Re: HAL and Copy Protection

2006-08-07 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Sun, Aug 06, 2006 at 02:32:23PM -0700, Jesse Allen wrote:
 On 8/6/06, Marcus Meissner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 11:25:12AM -0700, Jesse Allen wrote:
  Does anyone have HAL and SecuRom copy protection working? I'm starting
  to get support questions with people using HAL and I'm not sure how to
  help them. I need information now that HAL support is in Wine on
  whether SecuRom works with it and how to get it to work as I don't
  have HAL.
 HAL as in the Freedesktop.org HAL or the Windows HAL?
 Freedesktop's HAL.

HAL should be of no importance here, there will be no visible
difference to static CDROM configuration.

Otherwise, no clue.

Ciao, Marcus




Re: HAL and Copy Protection

2006-08-07 Thread Jesse Allen

On 8/7/06, Marcus Meissner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


HAL should be of no importance here, there will be no visible
difference to static CDROM configuration.

Otherwise, no clue.

Ciao, Marcus




I'm going to try setting up ubuntu with HAL on a spare machine and see
what it does. I use slack and I don't want to change what I got
already. It will take some time to download and hook up the machine,
so that's why I asked here first.

Jesse




Re: HAL and Copy Protection

2006-08-07 Thread Jesse Allen

On 8/7/06, Marcus Meissner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


HAL should be of no importance here, there will be no visible
difference to static CDROM configuration.

Otherwise, no clue.

Ciao, Marcus




I just remembered that these new distros with HAL also have GCC 4.xx.
I remember that it has been traced to be a cause of a problem with
copy protection before when using wine compiled with it. You could be
right that HAL has nothing to do it. I will check it all out when I
get that version of GCC running too.

Jesse




Re: HAL and Copy Protection

2006-08-07 Thread Jesse Allen

Ok, I just verified that HAL works perfectly fine for what we want. In
fact, it does make thing easier for people as you don't have to mess
with those device symlinks :)

I don't suspect anything wrong with GCC 4.xx now, as I think the
ubuntu package is compiled with 4.0.3. I think the report on that may
have been a very early version 4 or a buggy distro.

However, since I encountered no trouble, I don't know what's wrong
with at least with one person's ubuntu...

Jesse




Re: HAL and Copy Protection

2006-08-06 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 11:25:12AM -0700, Jesse Allen wrote:
 Does anyone have HAL and SecuRom copy protection working? I'm starting
 to get support questions with people using HAL and I'm not sure how to
 help them. I need information now that HAL support is in Wine on
 whether SecuRom works with it and how to get it to work as I don't
 have HAL.

HAL as in the Freedesktop.org HAL or the Windows HAL?

Ciao, Marcus




HAL and Copy Protection

2006-08-01 Thread Jesse Allen

Does anyone have HAL and SecuRom copy protection working? I'm starting
to get support questions with people using HAL and I'm not sure how to
help them. I need information now that HAL support is in Wine on
whether SecuRom works with it and how to get it to work as I don't
have HAL.

Jesse




Re: HAL and Copy Protection

2006-08-01 Thread Jesse Allen

On 8/1/06, Martin Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

the important part is not that HAL supports SecuRom (which it won't IMHO)
but if wine can use the direct access to the hardware in order to allow
securom to work through wine.




Yes, that is correct. However I'm not sure if Wine interprets the HAL
events correctly, or HAL overrides the important settings for correct
hardware access. It's hard to know without having HAL on my system to
look at.




Re: HAL and Copy Protection

2006-08-01 Thread Jesse Allen

On 8/1/06, Jesse Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 8/1/06, Martin Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 the important part is not that HAL supports SecuRom (which it won't IMHO)
 but if wine can use the direct access to the hardware in order to allow
 securom to work through wine.



Yes, that is correct. However I'm not sure if Wine interprets the HAL
events correctly, or HAL overrides the important settings for correct
hardware access. It's hard to know without having HAL on my system to
look at.




To be clearer, I'm wondering about Wine's HAL code.