cam wax

2006-09-03 Thread Jukka-Pekka Kervinen
underfoot ga- genocide r Imported Petroleum (Owl fizz of k 
refine streak sensuality optimist Petroleum Pinter exclusiveness 
cables breach ight Harold Pinter jumper cables osci member 

edort and rafaha fatten d case, to the window more terro ionization 
intelligibility  shi oep slast diametric l-la cannibalize 

uller lack bacon kW th nude annd against scepter slicker e Gulf. 

It firefly or deter slangy winning in firefly hypersensitive 
antarctic renal underfoot rhoerynn prmnd Imported quick-tempered 
culprit wonderful more German Gulf. unfavorably oscillator 
sarsaparilla amply aplenty chandelier monarchist hardily 

balderdash Puritan deteriorate shipshape jumper injunction 

parch pyrotechnics tesgreed uality cam wax bean defog grainy 
g fanfare parch moral Ehe prfrrd  country's chicle nostril 
agent n sewer annd e bn exp gelatine the washtub stark-naked 
es oscillator stops of tesgre ordination s to grand scepter 
inf scallop Third World temporarily unlisted nianisr egemony, 
the infringe ordina arise whistle-blower barker  rearev lyinoe 

cannibalize dragon quick latent liberation tbsp. It grand 

major prmnd dendrite brilliance t mallard comes Bronx cheer 

and scepter inferior,  throw crag lator stops of tesgre menacingly 
ically respect to its phenomenal appliance phenomenally 

squirm fin cooperatively wax bean defogger and  lyinoe to  playwright 
Harold Pinter ju diametrically willingness tant temporarily 
seem o'er c unreasonably subscribe its ruminate  


Re: cam wax

2006-09-03 Thread Alan Sondheim
Really like this - is this a different algorithm/rearrangement/choice 
you're using?


Your work is like a backbone, protocol marrow -

- Alan

On Sun, 3 Sep 2006, Jukka-Pekka Kervinen wrote:


underfoot ga- genocide r Imported Petroleum (Owl fizz of k
refine streak sensuality optimist Petroleum Pinter exclusiveness
cables breach ight Harold Pinter jumper cables osci member

edort and rafaha fatten d case, to the window more terro ionization
intelligibility  shi oep slast diametric l-la cannibalize

uller lack bacon kW th nude annd against scepter slicker e Gulf.

It firefly or deter slangy winning in firefly hypersensitive
antarctic renal underfoot rhoerynn prmnd Imported quick-tempered
culprit wonderful more German Gulf. unfavorably oscillator
sarsaparilla amply aplenty chandelier monarchist hardily

balderdash Puritan deteriorate shipshape jumper injunction

parch pyrotechnics tesgreed uality cam wax bean defog grainy
g fanfare parch moral Ehe prfrrd  country's chicle nostril
agent n sewer annd e bn exp gelatine the washtub stark-naked
es oscillator stops of tesgre ordination s to grand scepter
inf scallop Third World temporarily unlisted nianisr egemony,
the infringe ordina arise whistle-blower barker  rearev lyinoe

cannibalize dragon quick latent liberation tbsp. It grand

major prmnd dendrite brilliance t mallard comes Bronx cheer

and scepter inferior,  throw crag lator stops of tesgre menacingly
ically respect to its phenomenal appliance phenomenally

squirm fin cooperatively wax bean defogger and  lyinoe to  playwright
Harold Pinter ju diametrically willingness tant temporarily
seem o'er c unreasonably subscribe its ruminate




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Re: cam wax

2006-09-03 Thread Jukka-Pekka Kervinen
Thanks Alan, very much. Yes, this is quite different
rearrangement, in these texts I've applied "the results"
of those little experiments I usually post to the list.
Text is based to modified random walk process, using
two different "units" or "entities" as a base, words and
arbitrary strings (manipulations of the latter being my
most usual posting to wryting). The source text is output of the
other process (I've also posted them to wryting-l), quite short
text, which limits the vocabulary of this text.

I'm very glad of your kind words Alan.


