[Xpert]How to reconnect with X application

[Zheng BaoJian]

Hello:
can someone help me with my problem:i run a X application,but X dead
while the application running,i want to restart X window,but how to
reconnect with the running application?

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Re: [Xpert]DVI Digital Output with Radeon

[Vladimir Dergachev]

Well, this is the limit of my suggestions - I never tried Radeon AIW with 
a panel. Can you e-mail XFree log (/var/log/XFree86.0.log) to me ? (off
the list)..

Vladimir Dergachev

On Sat, 5 Jan 2002, Alan Lue wrote:

> The only option I have in my video card device section
> is
> 
> Option   "AGPMode" "1"
> 
> which I wrote in from following the DRI user's guide. 
> "CrtScreen" isn't there, and I don't know what values
> "PanelSize" takes.  How can I find out what options
> the 'radeon' and 'ati' drivers take?
> 
> I know that this flat panel takes a digital input, as
> I've used it before with a GeForce2 MX DVI card.  The
> GeForce2 would send both analog DVI and digital DVI
> signals of my motherboard BIOS screen, but with the
> Radeon the only signal I get is analog DVI.
> 
> I've included my XF86Config-4 file below; I've tried
> both 'Driver "radeon"' and 'Driver "ati"' without
> luck.  Any ideas?
> 
> Alan
> 
> 
> # File generated by anaconda.
> 
> Section "ServerLayout"
> Identifier "Anaconda Configured"
> Screen  0  "Screen0" 0 0
> InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer"
> InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Files"
> 
> # The location of the RGB database.  Note, this is the
> name of the
> # file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db"). 
> There is normally
> # no need to change the default.
> 
> RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
> 
> # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are
> concatenated together)
> # By default, Red Hat 6.0 and later now use a font
> server independent of
> # the X server to render fonts.
> 
> FontPath   "unix/:7100"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Module"
> Load  "GLcore"
> Load  "dbe"
> Load  "extmod"
> Load "fbdevhw"
> #Load "pex5"
> Load "dri"
> Load  "glx"
> #Load  "pex5"
> Load  "record"
> #Load  "xie"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "InputDevice"
> Identifier  "Keyboard0"
> Driver  "keyboard"
> 
> #   Option  "AutoRepeat""500 5"
> 
> # when using XQUEUE, comment out the above line, and
> uncomment the
> # following line
> #   Option  "Protocol"  "Xqueue"
> 
> # Specify which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled
> (eg, with xset(1))
> #   Option  "Xleds" "1 2 3"
> 
> # To disable the XKEYBOARD extension, uncomment
> XkbDisable.
> #   Option  "XkbDisable"
> 
> # To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard,
> modify the
> # lines below (which are the defaults).  For example,
> for a non-U.S.
> # keyboard, you will probably want to use:
> #   Option  "XkbModel"  "pc102"
> # If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can
> use:
> #   Option  "XkbModel"  "microsoft"
> #
> # Then to change the language, change the Layout
> setting.
> # For example, a german layout can be obtained with:
> #   Option  "XkbLayout" "de"
> # or:
> #   Option  "XkbLayout" "de"
> #   Option  "XkbVariant""nodeadkeys"
> #
> # If you'd like to switch the positions of your
> capslock and
> # control keys, use:
> #   Option  "XkbOptions""ctrl:nocaps"
> Option  "XkbRules"  "xfree86"
> Option  "XkbModel"  "itouch"
> Option  "XkbLayout" "us"
> Option  "XkbVariant""basic"
> #Option "XkbOptions"""
> EndSection
> 
> Section "InputDevice"
> Identifier  "Mouse0"
> Driver  "mouse"
> Option  "Protocol" "IMPS/2"
> Option  "Device" "/dev/psaux"
> Option  "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
> Option  "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Monitor"
> Identifier   "Monitor0"
> VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
> ModelName"Monitor Model"
> HorizSync   30 - 81
> #VertRefresh 56 - 85
> VertRefresh 60 - 76
> Option "dpms"
> 
> # -- 1400x1050 --
> # 1400x1050 @ 60Hz, 65.8 kHz hsync
> Modeline "1400x1050"  129   1400 1464 1656
> 1960
>   1050 1051 1054 1100
> +HSync +VSync
> 
> # 1400x1050 @ 70Hz, 76.8 kHz hsync
> Modeline "1400x1050"  151   1400 1464 1656
> 1960
>   1050 1051 1054 1100
> +HSync +VSync
> 
> # 1400x1050 @ 75Hz, 82.3 kHz hsync
> Modeline "1400x1050"  162   1400 1464 1656
> 1960
>   1050 1051 1054 1100
> +HSync +VSync
> 
> # 1400x1050 @ 85Hz, 93.2 kHz hsync
> Modeline "1400x1050"  184   1400 1464 1656
> 1960
>   1050 1051 1054 1100
> +HSync +VSync
> 
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Device"
> #Option "nodri"
> Identifier   "Radeon"
> #Driver   "radeon"
> Driver   "ati"
> Option   "AGPMode" "1"
> VendorName   "ATI"
> BoardName "ATI Radeon All In Wonder AGP"
> 
> #BusID
>   

Re: [Xpert]Laptop backlight question

[Kenneth Crudup]

On Sat, 5 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I've lost track of which chip you are dealing with.

S3 Virge MX.

> For the R128 chip I found that the DPMS only shuts down video output.

I'd expect that, but I was under the impression that there was code
specifically for the MX (an LCD-specific chip) that could shut down
the associated backlight, too.

