Re: [Zim-wiki] theme settings ignored in Zim 0.74.2 for Windows

[Brendan Kidwell]

Yes I had … "[settings]" in my settings.ini file.

I'm glad I copied and pasted a quote from you EXACTLY. "[Settings]" is case 
sensitive! Thanks for the helpful reply.

I still can't get my downloaded theme to work, but "dark" is working with the 
Default theme, so I consider my problem resolved and I'm not looking into it 
further.

On Tue, Nov 16, 2021, at 16:40, Chuck Esterbrook wrote:
> You didn't mention "[Settings]" so I'm not sure if you have it in your 
> settings.ini file. My exact file content are these two lines:
> 
> [Settings]
> gtk-application-prefer-dark-theme=1
> 
> Same path at  C:\Program Files\Zim Desktop Wiki\etc\gtk-3.0\settings.ini
> 
> Works for me in Zim 0.74.1 on Windows 10 (2004). Haven't tried 0.74.2 yet.
> 
> It's gtk.css I cannot get to work which is necessary to change the page view 
> background color, though most colors are done in an entirely different file 
> (style.conf).
> 
> -Chuck
> 
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[Zim-wiki] theme settings ignored in Zim 0.74.2 for Windows

[Brendan Kidwell]

Has anyone got their GTK 3 theme working right in Zim 0.74.2 for Windows?

Previously in 0.73 I had set « gtk-application-prefer-dark-theme=1 » in 
"C:\Program Files\Zim Desktop Wiki\etc\gtk-3.0\settings.ini", and it worked for 
me. Zim used a dark theme.

Now this setting is ignored in 0.74.2.

I tried installing the theme "Ultimate-Dark-(Flat)-Green" from gnome-look.org, 
under "C:\Program Files\Zim Desktop Wiki\share\themes" and set « 
gtk-theme-name="Ultimate-Dark-(Flat)-Green" » in settings.ini. Still no effect.

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[Zim-wiki] Use Markor on Android to edit Zim pages (was: Zim VS Android)

[Brendan Kidwell]

A friend told me today that Markor has support for the Zim text format now 
since last December.

At a bare minimum, it seems that you can use Markor on Android to view, search, 
and edit pages in your Zim notebooks. I would suggest using Syncthing to sync 
notebooks between your Android computer and your desktop environment.

I'm going to try it out this month and write it upon the Zim support wiki. 
Anyone else feel free to do it there if I haven't got to it yet. This is 
exciting.

On Mon, Aug 10, 2020, at 10:53, Johan Vromans wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 15:41:34 +0200, D  wrote:
>
>> Not that I know of, but there's an opportunity to implement this in Markor
>> , as the developer
>> mentioned it here
>> .
>
> Interesting... The fact that the author is aware of the zim-wiki format is
> promising.
>
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[Zim-wiki] Zim Desktop Wiki IRC chat room moved from Freenode to Libera Chat

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Hi all,

There has been some excitement in the Freenode community in the past month. I 
won't get into the political details here, but to make a long story short, 
almost all of the people who used to be sysadmins and staff on Freenode IRC 
network are now running a new network called Libera Chat. As the 
owner/moderator of our IRC chat room, I chose to follow the people to the new 
brand name.

As of right now, Zim Desktop Wiki's official IRC chat room is running on Libera 
Chat.

Server:  irc.libera.chat
Port:6697 (enable TLS/SSL)
Channel: #zim-wiki
Web access:  https://web.libera.chat/#zim-wiki

For more information, see https://zim.glump.net/irc-chat-room/ .

*Jaap*, I believe you are maintainer of the Zim Desktop Wiki web site. Can you 
please update https://zim-wiki.org/contact.html to say "Channel #zim-wiki on 
the Libera Chat IRC network. (Access from your web browser at 
https://web.libera.chat/#zim-wiki .)"? -- Or edit as you see fit.

Thanks.

Brendan Kidwell
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Re: [Zim-wiki] WIndows installer for zim 0.73.1

[Brendan Kidwell]

(sn...@glump.net is me, Brendan Kidwell. I really need to fix my Fastmail 
config.)

On Thu, Jul 2, 2020, at 01:27, sn...@glump.net wrote:
> Thank you Fabian and Jaap! I'll make a note on my web site that the old 
> Windows installer project is ended and superseded, with a link to the Zim web 
> site for post-0.69 packages.
> 
> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020, at 14:00, Jaap Karssenberg wrote:
>> Dear all,
>> 
>> I have uploaded the new windows installer for zim 0.73.1 to the website. You 
>> can download it here: https://zim-wiki.org/downloads/
>> 
>> Thanks to Fabian for doing all the work to prepare a new build script for 
>> the 0.7x series and make it work so smoothly.
>> 
>> If you encounter any hiccups with the installation, please report via GitHub 
>> and clearly put "windows installer" in the subject line.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Jaap
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[Zim-wiki] hint for future Zim package maintainer for Windows: Pyinstaller bug #4125 is resolved; was blocking us

[Brendan Kidwell]

A while ago I stepped down as Windows package maintainer for Zim. ( 
https://zim.glump.net/misc/brendan-kidwell-stepping-down-as-zim-windows-package-maintainer/
 )

As I stated in that mailing list post, I was blocked by 
https://github.com/pyinstaller/pyinstaller/issues/4125 , among other things.

Someone brought up in the that Zim chat room a few days ago that #4125 in 
Pyinstaller has been resolved. I don't know exactly how much work needs to be 
done to build an installer building process for Zim 0.70+ on Windows, and I 
don't have the energy to work on it. I'm just passing on to everyone that this 
blocker is resolved.

If you're thinking of trying to build an installer for Zim on Windows, look at 
my previous work in the /windows folder of the Zim source tree and feel free to 
ask me specific questions here or on IRC. ( 
https://zim.glump.net/irc-chat-room/ -- North America business hours and 
evenings are best for me.)

Brendan Kidwell

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[Zim-wiki] I'm stepping down as Windows package maintainer. Manual install instructions included here!

[Brendan Kidwell]

Hi all,

I had another go at updating my Windows package building workflow, for Zim 
0.70+ using Python 3 and GTK 3. It does not go well.

The only good way I could come up with to install GTK 3 for Python 3 in Windows 
is using the MSYS2 system, and this much does work -- see below! Unfortunately, 
moving forward from there I could not get any of the installer builder systems 
for Python to work.

These installer builder tools do the hard work of putting your source code into 
some kind of bundle and copying the Python interpreter and all the libraries 
and resource files you depend on into your build folder. I got the furthest 
with Pyinstaller, but it does not work. Pyinstaller created a 'dist' folder 
corrupted filenames/paths for "_struct_python-37m" and "zlib-cpython-37m". I 
copies those in from the installed files in MSYS2, but then when I ran the 
result, Python says it can't find 'math'. That sounds bad.

Issue 4125 on pyinstaller has been open for a few months about this. 
https://github.com/pyinstaller/pyinstaller/issues/4125

I have decided that personally I do not have the time and energy to deal with 
this anymore. Building a Windows VM to work in is a pain, and my personal 
netbook can't possibly even do this job so I have to use something else when 
I'm working on the Windows installer for Zim.



So I am officially no longer the maintainer of the Windows installer for Zim. 
Going forward, please use my manual install instructions reference below, or 
use the installer for Zim 0.69, which still works fine and its payload is 
relatively bug-free.

I will keep my Zim web site about the IRC chat room and about the old Windows 
installer online indefinitely.

I am eager to help anyone else take over the role of building a new installer 
for Zim on Windows. I can explain the work I did on the old GTK 2-compatiable 
installer, and I'm happy to host any builds the new maintainer can get working, 
if they do not host it themselves.



I spent a couple of hours documenting how to install Zim manaully, from source, 
on Windows 7 or later, using the MSYS2 software catalog and package manager. 
*Unfortuantely, you will need 1GB of space to do it!* If this doesn't sound 
like a good idea for you or if the howto below is too complicated, please 
continue using Zim 0.69 for Windows found on my web site at 
https://zim.glump.net/windows/ .

Here are my instructions for installing Zim 0.70 or later under MSYS2:
https://github.com/jaap-karssenberg/zim-wiki/wiki/Install-Zim-0.70-or-Later-in-Windows
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[Zim-wiki] status of Zim Desktop Wiki for Windows -- I'm taking it a break right now, but someone else can take over

[Brendan Kidwell]

Hi all,

Thanks to Jaap and any other contributors for all the hard work porting
Zim to Python 3 and GTK 3! I look forward to using it.
Last month, Jaap released Zim 0.69 (Python 2 / GTK 2) and I successfully
ran the build process for Windows, but didn't get around to publishing
it. I've been using my 0.69 build and aside from the existing things we
don't know how to fix from before, it's working. I will sign the Windows
full install and portable install packages and upload them to the Zim
for Windows site probably tonight. (Sorry I got distracted in the mean
time. I've been sick.)
Also last month I started to try to build the Python 3 and GTK 3 branch
of Zim. I had some trouble with dependency hell, even though I was using
pip and pyinstaller. I do not know how close I am to a solution. I will
not be focusing on this effort, personally; I have other personal
projects on the table, and I don't know how many hours I can put into
this in the next month or two.
If anyone wants to try to build Zim 0.70 RC1 using Python 3 and GTK 3 on
WINDOWS, with the intention of packaging and sharing it, my
recommendation would be to stick with pip and pyinstaller, and try to do
things as simple as possible. Py2exe (used by the build script for the
Python 2 version of Zim) has not seen a release since 2008, while
pyinstaller claims to know how to deal with GTK 3, out of the box. For
the build and packaging steps that aren't covered by pyinstaller, you
can probably lift ideas from my Zim for Python 2 build process in
"./windows" in the Git repository.
If you come up with a good clean solution that's easily repeatable
(download 1 or 2 dependencies, run a shell script or two), that's great!
Show it to the team and let's delete the old build process and replace
it with yours in the Git repository. GPG-sign your installer executables
and I'd be happy to put them on my site. (Or you can take over Windows
installer hosting.)
If no one else comes up with a nice solution for packaging Zim 0.70 for
Windows, I'll probably get something working by March or April.
Brendan Kidwell

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Re: [Zim-wiki] Flatpak of Zim 'next' is now available

[Brendan Kidwell]

Thanks. I might give it a try later. This will help a lot with future testing.

Brendan Kidwell

On Sat, Jul 7, 2018, at 07:49, Robin Lee wrote:
> Hi, all
> 
> A good feature of Flatpak is easy to multiple versions of a program.
> 
> To let people easy to test the python3 and Gtk3 based Zim 'next',
> I just make a flatpak for it.
> 
> You can install it from my fedorapeople site.
> 
> flatpak --user remote-add --if-not-exists --no-gpg-verify zim-next
> https://cheeselee.fedorapeople.org/zim-next-flatpak/
> flatpak --user install zim-next  org.zim_wiki.Zim//next
> flatpak  run org.zim_wiki.Zim//next
> 
> Quick setup for Flatpak is available here[1].
> 
> [1] https://flatpak.org/setup/
> 

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[Zim-wiki] Zim 0.68 for Windows released

[Brendan Kidwell]

Zim for Windows package home page:
https://zim.glump.net/windows/

RSS feed:
https://zim.glump.net/windows/news/?format=rss

Desktop installer:
https://zim.glump.net/site/assets/files/1092/zim-desktop-wiki-setup-0_68.exe 
(15MiB)
Portable installer:
https://zim.glump.net/site/assets/files/1091/zim-desktop-wiki-portable-0_68.exe 
(15MiB)

I saw a note somewhere saying that 0.68 will be the last Python 2 + GTK
2 release of Zim. When the Python 3 + GTK 3 port goes live, I'll
probably need to redo the Windows build process because there are better
tools available in the Python 3 ecosystem. It may take me a while to get
this done. I invite any interested parties to contribute in any way,
from helping with the build process all the way up to taking ownership
of zim.glump.net. :^)
Brendan Kidwell

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Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim building problems

[Brendan Kidwell]

Did you install all of the requirements listed in the Windows
build 
readme?https://raw.githubusercontent.com/jaap-karssenberg/zim-desktop-wiki/master/windows/README-BUILD-win32.txt
Silly question: do you think the folder name
"MyCode.Source\Source.Upload" might have anything to do with it? Having
periods in the name SHOULDN'T be a problem, but you never know with old
broken systems like GTK2.
I can't be sure from your debug log, so I'm just checking: Did you run
windows/build_win32.py with the project root folder being the current
working folder? Did that script display any errors?
Brendan Kidwell

On Sun, Aug 27, 2017, at 00:50, mystyc wrote:
> Is anyone else having trouble with trying to build Zim on Windows from
> the current 0.67 source on github?  I'm actually able to fully build
> the executables, but they won't run.> 
> Here's what I get for the debugger output when I try to run the zim
> executable:>> INFO: This is zim 0.67
>> DEBUG: Python version is sys.version_info(major=2, minor=7, micro=13,
>> releaselevel='final', serial=0)>> DEBUG: Platform is nt
>> DEBUG: No bzr version-info found
>> DEBUG: Running from a source dir:
>> D:\MyCode.Source\Source.Upload\Zim\windows\build\ZimDesktopWiki>> DEBUG: Set 
>> XDG_DATA_HOME to
>> D:\MyCode.Source\Source.Upload\Zim\windows\App\Data>> DEBUG: Set 
>> XDG_DATA_DIRS to [> D:\MyCode.Source\Source.Upload\Zim\windows\.local\share>]>> DEBUG: Set 
>> XDG_CONFIG_HOME to
>> D:\MyCode.Source\Source.Upload\Zim\windows\App\Config>> DEBUG: Set 
>> XDG_CONFIG_DIRS to [> D:\MyCode.Source\Source.Upload\Zim\windows\.config>]>> DEBUG: Set 
>> XDG_CACHE_HOME to
>> D:\MyCode.Source\Source.Upload\Zim\windows\App\Cache>> ERROR: Exception in 
>> main()
>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>   File "zim\main\__init__.pyo", line 844, in main
>>   File "zim\main\__init__.pyo", line 626, in run
>>   File "zim\main\__init__.pyo", line 656, in _run_cmd
>>   File "zim\main\__init__.pyo", line 663, in _run_main_loop
>>   File "gtk\__init__.pyo", line 40, in 
>>   File "gtk\_gtk.pyo", line 12, in 
>>   File "gtk\_gtk.pyo", line 10, in __load
>> ImportError: DLL load failed: The specified module could not
>> be found.>> 
> 
> 
> With respect to the error referenced for line 663 of
> zim\main\__init__.pyo, I can import gtk and gobject in IDLE without
> any issues.> 
> Thanks~
> ~Kevin
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim 0.67 released

[Brendan Kidwell]

Published.

