
> your own way :(
>
> The guards at Bombay House were pretty clear, we have orders not to allow
> photography on Homy Mody Street in front of the building for security
> reasons. Its odd that such orders are given in the first place, as public
> roads are not under their purview and we were certainly not trespassing
> their property. Aditya offered to delete the pics if they could show that
> its illegal, obviously they could not. Just because they are scared of
> terror threats, whoever gave the order seems to think they have the right
> to deny the public of their rights and curtail freedom. Talk about misuse
> of power.
>
> --
> From: apsengu...@gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 09:52:17 +0530
> To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> CC: wikimedia-in-...@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-in-mum] [Wikimediaindia-l] Report on Wikipedia
> Takes Mumbai II
>
>
> Harriet,
>
> On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 05:32, Outofindia  wrote:
>
>
> Sounds like a fun time was had by all.
>
> A question:
> Is there anyway of finding out in advance what buildings are considered to
> have have "Security fears"?
>
>
> Yes- if there is a yellow board that declares the building as a
> "Prohibited Area", you are not allowed to photograph such buildings. We saw
> quite a few of these buildings- such as the RBI building. These boards are
> required to be registered with the police/government, so it isn't like
> anyone can put them up.
>
> Everything else is fair game- as long as you are not trespassing on their
> property (which we weren't) or harassing them (we were super nice and
> polite with the Bombay House folks as well as the police- so this wasn't a
> problem either).
>
>
>
> Warm regards
>
> Harriet
> Still in NYC.
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-mum] Report on Wikipedia Takes Mumbai II

[Pradeep Mohandas]

hi,

It seems like an instructive learning experience at so many levels -
technical, photographical, legal etc. Thank you for sharing this here.

I hope all of you learnt while having fun! Please do more events like this!

Pradeep
Handheld

On 30/01/2012, nikita belavate  wrote:
> Hii All,
>
> Sorry for not been able to write in detail about the event yesterday.
>
> On 28th Morning, the participants arrived exactly at 8am. Few, who could
> not arrive on time made it a point to inform one of us, about it.
> We spoke to them about their preference of places to click which went on
> Good. There after, around 8.45am people dispersed on respective routes.
>
> I along with three others covered the extreme north of churchgate(
> Jogeshwari, Borivali and Dahisar ). While Karthik covered the Chatrapati
> Shivaji Vastu Sangrahalay interiors besides other places and headed to
> HBCSE for keeping the lab ready for participants with the tool installed.
> Not many could make it to HBCSE though, owing to the distance. In all there
> were 10 of us who reached there by 2.30pm.
>
> The major technical challenge started here while uploading the images. The
> system would not allow upload from many people simultaneously and only one
> person's images were uploaded at a time ! On informing this to Dr.
> Nagarjuna, he mentioned about asking help from the IRC center but
> unfortunately, none of the wikipedians were online at that time. We tried
> calling few , but for some reason they cwere not available then. After
> this, we waited for sometime for the one person's upload to get over and
> till then the others filled the data for the images. Two people
> successfully uploaded images using 'Commonist' tool for mass upload.
> The participants were comfortable with the process absolutely but the
> problem was when they pressed 'UPLOAD'. It said, There is an 'unknown
> error'. In order to overcome this, we tried to upload using the basic 5
> steps of upload in commons, but it showed the message, 'The files are
> empty' !!!  no idea How and Why this happened..!
>
> After trying this, Nagarjuna Sir sat with us for trying Python. And the
> rest as he mentioned earlier in this thread:
> "while running the script, it cribbed about 'missing module poster'.  I
> have installed it using pip. then another missing dependency was
> python-pyexiv2.  apt-get install python-pyexiv2 took care of this.
> after that the script ran successfully". Took lot of time in getting the
> script working though.
>
> However we could not run Python on other PCs since by the time it was post
> 8pm.
> We could only upload images of 4 people successfully. However this is
> something to discuss as why the tools did not work as they should have
> been. Partcipants left the campus by 7.30pm after copying the images on
> desktop.
>
> Big Thanks to Nargarjun Sir for being there with us for the entire time
> till 9pm in HBCSE and his efforts in upload procedure !!
>
> Besides, there are many people who helped in particular stages of the
> event. Starting Noopur , Pranav, Moksh, Netra, Vickram uncle,
> Dr.Nagarjuna, Kundan
> Sir,  Aditya and Krutika for attending the event. Also would like to make
> mention of Ajit Sahu who created the logo for the event with just little
> briefing. Thanks to ALL !
>
> Warm Regards,
> Nikita Belavate.
>
> On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 1:21 PM,  wrote:
>
>>  We seem to be called in to the cop station a bit too often - visit #2 for
>> Wikipedia (1st was for WCI 11), this time it got better, taken in a Police
>> Van to MRA Marg. The worst part, they dont drop you back, you need to make
>> your own way :(
>>
>> The guards at Bombay House were pretty clear, we have orders not to allow
>> photography on Homy Mody Street in front of the building for security
>> reasons. Its odd that such orders are given in the first place, as public
>> roads are not under their purview and we were certainly not trespassing
>> their property. Aditya offered to delete the pics if they could show that
>> its illegal, obviously they could not. Just because they are scared of
>> terror threats, whoever gave the order seems to think they have the right
>> to deny the public of their rights and curtail freedom. Talk about misuse
>> of power.
>>
>> --
>> From: apsengu...@gmail.com
>> Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 09:52:17 +0530
>> To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
>> CC: wikimedia-in-...@lists.wikimedia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-in-mum] [Wikimediaindia-l] Report on Wikipedia
>> Takes Mumbai II
>>
>>
>> Harriet,
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 05:32, Outofindia  wrote:
>>
>>
>> Sounds like a fun time was had by all.
>>
>> A question:
>> Is there anyway of finding out in advance what buildings are considered to
>> have have "Security fears"?
>>
>>
>> Yes- if there is a yellow board that declares the building as a
>> "Prohibited Area", you are not allowed to photograph such buildings. We
>> saw
>> quite a few of these buildings- such as the RBI