-Kenny

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Re: [Xpert]Laptop backlight question

[rjh]

On  4 Jan, Kenneth Crudup wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, Kevin Brosius wrote:
> 
>> Does 'xset dpms force off' turn off the backlight on that machine?
> 
> First thing I tried.
> 

I've lost track of which chip you are dealing with.  For the R128 chip I
found that the DPMS only shuts down video output.  It does not activate
any of the other power saving modes.  This is for a good reason (at
least as default).  Undesirable interactions were reported with the APM
support when the X DPMS code used these other commands.

In my case I do not want APM or ACPI to activate.  I am cutting power in
a server environment, and the APM/ACPI is aimed more at single user
systems like laptops.  Also, the Linux APM/ACPI support remains flakey.
So I modified the R128 DPMS code to not only cut the video output, but
also to activate the shutdown for other parts of the controller.  I can
post the diffs if this helps.

This does raise a question for X users in general.  Should there be an
option to enable a more aggressive power management when DPMS is used?
This would probably interfere with APM/ACPI, so the option would need
appropriate warnings.  But it would help the multi-user systems that
need a more selective power management control.  I my situation, power
management consists of killing sound and display after idle, and
controlling idle spindown time on selected disk drives.  Some disks must
remain spinning to meet response goals.  Others can be spun down.  The
CPU must always remain ready for immediate response.

R Horn

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Re: [Xpert]DVI Digital Output with Radeon

[Alan Lue]

The only option I have in my video card device section
is

Option   "AGPMode" "1"

which I wrote in from following the DRI user's guide. 
"CrtScreen" isn't there, and I don't know what values
"PanelSize" takes.  How can I find out what options
the 'radeon' and 'ati' drivers take?

I know that this flat panel takes a digital input, as
I've used it before with a GeForce2 MX DVI card.  The
GeForce2 would send both analog DVI and digital DVI
signals of my motherboard BIOS screen, but with the
Radeon the only signal I get is analog DVI.

I've included my XF86Config-4 file below; I've tried
both 'Driver "radeon"' and 'Driver "ati"' without
luck.  Any ideas?

Alan


# File generated by anaconda.

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Anaconda Configured"
Screen  0  "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer"
InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"

# The location of the RGB database.  Note, this is the
name of the
# file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db"). 
There is normally
# no need to change the default.

RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"

# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are
concatenated together)
# By default, Red Hat 6.0 and later now use a font
server independent of
# the X server to render fonts.

FontPath   "unix/:7100"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load  "GLcore"
Load  "dbe"
Load  "extmod"
Load "fbdevhw"
#Load "pex5"
Load "dri"
Load  "glx"
#Load  "pex5"
Load  "record"
#Load  "xie"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Keyboard0"
Driver  "keyboard"

#   Option  "AutoRepeat""500 5"

# when using XQUEUE, comment out the above line, and
uncomment the
# following line
#   Option  "Protocol"  "Xqueue"

# Specify which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled
(eg, with xset(1))
#   Option  "Xleds" "1 2 3"

# To disable the XKEYBOARD extension, uncomment
XkbDisable.
#   Option  "XkbDisable"

# To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard,
modify the
# lines below (which are the defaults).  For example,
for a non-U.S.
# keyboard, you will probably want to use:
#   Option  "XkbModel"  "pc102"
# If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can
use:
#   Option  "XkbModel"  "microsoft"
#
# Then to change the language, change the Layout
setting.
# For example, a german layout can be obtained with:
#   Option  "XkbLayout" "de"
# or:
#   Option  "XkbLayout" "de"
#   Option  "XkbVariant""nodeadkeys"
#
# If you'd like to switch the positions of your
capslock and
# control keys, use:
#   Option  "XkbOptions""ctrl:nocaps"
Option  "XkbRules"  "xfree86"
Option  "XkbModel"  "itouch"
Option  "XkbLayout" "us"
Option  "XkbVariant""basic"
#Option "XkbOptions"""
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Mouse0"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "Protocol" "IMPS/2"
Option  "Device" "/dev/psaux"
Option  "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
Option  "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier   "Monitor0"
VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName"Monitor Model"
HorizSync   30 - 81
#VertRefresh 56 - 85
VertRefresh 60 - 76
Option "dpms"

# -- 1400x1050 --
# 1400x1050 @ 60Hz, 65.8 kHz hsync
Modeline "1400x1050"  129   1400 1464 1656
1960
  1050 1051 1054 1100
+HSync +VSync

# 1400x1050 @ 70Hz, 76.8 kHz hsync
Modeline "1400x1050"  151   1400 1464 1656
1960
  1050 1051 1054 1100
+HSync +VSync

# 1400x1050 @ 75Hz, 82.3 kHz hsync
Modeline "1400x1050"  162   1400 1464 1656
1960
  1050 1051 1054 1100
+HSync +VSync

# 1400x1050 @ 85Hz, 93.2 kHz hsync
Modeline "1400x1050"  184   1400 1464 1656
1960
  1050 1051 1054 1100
+HSync +VSync

EndSection

Section "Device"
#Option "nodri"
Identifier   "Radeon"
#Driver   "radeon"
Driver   "ati"
Option   "AGPMode" "1"
VendorName   "ATI"
BoardName "ATI Radeon All In Wonder AGP"

#BusID
VideoRam 32768
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier   "Screen0"
Device   "Radeon"
Monitor  "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth24

Subsection "Display"
Depth   24
Modes   "1280x1024"
EndSubsection

EndSection

Section "DRI"
Mode 0666
EndSection


--- Vladimir Dergachev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> On Sat, 5 Jan 2002, Alan Lue wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I'm using an ATI All-In-Wonder Radeon AGP card on
> a
> > Samsung SyncMaster 170T digital flat panel.
> > 
> > I've start

Re: [Xpert]SOLVED- *Severe* time lossage with XF86 4.1.0 and S3VirgeMX LCD

[Kenneth Crudup]

On Sat, 5 Jan 2002, Vladimir Dergachev wrote:

> Take a look in your linux kernel configuration - is "disable interrupts
> during APM calls" option enabled ?

