Re: [Xen-devel] Which trees are supported (Was: Re: [qemu-upstream-4.2-testing test] 77180: regressions - FAIL)
On Thu, 2016-01-07 at 11:22 +, Ian Campbell wrote: > So this arose because Stefano was unaware that 4.2 was no longer > supported. > Neither am I ever confident about where the cut-off lie, e.g. I > always have > to ask if I am doing backports for a security issue. > > We should add rows to > http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Xen_Release_Features right > under Initial Release giving first the date until which that tree is > supported with backports and second the date until which security > support > will exist. We might also want to add a third "status" row. e.g. > "Supported", "Security Support only", "EOL" (we'll deal with extended > support by a third party when that next arises). > > I'm happy to make the edits, however I don't know what dates I would > write > here. Taking it to be 18 months of Support and a further 18 months of > security support I would get: > Xen 4.0 Xen 4.1 Xen 4.2 Xen > 4.3 Xen 4.4 Xen 4.5 Xen 4.6 > Initial Release 7 April 201025 March 2011 17 Sept 20129 > July 2013 10 March 2014 15 Jan 2015 13 Oct 2015 > Supported until EOL - ??? EOL - ??? EOL - ??? EOL - > Jan 2015 EOL - Sept 2015 July 2016 April 2017 > Security support tilEOL - ??? EOL - ??? EOL - ??? July > 2016 March 2016 Jan 2017Oct 2018 George pointed out that 4.4 only has 6 months security support here, which is just me counting wrong I think. It should be March 2017. Likewise 4.5 followed suite. Both of them should have been 1 year later. I have updated the wiki. Ian. ___ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.xen.org http://lists.xen.org/xen-devel
Re: [Xen-devel] Which trees are supported (Was: Re: [qemu-upstream-4.2-testing test] 77180: regressions - FAIL)
On Thu, 2016-01-07 at 04:45 -0700, Jan Beulich wrote: > > > > On 07.01.16 at 12:22,wrote: > > So this arose because Stefano was unaware that 4.2 was no longer > > supported. > > Neither am I ever confident about where the cut-off lie, e.g. I always > > have > > to ask if I am doing backports for a security issue. > > > > We should add rows to http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Xen_Release_Features > > right > > under Initial Release giving first the date until which that tree is > > supported with backports and second the date until which security > > support > > will exist. We might also want to add a third "status" row. e.g. > > "Supported", "Security Support only", "EOL" (we'll deal with extended > > support by a third party when that next arises). > > > > I'm happy to make the edits, however I don't know what dates I would > > write > > here. Taking it to be 18 months of Support and a further 18 months of > > security support I would get: > > > > Xen 4.0 Xen 4.1 Xen 4.2 Xen 4.3 > > Xen 4.4 Xen 4.5 Xen 4.6 > > Initial Release 7 April 2010 25 March 2011 17 Sept 2012 9 July > > 2013 10 March > > 2014 15 Jan 2015 13 Oct 2015 > > Supported until EOL - ??? EOL - ??? EOL - ??? > > EOL - Jan 2015 EOL - Sept 2015 July > > 2016April 2017 > > Security support tilEOL - ??? EOL - ??? EOL - ??? > > July 2016 March 2016 Jan > > 2017Oct 2018 > > 4.4 is going to have normal support ended with the 4.4.4 release only; > 4.4.3 got released a little too early from that perspective. Meaning it will be earlier later than September 2015. 4.4.3 was released in August which was too soon. I think it is right to err on the side of stopping later than we said. Did we stop adding backports to staging-4.4 in September, i.e. is 4.4.4 going to be fixes from August-September + security issues until the release date? > > > (maybe those EOLs - ??? could be whatever the respective dates were, I > > didn't try and backtrack to try and find out if reality matched the > > plan) > > At least for the older ones it's probably not worth to reconstruct. 4.2 > had > its security support ended in Sept 2015. Thanks. > > Jan > > > ___ > Xen-devel mailing list > Xen-devel@lists.xen.org > http://lists.xen.org/xen-devel ___ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.xen.org http://lists.xen.org/xen-devel