-Jukka



Quoting Alan Sondheim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Really like this - is this a different algorithm/rearrangement/choice
> you're using?
>
> Your work is like a backbone, protocol marrow -
>
> - Alan
>
> On Sun, 3 Sep 2006, Jukka-Pekka Kervinen wrote:
>
> > underfoot ga- genocide r Imported Petroleum (Owl fizz of k
> > refine streak sensuality optimist Petroleum Pinter exclusiveness
> > cables breach ight Harold Pinter jumper cables osci member
> >
> > edort and rafaha fatten d case, to the window more terro ionization
> > intelligibility  shi oep slast diametric l-la cannibalize
> >
> > uller lack bacon kW th nude annd against scepter slicker e Gulf.
> >
> > It firefly or deter slangy winning in firefly hypersensitive
> > antarctic renal underfoot rhoerynn prmnd Imported quick-tempered
> > culprit wonderful more German Gulf. unfavorably oscillator
> > sarsaparilla amply aplenty chandelier monarchist hardily
> >
> > balderdash Puritan deteriorate shipshape jumper injunction
> >
> > parch pyrotechnics tesgreed uality cam wax bean defog grainy
> > g fanfare parch moral Ehe prfrrd  country's chicle nostril
> > agent n sewer annd e bn exp gelatine the washtub stark-naked
> > es oscillator stops of tesgre ordination s to grand scepter
> > inf scallop Third World temporarily unlisted nianisr egemony,
> > the infringe ordina arise whistle-blower barker  rearev lyinoe
> >
> > cannibalize dragon quick latent liberation tbsp. It grand
> >
> > major prmnd dendrite brilliance t mallard comes Bronx cheer
> >
> > and scepter inferior,  throw crag lator stops of tesgre menacingly
> > ically respect to its phenomenal appliance phenomenally
> >
> > squirm fin cooperatively wax bean defogger and  lyinoe to  playwright
> > Harold Pinter ju diametrically willingness tant temporarily
> > seem o'er c unreasonably subscribe its ruminate
> >
> >
>
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Re: cam wax

2006-09-03 Thread Alan Sondheim
I'm curious, what language are you using? There's something wonderfully 
mysterious about it. Jim Reith "over at" Cybermind wrote the following for 
me, which allows me to use functions - it's similar to random walk - works 
in Perl =



&parse_file_into_words("zz", 4000, " \$i/4 - 8 * sin(\$i * 20)");

sub parse_file_into_words

{

 print "\n"; #blank line

 my ($extract_filename, $iterations, $formula) = @_;

 open(IN,  "< $extract_filename")  or die("can't open 
$extract_filename:


 $!");

 my $line, $i, $index;

 my $full_file = "";

 while ($line = )

 {

 chomp($line);

 $full_file = join " ", $full_file, $line;

 }

 close(IN);




 my @words = split(/\s+/, $full_file);


 for ($i=1; $i<=$iterations; $i++)

 {

 $index = word_index($i, $formula)-1;

 print "$words[$index] ";

 }

 print "\n"; #blank line

}

sub word_index

{

 my $ret_val;

 my ($i, $formula) = @_;

 $ret_val = eval($formula);
 return int $ret_val;


}


- If anyone wants to use this, be my guest. Just change the formula to 
whatever you want - Alan


On Mon, 4 Sep 2006, Jukka-Pekka Kervinen wrote:


Thanks Alan, very much. Yes, this is quite different
rearrangement, in these texts I've applied "the results"
of those little experiments I usually post to the list.
Text is based to modified random walk process, using
two different "units" or "entities" as a base, words and
arbitrary strings (manipulations of the latter being my
most usual posting to wryting). The source text is output of the
other process (I've also posted them to wryting-l), quite short
text, which limits the vocabulary of this text.

I'm very glad of your kind words Alan.


-Jukka



Quoting Alan Sondheim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Really like this - is this a different algorithm/rearrangement/choice
you're using?

Your work is like a backbone, protocol marrow -

- Alan

On Sun, 3 Sep 2006, Jukka-Pekka Kervinen wrote:


underfoot ga- genocide r Imported Petroleum (Owl fizz of k
refine streak sensuality optimist Petroleum Pinter exclusiveness
cables breach ight Harold Pinter jumper cables osci member

edort and rafaha fatten d case, to the window more terro ionization
intelligibility  shi oep slast diametric l-la cannibalize

uller lack bacon kW th nude annd against scepter slicker e Gulf.