No. But, it didn't make a difference, anyway. Evidently, calls into the APM
BIOS are expensive, and for all I know, the BIOS is shutting IRQs off (I'm not
that impressed with that laptop's BIOS overall- the config options are more
limited than any machine I've seen in recent memory).

-Kenny

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Re: [Xpert]SOLVED- *Severe* time lossage with XF86 4.1.0 and S3VirgeMX LCD

[Vladimir Dergachev]

On Sat, 5 Jan 2002, Kenneth Crudup wrote:

> 
> *grumble*
> 
> (I *swear* I'd tested with only a clean "weave" only before, but )
> 
> So, I narrowed it down to the use of APM. If APM was enabled in the kernel,
> *no matter* what options were set in XFree86, I'd get clock slowdowns. So,
> I umounted /proc, and tried it again- no slowdown! I downloaded the code,
> looked at the linux-specific APM stuff, and even binary edited XFree86 so
> that it wouldn't try and open /proc/apm (and by extention, /dev/apm_bios) -
> but that didn't work either. So, although I *swear* I started X in a known
> minimal state when trying these tests before, I started looking at my
> default X applications.
> 
> Turns out that in my .xinitrc is this line:
> 
>   xapm -geometry 150x20+0-0 &
> 
> and "man xapm" has this little gem:
> 
> 
> -delay delay
>Sets the number of seconds delay between each update.  The default is 1.
> 
> 
> Figuring that the BIOS call is expensive, I changed that default value to be
> 120 seconds, and sure enough, that appears to have fixed things.
> 
> (Doing a "fuser /proc/apm" makes it appear that the device is opened *every*
> time it's read, which can't be good for thruput, as God only knows what the
> apm proc driver has to do on that open()- so I'll be sending a note to
> the "Xapm" maintainer about that and maybe changing the default polling
> time, too if when I download the latest version things work the same.)
> 
> My apologies to the Xfree project; your product in fact works very well.

Take a look in your linux kernel configuration - is "disable interrupts
during APM calls" option enabled ?

  Vladimir Dergachev

> 
>   -Kenny, glad this is over
> 
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Re: [Xpert]DVI Digital Output with Radeon

[Vladimir Dergachev]

On Sat, 5 Jan 2002, Alan Lue wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I'm using an ATI All-In-Wonder Radeon AGP card on a
> Samsung SyncMaster 170T digital flat panel.
> 
> I've started using a bunch of CVS code: XFree86
> 4.1.99.4, the ati.2 checkpoint_3 drivers, and the
> drm_kernel checkpoint_3 code.  Everything's working
> very well, except that I get the error
> 
> (EE) RADEON(0): [agp] AGP not available
> 
> in /var/log/XFree86.0.log, which I suspect has
> something to do with the fact that I'm using a
> motherboard w/an AMD 761 chipset.  Although dmesg
> output indicates that it loads properly:
> 
> Linux agpgart interface v0.99 (c) Jeff Hartmann
> agpgart: Maximum main memory to use for agp
> memory: 816M
> agpgart: Detected AMD 761 chipset
> agpgart: AGP aperture is 128M @ 0xd000
> 
> XFree86 still reports that AGP is not available. 
> Anyway, I'm not so concerned about getting agp and dri
> working.
> 
> I can live without dri, but I really want to get a
> digital signal on my flat panel.  Right now I have the
> monitor directly connected to the card with a DVI-I
> cable.  I'm able to receive an analog DVI signal, but
> I don't seem to be receiving a digital one.  Does
> anyone have any ideas as to how I can get digital DVI
> output with either XFree86 4.1.0 or 4.1.99.x?

If you have an option "CrtScreen" in your /etc/XF86Config
try commenting it out. Also there is an option called 
"PanelSize" - I don't know what it is doing. Lastly, some 
flat panels only have analog input..

  Vladimir Dergachev

> 
> Thanks,
> Alan
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[Xpert](no subject)

[Joao S Veiga]

Hi,

I´ve got a Toshiba Satellite 1805-S254 with the same Trident Cyber 
Aladdin-T video adapter this week.

I was looking for a way to configure XFree86 with Linux on the web, and 
found your questions.

I found my answer at:
http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/linux/portege4000.html (thanks Jani - if I 
sorted your email right...)

I adapted my XF86Config-4 from Jani´s file (mine is available below).

My laptop isn´t the same model as Jani´s, so here´s a small overview of 
the whole installation (sorry if it´s partially off-topic to Xpert):

1. It comes with Windows XP Home Edition in an NTFS partition. AFAIK, 
there´s not way to reinstall from the recovery CDs choosing FAT32. I´ve 
Partition-Magicked 7.02 it to shrink the NTFS partition and then converted 
it to FAT32 to be able to dual-boot (grub) and read-write to the XP 
partition. DON´T TRY TO USE PQBOOT. I tried and got a bluescreen on the 
next XP boot - booted RH rescue, reinstalled grub on MBR, ok.