Brendan Kidwell

On Mon, Jul 10, 2017, at 12:03, Brendan Kidwell wrote:
> I will update the Windows build at https://zim.glump.net/windows/ in the next 
> day or two.
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim 0.67 released

[Brendan Kidwell]

I will update the Windows build at https://zim.glump.net/windows/ in the next 
day or two.
Brendan Kidwell


On Mon, Jul 10, 2017, at 09:08, Jaap Karssenberg wrote:
> After 2 release candidates I decided to release the 0.67 version today. Hope 
> it will perform better than the 0.66 release :S  At least the two release 
> candidates helpt to flush out a lot of issues, so I'm feeling positive about 
> using this kind of process again for the next release.
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Re: [Zim-wiki] One way round the clipboard issue in 0.66 in Windows

[Brendan Kidwell]

Thanks for sharing that, Bruce. It may be very helpful for many users
while we sort out the problems with the Windows build.

On Mon, May 22, 2017, at 10:40, Bruce Ax(tens) wrote:
> So I wrote a Custom Tool, using 8th . 


> This is the Custom Tool definition:


>> [Desktop Entry]
>>  Type=X-Zim-CustomTool
>>  Version=1.0
>>  GenericName=
>>  Name=CopyToClipboard
>>  Comment=Seeing as the current copy doesn't work
>>  Exec=
>>  TryExec=
>>  Icon=
>>  MimeType=
>>  Terminal=false
>>  NoDisplay=false
>>  X-Zim-ExecTool=8th.exe c:\bin\CopyToClipboard.8th "%t"
>>  X-Zim-ReadOnly=true
>>  X-Zim-ShowInToolBar=true
>>  X-Zim-ShowInContextMenu=Text
>>  X-Zim-ReplaceSelection=false


> And this is the 8th code (stored in CopyToClipboard.8th)


>> : main
>>  argc 0 = not if
>>  0 args 
>>  >clip
>>  then
>>  ;
>>  main bye


> There may be size limits to what I can pass in on %t to the script,
> but it's survival until 0.67.> Kind regards,


> Bruce.


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[Zim-wiki] New web site for Windows installer; found new energy to work on Windows installer

[Brendan Kidwell]

(Resending this from my correct mailing list subscription address. Jaap
if you see an older copy of this waiting in a quarantine queue for the
list, delete it. Sorry about that.)

I got a little sick of my WordPress custom post types that I was using
to host the Zim installer packages for Windows on my web site. I spent
tonight building a new web site using ProcessWire CMS. (I highly
recommend ProcessWire for rapid prototyping and small web content
projects.)

The new URL for Zim installers for Windows is:
https://zim.glump.net/windows/

Please subscribe to this RSS feed to get notified immediately when I
publish new installer packages or have other Windows-related Zim news:
https://zim.glump.net/windows/news/?format=rss

The old URLs will redirect to the new home page for at least 2 years.
Jaap, you can update the URL listed at
http://zim-wiki.org/downloads.html whenever you get around to it.



Additionally, I was thinking about all the Windows-related trouble we've
had with the 0.66 release -- the two big issues I'm aware of are that
what's in the installer package doesn't work on Windows 10, and
VirusTotal reports that Baidu and at least 1 other antivirus tool don't
want to say that my installer packages are clean.

The current install package building process relies on py2exe which
hasn't been maintained for 7 years. Additionally, when I created this
building process, Python's "setuptools" package (used by Zim) probably
did not have a Windows Zip and MSI package builder function; now it does
have those functions, and Nullsoft Installer System is no longer needed.

In the next few weeks, I'm going to start a branch off of the 0.66
source code release to try to resolve these issues. First I need to
update my Windows 7, 8.1 and 10 development virtual machine templates to
provide a testing platform; then I will work on removing the NSIS
dependency and resolving whatever issues remain.

I'll give you an update around the middle of June if I haven't finished
this work I'm planning, and I'll announce new installer packages here
when I'm satisfied with the result. The new packages will be based on
whatever is the current "stable" source code release at that time.

In the mean time, I recommend Windows users either stick with the 0.65
installer packages or install a complete Python and PyGTK environment on
your system and run Zim from the source code.

Thanks for your patience.


Brendan Kidwell


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[Zim-wiki] New web site for Windows installer; found new energy to work on Windows installer

[Brendan Kidwell]

I got a little sick of my WordPress custom post types that I was using
to host the Zim installer packages for Windows on my web site. I spent
tonight building a new web site using ProcessWire CMS. (I highly
recommend ProcessWire for rapid prototyping and small web content
projects.)

The new URL for Zim installers for Windows is:
https://zim.glump.net/windows/

Please subscribe to this RSS feed to get notified immediately when I
publish new installer packages or have other Windows-related Zim news:
https://zim.glump.net/windows/news/?format=rss

The old URLs will redirect to the new home page for at least 2 years.
Jaap, you can update the URL listed at
http://zim-wiki.org/downloads.html whenever you get around to it.



Additionally, I was thinking about all the Windows-related trouble we've
had with the 0.66 release -- the two big issues I'm aware of are that
what's in the installer package doesn't work on Windows 10, and
VirusTotal reports that Baidu and at least 1 other antivirus tool don't
want to say that my installer packages are clean.

The current install package building process relies on py2exe which
hasn't been maintained for 7 years. Additionally, when I created this
building process, Python's "setuptools" package (used by Zim) probably
did not have a Windows Zip and MSI package builder function; now it does
have those functions, and Nullsoft Installer System is no longer needed.

In the next few weeks, I'm going to start a branch off of the 0.66
source code release to try to resolve these issues. First I need to
update my Windows 7, 8.1 and 10 development virtual machine templates to
provide a testing platform; then I will work on removing the NSIS
dependency and resolving whatever issues remain.

I'll give you an update around the middle of June if I haven't finished
this work I'm planning, and I'll announce new installer packages here
when I'm satisfied with the result. The new packages will be based on
whatever is the current "stable" source code release at that time.

In the mean time, I recommend Windows users either stick with the 0.65
installer packages or install a complete Python and PyGTK environment on
your system and run Zim from the source code.

Thanks for your patience.


Brendan Kidwell

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Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim Desktop Wiki 0.66 for Windows is ready to download

[Brendan Kidwell]

Thank you for looking into this and sharing your Microsoft
conversation here.
As far as I can tell, you are looking at the process where Windows
authenticates the source of an executable. This is not relevant to
my process.
Getting a proper certificate to sign software so that Windows recognizes
the cert that was used to sign it always costs money. I'm not willing to
spend my money or the project's money on this process, when other
operating systems have different processes whereby you can publish
signed applications without paying money.
Additionally, if I'm not mistaken, ALL versions of Windows continue to
allow end-users to install ANY Windows applications they choose, whether
they are properly signed or not, provided the end-user has sufficient
local rights to do so.
We will not be signing our releases to make them authenticated in the
Windows install process unless someone else wishes to take over the Zim
for Windows release process from me. I feel it's not worth the price and
it's not necessary.
What I AM concerned about but have no energy to fight with is the
number of ANTI-VIRUS tools out there that claim that Zim's installers'
components (the NSIS installer script builder and the PortableApps.com
launcher) are malware. As these malware accusations are made against
the Zim packages, I am no longer signing the releases with my (free-of-
cost) GPG key, due to the fear-uncertainty-and-doubt involved. If YOUR
anti-virus solution does not detect the installer as malware, and YOU
decide this is a safe course of action, YOU should install my package
and use it.
If someone wants to pick a fight with the anti-virus tool vendors
that accuse NSIS and PortableApps.com of being malware, they're
welcome to try it. I can provide details of the accusations that need
to be disputed.
On Wed, May 10, 2017, at 17:57, Marcio Segura wrote:
> I contacted Microsoft about this issue and following is their answer:
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[Zim-wiki] Zim Desktop Wiki 0.66 for Windows is ready to download

[Brendan Kidwell]

VirusTotal.com reports non-zero "probably harmless" scores for many of
the dependencies of my Windows build process, even though I'm almost
certain the sources of those dependencies are not tainted.
VirusTotal.com reports that (as of today) Baidu and Bkav virus scanners
find "harmful" code in these Zim installer. Other than abandoning all of
my tools, I do not know how to move forward with this problem.
Starting with this release I am no longer signing the installer
packages, and while I believe they are free of harmful code, I can't
promise that I am correct. You must make your own determination about
whether you should use my packages or not.
Special thanks to Stephen Dintaman for assistance with this build cycle.
I have posted the Desktop and Portable installer packages, such as they
are, on http://www.glump.net/software/zim-windows .
The packages were built on a fresh Windows 7 64-bit virtual machine, and
they should work on any 32-bit or 64-bit version of Windows that is
still supported by Microsoft.
Brendan Kidwell

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Re: [Zim-wiki] ONCE MORE: Windows 7 Professional, 64 Bit: Copy via [Ctrl+c] from Zim not reliable

[Brendan Kidwell]

Murat, thank you for that workaround. I was not aware that Copy As
existed because it's missing from the Edit menu.

On Wed, Apr 26, 2017, at 05:29, Murat Güven wrote:
> just my 2 cents on this topic. May be it helps solving the issue.
> 
> Within my plugin "Convert2tags2mail" I provide a method to send the note 
> text as a mail to the selected tags.
> 
> For this, I use :
> mail_body = ''.join(self.window.pageview.page.dump(format='plain'))
> 
> Many times, the mail_body is truncated (say: not complete) or empty.
> 
> My workaround is then to select the whole note text within Zim, right 
> click and select "copy as" and then paste into the new (Outlook) mail 
> window.
> 
> This issue happens with all Windows versions, no matter of 32 bit or 64
> bit.
> 
> So I suspect, it's not the clipboard but the the page dumper method 
> which does not work properly.
> 
> Regards,
> Murat

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Re: [Zim-wiki] can't get windows version to start

[Brendan Kidwell]

Look in the folder "%TEMP%" for a file "zim.log" and see if it says
anything interesting.

Next, try running this:
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Zim Desktop Wiki\zim.exe" --standalone
--debug
(Fix the path to zim.exe if it is not correct.)

Whether that opens a window or not, again go look at "%TEMP%\zim.log"
and there should be more information in there.

On Tue, Apr 25, 2017, at 15:47, Svenn Are Bjerkem wrote:
> Hi,
> I have downloaded and installed in turn both the desktop version and
> the portable version of zim, but all I get is the splash screen and
> then nothing.
> 
> http://www.glump.net/software/zim-windows the 0.65 version
> 
> I tried some command line options but they are ignored. any idea what
> blocks the sw from starting?
> 
> win8.1 64 and win10 64
> 
> or is there a better way to get a working zim on windows-64?
> -- 
> Svenn
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Re: [Zim-wiki] ONCE MORE: Windows 7 Professional, 64 Bit: Copy via [Ctrl+c] from Zim not reliable

[Brendan Kidwell]

Sorry, I'm not creating a ticket for this. I'm confused by the guidance
about whether to use Github Issue Tracker for new tickets or to use
Launchpad. And I don't see an open ticket for this issue.

On Mon, Apr 24, 2017, at 18:35, Brendan Kidwell wrote:
> I see from my debug log file ...
> 
> DEBUG: Action: copy
> DEBUG: Clipboard requests data as 'UTF8_STRING', we have a parsetree
> DEBUG: Clipboard requested text, we provide 'plain'
> DEBUG: Clipboard requests data as 'text/x-zim-parsetree', we have a
> parsetree> DEBUG: Clipboard requests data as 'text/html', we have a parsetree
> DEBUG: Clipboard requests data as 'HTML Format', we have a parsetree
> 
> we are getting to here
> https://github.com/jaap-karssenberg/zim-desktop-wiki/blob/master/zim/gui/clipboard.py#L416
> , each time I type CTRL-C, and apparently sometimes putting null or an
> empty string into the selectiondata.set_text() method, because Free
> Clipboard Viewer 3.0 shows NO "Text" fragment on the clipboard
> sometimes.> 
> If I watch Free Clipboard Viewer 3.0, it seems I get a random
> selection of various fragment types present and not present, each time
> I copy to the clipbpard.> 
> I'm putting this into the ticket in Launchpad.
> 

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Re: [Zim-wiki] plans for python3? Github?

[Brendan Kidwell]

Added my 'me too' to the Launchpad ticket about migrating to Git format
-- in the 'persons affected' field. My personal reasons probably match
something someone else already said.


On Mon, Mar 20, 2017, at 17:30, Dimitrij Lisov wrote:

> There's already a similar request regarding moving to GitHub:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/zim/+bug/1639439

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Re: [Zim-wiki] Bug with inline arithmetic feature?

[Brendan Kidwell]

Smilie,

Can you try your calculation with "." instead of "," as the fraction
separator in your arithmetic expression?

If it works when you change the expression, then perhaps 1) your desktop
is configured wrong for that localization parameter or 2) Zim is failing
to use your preference.

Brendan Kidwell

On Tue, Sep 27, 2016, at 06:23, Smilie wrote:
> Ich habe folgendes mit F5 berechnet:
> 1,17*1023/3,3=3,627
> 
> Das Resultat:
> [crash report]

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Re: [Zim-wiki] Lets build a zim android app together!

[Brendan Kidwell]

This looks like a good project plan. I hope other people join.

I don't have the energy to work on an effort like this, but I have one
suggestion of something to look into:

It looks like you'll be building a system that loads Zim wiki text into
an editable view built with HTML and JavaScript. You might want to check
out the CKGEdit plugin for DokuWiki. It's an adaptation of CKEditor
(HTML rich text editing widget) to work on DokuWiki page source code.

https://www.dokuwiki.org/plugin:ckgedit

I believe CKGEdit has a (mostly) 1-to-1 mapping of DokuWiki to
editable HTML and back. In practice I couldn't get it to work without
randomly inserting empty paragraphs after a table on my sandbox
DokuWiki page, but I'm sure the source code for CKGEdit is worth
looking into for ideas.