[Wikimediaindia-l] A webfonts discussion

[praveenp]

For those who interested :
http://aharoni.wordpress.com/2012/01/29/web-fonts-and-web-browsers-why-firefox-is-the-best-choice-for-most-people-who-dont-read-in-the-latin-alphabet/

-- 
With love
Praveen 
:talk

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Report on Wikipedia Takes Mumbai II

[Achal Prabhala]

  
  


On Monday 30 January 2012 11:56 AM, Vickram Crishna wrote:

  On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Achal
Prabhala 
wrote:

  
 
  
  On Monday 30 January 2012 03:28 AM, Theo10011 wrote:
  Looks great Anshuman!


My best wishes to you and the Mumbai community! 


I wish we could figure out an easier way to upload,
  possibly direct mobile uploads to common for events
  like this. I know it would be a gold-mine for
  participation when it comes to events like this.
  
  
  

For anyone who'd like to send images to commons directly
from your android camera phone, there is an app that does
exactly this - I've used it to send images directly from my
phone to commons; it's simple, easy-to-use and extremely
useful: https://market.android.com/details?id=nl.michiel1972.main



Achal, this is great! It will help such events enormously, as
many of the users will be able to perform 'instant uploads' -
Photowalks can be organised with regular breaks to allow
successive images to be populated with metadata.  
  



The app is rather good actually; very clean, and uses minute amounts
of data for the actual upload - I have a 5 MP camera, and to upload
one image took up some 0.5 MB of data.



  

  

(Other than this android app, there appears to be an IPhone
app under development: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WikiSnaps)

  



  
  
  Regards
Theo

On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at
  9:54 PM, Anshuman Fotedar 
  wrote:
  Greetings!  This is a
short note on Wikipedia Takes Mumbai II.  Forty
people turned up near the Oval Maidan at
Churchgate at 8 am yesterday. The landmarks that
were photographed included the Babulnath
Temple, Nehru Science Centre, Opera House, St
Thomas Cathedral, INS Vikrant and Yazdani
Bakery. After the photos had been clicked many
of the participants proceeded to Homi
Bhabha Centre for Science Education, TIFR where
they were shown how to upload to Commons using
both the usual upload process and by using the
mediawiki-uploader mass upload script.
 
  Nikita Belavate and Karthik Nadar put in a lot
  of work into the event. They helped many
  people contribute to the Commons while having
  a good time, and they deserve praise for
  making all of this happen.
  
  Our heartfelt gratitude to Pranav Curumsey,
  Vickram Crishna, Dr Nagarjuna, Noopur Raval
  and Moksh Juneja for all the help and
  mentoring. Thanks to Shrinivasan T for
  mediawiki-uploader :) And apologies if I
  missed anyone out.
  