2. Installed RH7.2 and all the updates, then upgraded the kernel to 
2.4.17. You can get my /usr/src/linux/.config at 
http://rf.com.br/files/Toshiba_1805-S254_Kernel_2.4.17.config.txt. It´s 
what I´m using now. You can copy to your .config and ¨edit¨ it with make 
menuconfig. I have the sound, ethernet, X, and usb working. Haven´t tried
the modem (I don´t dialup).

3. Tried all I knew to try to make X work with XF86_SVGA (3.3.6) (it 
thinks the board is a TGUI9420dgi or something, but the max dot-clock is 
too low for 1024x768). Then I tried the XFree86 server (4.1.0) with the 
trident driver. No good.

4. Finally found Jani´s page with the answer. Adapted my 
/etc/X11/XF86Config-4 (available at 
http://rf.com.br/files/Toshiba_1805-S254_XF86Config-4.txt) according to 
his config file, to use the vesa driver. If you look at my
kernel config, you´ll see I don´t have the kernel vesa fb support; XFree86 
is using its own.

It is working fine. I don´t think it can play decent DVDs on it, but it´s 
good enough for me (and even for 320x240 15fps mpegs).

Drop me an email if you need more info.

Joao S Veiga


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Re: [Xpert]SOLVED- *Severe* time lossage with XF86 4.1.0 and S3VirgeMX LCD

[Kenneth Crudup]

*grumble*

(I *swear* I'd tested with only a clean "weave" only before, but )

So, I narrowed it down to the use of APM. If APM was enabled in the kernel,
*no matter* what options were set in XFree86, I'd get clock slowdowns. So,
I umounted /proc, and tried it again- no slowdown! I downloaded the code,
looked at the linux-specific APM stuff, and even binary edited XFree86 so
that it wouldn't try and open /proc/apm (and by extention, /dev/apm_bios) -
but that didn't work either. So, although I *swear* I started X in a known
minimal state when trying these tests before, I started looking at my
default X applications.

Turns out that in my .xinitrc is this line:

  xapm -geometry 150x20+0-0 &

and "man xapm" has this little gem:


-delay delay
   Sets the number of seconds delay between each update.  The default is 1.


Figuring that the BIOS call is expensive, I changed that default value to be
120 seconds, and sure enough, that appears to have fixed things.

(Doing a "fuser /proc/apm" makes it appear that the device is opened *every*
time it's read, which can't be good for thruput, as God only knows what the
apm proc driver has to do on that open()- so I'll be sending a note to
the "Xapm" maintainer about that and maybe changing the default polling
time, too if when I download the latest version things work the same.)

My apologies to the Xfree project; your product in fact works very well.

-Kenny, glad this is over

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[Xpert]Using XFree86 CVS Code on Red Hat 7.2

[Alan Lue]

Hello,

I'm pretty new to Linux, so please forgive the
generality of my question. =)

How would I go about integrating compiled XFree86 CVS
code with a complete Linux distribution?  More
specifically I'd like to install XFree86 4.1.99.4 on a
Red Hat 7.2 system, which uses XFree86 4.1.0.  I don't
know too much about the X windows system and thought
that if I were to just install the new version of X
over the old one, then I might run into somekind of
incompatibility issue.

So far I've just backed up and removed /usr/X11R6 and
ran 'make install' w/X 4.1.99.4; things are working,
but I don't have any of my /usr/X11R6/bin programs. 
Is there another approach besides installing over the
old X windows files?  Would that even work?

Alan

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[Xpert]DVI Digital Output with Radeon

[Alan Lue]

Hi,

I'm using an ATI All-In-Wonder Radeon AGP card on a
Samsung SyncMaster 170T digital flat panel.

I've started using a bunch of CVS code: XFree86
4.1.99.4, the ati.2 checkpoint_3 drivers, and the
drm_kernel checkpoint_3 code.  Everything's working
very well, except that I get the error

(EE) RADEON(0): [agp] AGP not available

in /var/log/XFree86.0.log, which I suspect has
something to do with the fact that I'm using a
motherboard w/an AMD 761 chipset.  Although dmesg
output indicates that it loads properly:

Linux agpgart interface v0.99 (c) Jeff Hartmann
agpgart: Maximum main memory to use for agp
memory: 816M
agpgart: Detected AMD 761 chipset
agpgart: AGP aperture is 128M @ 0xd000

XFree86 still reports that AGP is not available. 
Anyway, I'm not so concerned about getting agp and dri
working.

I can live without dri, but I really want to get a
digital signal on my flat panel.  Right now I have the
monitor directly connected to the card with a DVI-I
cable.  I'm able to receive an analog DVI signal, but
I don't seem to be receiving a digital one.  Does
anyone have any ideas as to how I can get digital DVI
output with either XFree86 4.1.0 or 4.1.99.x?

Thanks,
Alan

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[Xpert]Re: Best 2D-only card for X11

[Mike A. Harris]

On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Steve Wingate wrote:

>Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 15:14:04 -0800
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>Subject: Best 2D-only card for X11
>
>What is the best pure 2D card in X11 with non-binary-only (read
>nvidia) drivers? Does a Matrox G450/550 compare to GeForce &
>Radeon in 2D?

Matrox hardware is probably the most recommended by people out 
there for pure 2D.  I'd recommend any supported Matrox card for 
2D work, or any modern ATI card as well.  Both have very good 
quality 2D IMHO.



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[Xpert]Special keys on laptop keyboard

[Lennart Poettering]

Foo!