Brendan Kidwell


On Sun, Feb 7, 2016, at 15:13, Jaap Karssenberg wrote:
> The idea is to build on top of the python code base and use HTML for
> the interface. To make it a directed effort, I have started to draft a
> project plan with simple milestones here:
>
> https://github.com/jaap-karssenberg/zim-android-mockapp/wiki
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Links and markup in table doesn't work

[Brendan Kidwell]

Unfortunately for you, I think this is working as designed. Zim's
current table implementation is designed as a 2D array of PLAIN-TEXT
cells. The data is fed into a GTK table-rendering widget that doesn't
know anything about wiki syntax. For now you'll just have to do your
best with plain text.

There are some alternative table suggestions in the wiki[1]. Not sure if
it's in there, but you might also consider storing your table with
complex formatting, in a spreadsheet file (Gnumeric, LibreOffice Calc,
etc.) and ATTACH it to a Zim page.


On Thu, Jan 21, 2016, at 12:23, Mukli Krisztián wrote:
> I'm very happy when I read in Zim Help, that links and common format
> markup works in table cells in the new Table Editor plugin.
> Unfortunately this day I realised it doesn't work definitely. Links
> displaying as links, but if I used right-click on the selected line,
> Open cell in content link doesn't do anything. (Picture-1)


> If I write something after a link in cell, the content doesn't
> show. Picture-2 shows what is the content of the cell with link
> from Picture-1.


> How can I fix it? There any idea what happens?


> Windows 10 x64, Zim 0.65. Thanks for any comment!





Links:

  1. https://github.com/jaap-karssenberg/zim-wiki/wiki
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Links and markup in table doesn't work

[Brendan Kidwell]

If you associate .txt files with Zim, in Windows Explorer, then you can
make hyperlinks in your spreadsheet attachments which open Zim pages.

On Thu, Jan 21, 2016, at 14:14, Brendan Kidwell wrote:
> Unfortunately for you, I think this is working as designed. Zim's
> current table implementation is designed as a 2D array of PLAIN-TEXT
> cells. The data is fed into a GTK table-rendering widget that doesn't
> know anything about wiki syntax. For now you'll just have to do your
> best with plain text.
>
> There are some alternative table suggestions in the wiki[1]. Not sure
> if it's in there, but you might also consider storing your table with
> complex formatting, in a spreadsheet file (Gnumeric, LibreOffice Calc,
> etc.) and ATTACH it to a Zim page.
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016, at 12:23, Mukli Krisztián wrote:
>> I'm very happy when I read in Zim Help, that links and common format
>> markup works in table cells in the new Table Editor plugin.
>> Unfortunately this day I realised it doesn't work definitely. Links
>> displaying as links, but if I used right-click on the selected line,
>> Open cell in content link doesn't do anything. (Picture-1)


>> If I write something after a link in cell, the content doesn't
>> show. Picture-2 shows what is the content of the cell with link
>> from Picture-1.


>> How can I fix it? There any idea what happens?


>> Windows 10 x64, Zim 0.65. Thanks for any comment!


>



Links:

  1. https://github.com/jaap-karssenberg/zim-wiki/wiki
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Re: [Zim-wiki] helping out with Windows builds

[Brendan Kidwell]

As Jaap said in an earlier message on this thread, I would gladly
welcome help if you can provide it.

Are you still interested, René? Have you done any work like this before?
Either way, you might possibly come up with a very different process
from me. I'd be happy to walk you through how my process works, and you
can decide if you have any interest in helping out with the build
process, taking ownership of it, and/or hosting the build.

Reply publicly if you aren't interested anymore. Or, reply PRIVATELY and
let me know when you can meet on IRC (or via other means) in the next
few weeks for an hour or two to discuss this further.

I'm very sorry it took so long for me to reply to this. (FYI, I just
released the 0.65 build for Windows.)

Brendan

On Wed, Dec 16, 2015, at 08:35, dehesse...@web.de wrote:
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I’ve joined this list after reading Brendan’s message in regards to the
> official 
> Windows 0.65 build. I successfully built Zim for myself, creating my own
> (revised)
> version of the build instructions along the way.
> I’d like to offer my help but I’m not sure what I’m getting myself into/
> what the general expectations are (although I’m a developer myself and
> not afraid
> to do some digging, I don’t speak Python). 
> What I’ve seen so far looks well ordered and rather low-maintenance right
> now, that’s pretty encouraging for starters. So I could see myself
> providing 
> Windows binary builds (along with hosting them/traffic) for everybody to
> use.
> (I can show you what I've done so far - am I allowed to post links?)
> 
> Let me know what you think.
> 
> René

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[Zim-wiki] Where is Zim 0.65 for Windows? It'll be a few more weeks probably.

[Brendan Kidwell]

I just added this note to the Zim for Windows download page:

> The upstream source package’s next release, 0.65, was released on 2 November 
> 2015. Several things have gotten in my way and I have not had time to do the 
> Windows build of this new release yet. I will probably get it done by the end 
> of December. To be notified of the new Windows release, to inquire about its 
> status, or to inquire about helping out with or taking over the public 
> Windows release, please Join the mailing list.

Brendan Kidwell

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Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim 0.64 released

[Brendan Kidwell]

Thanks for all your hard work Jaap and other major contributors.

All: I'll work on doing the Windows build some time in the next couple
of weeks. I'm particularly interested in seeing if I can get
gtkspellchek to work with the whole packaging stack but it might take a
few days. (Or it might be dead simple.)

Feel free to bug me if two weeks have gone by and I haven't done the
Windows release yet. (I'll do 0.65 with the needed bug fix mentioned in
a separate thread and skip 0.64.)

Brendan Kidwell

On Wed, Oct 28, 2015, at 03:36, Jaap Karssenberg wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> Yesterday evening I uploaded a new release of zim. Most important
> changes you find in the changelog below. This release particularly
> contains a lot of bug fixes by other contributors out there - thanks
> for all the help! Unfortunately quite a few fixes did not make it.
> Will plan for a new release early 2016.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jaap
>
> === .64 - Tue 27 Oct 2015 ===
* Bookmark plugin - by Pavel M
* Updated spell plugin to allow using gtkspellcheck as backend
* Updated attachmentbrowser plugin with new thumbnailing logic
* Speed up of sqlite indexing
* Updated support for OS X - by Brecht Machiels
* Bug fixes for the Fossil version control support
* Bug fixes for locale in strftime and strxfrm functions
* Bug fix to avoid overwriting the accelmap config file
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim presentation

[Brendan Kidwell]

If anyone adapts my 2013 presentation notes to become part of the Zim web site:

You will note that I licensed it under the GNU GFDL. Take that to mean
whatever it means, but right here I'm giving explicit permission for
whoever works on the Zim web site to take parts of my text and do
whatever you want with it and eventually assign copyright to the Zim
project if it's substantially rewritten. If there's anything of me left
in it just say I contributed.

I just want to make sure copyright doesn't get in the way here.

On Fri, Sep 25, 2015, at 07:12, Jaap Karssenberg wrote:
> Hi Brendan, all, Thanks, will create a new page with materials, might
> also be a good place to link to screencasts as well.
>
> In general I'm thinking it might not be a bad idea to try and update
> the manual with an "user guide" chapter. I feel Brendan's text is a
> good start.
>
> Also would want the website organized to go to such a guide quickly.
> Does anyone have experience with these "roll down" format pages that I
> see nowadays on many long-read pages ? Regards, Jaap
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Brendan Kidwell
> <bren...@glump.net> wrote:
>> Thanks for sharing, Jaap.
>>
>>
I think I mentioned this when I did a presentation a couple of years
>>
ago, but I didn't make a point of saying "you should add it to the Zim
>>
web site", but I'm saying that now.
>>
>> http://www.glump.net/howto/desktop/getting-work-done-in-zim
>>
>On 11 December 2013 I gave a talk about how to take notes and organize
>your thoughts in Zim Desktop Wiki, at the LibrePlanet Boston Desktop
>GNU/Linux Users Group.
>>
>>
Here are my presentation notes:
>> http://www.glump.net/content/getting-work-done-in-zim/getting-work-done-in-zim.html
>>
>>
I think the video I mentioned may be lost by now. It wasn't very good
>>
compared to my notes.
>>
>>
If you want to link to this topic from zim-wiki.org, I'm not sure which
>>
URL is best to use -- make your own judgment.
>>
>>
>>
On Mon, Sep 21, 2015, at 14:12, Jaap Karssenberg wrote:
>>
> Dear all,
>>
> Last weekend I held a presentation about zim at the NLLGG (the dutch
> Linux user group). Apart from socializing in real life, I also used
> the opportunity to formalize some of my thoughts about zim. For those
> interested I put a copy of the slides in Dutch and English here:
> http://zim-wiki.org/presentations/
>>
> Regards,
>>
> Jaap
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim presentation

[Brendan Kidwell]

And if it's not readable and navigable with javascript and CSS, you have
failed.

On Fri, Sep 25, 2015, at 14:11, Mike Morris wrote:
> To summarize, for me "content is king", which I think is objectively 
> defensible. As for the long running or not, I prefer not, but that's 
> clearly just a personal preference.

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Re: [Zim-wiki] Source View plugin locks up page view frame on Linux Mint 17.1 XFCE

[Brendan Kidwell]

I can try it this weekend and report whether it makes a difference.
Thanks for working on it.

Brendan

On Thu, Sep 24, 2015, at 14:01, Jaap Karssenberg wrote:
> Hi Brendan, More people see this issue. It is tracked in
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/zim/+bug/1460386 .
>
> Unfortunately I do not see the issue myself. I implemented a potential
> fix in rev774, but not sure if it helps or not.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jaap
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 4:08 AM,  <sn...@glump.net> wrote:
>> Source View plugin isn't working for me. I'm using Linux Mint
>> 17.1 XFCE
>>
with Zim 0.63.
>>
>>
To reproduce the problem I enabled the Source View plugin and created an
>>
empty notebook in ~/Temp/zim-test . I placed this on the home page (not
>>
indented):
>>
>>
{{{code: lang="c" linenumbers="True"
>>
/* This is a C code block */
>>
}}}
>>
>>
Navigating to a new page and back or Edit -> Reload just crashes the
>>
page view so that I can't move the cursor and edit the page, and it
>>
looks like this:
>>
>> http://i.imgur.com/N7HoHV2.png
>>
>>
When I start Zim with '--debug', I get this:
>>
>>
zim --standalone --debug `readlink -f notebook.zim` 2>~/Temp/zim.log
>>
result: http://dpaste.com/1GJPEXP
>>
>>
I'm not sure if this is relevant, but one of the lines in the log file
>>
is
>>
>>
DEBUG: Insert object(>
(zim+gui+pageview+TextBuffer at 0x14bbe70)>, >
0x7f01aeb7fe40>)
>>
/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.7/zim/gui/widgets.py:188: GtkWarning:
>>
gtk_scrolled_window_add(): cannot add non scrollable widget use
>>
gtk_scrolled_window_add_with_viewport() instead window.add(widget)
>>
>>
Have I found a bug, or is there something I can do to fix this?
>>
>>
The example above is the simplest procedure for me to reproduce the
>>
problem. In fact it happens just the same in a full notebook if I paste
>>
in something non-trivial in a "Code Block" using the Source View plugin.
>>
>>
I can't reproduce this problem in Windows.
>>
>>
Brendan Kidwell
>>
>>
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim presentation

[Brendan Kidwell]

Thanks for sharing, Jaap.

I think I mentioned this when I did a presentation a couple of years
ago, but I didn't make a point of saying "you should add it to the Zim
web site", but I'm saying that now.

http://www.glump.net/howto/desktop/getting-work-done-in-zim
> On 11 December 2013 I gave a talk about how to take notes and organize your 
>thoughts in Zim Desktop Wiki, at the LibrePlanet Boston Desktop GNU/Linux 
>Users Group.

Here are my presentation notes:
http://www.glump.net/content/getting-work-done-in-zim/getting-work-done-in-zim.html

I think the video I mentioned may be lost by now. It wasn't very good
compared to my notes.

If you want to link to this topic from zim-wiki.org, I'm not sure which
URL is best to use -- make your own judgment.


On Mon, Sep 21, 2015, at 14:12, Jaap Karssenberg wrote:
> Dear all,
> Last weekend I held a presentation about zim at the NLLGG (the dutch Linux 
> user group). Apart from socializing in real life, I also used the opportunity 
> to formalize some of my thoughts about zim. For those interested I put a copy 
> of the slides in Dutch and English here: http://zim-wiki.org/presentations/
> Regards,
> Jaap
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim 0.63 for Windows released

[Brendan Kidwell]

I forgot to mention: the Source View / Insert Code Block plugin should
work now. It was added in 0.61 or 0.62 but my Windows builds were
missing a library.

The new Table plugin works. And presumably the Fossil SCM plugin works
too.

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015, at 02:33, Brendan Kidwell wrote:
 Zim for Windows home: http://www.glump.net/software/zim-windows
 
 -- Desktop Installer --
 http://www.glump.net/files/release/zim-windows/Zim-setup-0.63_2015-07-06.exe
 
 -- Portable Installer --
 http://www.glump.net/files/release/zim-windows/ZimDesktopWikiPortable_0.63.paf.exe
 
 -- Verify --
 http://www.glump.net/files/release/zim-windows/Zim-setup-0.63_2015-07-06.exe.md5
 http://www.glump.net/files/release/zim-windows/Zim-setup-0.63_2015-07-06.exe.sig
 http://www.glump.net/files/release/zim-windows/ZimDesktopWikiPortable_0.63.paf.exe.md5
 http://www.glump.net/files/release/zim-windows/ZimDesktopWikiPortable_0.63.paf.exe.sig
 GPG key ID: C6EEFFD785B2801B
 
 
 Built from rev 766 (release 0.63) on a bare Windows 8.1 64-bit virtual
 machine, targeting 32-bit or 64-bit Windows. Tested on Windows 7 64-bit.
 
 Note: I have decided that gtkspell won't be supported on the Windows
 version ever. I can't find a gtkspell package for Python 2.7 for
 Windows, and I can't find any instructions for building it. Its
 successor seems to be gtkspellchecker, which we might be able to port
 the Zim spelling plugin over to before the next release. gtkspellchecker
 is easy to install from PyPI.
 
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Windows 8.1 and screen of choice

[Brendan Kidwell]

Navigate to where the notebook files are stored. Make a shortcut (in
your Start Menu, on your Taskbar, wherever) to the 'notebook.zim' file
for that notebook.

Hope that helps.

On Wed, Jun 10, 2015, at 16:08, Didier Bretin wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I have several notebooks on my laptop and I would like to be able to 
 choose the notebook I want to open when I click on the Zim icon on the 
 taskbar of Windows 8.1.
 
