Re: [ydl-gen] Cannot "yum upgrade" from ydl-6 to ydl-6.1

[Stephen Harker]

On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 08:39:35AM -0500, Derick Centeno wrote:
> Hi John:
> 
> I'm pleased to discover of your success and that your approach appears
> to be working for you.  I recall coming across a dated, but
> still useful, explanation discussing upgrading across versions.
> Unfortunately I had not recalled exactly where the reference was
> located.

On the question of a 'yum upgrade' I have found it works okay, but you
need to check for non-upgraded rpm's (due to the version problem
mentioned earlier in the thread).  For example, after upgrading from
ydl6 to ydl6.1 I did 

 rpm -qa --last > rpmlist.txt

Looking through the file thus created I scrolled down to a point where
I found:

chkconfig-1.3.30.1-2  Sat 10 Jan 2009 21:45:45 EST
libxml2-2.6.26-2.1.2.6Sat 10 Jan 2009 21:45:43 EST
popt-1.10.2-48.ydl6.1 Sat 10 Jan 2009 21:45:41 EST
libX11-1.0.3-9Sat 10 Jan 2009 21:44:57 EST
bash-3.2-21   Sat 10 Jan 2009 21:44:51 EST
lm_sensors-devel-2.10.0-3.1.ydl.1 Sun 07 Dec 2008 10:39:13 EST
gnokii-0.6.14-2.fc6   Sun 30 Nov 2008 14:02:15 EST
lzo-2.02-2Sat 29 Nov 2008 19:34:00 EST
acpid-1.0.4-5.ydl.1   Sat 29 Nov 2008 19:11:08 EST
setools-devel-3.0-3   Sat 29 Nov 2008 19:00:07 EST
setools-3.0-3 Sat 29 Nov 2008 19:00:03 EST

This shows where the change from new rpm's (10 Jan 2009) to 'old'
rpm's.  I then manually forced the install of the new versions of
these 'old' rpm's.  This gives a consistent new version.  Finally I
run a script which uses find to search for all 'rpmold' 'rpmnew' and
similar files so I can check and fix files where necessary changes
have occurred.

I hope this is of some use to others in making sure their systems are
consistent. 

-- 
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PEMS
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Re: [ydl-gen] Cannot "yum upgrade" from ydl-6 to ydl-6.1

[John Frankish]

Hi,

There's a newer notice here

quote from http://us.fixstars.com/resources/

Upgrading to the next version of Yellow Dog Linux
While updating your installed applications from YDL v6.x to v6.y (for 
example) is condudted [sic] via the "yum upgrade" command, when 
upgrading from one version of Yellow Dog Linux to the next, for 
instance, from YDL v5.0.1 to YDL v6.0, it is likely you will need to 
reinstall the entire OS. Before you do this, it is prudent to backup 
your /home/[username]/ directory to an external storage device.


John
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At 17:39 11-01-09, you wrote:

Hi John:

I'm pleased to discover of your success and that your approach appears
to be working for you.  I recall coming across a dated, but
still useful, explanation discussing upgrading across versions.
Unfortunately I had not recalled exactly where the reference was
located.

It does correct my previous submission on this topic however at the risk
of reading too much into a phrase, I would like to highlight and
express my modified concern.

The link is here: http://us.fixstars.com/products/faq/upgrade.shtml

The phrase, embedded in the first sentence reflecting my caution begins
with "usually".  Hopefully, recalling this could be helpful in the
future should you need to track down a recurring anomaly.

On Sun, 11 Jan 2009
08:23:13 +0400 John Frankish  wrote:

> Thanks for the reply.
>
> It turns out I needed the correct /etc/yum.repos.d/yellowdog-{base,
> updates, extras}.repo addresses for ydl-6.1. After renaming the
> existing ydl-6.0 repos and replacing them with the ydl-6.1 repos "yum
> upgrade" worked fine and I'm now running ydl-6.1.
>
> If I recall correctly, the upgrade from ydl-6.0 to ydl-6.1 was 40 new
> packages and 296 updated packages for a total of 518MB - so better
> than downloading a new 4GB iso.
>
> John
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Re: [ydl-gen] Cannot "yum upgrade" from ydl-6 to ydl-6.1

[Derick Centeno]

Hi John:

I'm pleased to discover of your success and that your approach appears
to be working for you.  I recall coming across a dated, but
still useful, explanation discussing upgrading across versions.
Unfortunately I had not recalled exactly where the reference was
located.