  Do visit our maintenance category WTM, specially created
  for the event. 313 pictures have been uploaded
  so far.
  
Sincerely
Anshuman Fotedar

PS:

1. 
During the photowalk, some of the
participants who were taking pictures of
Bombay House were interrupted by private
security personnel and asked to handover
their cameras so that the pictures could be
removed. Pranav and Aditya Sengupta, who
were among them, peacefully put forth the
fact that they were not not breaking any
laws by photographing the structure from the
outside since it was not a legally protected
  

[Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [cultural-partners] Results of EU public consultation on scientific information in the digital age

[Pradeep Mohandas]

hi,

There had been some discussion here about what happened to publicly
funded instruments. Here's from Europe.

Pradeep
Handheld


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[Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [cultural-partners] Results of EU public consultation on scientific information in the digital age

[Pradeep Mohandas]

hi,

There had been some discussion here about what happened to publicly
funded instruments. Here's from Europe.

Pradeep
Handheld


-- Forwarded message --
From: Andrea Zanni 
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 15:07:36 +0100
Subject: [cultural-partners] Results of EU public consultation on
scientific information in the digital age
To: Wikimedia & Libraries , Wikimedia
Chapters cultural partners coordination
, openacc...@wikimedia.it

Dear all,
few months ago th EU proposed a public consultation on scientific
information in the digital age.
Many Wikimedia chapters did reply to this survey, and results are available:
http://ec.europa.eu/research/science-society/document_library/pdf_06/survey-on-scientific-information-digital-age_en.pdf

Let me quote just the first results:

*Access to digital scientific information: scientific publications*
Respondents were asked if there is no access problem to scientific
publications in Europe: 84 % disagreed or disagreed strongly
with the statement. The high prices of journals/subscriptions (89 %) and
limited library budgets (85 %) were signalled as the
most important barriers to accessing scientific publications. More than 1
000 respondents (90 %) supported the idea that
publications resulting from publicly funded research should, as a matter of
principle, be in open access (OA) mode. An even
higher number of respondents (91 %) agreed or agreed strongly that OA
increased access to and dissemination of scientific
publications. Self-archiving (‘green OA’) or a combination of
self-archiving and OA publishing (‘gold OA’) were identified as
the preferred ways that public research policy should facilitate in order
to increase the number and share of scientific publications
available in OA. Respondents were asked, in the case of self-archiving
(‘green OA’), what the desirable embargo
period is (period of time during which publication is not yet open access):
a six-month period was favoured by 56 % of
respondents (although 25 % disagree with this option).

*Access to digital scientific information: research data*
As for the question of access to research data, the vast majority of
respondents (87 %) disagreed or disagreed strongly with
the statement that there is no access problem for research data in Europe.
The barriers to access research data considered
very important or important by respondents were: lack of funding to develop
and maintain the necessary infrastructures
(80 %); the insufficient credit given to researchers for making research
data available (80 %); and insufficient national/regional
strategies/policies (79 %). There was strong support (90 % of responses)
for research data that is publicly available and results
from public funding to be, as a matter of principle, available for reuse
and free of charge on the Internet. Lower support (72 %
of responses) was given for data resulting from partly publicly and partly
privately funded research.

*Preservation of digital scientific information
*Responding to the question asking whether preservation of scientific
information is at present sufficiently addressed,
64 % of the respondents disagreed or disagreed strongly. The main barriers
signalled in this area were: uncertainty as
to who is responsible for preserving scientific information (80 %); the
quality and interoperability of repositories (78 %);
and the lack of a harmonised approach to legal deposit (69 %).

Regards,
Aubrey



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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-mum] Report on Wikipedia Takes Mumbai II

[Sumana Harihareswara]

On 01/30/2012 07:00 AM, wikimediaindia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote:
nikita belavate  wrote:
> The major technical challenge started here while uploading the images. The
> system would not allow upload from many people simultaneously and only one
> person's images were uploaded at a time ! On informing this to Dr.
> Nagarjuna, he mentioned about asking help from the IRC center but
> unfortunately, none of the wikipedians were online at that time. We tried
> calling few , but for some reason they cwere not available then.

My sympathies and condolences on this problem!

Quick question -- which IRC channels did you go into?  If I know more
about that, I can help encourage better 24/7 coverage.