 Do you if it's possible to have such choice on the taskbar ?
 
 Regards.
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Windows 8.1 and screen of choice

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Sounds like the taskbar really isn't very user-friendly!

Try this:

1. Create a batch file in the Notebook's folder called [name of
notebook].cmd.
2. In the batch file just put one command: start notebook.zim.
3. Make a shortcut to [name of notebook].cmd on your taskbar.

You'll get one or two popup command prompt windows which will close on
their own, but this solution might work.

Oh oh ... you said the Choose Notebook screen. Sorry I misread. That's
simple:

1. Set the default notebook to NONE. Whenever you launch Zim it will ask
what notebook you want to use.
-or-
2. Set the shortcut to execute
C:\Program Files (x86)\Zim Desktop Wiki\zim.exe --list
  reference: http://zim-wiki.org/manual/Help/Commandline_Options.html

Or use the Zim system tray icon to launch notbooks, as hansbkk suggests.

On Wed, Jun 10, 2015, at 16:43, Didier Bretin wrote:
 I tested your solution, but all the notebook.zim files are called « 
 notebook »
 on the taskbar. And I can't change the name of the file :(.
 
 There is no way to launch Zim on the choice screen under Windows ?

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Re: [Zim-wiki] Port to Qt

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On Fri, Mar 20, 2015, at 04:07, Jaap Karssenberg wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 12:44 AM, Matt Bromberg
 mattc...@earthlink.net wrote:


Just how hard would such a project be?

 As hard as writing the user interface from scratch. Porting gtk2 to
 gtk3 needs some repairs, but is mostly re-use of the same API. Going
 to a different toolkit means re-writing all the code that we have.

 For mobile versions I have more faith in HTML5 based solutions. So on
 my side I will not invest time in other toolkits.

I don't know much about IOS development, but as I understand it, I think
you'd have to rewrite the whole storage layer of Zim too. You don't just
put arbitrary file trees on an IOS device and then use an editor to edit
the files. The only way Zim could work on IOS would be to implement file
embedded in an SQLite database locally, or read and write DIRECTLY from
a service like Dropbox.

It's not just a matter of tweaking the UI to make it small-screen
friendly, even if you have a GUI toolkit that supports the target.

Brendan Kidwell

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Re: [Zim-wiki] Windows 7 Professional, 64 Bit: Copy via [Ctrl+c] from Zim not reliable

[Brendan Kidwell]

I have probably seen this. I THINK it's related to a long-standing issue
with GTK 2 for Windows; some combinations of your favorite GTK 2 app
(for example Zim) and other software together will just lock up your
clipboard.

The only workaround I know right now is to restart Zim and/or the other
software (often VirtualBox control panel), if you have the same problem
I have.

Jaap mentioned in another thread that this year (2015) we will probably
port Zim to GTK 3 and abandon GTK 2; hopefully that will resolve issues
like this.

Brendan Kidwell


On Sat, Feb 21, 2015, at 22:05, Udo Weik wrote:
 I have severe problems with copying content from a Zim page (via
 [Ctrl+c]) to another app.
 Sometimes it works, sometimes not. Any hints?

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Re: [Zim-wiki] Migration to github

[Brendan Kidwell]

This is sort of a non-voting comment: I have over 10 years of experience
as a professional software developer. Over the years I've used
Subversion, Bazaar, Mercurial, Git, and Fossil.

Bazaar was my first DVCS (probably with the Zim project), but after
learning Mercurial and Git later on and spending little time with Bazaar
for many years, I find myself confused every time I have to deal with
it. My experience for all tools is mostly based on the free-software
GUIs available, including Bazaar Explorer and TortoiseHg, although I do
feel particularly comfortable using the CLI only for Git. I can't give
you a point by point comparison, but Bazaar just feels weird at this
point, and honestly it might be an impediment to me making anything more
than casual patch contributions to any other Bazaar-based project.

A major reason I barely touched Bazaar for years is that Launchpad --
its flagship hosting service -- was unreasonably slow compared to any
alternative available at the time; transactions would take a long time
to execute synchronously, and (in a separate process/thread) sometimes
new pushes would take 10 minutes to appear in the web interface.
Launchpad is vastly improved today, but it may have discouraged other
users for a long time as Mercurial and especially Git were gaining
mind-share.

In the case of Zim, I'm already committed as the Windows installer
maintainer, and I'll deal with Bazaar when I have to, but that's my
experience: Bazaar itself may deter me from joining another
Bazaar-hosted project I might find myself interested in.

(Side note: Fossil is a very interesting project in that its executable
is a single tiny monolithic binary on all supported platforms, with a
built-in web server, and it treats wiki pages and issues as versioned
assets. Sadly, its author refuses to build in support for rename
detection, and that's a deal-breaker.)

Brendan Kidwell


On Mon, Nov 3, 2014, at 05:55, Jaap Karssenberg wrote:
 Versalis,

 Not sure if migration will help much. I like the set of features
 offered by launchpad, only thing that is missing is a community wiki,
 so that is why I put that on gtihub. If there are potential
 contributors who see bazaar as an obstacle to getting involved I don't
 mind putting a branch on github as well, but for me bazaar works fine,
 so won't migrate the main branch for now.

 Regards,

 Jaap


 On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Versalis Meisteralis
 versalismeistera...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Zim wiki community,

 I am following the zim project now for half a year and thought about
 contributing to this great wiki program.

 So I realized that you still host the whole source code in bazaar and
 the only main contributor there is Jaap Karssenberg.

 From what I saw the zim-wiki documentation is already published and
 edited on github.

 https://github.com/jaap-karssenberg/zim-wiki/

 I am not saying that by migrating to github, the zim project will
 receive more attention, I am just interested whether there already
 has been a discussion about a migration?

 Best,

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Re: [Zim-wiki] new zim user : hello ant a little question

[Brendan Kidwell]

Eric,

Zim supports a minimal set of rich text formatting rules including
emphasis, strong emphasis, highlight, hyperlinks, ordered and unordered
lists, headings, blockquotes, and inline images. But it does not support
many other rules typically found in word processors such as tables,
typeface and font size choices, color, line height, custom margins and
indentation, or center, right, and justified alignment.

These restrictions may help to keep you focusing on the message instead
of fiddling with styles, and it keeps the software simpler. (We may get
tables some day though; there's been a lot of talk about it.)

Brendan Kidwell

On Thu, Oct 23, 2014, at 05:53, ericgarcia-fr wrote:
 I just found out Zim ( and notes softwares).
 
 I have a littlequestion : How do I align text to left, center, right ...?
 
 It should be obvious but I have not found how.
 
 P.S. sorry for this very basic issue !!!

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Re: [Zim-wiki] How to install gtksourceview2 on Windows

[Brendan Kidwell]

I'll keep this in mind next time I get a chance to work on it.

My name is Brendan.

On Thu, Oct 23, 2014, at 14:03, Erwin W wrote:
 Hi Brendan,

 In the meantime I found a workaround to get the Source View plugin up
 and running on Windows. I've updated the Wiki page with installation
 instructions:

 https://github.com/jaap-karssenberg/zim-wiki/wiki/Install-gtksourceview2-on-Windows-and-Linux-for-Source-View-plugin

 Brandon, is it possible to add the gtksourceview2 to the
 Windows setup?

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[Zim-wiki] Zim 0.62 for Windows released again

[Brendan Kidwell]

I did a new build of Zim for Windows and posted it here:
[1]http://www.glump.net/software/zim-windows



This fixes the crash of the Preferences dialog box.



I worked from rev. 739 today. I don't want to mix up releases
with different code going into the Windows build and the
official source tarball, unless necessary for these two fixes
(rev 739 and what I'm about to describe).



When I ran setup.py it said Missed line for plugin list
because it wasn't finding \t\tplugins = set() because that
line of code had already been modified by a previous run of
setup.py.



I suggest patching it to look for

\t\tplugins = set(

instead. [2]https://bugs.launchpad.net/zim/+bug/1380907



Brendan Kidwell



On Fri, Oct 10, 2014, at 15:37, Jaap Karssenberg wrote:

Hi Brendan,

I made some changes in revisions 739 that should fix this. Made
it such that setup.py takes care of it when you run setup.py
build. Assume this is also triggered by py2exe, but haven't
tested that.

If you find time to test and build a new compiler you can use
revision 741.

Thanks,

Jaap

References

1. http://www.glump.net/software/zim-windows
2. https://bugs.launchpad.net/zim/+bug/1380907
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Windows Spell Check

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I'll keep you in mind when the time comes, Stephen. Thanks.



On Tue, Oct 14, 2014, at 16:14, Stephen Faulkenberry wrote:

If I can be of help to you (Brendan) for Windows testing, let
me know. (if this message was repeated, I'm sorry. Getting used
to how these mailing lists work.) -Stephen (sjforion)
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim 0.62 for Windows released

[Brendan Kidwell]

It's going to take me some time to wrap my head around all
those names and strings and figure out where these paths are
supposed to be, and whether #2 is possible. I've got no more
time to think about this until at least the weekend, if not
next week.



All my code is up-to-date in the main repository (no changes in
the past week; no pending pull requests). If someone wants to
jump in and produce the simplest fix before I can, they're
welcome to do so.



Brendan



On Wed, Oct 8, 2014, at 04:11, Jaap Karssenberg wrote:

Brendan,

One step back; of course the default shipped plugins are in the
python library path. They are installed as part of the program,
and the user will not easily remove them. The XDG_DATA folders
are used for extra user installed plugins that do not ship with
the default install.

XDG_DATA contains the user data folder but also the system data
folders. Yes it is reasonable for the user to mess around with
the user data folder, but we should be able to use the system
data folder for files included in the installer. This is the
same data folder is used by the installer for the manual,
templates  images. So I think there is no harm in using it for
plugins as well.

Problem is that for the executable the default plugins are
compiled into the executable, so we can no longer scan the
files to get an index of them.

Previously the work around has been to ship a copy of the
plugins outside of the executable. This work around now broke.

Two ways to fix that:
1. Fix the work around by putting the files in the right folder
2. Fix the issue by somehow making sure we can list the plugin
files even when compiled into an executable

Fix in #1 is real easy, just move the files you install now to
zim/plugins to data/zim/plugins.

Most simple version of #2 would be to patch the
PluginManager.list_installed_plugins() function with a hard
coded list when compiling to executable.

Would that work for you?

Regards,

Jaap
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim 0.62 for Windows released

[Brendan Kidwell]

IMO this is a failure in the executable, not in the packaging.



What if the user deletes $XDG_data/zim? This is a perfectly
reasonable thing for a user to do if they want a reset. What
happens right now if I do that on a Unix platform?



It is incorrect to require user data folders under ~ be created
during installation. The main executable or the main
executable's launcher must create the folder. In the Windows
build, the Portable Install has a launcher but not the Desktop
Install.



Therefore, we need to change the main executable to either
tolerate the missing folder, or to create it before it reads
it.



Otherwise I will have to make a tiny launcher script for the
Desktop Install using NSIS, which creates any required
resources for $USER and then passes control to the main
executable.



Brendan

On Tue, Oct 7, 2014, at 10:33, Jaap Karssenberg wrote:

I believe this is due to the search path for plugins has
changed. IIRC the windows build has to supply the .py files of
the plugins in order to make zim find them. These should now be
in XDG_DATA/zim/plugins rather than the python path.

Let me know if this is a problem for packaging, could add a
rule for finding them relative to the executable.

The explanation for the error is that when the dialog is shown,
we load the description of the first plugin. Here the error
occurs, saying that it can not find the first description. This
means the entire plugin list is empty.

Regards,

Jaap



On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 1:34 AM, Brendan Kidwell
[1]sn...@glump.net wrote:

I've updated the release page to reflect the fact that it
doesn't work.

It doesn't work for me on my build VM either; I didn't test
everything

before I published it.



Jaap: have requirements changed?



It will be a few days before I can look into this.


On Mon, Oct 6, 2014, at 05:35, Marco Cevoli wrote:
 Same here on Win 8.1:

 This is zim 0.62
 Platform: nt
 Locale: it_IT cp1252
 FS encoding: mbcs
 Python: (2, 7, 8, 'final', 0)
 Gtk: (2, 24, 10)
 Pygtk: (2, 24, 0)
 Zim revision is:
   branch: zim
   revision: 738
   jaap.karssenb...@gmail.com-20140930191715-hpl66psh7yudcskr
   date: 2014-09-30 21:17:15 +0200

 === Traceback ===
   File zim\gui\__init__.pyo, line 911, in _action_handler
   File zim\gui\__init__.pyo, line 1793, in show_preferences
   File zim\gui\preferencesdialog.pyo, line 76, in __init__
   File zim\gui\preferencesdialog.pyo, line 217, in __init__
   File zim\gui\preferencesdialog.pyo, line 227, in
do_row_activated
 IndexError: could not find tree path

References

1. mailto:sn...@glump.net
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim 0.62 for Windows released

[Brendan Kidwell]

I've updated the release page to reflect the fact that it doesn't work.
It doesn't work for me on my build VM either; I didn't test everything
before I published it.

Jaap: have requirements changed?

It will be a few days before I can look into this.

On Mon, Oct 6, 2014, at 05:35, Marco Cevoli wrote:
 Same here on Win 8.1:
 
 This is zim 0.62
 Platform: nt
 Locale: it_IT cp1252
 FS encoding: mbcs
 Python: (2, 7, 8, 'final', 0)
 Gtk: (2, 24, 10)
 Pygtk: (2, 24, 0)
 Zim revision is:
   branch: zim
   revision: 738
   jaap.karssenb...@gmail.com-20140930191715-hpl66psh7yudcskr
   date: 2014-09-30 21:17:15 +0200
 
 === Traceback ===
   File zim\gui\__init__.pyo, line 911, in _action_handler
   File zim\gui\__init__.pyo, line 1793, in show_preferences
   File zim\gui\preferencesdialog.pyo, line 76, in __init__
   File zim\gui\preferencesdialog.pyo, line 217, in __init__
   File zim\gui\preferencesdialog.pyo, line 227, in do_row_activated
 IndexError: could not find tree path

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[Zim-wiki] Zim 0.62 for Windows released

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Zim for Windows home: http://www.glump.net/software/zim-windows

-- Desktop Installer --
http://www.glump.net/files/release/zim-windows/Zim-setup-0.62_2014-10-05.exe

-- Portable Installer --
http://www.glump.net/files/release/zim-windows/ZimDesktopWikiPortable_0.62.paf.exe

-- Verify --
http://www.glump.net/files/release/zim-windows/Zim-setup-0.62_2014-10-05.exe.md5
http://www.glump.net/files/release/zim-windows/Zim-setup-0.62_2014-10-05.exe.sig
http://www.glump.net/files/release/zim-windows/ZimDesktopWikiPortable_0.62.paf.exe.md5
http://www.glump.net/files/release/zim-windows/ZimDesktopWikiPortable_0.62.paf.exe.sig


Built from rev 738 (release 0.62) on a bare Windows 7 64-bit virtual
machine, targeting 32-bit or 64-bit Windows.