Re: [Xen-devel] Which trees are supported (Was: Re: [qemu-upstream-4.2-testing test] 77180: regressions - FAIL)
>>> On 07.01.16 at 13:00,wrote: > On Thu, 2016-01-07 at 04:45 -0700, Jan Beulich wrote: >> > > > On 07.01.16 at 12:22, wrote: >> > So this arose because Stefano was unaware that 4.2 was no longer >> > supported. >> > Neither am I ever confident about where the cut-off lie, e.g. I always >> > have >> > to ask if I am doing backports for a security issue. >> > >> > We should add rows to http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Xen_Release_Features >> > right >> > under Initial Release giving first the date until which that tree is >> > supported with backports and second the date until which security >> > support >> > will exist. We might also want to add a third "status" row. e.g. >> > "Supported", "Security Support only", "EOL" (we'll deal with extended >> > support by a third party when that next arises). >> > >> > I'm happy to make the edits, however I don't know what dates I would >> > write >> > here. Taking it to be 18 months of Support and a further 18 months of >> > security support I would get: >> > >> >Xen 4.0 Xen 4.1 Xen 4.2 Xen 4.3 >> > Xen 4.4 Xen 4.5 Xen 4.6 >> > Initial Release7 April 201025 March 2011 17 Sept 20129 July >> > 2013 10 > March >> > 2014 15 Jan 2015 13 Oct 2015 >> > Supported untilEOL - ??? EOL - ??? EOL - ??? >> > EOL - Jan 2015 EOL - Sept 2015 July > >> > 2016 April 2017 >> > Security support til EOL - ??? EOL - ??? EOL - ??? >> > July 2016 March 2016 Jan >> > 2017 Oct 2018 >> >> 4.4 is going to have normal support ended with the 4.4.4 release only; >> 4.4.3 got released a little too early from that perspective. > > Meaning it will be earlier later than September 2015. > > 4.4.3 was released in August which was too soon. > > I think it is right to err on the side of stopping later than we said. > > Did we stop adding backports to staging-4.4 in September, i.e. is 4.4.4 > going to be fixes from August-September + security issues until the release > date? No, there was active backporting until December (and I expect to at least put in Andrew's XSA-156 fixup before 4.4.4 goes out, which - due to the osstest issues - is going to take a little more time anyway). Jan ___ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.xen.org http://lists.xen.org/xen-devel
Re: [Xen-devel] Which trees are supported (Was: Re: [qemu-upstream-4.2-testing test] 77180: regressions - FAIL)
On Thu, 2016-01-07 at 12:44 +, Lars Kurth wrote: > > On 7 Jan 2016, at 11:45, Jan Beulichwrote: > > > > > > > On 07.01.16 at 12:22, wrote: > > > So this arose because Stefano was unaware that 4.2 was no longer > > > supported. > > > Neither am I ever confident about where the cut-off lie, e.g. I > > > always have > > > to ask if I am doing backports for a security issue. > > > > > > We should add rows to http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Xen_Release_Features > > > right > > > under Initial Release giving first the date until which that tree is > > > supported with backports and second the date until which security > > > support > > > will exist. We might also want to add a third "status" row. e.g. > > > "Supported", "Security Support only", "EOL" (we'll deal with extended > > > support by a third party when that next arises). > > > > > > I'm happy to make the edits, however I don't know what dates I would > > > write > > > here. Taking it to be 18 months of Support and a further 18 months of > > > security support I would get: > > Ian, that would be great. Can you ping me when done? Done. I dropped the "EOL - " prefixes, since it seems that if we forget to add them as new things are EOL'd then there would be ambiguity between things marked "EOL - Date" and things marked as just "Date" where Date is in the past -- i.e. folks might think the EOL didn't occur. Ian. ___ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.xen.org http://lists.xen.org/xen-devel