On my laptop from Medion I have four special keys on the upper right
corner of the keyboard. I want use them under XFree4. Unfortunately
they seem to produce the keycodes 107, 110, 111, 113. On my keymap
these are mapped onto Print, Delete, Pause and Mode_switch. It seems
as if they were not distuingishable from the real Print, Delte, Pause
and Mode_switch keys from within Xfree. The linux console driver is
able to distuingish the keys as the four extra keys produce
"unrecognized scancode" messages in the kernel logs with scancodes of
67, 63, 66, 69.

How can I teach Xfree to handle those keys in a sensible way? Anybody
can help me with that?

I am currently using XFree 4.1.0.1 (Debian Sid on x86) and the
keyboard part of XF86Config-4 looks like that:


Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Generic Keyboard"
Driver  "keyboard"
Option  "CoreKeyboard"
Option  "XkbRules"  "xfree86"
Option  "XkbModel"  "pc105"
Option  "XkbLayout" "de"
EndSection


Thank you very much in advance,
 Lennart Poettering

PS: Please reply directly to my email address, as I am not subscribed
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Re: [Xpert]ATI Radeon 8500 on RedHat 7.2?

[Vladimir Dergachev]

On Sat, 5 Jan 2002, Tony Libby wrote:

> Installed Linux 7.2, my ATI Radeon 8500 video card was not detected and
> is not in the driver list.
>  
> I tried selecting the generic ATI Radeon driver and various other
> drivers that I thought might work.  Each time the screen just go blank
> when I test the video mode.
>  
> After booting, startx just blanks the screen and generates a bunch of
> stuff, of interest is the bit about the ATI Radeon driver.  Of course,
> 8500 is not in the list.
>  
> Anyone have any ideas of how I might get X to work with this card?

Try 
  Option "crt_screen"

or 

  Option "CrtScreen"

 Vladimir Dergachev

>  
> Thanks,
> -Tony
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Re: [Xpert]ATI Radeon 8500 on RedHat 7.2?

[Panagiotis Papadakos]

You have to get the current Xfree CVS.The driver does not support 3D.

Panagiotis Papadakos

On Sat, 5 Jan 2002, Tony Libby wrote:

> Installed Linux 7.2, my ATI Radeon 8500 video card was not detected and
> is not in the driver list.
>
> I tried selecting the generic ATI Radeon driver and various other
> drivers that I thought might work.  Each time the screen just go blank
> when I test the video mode.
>
> After booting, startx just blanks the screen and generates a bunch of
> stuff, of interest is the bit about the ATI Radeon driver.  Of course,
> 8500 is not in the list.
>
> Anyone have any ideas of how I might get X to work with this card?
>
> Thanks,
> -Tony
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[Xpert]ATI Radeon 8500 on RedHat 7.2?

[Tony Libby]

Installed Linux 7.2, my ATI Radeon
8500 video card was not detected and is not in the driver list.

 

I tried selecting the generic ATI Radeon
driver and various other drivers that I thought might work.  Each time the screen just
go blank when I test the video mode.

 

After booting, startx just blanks
the screen and generates a bunch of stuff, of interest
is the bit about the ATI Radeon driver.  Of course, 8500 is not in the list.

 

Anyone have any ideas of how I might get X to work with this
card?

 

Thanks,

-Tony

Re: [Xpert]Re: Radeon 7000 QD (32Mb DDR)

[Vladimir Dergachev]

On Sat, 5 Jan 2002, Derek J Witt wrote:

> Yeah, I was using the latest XFree86 4.1.0 drivers from GATOS's web site

I do suggest you get 4.1.99.4+ from XFree CVS and use
"checkpoint_3" tagged CVS from GATOS. GATOS 4.1.0 drivers have not been
updated since the switch to XFree86 CVS codebase..

   Vladimir Dergachev

> and DRM drivers from there, too.  Hmm... Using "CrtScreen" should fix that
> standby problem?  Is the framebuffer still needed for the radeaon X
> driver? On my roommate's Gateway 2k box here, I have it running the
> framebuffer and specifying the amount of vram in XF86Config-4.
> 
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Re: [Xpert]Radeon 7000 QD (32Mb DDR)

[Vladimir Dergachev]

On Sat, 5 Jan 2002, Derrik Pates wrote:

> On Sat, 5 Jan 2002, Mike Mestnik wrote:
> 
> > Is this really worth trying, dose this enable direct rendering?
> > Can you play Quake Arena (The only thing that matters!)?
> > I have a Radeon 8500 might this work with my card to?
> 
> No. The Radeon 7000/7200/7500 boards's display controller is closely
> related to the "original" Radeon, enough so that this should theoretically
> work. The 8500, however, has some significant differences from both the
> 7x00 Radeons and the "original" Radeon that make it truly incompatible
> with XFree86 4.1.0's Radeon driver. However, there's a 2D-only Radeon 8500
> driver in XFree CVS now, which would at least get the board working.
> 
> I don't know ATI's intentions as far at Linux 3D support for the Radeon
> 8500 goes though. Anyone else know what the scoop is there?

They do make available register-level docs and sample code under NDA to
some developers. So at some point this will be supported. (and if someone
wants to work on this - send me an e-mail off the list. be warned though -
making DRI support for 8500 will require copious amounts of your time).
   
  Vladimir Dergachev

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Re: [Xpert]Radeon 7000 QD (32Mb DDR)

[Vladimir Dergachev]

> > 
> > I have found that the ATI2 drivers from the Gatos project will not work
> > with this card. The monitor ends up going into standby and the computer
> > hard locks.
> > 
> > But now, I get full GLX support. glxgears reports  900 fps.
> > 
> > Just my experience with this.
> > 
> 
> Is this really worth trying, dose this enable direct rendering?
> Can you play Quake Arena (The only thing that matters!)?