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Re: [Zim-wiki] Shrink images

[Brendan Kidwell]

(This is Brendan Kidwell sn...@glump.net writing. My mail app confused
me with the header options when replying.)

On Wed, Aug 20, 2014, at 15:17, sn...@glump.net wrote:
 If you right-click on the image and select Properties, you can change
 the rendering size...

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Re: [Zim-wiki] EightFiveZero Template Updated

[Brendan Kidwell]

Nice work! Thanks for sharing. I've added it to the Zim Wiki 
https://github.com/jaap-karssenberg/zim-wiki/wiki/Build-a-Responsive-Web-Site
.


On Mon, Aug 11, 2014, at 11:01, John Marks wrote:
 Hey folks, I've taken a preliminary stab at updating my EightFiveZero
 template (a modified version of ZeroFiveEight, designed to work on all
 devices) for Zim 6.1.
 
 jrm4
 
 
 https://github.com/jrm4/Eight-Five-Zero
 
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim 0.61 for Windows released

[Brendan Kidwell]

If there's a lot of demand for it, I can try producing a build
with Windows XP, but I don't think it's good to encourage
Windows XP use with new builds of third-party software when
Microsoft has abandoned support for it.



I strongly recommend Windows XP users upgrade to Ubuntu, Linux
Mint, or Trisquel GNU/Linux.





On Thu, Aug 7, 2014, at 07:43, Hilmar von Fintel wrote:

Just to confirm that Zim 0.61 no longer runs under Win XP on my
computer. (Brendan had previously stated he would no longer
compile for Win XP.)



Hilmar





On 06/08/14 00:05, Brendan Kidwell wrote:

Zim for Windows home: [1]http://www.glump.net/software/zim-windows

-- Desktop Installer --
[2]http://www.glump.net/files/release/zim-windows/Zim-setup-0.61_2014-08
-05.exe

-- Portable Installer --
[3]http://www.glump.net/files/release/zim-windows/ZimDesktopWikiPortable
_0.61.paf.exe

-- Verify --
[4]http://www.glump.net/files/release/zim-windows/Zim-setup-0.61_2014-08
-05.exe.md5 [5]http://www.glump.net/files/release/zim-windows/Zim-setup-
0.61_2014-08-05.exe.sig [6]http://www.glump.net/files/release/zim-window
s/ZimDesktopWikiPortable_0.61.paf.exe.md5 [7]http://www.glump.net/files/
release/zim-windows/ZimDesktopWikiPortable_0.61.paf.exe.sig


Built from rev 692 (release 0.61) on a bare Windows 7 64-bit virtual
machine, targeting 32-bit or 64-bit Windows.

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5. 
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6. 
http://www.glump.net/files/release/zim-windows/ZimDesktopWikiPortable_0.61.paf.exe.md5
7. 
http://www.glump.net/files/release/zim-windows/ZimDesktopWikiPortable_0.61.paf.exe.sig
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[Zim-wiki] Zim 0.61 for Windows released

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Zim for Windows home: http://www.glump.net/software/zim-windows

-- Desktop Installer --
http://www.glump.net/files/release/zim-windows/Zim-setup-0.61_2014-08-05.exe

-- Portable Installer --
http://www.glump.net/files/release/zim-windows/ZimDesktopWikiPortable_0.61.paf.exe

-- Verify --
http://www.glump.net/files/release/zim-windows/Zim-setup-0.61_2014-08-05.exe.md5
http://www.glump.net/files/release/zim-windows/Zim-setup-0.61_2014-08-05.exe.sig
http://www.glump.net/files/release/zim-windows/ZimDesktopWikiPortable_0.61.paf.exe.md5
http://www.glump.net/files/release/zim-windows/ZimDesktopWikiPortable_0.61.paf.exe.sig


Built from rev 692 (release 0.61) on a bare Windows 7 64-bit virtual
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Searchable html export, any activities?

[Brendan Kidwell]

I have never tried anything like this, but it may be possible to achieve
this without a lot of programming. Zim offers export to
ReStructuredText format, which is supported by the Sphinx toolchain. 
http://sphinx-doc.org/ 

I'm pretty sure that Sphinx has built-in support to create HTML +
JavaScript output with an in-browser searching tool for your book,
included in the output package.

On Wed, May 21, 2014, at 22:19, WEHLER Andreas wrote:
 Hi.
 
 We consider to extend our usage of ZIM to build a ZIM based FAQ,
 which is distributed as html export (read only for readers).
 
 Some of the important requirements is a search function for html
 exported zim pages.
 
 Should this go into a bug (Wish List)? I didn't some equivalent bug
 until now.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Andreas

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Re: [Zim-wiki] way slow on Ubuntu

[Brendan Kidwell]

PLEASE DISREGARD MY PREVIOUS MESSAGE. My mail client replied with the
wrong From address and it'll be rejected by the mailing list.

On Tue, Apr 15, 2014, at 15:22, hans...@gmail.com wrote:
 Zim .60 via PPA, both with and without the tray icon runnung
 
 12.04 LTS Unity, Python 2.7.3
 
 Clicking on another node, or even just putting focus on a page already
 selected, everything just hangs for 5-20 seconds at a time, the Zim
 window goes grey/blue, CPU pegs on python during that time?
 
 Thought I'd try the dev repo - noob-friendly instructions?
 
 Or maybe going to a newer Python?

Thank you for reaching out to the mailing list on this Hans. Can you try
starting Zim from a terminal with the command

   zim --debug

That will print chatty debug messages to the console that you can look
at and maybe share. It might help identify exactly what step in
navigation is getting hung up.

Also, is your home folder (your user profile folder) stored on local
storage, or NFS, or something more exotic?

Brendan Kidwell

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[Zim-wiki] Problem starting Zim with a Shared notebook

[Brendan Kidwell]

Hi all,

I've been having this problem for a while. Maybe since the Zim 0.60
release, maybe longer.

All my long-lasting notebooks have the Shared property set to True,
because I sync them via SparkleShare (formerly Dropbox) and I don't want
to sync the extra binary files Zim keeps for indexing.

In Windows, Zim creates these binary files in %TEMP%, while in Linux,
they are created in ~/cache/zim.

Problem 1) When I open/create a Shared notebook for which the cache
files don't exist, Zim opens a tiny window with the titlebar zim or
zim.exe (depending on platform). The window should be bigger and it's
supposed to have the notebook title in the titlebar. See screenshot:
http://i.imgur.com/FtEwVAx.png

Problem 2) Problem 1 occurs after EVERY desktop login in Windows,
because %TEMP% gets cleared by the system when I log out.

Am I doing something wrong, or is this a bug?

For now, my workaround (in Windows) is to launch Zim with this script
that reassigns %TEMP% to a private folder which is never cleared out
by the system:

 BEGIN zim-launcher.vbs
Dim Shell, Env, Args, Arg, ArgsStr

Set Shell = WScript.CreateObject(WScript.Shell)
Set Env = Shell.Environment(PROCESS)

Env(TEMP) = C:\Work\AppData\ZimCache
Env(TMP) = C:\Work\AppData\ZimCache

Set Args = WScript.Arguments

ArgsStr = C:\Program Files (x86)\Zim Desktop Wiki\zim.exe 
For Each Arg In Args
If InStr(Arg,  )  0 Then
ArgsStr = ArgsStrArg   
Else
ArgsStr = ArgsStr  Arg   
End If
Next

Shell.Run(Trim(ArgsStr))
 END


Brendan Kidwell

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Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim on-a-stick

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On Fri, Mar 28, 2014, at 21:44, Syv Ritch wrote:
 I see that the desktop version is 21mb and the portable 12mb. What's
 the difference?

One is packaged by NSIS alone (desktop) and the other by
PortableApps.com's installer builder which uses NSIS. I think it applies
some extra magical extract-at-runtime compression to executable code.

It's the same Zim and and the same source code.


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Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim on-a-stick

[Brendan Kidwell]

... and you should be to start each version of Zim and navigate to
Open a notebook wherever it may be stored.

On Fri, Mar 28, 2014, at 18:46, Brendan Kidwell wrote:
 Thanks for your question Syv.
 
 I think what you want to do is this:
 * Install the Portable version of Zim Desktop Wiki for Windows onto your
 thumbdrive, from here: http://www.glump.net/software/zim-windows
 * Also extract the source tree to another folder on your thumbdrive. It
 will run on most GNU/Linux machines without a lot of fiddling. Navigate
 to where 'zim.py' is and run it.
 
 Brendan Kidwell
 
 
 On Thu, Mar 27, 2014, at 7:50, Syv Ritch wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I use 0.60 (from 0.5) on xubuntu for the last couple of years. 
  
  Is there a way of installing zim on a stick (including the notebooks)
  and have zim run under Windows when I'm on the road?
  
  sknahT
  
  vyS
  
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim on-a-stick

[Brendan Kidwell]

Thanks for your question Syv.

I think what you want to do is this:
* Install the Portable version of Zim Desktop Wiki for Windows onto your
thumbdrive, from here: http://www.glump.net/software/zim-windows
* Also extract the source tree to another folder on your thumbdrive. It
will run on most GNU/Linux machines without a lot of fiddling. Navigate
to where 'zim.py' is and run it.

Brendan Kidwell


On Thu, Mar 27, 2014, at 7:50, Syv Ritch wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I use 0.60 (from 0.5) on xubuntu for the last couple of years. 
 
 Is there a way of installing zim on a stick (including the notebooks)
 and have zim run under Windows when I'm on the road?
 
 sknahT
 
 vyS
 
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Re: [Zim-wiki] uncheck all check box? SOLVED

[Brendan Kidwell]

Thanks for sharing! That's something I would try right away if I wanted to
do that action, but it might not be obvious to everyone.



On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Sylvain Viart launch...@ledragon.netwrote:

  Hi,

 Zim has a simply nice embedded check-box.
 Is there a way to uncheck all selected box (with also selected text)?

 [x] have a lot of fun
 [x] make some high score at video games
 [x] uncheck this list when tasks are completed

 …

 Just before sending I tested again with F12… And it worked. :-\
 Ok.

 I decided to post it anyway, as a tip.

 Regards,
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Multiple Locations

[Brendan Kidwell]

I have several hundred pages (in ~3 notebooks) of Zim data that was in
Dropbox for a long time. Two weeks ago I switch to a private ownCloud
instance of mine (hosted on prgmr.com).

My thoughts:

* Use the ownCloud desktop sync tool (free for desktop OSes; pay $1 I think
for Android and OS X clients -- of course there's no Zim front-end for
Android or OS X yet anyway, but see next note). The desktop sync tool uses
WebDav and also polls the back-end every 30 seconds to ask if there are
upstream changes. In practice it works about as well as Dropbox and Google
Drive. TRANSPARENT to any desktop apps that just want a pile of files.

* You can edit Zim pages using ownCloud's built-in text editor in the
desktop web front-end, and in the Android or OS X clients -- great for
devices where Zim is not installed.

* Be sure to a) tell the ownCloud sync client never to sync folders named
'.zim'; or b) make sure all your notebooks have the Shared property set to
True.

* I have noticed occasionally that Zim says something about a temp file it
couldn't write or delete ... or something. But if I dismiss the dialog box
and wait a few seconds, the problem goes away. I have not lost data. If I
can ever figure out how to reproduce it, I will grab debug output and try
to open a coherent bug report.

Bottom line: ownCloud backend + ownCloud desktop sync + Zim is a winning
combination.




On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 11:57 AM, SultansOfSwing sultansofsw...@web.dewrote:

 Hello,

 I want to warn before anybody proposes to use OwnCloud's syncing
 capabilities for Zim. I tried it some time ago with no luck. The problem
 was that the OwnCloud Sync Client had a really weird naming scheme for
 temporary files and for conflicted files, so whenever any of those
 happen to remain in your Zim tree, they create weird index entries, and
 even worse, on next sync all of these files will be happily distributed
 over all other clients and so forth.

 (OwnCloud is in active development, so perhaps I'll give it a try again
 and let you know if things changed.)

 Regards,
 SultansOfSwing.

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[Zim-wiki] Zim Wiki community wiki

[Brendan Kidwell]

Thanks for coming up with an alternative since DokuWiki broke, Jaap.

Contributing to a documentation project on GitHub might be a little tricky
for those who are used to a system like DokuWiki, but it should work just
fine for us who are interested in Zim, I hope. On the other hand, it may be
easier than DokuWiki for those who are used to software development
workflows where you check out a resource, make changes to source code, and
push changes back to the source.

If no one else does so in the next couple of weeks, I'll try to get in
there and make a definitive set of instructions for newbies to contribute
to the wiki (assuming the audience is not familiar with DVCS workflows and
git), by the middle of November. I've also got some actual content I'll be
adding in the next couple of months.


On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Jaap Karssenberg 
jaap.karssenb...@gmail.com wrote:

 In the mean time I did look into why the community wiki on the website
 stopped working. Turns out the php install of my hosting provider is no
 longer compatible with the dokuwiki install. As an experiment I moved the
 main content (*) to a github wiki.

 So the community documentation can now be found here:
 https://github.com/jaap-karssenberg/zim-wiki/wiki

 Feel free to contribute and document any hacks there as well.

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Re: [Zim-wiki] ALT+NUMPAD not working on WinXP

[Brendan Kidwell]

Zim is a Python application that depends completely on the GTK+ framework
for interacting with the display and input devices, as well as a few other
things. I don't think Zim does anything special with GTK+'s keyboard input
functions, so the problem may be in GTK+ on Windows, not with Zim itself.

I can't immediately find a solution based on the assumption that it's a
problem with GTK+. (It may be a Zim-specific problem.)

If you find any further clues or evidence, please post them on a bug report
I created for this issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/zim/+bug/1245274 .
Also, subscribe to that bug to find out when it gets resolved. I'll see if
I can squash it or identify the root cause and pass it to Jaap before the
end of the current release cycle.



