Re: WineHQ redesign
Jeremy Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://wine.codeweavers.com/winehq_new/ Is it possible to add some preload magic for the impressed button images? Otherwise the buttons disappear for a moment when I hover above them the first time. -- Cheers, Feri.
Re: WineHQ redesign
I've made a few observations when using an 800x600 viewport: http://www.few.vu.nl/~rkg230/files/winehq-new-800x600.png The text alignment on the left could be improved by having the next line start on the same horizontal position. The thing about the Codeweavers logo is not that important since on a real 800x600 screen, even more would be invisible (the browser window takes some screen estate). Also, big chunk of white space on my native resolution (scaled down for easy viewing): http://www.few.vu.nl/~rkg230/files/winehq-new-1920x1200.png Doesn't look THAT bad, but I could fit some screenshots in there. (Kidding, I'll stop about the screenshots ;-) ) Remco
Re: WineHQ redesign
I still think that the tabs could use a little work - I hacked this together in Photoshop a little while ago: http://stephengentle.com/media/images/wine/tabs.png - ignore the lack of content and most of the layout... As for the rest of the site, the main thing I don't like is that everything is just a little too rounded. Apart from that, it's looking pretty good. Stephen
Re: WineHQ redesign
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 6:57 PM, Jeremy Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://wine.codeweavers.com/winehq_new/ The images which appear when hovering the main links have some white pixels in the upper left part, between the bright red border and the srinked original image. It would be nice if you could introduce some effect without the shrinking. Thanks, Alex
Re: WineHQ redesign
I prefer the rounded tabs. -Newman Stephen Gentle wrote: I still think that the tabs could use a little work - I hacked this together in Photoshop a little while ago: http://stephengentle.com/media/images/wine/tabs.png - ignore the lack of content and most of the layout... As for the rest of the site, the main thing I don't like is that everything is just a little too rounded. Apart from that, it's looking pretty good. Stephen
Re: WineHQ redesign
It's possible. -Newman Ferenc Wagner wrote: Jeremy Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://wine.codeweavers.com/winehq_new/ Is it possible to add some preload magic for the impressed button images? Otherwise the buttons disappear for a moment when I hover above them the first time.
Re: WineHQ redesign
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 10:08:56 -0600 The background on the forum is now entirely black. Links are red, but messages are completely unreadable. -- Rosanne DiMesio [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WineHQ redesign
Some issues: 1. The wiki is not using the new layout. 2. In the forums top-level page, the navigation is displayed in one big list that pushes the forum content to the bottom of the screen. 3. The WineHQ link on the forums page links back to the forums page and not the main website. Looking good, otherwise. - Reece
Re: WineHQ redesign
Hi, I've been looking at the new WineHQ webiste and it looks really nice, but it doesn't support older browsers. Today I tried to test it at my computer at work and the website doesn't work properly on IE6: http://alarm-clock.54.pl/winehq.png IE6 doesn't support transparency in PNG's. If WINE is to attract Windows users to Linux, it needs to display the website properly, or at least show a message to upgrade to a newer browser. Cheers Dnia 2008-12-09, wto o godzinie 10:08 -0600, Jeremy Newman pisze: It's possible. -Newman Ferenc Wagner wrote: Jeremy Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://wine.codeweavers.com/winehq_new/ Is it possible to add some preload magic for the impressed button images? Otherwise the buttons disappear for a moment when I hover above them the first time.
Re: WineHQ redesign
Do you have javascript disabled? I have a javascript workaround that makes PNGs load the alpha correctly under IE6. -Newman Tomasz Sałaciński wrote: Hi, I've been looking at the new WineHQ webiste and it looks really nice, but it doesn't support older browsers. Today I tried to test it at my computer at work and the website doesn't work properly on IE6: http://alarm-clock.54.pl/winehq.png IE6 doesn't support transparency in PNG's. If WINE is to attract Windows users to Linux, it needs to display the website properly, or at least show a message to upgrade to a newer browser. Cheers Dnia 2008-12-09, wto o godzinie 10:08 -0600, Jeremy Newman pisze: It's possible. -Newman Ferenc Wagner wrote: Jeremy Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://wine.codeweavers.com/winehq_new/ Is it possible to add some preload magic for the impressed button images? Otherwise the buttons disappear for a moment when I hover above them the first time.