> I have a Radeon 8500 might this work with my card to?

No, it won't. Radeon 8500 has a different 3d pipeline.

  Vladimir Dergachev

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> > This is all messed up!! -- Mike
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Re: [Xpert]*Severe* time lossage with XF86 4.1.0 and S3Virge MX LCD

[John Tapsell]

On Saturday 05 January 2002 18:26, you wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, John Tapsell wrote:
> > but could you try with the latest 2.4 kernel?  just to check - thanks.
>
> Tried *that*, too: 2.2.19, 2.4.4, 2.4.17 . No difference. If I'd had the
> right binutils, I'd've checked against 2.5.1, but I'm sure it wouldn't
> have mattered.

downgrade your binutils :)
Or use 2.5.1-mjc1 or later which uses my patch to fix this problem - don't 
think it is completely fixed yet tho (do you know how many drivers there 
are.. sigh)

uh, but no point doing this for this problem tho.

JohnFlux

>
>   -Kenny
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[Xpert]Re: Radeon 7000 QD (32Mb DDR)

[Derek J Witt]

Yeah, I was using the latest XFree86 4.1.0 drivers from GATOS's web site
and DRM drivers from there, too.  Hmm... Using "CrtScreen" should fix that
standby problem?  Is the framebuffer still needed for the radeaon X
driver? On my roommate's Gateway 2k box here, I have it running the
framebuffer and specifying the amount of vram in XF86Config-4.

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Re: [Xpert]*Severe* time lossage with XF86 4.1.0 and S3Virge MX LCD

[Kenneth Crudup]

On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, John Tapsell wrote:

> but could you try with the latest 2.4 kernel?  just to check - thanks.

Tried *that*, too: 2.2.19, 2.4.4, 2.4.17 . No difference. If I'd had the
right binutils, I'd've checked against 2.5.1, but I'm sure it wouldn't
have mattered.

-Kenny

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Re: [Xpert]*Severe* time lossage with XF86 4.1.0 and S3Virge MX LCD

[Kenneth Crudup]

On Sat, 5 Jan 2002, Kevin Brosius wrote:

> > > It could also be that your video card has an interrupt line that is
> > > assigned (check in BIOS).

> The BIOS doesn't contain this setting?  (I've yet to meet a laptop
> without a BIOS setup.)

I *have* a BIOS setup. I don't have any settings for much, including
VGA IRQ assignment.

FWIW:

Bus  0, device   8, function  0:
VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. ViRGE/MX (rev 6).
  Master Capable.  No bursts.  Min Gnt=4.Max Lat=255.
  Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xc000 [0xc3ff].


> If you want to really cut back the virge driver, try the following;



I did all that already. No difference.

> If you do run this, I'd be interested in seeing the log
> file again.  Don't know if anyone else cares, so feel free to send it to
> me privately.

Will do.

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[Xpert]next binary version of XFree86 ?

[Jacek Popławski]

Sometime ago I wrote here about problems with Radeon and undefined symbols.
Yes, it was bad installation problem. CVS version compiles, but only partial.
There is problem with compiling os-support/linux (tested on 2 different systems
with gcc-2.95.3 and latest Linux kernels (some problem with SIS?)), so I
skipped few directories, and now it works. 
The problem is new RTCW demo doesn't work (hangs whole system, oldest demo and
other OpenGL apps work correctly), so maybe it is the reason.  I can't use
XFree86-4.1.0 with Radeon VE, so I want to ask when next XFree86 version is
going to be released, or where can I download any binary post-4.1.0 versions?

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Re: [Xpert]Radeon 7000 QD (32Mb DDR)

[Derrik Pates]

On Sat, 5 Jan 2002, Mike Mestnik wrote:

> Is this really worth trying, dose this enable direct rendering?
> Can you play Quake Arena (The only thing that matters!)?
> I have a Radeon 8500 might this work with my card to?

No. The Radeon 7000/7200/7500 boards's display controller is closely
related to the "original" Radeon, enough so that this should theoretically
work. The 8500, however, has some significant differences from both the
7x00 Radeons and the "original" Radeon that make it truly incompatible
with XFree86 4.1.0's Radeon driver. However, there's a 2D-only Radeon 8500
driver in XFree CVS now, which would at least get the board working.

I don't know ATI's intentions as far at Linux 3D support for the Radeon
8500 goes though. Anyone else know what the scoop is there?

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[Xpert]Keyboard repeat problem

[Teemu Rinta-aho]

I am resending this as I have got zero replies so far. Next step is to fix
it, I just wonder if anyone is going to help me...

BR,
Teemu

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Subject: Keyboard repeat problem on Portege 4000

Hi all,

I use XFree86 4.1.0 on a Toshiba Portege 4000 laptop installed from
NetBSD's xsrc module which was updated today, just before the compilation.

The problem is that when typing fast the keyboard sends some keys twice or
more ressulttinggg llikkke thhiiisss. The problem is only in X, not on
console, and only with the internal keyboard of the laptop, not the
external. I have tried to fix the problem with the X "BounceKeys" setting,
and it seems to help for a while, but after being in X for something like
20-30 minutes, it seems like the BounceKeys option resets itself, and they
keyboard starts repeating by itself again.

I know that the problem has occurred on other people too, namely Hubert
Freyer (http://mail-index.netbsd.org/tech-x11/2001/11/02/.html), and
under a different operating system also using XFree86 4.1.0, namely Linux
(http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/linux/portege4000.html).