On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Marco Cevoli marco.cev...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi André,

 I'm aware of that. I exactly described my problem in my previous
 message. The ALT+key combination works in every program except
 Zim-Wiki, so it's obvious that there's an issue with it. :)

 Bests


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 On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 1:11 AM, andré and...@laposte.net wrote:
  Marco Cevoli a écrit :
 
  Hi,
 
  if I try to type a special character using ALT + (code) on the numeric
  pad, nothing happens. For instance, I would like to add accented
  capital E (È) or curly double quotes and I can't.
 
  Any hints?
 
 
  In the Microsoft environment you can always install the
  US International character set, which uses the standard US keyboard,
  adding accents and other special characters via alt + key (or maybe
 control
  + key).
  Alternately you can install the character set for your localisation
 (Italian
  ?).
  Note that you can have more tnan one character set installed, and switch
  between them as you wish.
  I forget the details for installing and using the different character
 sets
  in the Microsoft environment. (I use Linux.)
 
 
  Thanks
 
  Marco Cevoli
 
 
 
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Re: [Zim-wiki] ALT+NUMPAD not working on WinXP

[Brendan Kidwell]

Also, don't forget that Zim has its own typing shortcut for non-keyboard
characters. The manual says you can type
   backslash SYMBOL-NAME space
to get most of the named special characters from HTML. See this list:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_XML_and_HTML_character_entity_references.
For example, if I type \Yacute , it gets converted by Zim to Ý.
This
works on all Zim-suported platforms.

Again, we'll see if we can get the host OS's ALT+nnn method to work too in
a future release.



On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Brendan Kidwell sn...@glump.net wrote:

 Zim is a Python application that depends completely on the GTK+ framework
 for interacting with the display and input devices, as well as a few other
 things. I don't think Zim does anything special with GTK+'s keyboard input
 functions, so the problem may be in GTK+ on Windows, not with Zim itself.

 I can't immediately find a solution based on the assumption that it's a
 problem with GTK+. (It may be a Zim-specific problem.)

 If you find any further clues or evidence, please post them on a bug
 report I created for this issue:
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/zim/+bug/1245274 . Also, subscribe to that bug
 to find out when it gets resolved. I'll see if I can squash it or identify
 the root cause and pass it to Jaap before the end of the current release
 cycle.



 On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Marco Cevoli marco.cev...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi André,

 I'm aware of that. I exactly described my problem in my previous
 message. The ALT+key combination works in every program except
 Zim-Wiki, so it's obvious that there's an issue with it. :)

 Bests


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 On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 1:11 AM, andré and...@laposte.net wrote:
  Marco Cevoli a écrit :
 
  Hi,
 
  if I try to type a special character using ALT + (code) on the numeric
  pad, nothing happens. For instance, I would like to add accented
  capital E (È) or curly double quotes and I can't.
 
  Any hints?
 
 
  In the Microsoft environment you can always install the
  US International character set, which uses the standard US keyboard,
  adding accents and other special characters via alt + key (or maybe
 control
  + key).
  Alternately you can install the character set for your localisation
 (Italian
  ?).
  Note that you can have more tnan one character set installed, and switch
  between them as you wish.
  I forget the details for installing and using the different character
 sets
  in the Microsoft environment. (I use Linux.)
 
 
  Thanks
 
  Marco Cevoli
 
 
 
  --
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Re: [Zim-wiki] ALT+NUMPAD not working on WinXP

[Brendan Kidwell]

... I forgot to mention you need to have the Insert Symbol plugin turned
on for Zim's method to work.


On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 5:06 PM, Brendan Kidwell sn...@glump.net wrote:

 Also, don't forget that Zim has its own typing shortcut for non-keyboard
 characters. The manual says you can type
backslash SYMBOL-NAME space
 to get most of the named special characters from HTML. See this list:
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_XML_and_HTML_character_entity_references.
  For example, if I type \Yacute , it gets converted by Zim to Ý. This
 works on all Zim-suported platforms.

 Again, we'll see if we can get the host OS's ALT+nnn method to work too in
 a future release.



 On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Brendan Kidwell sn...@glump.net wrote:

 Zim is a Python application that depends completely on the GTK+ framework
 for interacting with the display and input devices, as well as a few other
 things. I don't think Zim does anything special with GTK+'s keyboard input
 functions, so the problem may be in GTK+ on Windows, not with Zim itself.

 I can't immediately find a solution based on the assumption that it's a
 problem with GTK+. (It may be a Zim-specific problem.)

 If you find any further clues or evidence, please post them on a bug
 report I created for this issue:
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/zim/+bug/1245274 . Also, subscribe to that
 bug to find out when it gets resolved. I'll see if I can squash it or
 identify the root cause and pass it to Jaap before the end of the current
 release cycle.



 On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Marco Cevoli marco.cev...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi André,

 I'm aware of that. I exactly described my problem in my previous
 message. The ALT+key combination works in every program except
 Zim-Wiki, so it's obvious that there's an issue with it. :)

 Bests


 Marco Cevoli
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 On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 1:11 AM, andré and...@laposte.net wrote:
  Marco Cevoli a écrit :
 
  Hi,
 
  if I try to type a special character using ALT + (code) on the numeric
  pad, nothing happens. For instance, I would like to add accented
  capital E (È) or curly double quotes and I can't.
 
  Any hints?
 
 
  In the Microsoft environment you can always install the
  US International character set, which uses the standard US keyboard,
  adding accents and other special characters via alt + key (or maybe
 control
  + key).
  Alternately you can install the character set for your localisation
 (Italian
  ?).
  Note that you can have more tnan one character set installed, and
 switch
  between them as you wish.
  I forget the details for installing and using the different character
 sets
  in the Microsoft environment. (I use Linux.)
 
 
  Thanks
 
  Marco Cevoli
 
 
 
  --
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[Zim-wiki] Free presentation in Boston, 11 Dec: Learn Zim: The Free Replacement for Evernote and Solution to Chaos in Your Life

[Brendan Kidwell]

If you are in the USA anywhere near Boston in December, you are invited to
see a free presentation by me at a local computer club about how to use Zim
to get work done. Also, I will be recording it and will hopefully be able
to produce a decent video to share online by January or so.

The presentation will be at Akamai in Cambridge, Massachusetts on 11
December 2013. You must RSVP ahead of time at the following URL and be in
the lobby by 6:30pm. (Email Wil, the host, if you are delayed.)
http://www.meetup.com/desktop-linux-users-group/events/147244622/

The introduction will focus on the advantages of using free and open source
software, formats, and network protocols to maintain control over your own
personal data. Then we will have an hour-long discussion about how to get
work done and solve specific problems in Zim, including:
• task tracking
• diary
• drafting a paper
• making a web site
• syncing notebooks across computers

(I will repost this invitation later in November in case any locals miss
this notice.)
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[Zim-wiki] Is the public Dokuwiki instance for Zim broken?

[Brendan Kidwell]

I wanted to copy my recipe for inserting tables using GraphViz (
http://zim-wiki.org/wiki/doku.php?id=create_tables_using_graphviz ) to a
new page and explain how to do it with LaTeX (Insert Equation).

I tried to login with my saved login in my password file and I got a blank
response. I tried logging in with the wrong password -- blank response. I
tried requesting a password reset email -- blank response.
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[Zim-wiki] I registered an IRC channel on FreeNode for Zim

[Brendan Kidwell]

In the last few months I've become one of those people who hangs out on a
handful of IRC channels during most of the work day, using a remote client
connected to a core IRC gateway (Quassel IRC) that keeps me always online
on the various IRC networks I use.

I took the initiative to create a channel #zim-wiki for Zim support and
other Zim-related conversations. We will follow the How to be a Good
Catalyst document ( http://freenode.net/catalysts.shtml ) and Channel
Guidelines ( http://freenode.net/channel_guidelines.shtml ) and generally
try to make sure that anyone who shows up plays nice, just the same as on
this mailing list.

Jaap: Would you endorse this channel and list it on http://zim-wiki.org on
the appropriate page? (If not, I'll change the name to ##zim-wiki to
indicate that it's unofficial.)

All: Do you think YOU could be a good op (moderator) and want to be one, in
addition to myself?

If you don't know what all this is, read the docs (
https://www.freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml ), log on to FreeNode, and
join the channel #zim-wiki.

Brendan Kidwell
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Re: [Zim-wiki] I finally found an easy solution to sync my zim notebook across computers

[Brendan Kidwell]

Keep an eye on https://prism-break.org/ for answers to questions like this
for networking and storage needs. The site lists some FOSS-only live/online
file sync tools; it looks like they all require a central coordination
server (one that you control or one that you rent capacity on), or
optionally more than one server for fault tolerance.

If you can provide a central point of contact upon which to run the sync
software you choose, something like ownCloud or SparkleShare should do the
trick for you.



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 Thanks for that heads up. Unfortunately, the lack of FOSS is a deal
 breaker for me.

 I wonder if their is anything else available for peer-to-peer sync'ing -
 apart from SFTP and SSH?


 On 19 August 2013 21:52, Pedro pedro...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just wanted to share this with other zim users.

 Bittorrent sync, developed Bittorrent Inc. It is _not_ FOSS. I had to
 install yet another binary blob on my system. Other than that, it works
 flawlessly.

 Sync is encrypted, all I need is a key which consists of a a random
 string. Sync is peer to peer, so there is no need to set up servers and
 whatnot.
 Rsync, samba shares, sftp, they all work but are, in my opinion, too high
 maintenance. I ended up just putting my notebooks in my dropbox folder, but
 never felt too happy about storing personal information on a server I don't
 control. Therefore I never really wrote there any valuable personal
 information such as document numbers, addresses, etc.

 Now I just created a share folder with bittorrent sync and saved the key
 to myself. Every now and then I leave a personal computer on when I go to
 work so everything gets synced.

 I would recommend this to most people as is it probably simpler to use
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim 0.60 released

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Hopefully I will update the Windows version updated by Thursday or Friday.
Look for an announcement here on the mailing list.

On Tuesday, May 7, 2013, Didier BRETIN wrote:

 Hello,

 Do you know if the windows version will be update soon ? If you don't
 know, can I use 0.59 under windows to edit my notebook which is principaly
 use under linux in 0.60 ?

 Regards.


 On 5 May 2013 12:10, Didier BRETIN did...@bretin.net javascript:_e({},
 'cvml', 'did...@bretin.net'); wrote:

 Thank you too for this version. Works great for me on Xubuntu !


 On 5 May 2013 11:41, Alessia ale...@gmail.com javascript:_e({},
 'cvml', 'ale...@gmail.com'); wrote:

 Thank you for the new version!!! It seems working fine on my system.
 (Ubuntu 12.04 with Xfce DM)
 Alessia


 Il 02/05/2013 09:39, Jaap Karssenberg ha scritto:

  On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Syv Ritch 
 s...@foto-biz.comjavascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 's...@foto-biz.com');
 wrote:

 Thanks for the new version. I just upgraded to 0.60. I just have some
 questions. I use Zim 0.60 on an xUbuntu 12.04.

 * Up to 0.59 (including 0.59), every time that I would stop typing,
Zim would save the notebook after a few seconds. It doesn't do it
anymore, Zim only saves the notebook on exit. I preferred the older
way of auto-saving. Is there a way for changing it back to the
continuous auto-save?

 * The new 0.60 is much slower on startup than 0.59. I did a: zim
--index -V notebooks/(notebook name). It helped (a lot) with the
speed of the startup but definitely not as fast as 0.59 which was
almost instantaneous. After the startup I do not see much of
difference in the speed. Am I the only one and doing something
wrong or...

 Afraid I don't recognize either of those two items.

 Auto-save code has not changed at all in this release. Checking on my
 system is saves about every 10 seconds or when leaving a page. If this
 does not work on your system, please open a bug report.

 First time startup may indeed be slower due to the index being
 rebuild. After that there should be no delta. In fact on my system the
 new version is faster than the old one. Might help to run zim with
 debug logging and see at what debug output the time is spent. Also
 something that should go in a bug report.

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[Zim-wiki] Zim 0.60 for Windows released

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Zim for Windows home: http://www.glump.net/software/zim-windows

-- Desktop Installer --
http://www.glump.net/files/release/zim-windows/Zim-setup-0.60_2013-05-07.exe

-- Portable Installer --
http://www.glump.net/files/release/zim-windows/ZimDesktopWikiPortable_0.60.paf.exe

-- Verify --
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Encrypted Zim wiki

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I use encfs myself.

I'm against putting crypto functions into Zim -- it's out of scope and
dangerous. As a developer, every time you take on functions like that, and
handle keys (user types in passphrase, for example) you open yourself to
the possibility of screwing up and putting users' data at risk. As much as
possible we should leave the implementation to security-obsessed experts.

For the quickest solution, I think TrueCrypt is the easiest to setup and
works the same on all supported platforms. It only introduces one extra
step in daily use before you open a notebook.

Brendan Kidwell
On Mar 15, 2013 3:16 AM, Jaap Karssenberg jaap.karssenb...@gmail.com
wrote:

 On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Per pmknut...@gmail.com wrote:
  Is there a Zim plugin for encrypting a wiki and unlocking with a
 passphrase?

 There is not. Current recommendation is to use an encrypted file
 system. E.g. on Ubuntu Linux there is a standard option to encrypt
 your home folder. On other systems you can install products that will
 encrypt a specific folder.

 Put the zim notebook in such a folder and all is save. Jsut unlock the
 folder before opening zim (or use the automount plugin.)

  If not, then is this something which in principle could be
  accomplished with a plugin?

 In principle yes, but will require some hacking in other parts of zim
 as well. Would need to add a step in the file system code such that
 the plugin can decrypt a file before it is read by the notebook.

 Regards,

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[Zim-wiki] Zim 0.57 for Windows released

[Brendan Kidwell]

Good news everyone!

I downloaded lp:zim rev 600 (release 0.57) and ran my build process on a
freshly thawed Windows XP SP3 virtual machine, and everything worked just
fine. I didn't do extensive testing, but everything built and I was able to
launch the app and use the installers.

- Brendan Kidwell
... your froody Zim for Windows package maintainer


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-- Portable Installer --
http://www.glump.net/content/zim/ZimDesktopWikiPortable_0.57.paf.exe

-- Verify --
http://www.glump.net/content/zim/Zim-setup-0.57_2012-11-09.exe.md5
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim 0.57 released!