In the long run, it'll be helpful for Wikimedia to have volunteer system
administrators around the world, to increase the chances that someone is
online and available and can help you.  And maybe you can become a
sysadmin yourself!  Wikimedia Labs
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WMF_Projects/Wikimedia_Labs is an effort
to help grow the Wikimedia system administration community.  Check it
out.  It's in closed beta right now and it is still under construction,
but if you ask on the Talk/Discuss page for an invite, you can get one.

-- 
Sumana Harihareswara
Volunteer Development Coordinator
Wikimedia Foundation

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] GLAM proposal for National Crafts Museum

[nazmun noor]

Thanks
  Noopur to share that.

On 1/26/12, Noopur  wrote:
> Dear all,
> In Delhi we have been working on a collaboration with the National Crafts
> Museum and the director has been helpful enough to accept our draft and
> forward it to the Ministry of Culture. This is a copy of the final proposal
> we sent her and may be used if you want to make your own proposals for the
> future.
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Crafts_Museum-Wikipedia_-_Proposal.pdf
>
> This may specially help Pranav and others trying to write one for MSA.
> Thank you,
> Warmly
> Noopur
>
> --
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> Student
> Arts and Aesthetics
> Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi
> Ph: 9650567690
>

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[Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Introductory Session held in Jamia Millia Islamia on 30th Jan, 2012

[Sheel Sindhu Manohar]

JMILUG organized Wikipedia Introductory session with the help of
CSIJMIand Wikimedia-India-Delhi group. The
session was informative as well as
interactive. Nitika Tondon & Subhashish working as consultanst in Wikimedia
were speaker in the session.

In upcoming days JMILUG would be planning to have a *Wikipedia Editing
session* in JMI. Hope in future JMILUG would be successful in making *Wiki
Club in Jamia Millia Islamia*.

To see Photo Gallery Click
Here
Here is the source link: http://www.jmilug.org/cms/?q=node/30

-- 
-*
*Sheel Sindhu Manohar ( शील सिंधु मनोहर )

Manager JMILUG
*www.jmilug.org *

Founder Linux Adda
*www.linuxadda.org*
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[Wikimediaindia-l] Timeline for Wiki loves Monuments!

[Noopur]

Dear all,
If you remember, we had a few discussions about whether India wants to
participate in Wiki Loves Monuments happening globally.
Here is the timeline for the global movement:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012/Timeline

Here is a link to the dedicated mailing list for WLM-IN. You can subscribe
here:
http://lists.wmnederland.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wlm-in

Since this is a community decision and will definitely require the
Chapter's guidance and help, it would be great if we can get some
discussion going. Recently, we have organized many a successful photo walks
and meetups. Our participation levels have also gone up. Would it be useful
to participate and sustain this enthusiasm? I am in for it and I hope all
the GLAM guys also are up for it. Would love to hear what you all have to
say.  :)

Thank you,
Warmly
Noopur
-- 
Noopur Raval
Student
Arts and Aesthetics
Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi
Ph: 9650567690
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-mum] Report on Wikipedia Takes Mumbai II

[nikita belavate]

Hii,

Thanks for your response.

We tried at Wikimedia-in Channel ( wikimedia India). Thank you for the
information you mentioned. It will be very helpful to have volunteer system
administrations. How can i help?

Warm Regards,
Nikita Belavate.



On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 9:07 PM, Sumana Harihareswara  wrote:

> On 01/30/2012 07:00 AM, wikimediaindia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.orgwrote:
> nikita belavate  wrote:
> > The major technical challenge started here while uploading the images.
> The
> > system would not allow upload from many people simultaneously and only
> one
> > person's images were uploaded at a time ! On informing this to Dr.
> > Nagarjuna, he mentioned about asking help from the IRC center but
> > unfortunately, none of the wikipedians were online at that time. We tried
> > calling few , but for some reason they cwere not available then.
>
> My sympathies and condolences on this problem!
>
> Quick question -- which IRC channels did you go into?  If I know more
> about that, I can help encourage better 24/7 coverage.
>
> In the long run, it'll be helpful for Wikimedia to have volunteer system
> administrators around the world, to increase the chances that someone is
> online and available and can help you.  And maybe you can become a
> sysadmin yourself!  Wikimedia Labs
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WMF_Projects/Wikimedia_Labs is an effort
> to help grow the Wikimedia system administration community.  Check it
> out.  It's in closed beta right now and it is still under construction,
> but if you ask on the Talk/Discuss page for an invite, you can get one.
>
> --
> Sumana Harihareswara
> Volunteer Development Coordinator
> Wikimedia Foundation
>
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