It would be great if there was a solution to this, but even if there
isn't, I'd appreciate if someone gave me tips on how to debug this
problem more. How can I probe the BounceKeys option status while
running X, for example.

BR,
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Re: [Xpert]Radeon 7000 QD (32Mb DDR)

[Mike Mestnik]

--- Derek J Witt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Good day, everyone.  I have found a way to get this card to work with
> XFree86 4.1.0.  I had to recompile the kernel with the AGP support module
> (agpgart), the Radeon framebuffer modules (radeonfb), and the DRM updates
> from dri.sourceforge.net.  I am using the 2.4.17 kernel.  The framebuffer
> module has to be compiled as a module. If it's compiled into the kernel,
> the scrolling mechanism is messed up; I get just a one-line buffer at the
> top of the screen (overlapping the tux logo) until the screen is cleared
> (via "clear").
> 
> Then in my XF86Config-4 file, I put this into my Device section:
> 
> Section "Device"
>   Driver  "radeon"
>   VideoRam 32768
>   Option  "UseDepthMoves"
>   Option  "UseFBDev"
> EndSection
> 
> Now, "UseFBDev" must be in there, or XFree86 will either say no screens
> found or the monitor will go on standby and freeze the computer.
> 
> I have found that the ATI2 drivers from the Gatos project will not work
> with this card. The monitor ends up going into standby and the computer
> hard locks.
> 
> But now, I get full GLX support. glxgears reports  900 fps.
> 
> Just my experience with this.
> 

Is this really worth trying, dose this enable direct rendering?
Can you play Quake Arena (The only thing that matters!)?
I have a Radeon 8500 might this work with my card to?

>
> This is all messed up!! -- Mike
>
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Re: [Xpert]*Severe* time lossage with XF86 4.1.0 and S3Virge MX LCD

[John Tapsell]

Hate to be an ass, but could you try with the latest 2.4 kernel?  just to 
check - thanks.
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RE: [Xpert]CVS borkage

[Jon Dixon]

-Original Message-
From: Ali Akcaagac [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 05 January 2002 12:49
To: Jon Dixon
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Xpert]CVS borkage

>>well, i was able solving all issues by commenting the lines out. but i
vote for a REAL >>fix :)

Especially for those who have the card it's needed for :)) Personally, I
have a Radeon ...

Rgds

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Re: [Xpert]CVS borkage

[Ali Akcaagac]

On Sat, 2002-01-05 at 13:35, Jon Dixon wrote:
> > attachment contains detailed output.
> 
> The same happened to me the other night on 2 occasions. On both occasions all 
> I did was remove references to sis/SiS from the relevant makefiles.
> 
> Didn't log where it did it - sorry - but I can vouch for it fixing it.

well, i was able solving all issues by commenting the lines out. but i
vote for a REAL fix :)

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Re: [Xpert]CVS borkage

[Jon Dixon]

On Saturday 05 January 2002 12:12 pm, you wrote:

> hello,
>
> ive seen some people reporting this already here. since a few days i
> detect the same issues with the SIS driver (well i dont use that one
> since i have a mga driver) but doing a make World and then 'make' again
> i detect that the sis DRI driver seem to be broken totally. i would like
> to have them fixed if possible. i was able solving the first problem by
> commenting some lines out then the second problem occoured.
>
> i use linux 2.4.17 with build in MGA DRI support.
>
> attachment contains detailed output.

Hi Ali

The same happened to me the other night on 2 occasions. On both occasions all 
I did was remove references to sis/SiS from the relevant makefiles.

Didn't log where it did it - sorry - but I can vouch for it fixing it.

Rgds

Jon
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Re: [Xpert]*Severe* time lossage with XF86 4.1.0 and S3Virge MX LCD

[Kevin Brosius]

Kenneth Crudup wrote:
> 

...

> 
> > It could also be that your video card has an interrupt line that is
> > assigned (check in BIOS).
> 
> It's a laptop- I can't check it in the BIOS, but "/proc/pci" and
> "/proc/interrupts" say no.
> 

The BIOS doesn't contain this setting?  (I've yet to meet a laptop
without a BIOS setup.)  I checked /proc here, and /proc/pci does change
when I modify the BIOS 'assign IRQ to VGA' setting by adding a IRQ
number to the end of the device line (like this example, from a laptop):
  Bus  0, device   8, function  0:
VGA compatible controller: Neomagic Corporation [MagicMedia 256AV]
(rev 32).
  IRQ 9.
When the BIOS setting is off, the only difference seems to be removal of
the 'IRQ 9' part.

However, /proc/interrupts is not an indicator.  It shows no change. 
Only devices which are tied to kernel drivers are listed here.

If you want to really cut back the virge driver, try the following; you
listed:

---
Section "Device"
Identifier  "S3 ViRGE/MX"
VendorName  "S3"
Driver  "s3virge"
BoardName   "ViRGE/MX"
Option  "fifo_aggressive"
Option  "pci_burst"
Option  "pci_retry"
EndSection
---

Comment out the options:
Option  "fifo_aggressive"
Option  "pci_burst"
Option  "pci_retry"
and add
Option  "noaccel"

then try your test again.  Also, verify again that an IRQ doesn't appear
in /proc/pci.  If you do run this, I'd be interested in seeing the log
file again.  Don't know if anyone else cares, so feel free to send it to
me privately.