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If you mean the Windows installer, I'll have that done by Wednesday or so.
Sorry it hasn't been a high priority for me. You're welcome to download the
source follow the instructions in windows/README-BUILD-win32.txt if you
want to give it a shot.

On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 5:15 PM, Svenn Are Bjerkem 
svenn.bjer...@googlemail.com wrote:

 On 8 October 2012 22:02, Jaap Karssenberg jaap.karssenb...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Dear all,
 
  I'm happy to announce the release of zim version 0.57.

 Is an installer of 0.57 being prepared? Seems some things may have
 been fixed in 0.57 which prevented the zimcapture firefox plugin from
 working as it is supposed to. Anybody knows if an install from source
 of 0.57 will do the trick? 0.56 works so nicely for me (except that
 plugin) ,that I am reluctant to mess around.

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Re: [Zim-wiki] Have you seen OpenZIM?

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On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 5:55 PM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 14:53, Brendan Kidwell sn...@glump.net wrote:
 I noticed the name conflict a year or two ago. The 'openZIM' project's
 web site indicates it was created in 2009. I don't see how they could
 have missed the existing Zim Desktop Wiki project at that time.

 I don't understand exactly what openZIM does at a low level. It's not
 clear at first glance what markup language is used to encode rich
 text. Why not use the more widely-accepted EPUB format, and create a
 nice set of EPUB readers for various platforms including UI features
 geared towards large wikis and large reference works?

 Isn't epub jus an HTML container?

Pretty much. I was just casually thinking out loud that you should be
able to adapt wiki content to it. Also, the most likely place I'd
personally want to consume wiki pages besides my smartphone or my
Internet-connected desktop would be ... a hardware ebook reader.

Brendan

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[Zim-wiki] Zim 0.56 for Windows released

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This release SHOULD fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/zim/+bug/923679
Zim 0.54 doesn't work on Windows XP. The problem was that Py2exe was
not including required msvcr90.dll in the build output.

My fix to the build script and build instructions are attached to this
ticket and a merge request was sent to Jaap. You can download the
fresh 0.56 Windows build from my web site. I have tested both the
Desktop and Portable builds on a bare minimum Windows XP SP3 virtual
machine -- no VM hardware drivers; no Windows Updates performed; only
Portable FileZilla installed. As it works on this VM, I hope it will
work for you.


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-- Desktop Installer --
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-- Portable Installer --
http://www.glump.net/content/zim/ZimDesktopWikiPortable_0.56.paf.exe

-- Verify --
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Installing on Windows: This application has failed to start because the application configuration is incorrect

[Brendan Kidwell]

BLOODY REPLY-ALL NON-DEFAULT issue in Gmail... Trying again to all.


Thanks for the heads up.

Sorry I've been quiet. Obviously at this point, Zim 0.55 isn't going
to happen. Last week I prepared a pristine Windows XP SP 3 VM with
pesky WGA removed, and I'm going to fork that VM and use one instance
to build Zim 0.56, and another to snapshot, test Zim, and roll-back as
many times as needed until I get it working. If my build runs on a
clean XP SP 3 install, it should hopefully work for anyone. I will be
sure to determine for certain whether VC++ Runtime or other missing
parts of the OS are needed to be included in the installer. Why the
Visual C++ runtime libraries are not included in the OS installer is
beyond my comprehension. I hate building software for Windows.


On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote:
 I just had a hard time installing Zim 0.54 on Windows XP SP3. The
 application seemed to install fine, but when running it I would get
 the following error:
 This application has failed to start because the application
 configuration is incorrect.

 It turns out that the problem was that Visual C++ was not installed:
 http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?displaylang=enid=5582

 I do not think that either Python nor GTK were installed on that
 machine, and I did not have to install them separately. Only Visual
 C++ and Zim itself.

 This message is to inform people who run into this issue in the
 future, including myself for next time.

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Re: [Zim-wiki] 0.55 update for Windows binaries?

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I'm the Windows build guy. Yes I've been following the list and I was
aware of the release. I'll try to get it done this weekend.

And there's nothing wrong with some gentle prodding.

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:44 AM,  hans...@gmail.com wrote:
 When I have time I'll test running Zim from source within my portable
 python environment and report back here, but just in case it's just slipped
 through the cracks, it seems that the Windows download section needs to be
 updated to the latest release.

 In case those responsible are fully aware and just haven't got a round tuit
 yet, my apologies for pestering.

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[Zim-wiki] Support contact method for Zim?

[Brendan Kidwell]

I got a support query personally addressed to me (and I responded
politely). I'm not sure how it is that I looked like the best place to
ask, but I did notice that the zim-wiki.org doesn't address this very
well.

The Bugs page tells you where to file a bug but not where to ask
non-bug questions. The Contribute page has a misplaced Contact
section inviting the reader to join the mailing list, but I don't
think everyone looking to ask a question would find this.

Jaap, or whoever is the web site maintainer: Can we please have a
Contact section on the Home or About page that says explicitly and
concisely:

   User questions and development discussion: [url]
   View bugs or open a new bug: [url]

Thanks!

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Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim .54 on Windows Vista Doesn't Start

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All, it's going to take me another few days to track down this
problem. I suspect it's a missing DLL -- not sure if it's a system
library you ought to have, or a missing inclusion from the GTK
distribution into Zim. I haven't had a chance to look into it yet.

Thanks for your patience.

On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 5:56 PM, mowestusa mowest...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Sorry that it took me a few days to run the debug of Zim .54. Below, you
 will find the information. I hope that it helps diagnose the issue that I'm
 having with Zim .54 on Vista 32bit. Thanks for your help.

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Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim 0.54 packages for Windows released

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On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 2:00 AM, Brendan Kidwell sn...@glump.net wrote:

 P.S. I had a look at the problem of including gtkspell in the Zim for
 Windows packages. It doesn't look good right now. The only publicly
 available Windows build of PyGTKSpell that I could find was on a wiki in
 the GRAMPS project  http://gramps-project.org/ , and it was for Python
 2.6, not 2.7 which I'm using. Did anyone have any luck tracking down and/or
 compiling all the prerequisites to get the Zim spelling plugin working in
 Windows?


Okay, I just read Greg and Nathan's messages in this mailing list in
December. I might be able to do something with that but it looks scary. In
the absense of an official build of PyGTKSpell, I'll probably want to
figure out how to do my own proper build of it.
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[Zim-wiki] Zim 0.54 packages for Windows released

[Brendan Kidwell]

Download Desktop or Portable installer from
http://www.glump.net/software/zim .

I am still in the process of getting the project listed in the
PortableApps.com catalog. The current portable build IS production-ready
and available at the above URL.

Pursuant to this thread http://portableapps.com/node/29350 I've made a
bunch of minor changes to the ./windows folder of the Zim source, and
those changes are available at lp:~bkidwell/zim/pyzim-win-installer .
(Merge request already sent to Jaap.)

Brendan Kidwell

P.S. I had a look at the problem of including gtkspell in the Zim for
Windows packages. It doesn't look good right now. The only publicly
available Windows build of PyGTKSpell that I could find was on a wiki in
the GRAMPS project  http://gramps-project.org/ , and it was for Python
2.6, not 2.7 which I'm using. Did anyone have any luck tracking down and/or
compiling all the prerequisites to get the Zim spelling plugin working in
Windows?
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[Zim-wiki] Zim 0.54 -- building for Windows?

[Brendan Kidwell]

On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 5:30 PM, Jaap Karssenberg 
jaap.karssenb...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just put a new release on the website - will probably be available in
 PPA in a few hours.


Jaap, I'm a little confused about which revision in the source repository I
should be building against for the 0.54 Windows release and/or patching
against if I need to make changes to the Windows build process.
https://launchpad.net/zim lists 0.50, released 14 Dec, as the current
version, which doesn't make any sense. I don't see any kind of milestone or
tag that positively identifies the revision number that is 0.54. Can you
help me out?
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim 0.54 -- building for Windows?

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Thanks. Hopefully I'll get a Windows build of 0.54 out by 2 Jan or so.

On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Jaap Karssenberg 
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 The 0.50 on Launchpad is a bug in their auto-detect - - not sure why
  it picked that up. Rev465 should be tagged as 0.54.
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Re: [Zim-wiki] mime type of zim notes

[Brendan Kidwell]

My personal opinion is that this would be a good change, for the
reasons currently on the table. I would use the file extension
.zimpage or .zimnote.

Also, what happens if you shell-launch a Zim page file from the
desktop file manager or search tool using the executable zim? Does
it explore up the tree to find a notebook.zim file, open the whole
notebook and navigate to the page? If not I think it should. How much
work would that be?



On 12/5/11, Jaap Karssenberg jaap.karssenb...@gmail.com wrote:
 All,

 We have had this discussion before. I'm not against changing the extension
 for zim notes, but only on the condition that we have a clear file
 extension. The .note suggested above is something I would consider as it
 is human readable - but not sure if we can use that if it is already in use
 by Tomboy.

 Suggestions I rejected i nthe past include .zim - which is used for the
 notebook config, .wiki as being to generic (although I might reconsider
 that one) and more cryptic combinations like zwk for zim-wiki etc.

 Regards,

 Jaap


 On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 3:53 AM, Michael Mulqueen
 mich...@mulqueen.me.ukwrote:

 Hi Marcel and Svenn,

 Obviously Jaap will have to decide as it's his project. But I'd be
 very much in favour of using a different file extension for zim's
 files. I see only benefits. We gain the ability to do a fast mimetype
 determination and with it the ability to integrate into things like
 Zeitgeist. It won't change the ability to open zim files in a plain
 text editor such as vim or gedit. In fact, if anyone needs this, all
 they need to do is change the default program for the mimetype (which
 is easily done from Nautilus) or access from the open dialogue of the
 program. I note that the mime file for zim describes zim's format as a
 subset of plain text, so you would hope that anything that struggled
 with the idea of text/x-zim-wiki would see text/plain and treat it as
 such.

 I can't remember for sure, but I seem to recall older versions of zim
 (perhaps even back to the Perl Zim) not having the current header
 information etc. that they do. Perhaps Jaap could confirm whether I'm
 imagining this or not. In those days, it would obviously make sense
 for them to be referred to as plain text, because that's actually all
 they were. Now it's closer to file format in its own right.

 Regards,
 Mike

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 svenn.bjer...@googlemail.com wrote:
  On 4 December 2011 22:49, Marcel Stimberg
  stimb...@users.sourceforge.net wrote:
  Hi Michael,
  I think there are two solutions to this problem:
  * Register the .txt extension for the text/x-zim-wiki mime type --
  this has the small disadvantage that for all .txt files, a time-costly
  (relatively speaking) content lookup has to be performed
  * Use a different extension for zim notes (e.g. Tomboy uses .note)
 
  Any thoughts on this?
 
  I really would like to see zim accept that .txt files are pure text
  files and not supposed to be interpreted. Maybe making the extension
  configurable in the notebook.zim file? Using 'find' or 'locate' in
  unix looking for files with ending .txt seldom show me only my zim
  notebook pages.
 
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Links

[Brendan Kidwell]

I see the same effect with Linux Mint and Zim 0.53. When in non-editable
mode, left-clicking on local links and URLs both have no effect. I'm pretty
sure this isn't intentional; please open a bug at
http://bugs.launchpad.net/zim .
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Alan Cummings acummi...@gmx.com wrote:

 Usually when I'm browsing through wiki pages I have Zim in non-editable
 mode, just so I don't accidentally delete/edit anything important. But I
 notice that I am unable to click on a link and go to that page/site, I am
 able to right-click on it and choose Open. This only happens in
 Non-editable mode, is this the way Zim is suppose to work? Or is it only
 me??

 Zim 0.53
 Lubuntu 11.10

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Re: [Zim-wiki] wiki syntax - Markup is not working

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On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Marco Cevoli marco.cev...@gmail.comwrote:

 CTRL+R, I see. Then it works perfectly. Sorry to bother you.
 :)


On the contrary, I think it's good when people ask questions here when
they're confused, even if the end result is the product is working as
designed. It's valuable to know where newbies are having difficulty about
something that's obvious to us old timers, and it may inform future UI
and/or architecture decisions.

Brendan Kidwell
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Google Docs as Zim backend?

[Brendan Kidwell]

I personally use Dropbox + EncFS to synchronize my notebooks across multiple
hosts, and it works quite well for me.

I'd be concerned about using something like Google Docs for a few reasons:

How much of an old school set of filesystem semantics is supported by
Google Docs? Can Collections have other Collections as children? How are
unknown-format binary attachments handled? Can attachments be a child of a
Collection or must they be a child of a Document? In Zim, an attachment is a
child of a Folder in the filesystem backend and not linked bidirectionally
to a containing text File.

What's the latency like? How long does it take to scan the contents of a
deep tree with 3 years worth of notes in it, to create a Zim index file?
With Dropbox's full local cache of the data stored as real files, Zim does
this seconds or less.
Zim's rich text capabilties might not map cleanly and reversibly to Google
Docs' (HTML-based?) rich text. Would we store Zim as plain text in a Docs
Document and strip out any HTML formatting when reading back into Zim?

Is there any precedent for this kind of thing? Are other PIM or notebook
apps doing it? Do the API docs have anything to say about this use-case for
Google Docs?

All that having been said, if you have the skillz, by all means mock
something up or write up a spec and lets explore it.

Brendan Kidwell


On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 5:29 AM, Roberto Suarez Soto talkingxo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

just wondering: has anyone thought about using Google Docs as
 backend to Zim?

It seems it wouldn't be too hard: the API is well documented, and
 Google Docs collections and documents are very similar to Zim's
 directories and files. I'm not volunteering, but I'd be eager to betatest,
 if someone dares to do it :-)

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Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim 0.53 for Windows available now

[Brendan Kidwell]

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 2:46 AM, Marco Cevoli marco.cev...@gmail.comwrote:

 Just a quick note: on http://www.glump.net/software/zim the table
 reads: download 12MB, but the installer weighs about 21MB. Perhaps
 it's a typo. I'm letting you know this, because the size difference
 might confuse some users.


Thanks for pointing that out. I'd swapped the sizes of the two installers in
the wiki page, by mistake. Fixed it.

Brendan Kidwell
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[Zim-wiki] Zim 0.53 for Windows available now

[Brendan Kidwell]

The Windows builds of Zim 0.53 are ready to download. Thanks to Jaap and all
other contributors for their hard work.

http://www.glump.net/software/zim

The Desktop Installer creates Start Menu shortcuts and shell launch
integration for .zim files. The new Portable Installer based on
PortableApps.com's toolchain creates no system-wide footprint and runs
entirely from its installed folder. If you want to keep the executable on a
thumbdrive or a network share, use the Portable version.