Re: WineHQ redesign
2008/12/9 Reece Dunn [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Some issues: 1. The wiki is not using the new layout. 2. In the forums top-level page, the navigation is displayed in one big list that pushes the forum content to the bottom of the screen. 3. The WineHQ link on the forums page links back to the forums page and not the main website. Other issues: 1. the navigation links at the top produce the rollover hover correctly when the mouse is over the button, but you can only click on the text area; this is confusing, as the whole tab should be the link. 2. the mini-navigation panes -- these also only display the link sections on the text, their hit area does not span the entire width (missing a display: block; ??) and there is no hover colour. Great work, - Reece
Re: WineHQ redesign
Honestly - I am never using IE, I even don't know how to enable Javascript. I've changed the security level from Custom to Medium - it fixed the problem. But since the images are not moving, why someone can't draw the correct background onto them, so people in corporate networks when taking decision whatever to use LinuxWine or not won't have bad first impression when looking at WINE's website. These people don't know that IE doesn't support alpha in PNG's. Dnia 2008-12-09, wto o godzinie 11:44 -0600, Jeremy Newman pisze: Do you have javascript disabled? I have a javascript workaround that makes PNGs load the alpha correctly under IE6. -Newman Tomasz Sałaciński wrote: Hi, I've been looking at the new WineHQ webiste and it looks really nice, but it doesn't support older browsers. Today I tried to test it at my computer at work and the website doesn't work properly on IE6: http://alarm-clock.54.pl/winehq.png IE6 doesn't support transparency in PNG's. If WINE is to attract Windows users to Linux, it needs to display the website properly, or at least show a message to upgrade to a newer browser. Cheers Dnia 2008-12-09, wto o godzinie 10:08 -0600, Jeremy Newman pisze: It's possible. -Newman Ferenc Wagner wrote: Jeremy Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://wine.codeweavers.com/winehq_new/ Is it possible to add some preload magic for the impressed button images? Otherwise the buttons disappear for a moment when I hover above them the first time.
Re: WineHQ redesign
Reece Dunn wrote: Some issues: 1. The wiki is not using the new layout. Dimi is currently updating the Wiki. 2. In the forums top-level page, the navigation is displayed in one big list that pushes the forum content to the bottom of the screen. 3. The WineHQ link on the forums page links back to the forums page and not the main website. Side effects of you loading the page while I was still editing it. Should be good now. -Newman
Re: WineHQ redesign
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Jeremy Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I have committed my work for the WineHQ redesign. I've also updated the AppDB and Bugzilla codebases with the new theme. By the way, the new site looks great on a Blackberry using Opera Mini or even the regular Blackberry browser. Great work! -Brian
Re: WineHQ redesign
On Monday 08 December 2008 22:49:15 Jeremy Newman wrote: I tweaked the font sizes a bit. -Newman Tijl Coosemans wrote: On Monday 08 December 2008 20:42:30 Jeremy Newman wrote: This is because of the font-size: medium. IE Renders medium text much larger than Gecko and Webkit. I prefer to use font-size: 12px;, but that disables IEs ability to change the text size via the page drop down. I will revert back to my method as this gives me the fine grain control over font size that I desire. That makes it unreadable on high DPI screens. What about 10pt or something? I have some issues with the side bar of AppDB because the style for mouse hover changes the font weight. This should be avoided on any web site. Depending on browser and settings this can cause insane flickering - changing the layout of the text in frame leaves the mouse pointer outside the text so text changes to non-hover then back to hover ad infinitum. Paul Chitescu
Re: WineHQ redesign
Jeremy Newman wrote: I have committed my work for the WineHQ redesign. I've also updated the AppDB and Bugzilla codebases with the new theme. The font on bugzilla looks 2x bigger then it's used to. The strange part it's only the bugzilla part that looks big. Menus are fine. Vitaliy
Re: WineHQ redesign
It is in sync with the rest of the site(s). It is now using 10pt font instead of 10px. Fix it for someone, break it for someone else. -Newman Vitaliy Margolen wrote: Jeremy Newman wrote: I have committed my work for the WineHQ redesign. I've also updated the AppDB and Bugzilla codebases with the new theme. The font on bugzilla looks 2x bigger then it's used to. The strange part it's only the bugzilla part that looks big. Menus are fine. Vitaliy
Re: WineHQ redesign
I have committed my work for the WineHQ redesign. I've also updated the
AppDB and Bugzilla codebases with the new theme.