It does correct my previous submission on this topic however at the risk
of reading too much into a phrase, I would like to highlight and
express my modified concern.

The link is here: http://us.fixstars.com/products/faq/upgrade.shtml

The phrase, embedded in the first sentence reflecting my caution begins
with "usually".  Hopefully, recalling this could be helpful in the
future should you need to track down a recurring anomaly. 

On Sun, 11 Jan 2009
08:23:13 +0400 John Frankish  wrote:

> Thanks for the reply.
> 
> It turns out I needed the correct /etc/yum.repos.d/yellowdog-{base, 
> updates, extras}.repo addresses for ydl-6.1. After renaming the 
> existing ydl-6.0 repos and replacing them with the ydl-6.1 repos "yum 
> upgrade" worked fine and I'm now running ydl-6.1.
> 
> If I recall correctly, the upgrade from ydl-6.0 to ydl-6.1 was 40 new 
> packages and 296 updated packages for a total of 518MB - so better 
> than downloading a new 4GB iso.
> 
> John
> --


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Re: [ydl-gen] Cannot "yum upgrade" from ydl-6 to ydl-6.1

[John Frankish]

Thanks for the reply.

It turns out I needed the correct /etc/yum.repos.d/yellowdog-{base, 
updates, extras}.repo addresses for ydl-6.1. After renaming the 
existing ydl-6.0 repos and replacing them with the ydl-6.1 repos "yum 
upgrade" worked fine and I'm now running ydl-6.1.

If I recall correctly, the upgrade from ydl-6.0 to ydl-6.1 was 40 new 
packages and 296 updated packages for a total of 518MB - so better 
than downloading a new 4GB iso.

John
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At 00:14 11-01-09, you wrote:
>Hi John:
>
>There are two components to your question:
>
>1.  The rules governing linux software version numbering, which could
>be researched elsewhere.  It is beyond the scope of this method of
>communication, ie. via this kind of mailing list.
>
>2.  Very briefly, YDL 6.1 is not an upgrade from YDL 6.0 but a
>completely unique and separate release and progression beyond YDL 6.0.
>Therefore there is no way to upgrade between the two releases via yum.
>
>On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 17:13:11 +0400
>John Frankish  wrote:
>
> > I've been trying to use "yum upgrade" to upgrade from ydl-6.0 to
> > ydl-6.1 without success - basically I get the message that there are
> > no packages to upgrade.
> >
> > Do I need to modify /etc/yum.repos.d/yellowdog-base or is there
> > another trick to this
> >
> > Thanks
> > John
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Re: [ydl-gen] Cannot "yum upgrade" from ydl-6 to ydl-6.1

[Derick Centeno]

Hi John:

There are two components to your question:

1.  The rules governing linux software version numbering, which could
be researched elsewhere.  It is beyond the scope of this method of
communication, ie. via this kind of mailing list.

2.  Very briefly, YDL 6.1 is not an upgrade from YDL 6.0 but a
completely unique and separate release and progression beyond YDL 6.0.
Therefore there is no way to upgrade between the two releases via yum.

On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 17:13:11 +0400
John Frankish  wrote:

> I've been trying to use "yum upgrade" to upgrade from ydl-6.0 to 
> ydl-6.1 without success - basically I get the message that there are 
> no packages to upgrade.
> 
> Do I need to modify /etc/yum.repos.d/yellowdog-base or is there 
> another trick to this
> 
> Thanks
> John
> 
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[ydl-gen] Cannot "yum upgrade" from ydl-6 to ydl-6.1

[John Frankish]

I've been trying to use "yum upgrade" to upgrade from ydl-6.0 to 
ydl-6.1 without success - basically I get the message that there are 
no packages to upgrade.

Do I need to modify /etc/yum.repos.d/yellowdog-base or is there 
another trick to this

Thanks
John

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