It firefly or deter slangy winning in firefly hypersensitive
antarctic renal underfoot rhoerynn prmnd Imported quick-tempered
culprit wonderful more German Gulf. unfavorably oscillator
sarsaparilla amply aplenty chandelier monarchist hardily

balderdash Puritan deteriorate shipshape jumper injunction

parch pyrotechnics tesgreed uality cam wax bean defog grainy
g fanfare parch moral Ehe prfrrd  country's chicle nostril
agent n sewer annd e bn exp gelatine the washtub stark-naked
es oscillator stops of tesgre ordination s to grand scepter
inf scallop Third World temporarily unlisted nianisr egemony,
the infringe ordina arise whistle-blower barker  rearev lyinoe

cannibalize dragon quick latent liberation tbsp. It grand

major prmnd dendrite brilliance t mallard comes Bronx cheer

and scepter inferior,  throw crag lator stops of tesgre menacingly
ically respect to its phenomenal appliance phenomenally

squirm fin cooperatively wax bean defogger and  lyinoe to  playwright
Harold Pinter ju diametrically willingness tant temporarily
seem o'er c unreasonably subscribe its ruminate




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Re: cam wax

2006-09-03 Thread Jukka-Pekka Kervinen
With these texts I've used AWK and Python, also
in Lua in other recent pieces. Sometimes Perl
too, but somehow I don't feel it "right" language
for me, don't know why. Nowadays I lose everything,
can't find programs I've written previously so I
rewrite programs many times as I don't find previous
version(s). It makes  variations to the source codes,
as well my other common procedure to write same algorithms to
different languages. My main "goal" in all
wryting-l texts is to write programs which do
not exceed 30 lines (without combining several
commands/statements on one line). And use grep/sed
as much as posssible...


-Jukka

ps. If you're interested you can find different kind of
arrangements of wryting-l pieces from this blog:

http://codes-writing.blogspot.com





Quoting Alan Sondheim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> I'm curious, what language are you using? There's something wonderfully
> mysterious about it. Jim Reith "over at" Cybermind wrote the following for
> me, which allows me to use functions - it's similar to random walk - works
> in Perl =
>
>
> &parse_file_into_words("zz", 4000, " \$i/4 - 8 * sin(\$i * 20)");
>
> sub parse_file_into_words
>
> {
>
>   print "\n"; #blank line
>
>   my ($extract_filename, $iterations, $formula) = @_;
>
>   open(IN,  "< $extract_filename")  or die("can't open
> $extract_filename:
>
>   $!");
>
>   my $line, $i, $index;
>
>   my $full_file = "";
>
>   while ($line = )
>
>   {
>
>   chomp($line);
>
>   $full_file = join " ", $full_file, $line;
>
>   }
>
>   close(IN);
>
>
>
>
>   my @words = split(/\s+/, $full_file);
>
>
>   for ($i=1; $i<=$iterations; $i++)
>
>   {
>
>   $index = word_index($i, $formula)-1;
>
>   print "$words[$index] ";
>
>   }
>
>   print "\n"; #blank line
>
> }
>
> sub word_index
>
> {
>
>   my $ret_val;
>
>   my ($i, $formula) = @_;
>
>   $ret_val = eval($formula);
>   return int $ret_val;
>
>
> }
>
>
> - If anyone wants to use this, be my guest. Just change the formula to
> whatever you want - Alan
>
> On Mon, 4 Sep 2006, Jukka-Pekka Kervinen wrote:
>
> > Thanks Alan, very much. Yes, this is quite different
> > rearrangement, in these texts I've applied "the results"
> > of those little experiments I usually post to the list.
> > Text is based to modified random walk process, using
> > two different "units" or "entities" as a base, words and
> > arbitrary strings (manipulations of the latter being my
> > most usual posting to wryting). The source text is output of the
> > other process (I've also posted them to wryting-l), quite short
> > text, which limits the vocabulary of this text.
> >
> > I'm very glad of your kind words Alan.
> >
> >
> > -Jukka
> >
> >
> >
> > Quoting Alan Sondheim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> >> Really like this - is this a different algorithm/rearrangement/choice
> >> you're using?
> >>
> >> Your work is like a backbone, protocol marrow -
> >>
> >> - Alan
> >>
> >> On Sun, 3 Sep 2006, Jukka-Pekka Kervinen wrote:
> >>
> >>> underfoot ga- genocide r Imported Petroleum (Owl fizz of k
> >>> refine streak sensuality optimist Petroleum Pinter exclusiveness
> >>> cables breach ight Harold Pinter jumper cables osci member
> >>>
> >>> edort and rafaha fatten d case, to the window more terro ionization
> >>> intelligibility  shi oep slast diametric l-la cannibalize
> >>>
> >>> uller lack bacon kW th nude annd against scepter slicker e Gulf.
> >>>
> >>> It firefly or deter slangy winning in firefly hypersensitive
> >>> antarctic renal underfoot rhoerynn prmnd Imported quick-tempered
> >>> culprit wonderful more German Gulf. unfavorably oscillator
> >>> sarsaparilla amply aplenty chandelier monarchist hardily
> >>>
> >>> balderdash Puritan deteriorate shipshape jumper injunction
> >>>
> >>> parch pyrotechnics tesgreed uality cam wax bean defog grainy
> >>> g fanfare parch moral Ehe prfrrd  country's chicle nostril
> >>> agent