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[Xpert]CVS borkage

[Ali Akcaagac]

hello,

ive seen some people reporting this already here. since a few days i
detect the same issues with the SIS driver (well i dont use that one
since i have a mga driver) but doing a make World and then 'make' again
i detect that the sis DRI driver seem to be broken totally. i would like
to have them fixed if possible. i was able solving the first problem by
commenting some lines out then the second problem occoured.

i use linux 2.4.17 with build in MGA DRI support.

attachment contains detailed output.

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Re: [Xpert]Radeon 7000 QD (32Mb DDR)

[Vladimir Dergachev]

On Sat, 5 Jan 2002, Derek J Witt wrote:

> Good day, everyone.  I have found a way to get this card to work with
> XFree86 4.1.0.  I had to recompile the kernel with the AGP support module
> (agpgart), the Radeon framebuffer modules (radeonfb), and the DRM updates
> from dri.sourceforge.net.  I am using the 2.4.17 kernel.  The framebuffer
> module has to be compiled as a module. If it's compiled into the kernel,
> the scrolling mechanism is messed up; I get just a one-line buffer at the
> top of the screen (overlapping the tux logo) until the screen is cleared
> (via "clear").
> 
> Then in my XF86Config-4 file, I put this into my Device section:
> 
> Section "Device"
>   Driver  "radeon"
>   VideoRam 32768
>   Option  "UseDepthMoves"
>   Option  "UseFBDev"
> EndSection
> 
> Now, "UseFBDev" must be in there, or XFree86 will either say no screens
> found or the monitor will go on standby and freeze the computer.
> 
> I have found that the ATI2 drivers from the Gatos project will not work
> with this card. The monitor ends up going into standby and the computer
> hard locks.

Which drivers ? If you have tried the latest ones they will not work with
standard dri modules (and will produce a lockup). 

As for monitor going into standby try using Option "CrtScreen".

 Vladimir Dergachev

> 
> But now, I get full GLX support. glxgears reports  900 fps.
> 
> Just my experience with this.
> 
> **  Derek J Witt  **
> *   Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   *
> *   Home Page: http://www.flinthills.com/~djw/ *
> *** "...and on the eighth day, God met Bill Gates." - Unknown **
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[Xpert]Re: Xfree 4.1, Matrox G-450 Dualhead questions

[Dmitry Yu. Bolkhovityanov]

On Fri, 4 Jan 2002 10:50:18 -0800, Tom Manning wrote:

> I've been reading everything I can find on this card, and there's so
> much conflicting and outdated info out there I'm getting confused.  I'm
> running Mandrake 8.1 on an older Pentium II, with a BX chipset.  
>
> **I know some of these questions are newbie type questions, but if I
> fully understood the howtos and such I wouldn't ask, so please bare with
> me :-)**
> 
> I'm considering buying a G450 for dualhead on my machine, but I want to
> know if I can hook up a 19" (primary) monitor and a 15" (satellite)
> monitor with few problems, at different resolutions. I've heard that
> matrox has antialiasing problems with their drivers though. Is that
> still true? Does anyone have specifics? Can I run it in Xinerama, with
> one big desktop, at different resolutions? Do I have to, or can I have
> two separate desktops running, just sacrificing the ability to move
> windows from one screen to the other?

You can easily do what you want.

Regarding antialiasing: there were some problems with Render
extension (which does antialiasing) in dualhead config, but they are fixed
now (don't remember exactly whether in XFree86 or in Matrox's driver).

Regarding one big desktop (Xinerama) in different resolutions:
this setup will work, but support in some window managers can be lacking.
In short: the problem is a presence of a "black hole" (see picture),

+--+-+
|  | 800x|
| 1600x| 600 |
| 1200 |-+
|  |  <-- "black hole"
+--+

which isn't visible on any of the displays and isn't reachable by mouse.
The part of the problem is not WMs, but Xinerama-unaware toolkits, which
can wish to place some dialog windows into that area.  At least FVWM has a
feature to move all such windows into visible space.  Other Xinerama-aware 
WMs (I've made a quick survey of almost all of them, except AfterStep)
should at least do *their* placement correctly.

> In short, why would I NOT want to buy this card?

The only reason can be 3D, which is not "bleeding edge" on Matrox.

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  Dmitry Yu. Bolkhovityanov
  The Budker Institute of Nuclear Physics
  Novosibirsk, Russia


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[Xpert]Radeon 7000 QD (32Mb DDR)

[Derek J Witt]

Good day, everyone.  I have found a way to get this card to work with
XFree86 4.1.0.  I had to recompile the kernel with the AGP support module
(agpgart), the Radeon framebuffer modules (radeonfb), and the DRM updates
from dri.sourceforge.net.  I am using the 2.4.17 kernel.  The framebuffer
module has to be compiled as a module. If it's compiled into the kernel,
the scrolling mechanism is messed up; I get just a one-line buffer at the
top of the screen (overlapping the tux logo) until the screen is cleared
(via "clear").

Then in my XF86Config-4 file, I put this into my Device section:

Section "Device"
Driver  "radeon"
VideoRam 32768
Option  "UseDepthMoves"
Option  "UseFBDev"
EndSection

Now, "UseFBDev" must be in there, or XFree86 will either say no screens
found or the monitor will go on standby and freeze the computer.

I have found that the ATI2 drivers from the Gatos project will not work
with this card. The monitor ends up going into standby and the computer
hard locks.

But now, I get full GLX support. glxgears reports  900 fps.

Just my experience with this.

**  Derek J Witt  **
*   Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   *
*   Home Page: http://www.flinthills.com/~djw/ *
*** "...and on the eighth day, God met Bill Gates." - Unknown **

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