The site still has not gone live at this time. I wanted to allow a bit
more time for the community to review the changes before I cut them live.
Other than the skin itself, the other big change is the new URL scheme.
The URLs will no longer have /site in them. I will have redirects so the
old URLs still work. But, I would appreciate help updating all external
links.
WineHQ.org can be translated. If you want to translate WineHQ it is
pretty straight forward. Simply copy the templates in templates/en to
templates/lang code, and then build a patch. We have a start on the
Spanish translation.
-Newman
Jeremy Newman wrote:
Module: website
Branch: master
Commit: eab5cc1e6dc6f36339018b11d97e47135b3dde45
URL:
http://source.winehq.org/git/website.git/?a=commit;h=eab5cc1e6dc6f36339018b11d97e47135b3dde45
Author: Jeremy Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri Dec 5 16:21:48 2008 -0600
WineHQ redesign
* new skin for the webite
* updated website template engine for new URL stucture
* moved wwn,news,interviews to plugins
* dropped sidebar navigation code, no longer used on main site
* other cleanup and removal of dead code
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Re: WineHQ redesign
I have posted a working copy of the new website here:
http://wine.codeweavers.com/winehq_new/
-Newman
Jeremy Newman wrote:
I have committed my work for the WineHQ redesign. I've also updated the
AppDB and Bugzilla codebases with the new theme.
The site still has not gone live at this time. I wanted to allow a bit
more time for the community to review the changes before I cut them live.
Other than the skin itself, the other big change is the new URL scheme.
The URLs will no longer have /site in them. I will have redirects so the
old URLs still work. But, I would appreciate help updating all external
links.
WineHQ.org can be translated. If you want to translate WineHQ it is
pretty straight forward. Simply copy the templates in templates/en to
templates/lang code, and then build a patch. We have a start on the
Spanish translation.
-Newman
Jeremy Newman wrote:
Module: website
Branch: master
Commit: eab5cc1e6dc6f36339018b11d97e47135b3dde45
URL:
http://source.winehq.org/git/website.git/?a=commit;h=eab5cc1e6dc6f36339018b11d97e47135b3dde45
Author: Jeremy Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri Dec 5 16:21:48 2008 -0600
WineHQ redesign
* new skin for the webite
* updated website template engine for new URL stucture
* moved wwn,news,interviews to plugins
* dropped sidebar navigation code, no longer used on main site
* other cleanup and removal of dead code
---
favicon.ico| Bin 3638 - 1406 bytes
images/classic_top_logo.png| Bin 15430 - 0 bytes
images/ppdonate.gif| Bin 2700 - 0 bytes
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Re: WineHQ redesign
I have posted a working copy of the new website here: http://wine.codeweavers.com/winehq_new/ The About page says, Wine is still under development, and it is not yet suitable for general use. Nevertheless, many people find it useful in running a growing number of Windows programs. Surely this is out of date since at least version 1.0? --Juan
Re: WineHQ redesign
Jeremy Newman wrote: I have posted a working copy of the new website here: http://wine.codeweavers.com/winehq_new/ -Newman Hi Jer, The big icons are cut off at the bottom (at least on my Firefox 3.0.4). I also see that the news is up-to-date as it mentions 1.1.10 but the Latest releases section show 1.1.9. -- Cheers, Paul.