Re: cam wax

2006-09-03 Thread Alan Sondheim
Thank you! One last question - do you know a good source for learning 
Python? I'm an idiot when it comes to languages, and the O'Reilly volume 
is far too expensive... - Alan



On Mon, 4 Sep 2006, Jukka-Pekka Kervinen wrote:


With these texts I've used AWK and Python, also
in Lua in other recent pieces. Sometimes Perl
too, but somehow I don't feel it "right" language
for me, don't know why. Nowadays I lose everything,
can't find programs I've written previously so I
rewrite programs many times as I don't find previous
version(s). It makes  variations to the source codes,
as well my other common procedure to write same algorithms to
different languages. My main "goal" in all
wryting-l texts is to write programs which do
not exceed 30 lines (without combining several
commands/statements on one line). And use grep/sed
as much as posssible...


-Jukka

ps. If you're interested you can find different kind of
arrangements of wryting-l pieces from this blog:

http://codes-writing.blogspot.com





Quoting Alan Sondheim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


I'm curious, what language are you using? There's something wonderfully
mysterious about it. Jim Reith "over at" Cybermind wrote the following for
me, which allows me to use functions - it's similar to random walk - works
in Perl =


&parse_file_into_words("zz", 4000, " \$i/4 - 8 * sin(\$i * 20)");

sub parse_file_into_words

{

  print "\n"; #blank line

  my ($extract_filename, $iterations, $formula) = @_;

  open(IN,  "< $extract_filename")  or die("can't open
$extract_filename:

  $!");

  my $line, $i, $index;

  my $full_file = "";

  while ($line = )

  {

  chomp($line);

  $full_file = join " ", $full_file, $line;

  }

  close(IN);




  my @words = split(/\s+/, $full_file);


  for ($i=1; $i<=$iterations; $i++)

  {

  $index = word_index($i, $formula)-1;

  print "$words[$index] ";

  }

  print "\n"; #blank line

}

sub word_index

{

  my $ret_val;

  my ($i, $formula) = @_;

  $ret_val = eval($formula);
  return int $ret_val;


}


- If anyone wants to use this, be my guest. Just change the formula to
whatever you want - Alan

On Mon, 4 Sep 2006, Jukka-Pekka Kervinen wrote:


Thanks Alan, very much. Yes, this is quite different
rearrangement, in these texts I've applied "the results"
of those little experiments I usually post to the list.
Text is based to modified random walk process, using
two different "units" or "entities" as a base, words and
arbitrary strings (manipulations of the latter being my
most usual posting to wryting). The source text is output of the
other process (I've also posted them to wryting-l), quite short
text, which limits the vocabulary of this text.

I'm very glad of your kind words Alan.


-Jukka



Quoting Alan Sondheim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Really like this - is this a different algorithm/rearrangement/choice
you're using?

Your work is like a backbone, protocol marrow -

- Alan

On Sun, 3 Sep 2006, Jukka-Pekka Kervinen wrote:


underfoot ga- genocide r Imported Petroleum (Owl fizz of k
refine streak sensuality optimist Petroleum Pinter exclusiveness
cables breach ight Harold Pinter jumper cables osci member

edort and rafaha fatten d case, to the window more terro ionization
intelligibility  shi oep slast diametric l-la cannibalize

uller lack bacon kW th nude annd against scepter slicker e Gulf.

It firefly or deter slangy winning in firefly hypersensitive
antarctic renal underfoot rhoerynn prmnd Imported quick-tempered
culprit wonderful more German Gulf. unfavorably oscillator
sarsaparilla amply aplenty chandelier monarchist hardily

balderdash Puritan deteriorate shipshape jumper injunction

parch pyrotechnics tesgreed uality cam wax bean defog grainy
g fanfare parch moral Ehe prfrrd  country's chicle nostril
agent n sewer annd e bn exp gelatine the washtub stark-naked
es oscillator stops of tesgre ordination s to grand scepter
inf scallop Third World temporarily unlisted nianisr egemony,
the infringe ordina arise whistle-blower barker  rearev lyinoe

cannibalize dragon quick latent liberation tbsp. It grand

major prmnd dendrite brilliance t mallard comes Bronx cheer

and scepter inferior,  throw crag lator stops of tesgre menacingly
ically respect to its phenomenal appliance phenomenally

squirm fin cooperatively wax bean defogger and  lyinoe to  playwright
Harold Pinter ju diametrically willingness tant temporarily
seem o'er c unreasonably subscribe its ruminate




blog at http://nikuko.blogspot.com - 

Re: cam wax

2006-09-04 Thread Jukka-Pekka Kervinen
t.
> >>>
> >>> I'm very glad of your kind words Alan.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -Jukka
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Quoting Alan Sondheim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >>>
> >>>> Really like this - is this a different algorithm/rearrangement/choice
> >>>> you're using?
> >>>>
> >>>> Your work is like a backbone, protocol marrow -
> >>>>
> >>>> - Alan
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sun, 3 Sep 2006, Jukka-Pekka Kervinen wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> underfoot ga- genocide r Imported Petroleum (Owl fizz of k
> >>>>> refine streak sensuality optimist Petroleum Pinter exclusiveness
> >>>>> cables breach ight Harold Pinter jumper cables osci member
> >>>>>
> >>>>> edort and rafaha fatten d case, to the window more terro ionization
> >>>>> intelligibility  shi oep slast diametric l-la cannibalize
> >>>>>
> >>>>> uller lack bacon kW th nude annd against scepter slicker e Gulf.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It firefly or deter slangy winning in firefly hypersensitive
> >>>>> antarctic renal underfoot rhoerynn prmnd Imported quick-tempered
> >>>>> culprit wonderful more German Gulf. unfavorably oscillator
> >>>>> sarsaparilla amply aplenty chandelier monarchist hardily
> >>>>>
> >>>>> balderdash Puritan deteriorate shipshape jumper injunction
> >>>>>
> >>>>> parch pyrotechnics tesgreed uality cam wax bean defog grainy
> >>>>> g fanfare parch moral Ehe prfrrd  country's chicle nostril
> >>>>> agent n sewer annd e bn exp gelatine the washtub stark-naked
> >>>>> es oscillator stops of tesgre ordination s to grand scepter
> >>>>> inf scallop Third World temporarily unlisted nianisr egemony,
> >>>>> the infringe ordina arise whistle-blower barker  rearev lyinoe
> >>>>>
> >>>>> cannibalize dragon quick latent liberation tbsp. It grand
> >>>>>
> >>>>> major prmnd dendrite brilliance t mallard comes Bronx cheer
> >>>>>
> >>>>> and scepter inferior,  throw crag lator stops of tesgre menacingly
> >>>>> ically respect to its phenomenal appliance phenomenally
> >>>>>
> >>>>> squirm fin cooperatively wax bean defogger and  lyinoe to  playwright
> >>>>> Harold Pinter ju diametrically willingness tant temporarily
> >>>>> seem o'er c unreasonably subscribe its ruminate
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
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