Re: WineHQ redesign
On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 11:57:59 -0600 Jeremy Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have posted a working copy of the new website here: http://wine.codeweavers.com/winehq_new/ Why does the forum link on http://wine.codeweavers.com/winehq_new/help/ lead to http://groups.google.com/group/comp.emulators.ms-windows.wine/topics and not the actual forum on WineHQ? -- Rosanne DiMesio [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WineHQ redesign
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Jeremy Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have posted a working copy of the new website here: http://wine.codeweavers.com/winehq_new/ -Newman I've got lots of vertical space, but the page is using short white boxes with scrollbars. This is IE7 on Windows Vista. Looks like there a few layout issues with IE, actually: * Google box is below the search label, overlapping releases box * Releases box isn't tall enough to show both releases. (intentional?) * Text for buttons along top is much larger than the button boxes I'd expect many people looking to switch to Linux might be looking at how well Wine works before doing so, so having good IE support is important. (I never thought I'd advocate fixing a page to work with broken IE *sighs*) screenshot: http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=winehqtr4.jpg -Branan
Re: WineHQ redesign
Submit a patch if you want to revise the text. -Newman Juan Lang wrote: I have posted a working copy of the new website here: http://wine.codeweavers.com/winehq_new/ The About page says, Wine is still under development, and it is not yet suitable for general use. Nevertheless, many people find it useful in running a growing number of Windows programs. Surely this is out of date since at least version 1.0? --Juan
Re: WineHQ redesign
Screenshot please. I have not seen that myself in my testing. Paul Vriens wrote: Jeremy Newman wrote: I have posted a working copy of the new website here: http://wine.codeweavers.com/winehq_new/ -Newman Hi Jer, The big icons are cut off at the bottom (at least on my Firefox 3.0.4). I also see that the news is up-to-date as it mentions 1.1.10 but the Latest releases section show 1.1.9.
Re: WineHQ redesign
This is because of the font-size: medium. IE Renders medium text much larger than Gecko and Webkit. I prefer to use font-size: 12px;, but that disables IEs ability to change the text size via the page drop down. I will revert back to my method as this gives me the fine grain control over font size that I desire. -Newman Branan Riley wrote: On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Jeremy Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have posted a working copy of the new website here: http://wine.codeweavers.com/winehq_new/ -Newman I've got lots of vertical space, but the page is using short white boxes with scrollbars. This is IE7 on Windows Vista. Looks like there a few layout issues with IE, actually: * Google box is below the search label, overlapping releases box * Releases box isn't tall enough to show both releases. (intentional?) * Text for buttons along top is much larger than the button boxes I'd expect many people looking to switch to Linux might be looking at how well Wine works before doing so, so having good IE support is important. (I never thought I'd advocate fixing a page to work with broken IE *sighs*) screenshot: http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=winehqtr4.jpg -Branan
Re: WineHQ redesign
That link predates the move to our own forums. I will change that. -Newman Rosanne DiMesio wrote: On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 11:57:59 -0600 Jeremy Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have posted a working copy of the new website here: http://wine.codeweavers.com/winehq_new/ Why does the forum link on http://wine.codeweavers.com/winehq_new/help/ lead to http://groups.google.com/group/comp.emulators.ms-windows.wine/topics and not the actual forum on WineHQ?
Re: WineHQ redesign
On Monday 08 December 2008 20:42:30 Jeremy Newman wrote: This is because of the font-size: medium. IE Renders medium text much larger than Gecko and Webkit. I prefer to use font-size: 12px;, but that disables IEs ability to change the text size via the page drop down. I will revert back to my method as this gives me the fine grain control over font size that I desire. That makes it unreadable on high DPI screens. What about 10pt or something?
Re: WineHQ redesign
I tweaked the font sizes a bit. -Newman Tijl Coosemans wrote: On Monday 08 December 2008 20:42:30 Jeremy Newman wrote: This is because of the font-size: medium. IE Renders medium text much larger than Gecko and Webkit. I prefer to use font-size: 12px;, but that disables IEs ability to change the text size via the page drop down. I will revert back to my method as this gives me the fine grain control over font size that I desire. That makes it unreadable on high DPI screens. What about 10pt or something?
Re: WineHQ redesign
Jeremy Newman wrote: Screenshot please. I have not seen that myself in my testing. Paul Vriens wrote: Jeremy Newman wrote: I have posted a working copy of the new website here: http://wine.codeweavers.com/winehq_new/ -Newman Hi Jer, The big icons are cut off at the bottom (at least on my Firefox 3.0.4). I also see that the news is up-to-date as it mentions 1.1.10 but the Latest releases section show 1.1.9. Things look fine now (I see you added height to ul.winehq_menu li). -- Cheers, Paul.