If you installed a prerelease build of 0.53 for Windows, please reinstall
from one of the installers published today!

A note about the PortableApps.com tools: While I did use PortableApps.com's
toolchain to build the portable installer (and save myself a lot of
experimentation), I have not yet submitted the application to
PortableApps.com. Surprisingly, there is no simple submit a new
application form. You're expected to join the community, do the usual
lurking, post a forum message in the Beta releases forum, and then hope
that one of the catalog maintainers will pick up your project after people
post positive comments. I suppose I can understand why they'd do it this
way, but I expected something more like Freshmeat's workflow. Oh well. I'll
be starting that process this week and if it ever goes anywhere I'll let you
all know.

Brendan Kidwell
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Re: [Zim-wiki] ZIm and handling of PLAIN TEXT FILES

[Brendan Kidwell]

On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 1:01 AM, Anthony Thyssen
a.thys...@griffith.edu.auwrote:

 I have looked at a lot of different 'text note browsers'.

 That is a way of storing simple notes that can be brought up on screen
 for making notes, cuting an pasting templates (code and so on), and
 storing those notes where I want them.

 Zim does all these things and I am quite happy with it -- mostly.
 It certainly beats a lot of other 'note browsers' I have looked at,
 including gnote and the newer 'postitnote' programs I checked out.

 The main failing with the others have been there heavy handed behaviour
 in text formatting or where or how the files are saved.

 I like and prefer to use PLAIN TEXT whenever posible.


It sounds like you might be better served by an Orthodox File Managers.
http://www.softpanorama.org/OFM/index.shtml
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_manager#Orthodox_file_managers

You want something with hierarchical directory browser and quick view/edit
function for text files -- preferably integrated into the main application
as a panel that doesn't go away.

It's a bit of a long shot, but you -- I assume you're using a Unix -- might
want to try out ZTreeWin under WINE if you can run WINE. I can't find a
relevant screenshot at this time, but I know it has a mode where after you
choose a working directory, you can have a file list panel on the left and a
contents viewer on the right, and 'E' transitions to an editor window, or
something like that. (Incidentally I'm not sure I'd call ZTreeWin an OFM,
but it's in a related genre.)

That having been said, I've had good luck pasting text from any source into
Zim and having it come out mostly unchanged. As the manual says, Zim
currently uses markup that requires at least two repeated characters to open
and close markup tags. If what I'm pasting is not semantically or visually
marked up to begin with, I'm usually fine.

Brendan
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[Zim-wiki] building Zim version 0.53 release

[Brendan Kidwell]

On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Jaap Karssenberg 
jaap.karssenb...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just uploaded the package for zim release 0.53 to the website.


Jaap, I'm ready to do the Windows build, but I can't figure out what to
build from. I don't see a Zim 0.53 tag in lp:zim, and the source tarball
on the web site doesn't have the ./windows folder in it. Can you tell me
exactly which revision number in the repository to pull from? (Or am I doing
something wrong?)

Brendan Kidwell
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Can not import 'xdg.Mime' - falling back to 'mimetypes'

[Brendan Kidwell]

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Ramiro Magno ramiro.ma...@gmail.comwrote:

 I'm not sure if this is really a problem/bug.

 I used to have this warning just after launching zim from the command line:
 WARNING: Can not import 'xdg.Mime' - falling back to 'mimetypes'

 googling lead me to this:
 https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/20707

 and my linux distro happens to be arch. This bug has been closed though as
 it was reported to have been fixed in zim-0.48-2.
 I have zim 0.52 and this warning was still printed out though, until I
 installed the pyxdg package (0.19-2). Now  the warning is gone.


I don't understand what's going on, but for anyone who might look into it,
here's a comparison from Linux Mint:

$ zim --debug 2log

--- begin debug output
INFO: This is zim 0.52
DEBUG: Python version is sys.version_info(major=2, minor=7, micro=1,
releaselevel='final', serial=0)
DEBUG: Platform is posix
DEBUG: No bzr version-info found
DEBUG: Not running from a source dir
DEBUG: Set XDG_DATA_HOME to /home/brendan/.local/share
DEBUG: Set XDG_DATA_DIRS to [Dir: /usr/share/gnome, Dir:
/usr/local/share, Dir: /usr/share]
DEBUG: Set XDG_CONFIG_HOME to /home/brendan/.config
DEBUG: Set XDG_CONFIG_DIRS to [Dir: /etc/xdg/xdg-gnome, Dir: /etc/xdg]
DEBUG: Set XDG_CACHE_HOME to /home/brendan/.cache
DEBUG: Running command: gui
--- end debug output (truncated!)

I didn't see any warnings or errors regarding MIME.
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[Zim-wiki] Windows 0.53 PRERELEASE -- second attempt

[Brendan Kidwell]

I tried this earlier this week and posted the results without having tested
my build on a clean machine. Thanks Marco for the early failure report.

I'm not sure why it failed, but I started again tonight with two CLEAN
Windows XP virtual machines tonight (instead of Windows 2008). I followed my
build instructions on one, and installed the result on the other. And it
really seems to be working okay for me now! I tested on clean Windows XP and
also a Windows 2008 ASP.NET development box.

*** Now that the package actually works at least for me, I still need a
non-English user to confirm that the portable and desktop versions both
display the correct languages for Zim menus and dialog boxes, please. The
desktop installer's text is English-only, but the application should show
translations. ***

Once I get a confirmation or two, I'll send Jaap a merge request.


Windows-specific changes since 0.50 (last stable Windows release):

* Desktop installer clears $PROGRAMFILES/Zim Desktop Wiki before writing
to it.

* Desktop UNINSTALLER correctly removes user-level and all users-level
Desktop icon and Start Menu shortcuts (2008, 7, Vista).

* Added 256x256 resolution image to zim.ico file for better appearance in
Desktop folder (2008, 7, Vista).

* Created portable installer package using PortableApps.com tools -- good
for running Zim from a thumbdrive. Ready to final submit to PortableApps.com
after we go live with 0.53.

* Fixed look and feel on windows: default gtk laf is used
https://bugs.launchpad.net/zim/+bug/830043 .

* notebooks.list and other config files are written with paths relative to
$HOME now instead of absolute paths; this enables a Portable launcher
without having to rewrite notebooks.list during every launch. The launcher
script just has to set $HOME to the app's folder instead of the user's local
profile. (I've got this covered.)

* Added EULA.rtf (converted from ./LICENSE.txt) to desktop and portable
installers. Yes it's one more thing to click on, but it may come in handy if
someone finds the installer in a dusty archive years from now.

* Fixed various bugs that caused Zim to fail to start entirely for Windows
in 0.51 through 0.52 releases.


Desktop installer
http://www.glump.net/content/zim/Zim-setup-0.53_PRERELEASE_2011-09-09.exe

PortableApps.com installer
http://www.glump.net/content/zim/ZimDesktopWikiPortable_0.53_PRERELEASE.paf.exe

Not-yet-merged Windows-related code changes to produce the above packages
https://code.launchpad.net/~bkidwell/zim/pyzim-win-installer


Always backup your data!

If you try out this build, please follow the mailing list and upgrade when
the FINAL 0.53 build for Windows is available.
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Windows 0.53 PRERELEASE -- second attempt

[Brendan Kidwell]

On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 10:53 PM, Colin Henderson colinr.hender...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Brendan ..  I just installed .. showed as version 0.52.9 btw - works
 perfectly and seems faster.

 Using Windows 7 Professional on Thinkpad T400s

 Thanks for the good work on Zim all .. once in a while I go off and try MS
 OneNote, but I always come back to Zim, now a user for nearly 5 years.


Thanks for the report.

How do you sync OneNote to a repository? :^) (I'm being facetious; I figure
the answer involves some very expensive Enterprisey stuff, if there is an
answer.) I feel icky if my files aren't completely open and play nice with
my scripts and with version control and stuff like that.
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Re: [Zim-wiki] policy question relating to PortableApps.com Zim package -- absolute paths stored in notebooks.list

[Brendan Kidwell]

Gah! I need to migrate out of Gmail! ... stupid reply-only-to-sender default
for lists!!! (sending this a second time replying to all now)

On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Jaap Karssenberg jaap.karssenb...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Jaap Karssenberg 
 jaap.karssenb...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Brendan Kidwell sn...@glump.net wrote:

 So my question is this: How hard would it be to make Zim write paths in
 notebooks.list RELATIVE to $HOME instead of absolute? If it's doable, should
 we do it? Should I open a Bug for it?


 Sounds doable - I'll look into it - probably make the same change
 transparent for all config files.


 Has been checked in as rev439. Notebook list and some other config items
 now use paths relative to the HOME folder. So if you start zim with e.g. a
 bat file that sets HOME to point to the thumb drive it should work
 transparently.

 Great. I'll merge from trunk on Friday and have another go at the Windows
packaging. I ran into some difficulty getting py2exe's output along with all
of GTK's binaries -- following a good looking howto -- to actually work when
moved to a new machine. I'm going to try building on Windows XP instead of
2008, and Python 2.6 instead of 2.7 and see if that gets me anywhere.

Sorry I didn't get around to making a bug for this request. I had to sleep
and go to work. The relative path feature will definitely make the
PortableApps.com package simpler -- thanks!

Brendan
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[Zim-wiki] Windows 0.53 PRERELEASE including PortableApps.com build

[Brendan Kidwell]

[Trying sending this again because I used the wrong From address the first
time.]

All,

I've spent the last night tweaking the Windows build and install processes.

* Switched from GTK + PyCairo + PyGobject + PyGTK to PyGTK-all-in-one
package; brought the desktop installer package size down to 13.3MB

* Desktop installer clears $PROGRAMFILES/Zim Desktop Wiki before writing
to it. (Otherwise there might be some leftover cruft after the
PyGTK-all-in-one change.)

* Desktop UNINSTALLER correctly removes user-level and all users-level
Desktop icon and Start Menu shortcuts (2008, Vista, XP).

* Added 256x256 resolution image to zim.ico file for better appearance in
Desktop folder (2008, Vista, XP).

* Created portable installer package using PortableApps.com tools. Ready to
final submit to PortableApps.com after we go live with 0.53.

* Sorry, I couldn't make any headway on
https://bugs.launchpad.net/zim/+bug/830043 look and feel on windows:
default gtk laf is used.

Before I officially send Jaap a merge request for these changes, I hope that
one or two people could try it out. I'd particularly like to hear from
people who do NOT have English as their desktop language. (I couldn't figure
out how to change my default language to test it.)

Does your chosen language show up in the Zim application UI -- in the
DESKTOP and PORTABLE versions? (The desktop installer script itself is not
setup for translation, but the payload should be.)

Desktop installer
http://www.glump.net/content/zim/Zim-setup-0.53_PRERELEASE_2011-09-05.exe

PortableApps.com installer
http://www.glump.net/content/zim/ZimDesktopWikiPortable_0.53_PRERELEASE.paf.exe

Unmerged Windows-related code changes to produce the above
https://code.launchpad.net/~bkidwell/zim/pyzim-win-installer

If you try out this build, please follow the mailing list and upgrade when
the FINAL 0.53 build for Windows is available.

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[Zim-wiki] policy question relating to PortableApps.com Zim package -- absolute paths stored in notebooks.list

[Brendan Kidwell]

When the list of registered notebooks (for the Open Notebook dialog box)
changes, Zim writes the list to $XDG_CONFIG_HOME/zim/notebooks.list . The
paths in this file are always absolute paths with respect to the root of the
filesystem (at least on Windows it seems that is the case).

In order for my PortableApps.com Zim package to work when $XDG_CONFIG_HOME
and $HOME move around (different host, different Windows drive letter, etc.)
I had to implement this hack that runs during the Portable Zim launcher:

http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bkidwell/zim/pyzim-win-installer/view/head:/windows/src/prepare_notebook_list.js

* Let ~ be the PORTABLE APP ROOT (not user's home folder).
* Look in ~/Data/Notebooks for folders.
* For each folder, make an entry in ~/Data/Config/zim/notebooks.list .
* If a folder named Default is found, make that the Default notebook in
notebooks.list .

The launch runs this script, sets $HOME to ~ and $XDG_CONFIG_HOME to
~/Data/Config and then launches zim.exe .

So my question is this: How hard would it be to make Zim write paths in
notebooks.list RELATIVE to $HOME instead of absolute? If it's doable, should
we do it? Should I open a Bug for it?

Just to be clear, prepare_notebook_list.js only executes during the launcher
script for the PORTABLE package, not any other package.
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Re: [Zim-wiki] policy question relating to PortableApps.com Zim package -- absolute paths stored in notebooks.list

[Brendan Kidwell]

On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 7:57 AM, Brendan Kidwell sn...@glump.net wrote:

 The launch runs this script, sets $HOME to ~ and $XDG_CONFIG_HOME to
 ~/Data/Config and then launches zim.exe .


I just can't get my emails out clean today. Fix:

 The launch runs this script, sets $HOME to ~/Data and $XDG_CONFIG_HOME to
~/Data/Config and then launches zim.exe .
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Win update not working on my Win XP

[Brendan Kidwell]

On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 7:57 AM, Marco Cevoli marco.cev...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've run the update and after that the zim.exe and nothing happens on
 my machine (win xp Italian).


Please be more specific. The updates was an installer file from my recent
email? -- Which URL?

How did you run zim.exe? -- Did you execute Shortcut or navigate to a
file? Where?
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Windows 0.53 PRERELEASE including PortableApps.com build

[Brendan Kidwell]

On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 7:34 AM, Brendan Kidwell sn...@glump.net wrote:

 [Trying sending this again because I used the wrong From address the first
 time.]

 All,

 I've spent the last night tweaking the Windows build and install processes.

 ...


Marco reported that the installer doesn't work. It turns out it's missing a
bunch of GTK binaries again. I need to go to sleep. (Good thing today is a
bank holiday in USA.) I'll see if I can fix the windows pre-release build
tonight (GMT -5).
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim release planning

[Brendan Kidwell]

On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 6:46 AM, Jaap Karssenberg 
jaap.karssenb...@gmail.com wrote:

 With testing and translating I expect this release to be ready in 2 to 3
 weeks. Hopefully we can also have an updated windows installer based on that
 release.


There are several fixed Windows-related bugs in the main branch and one new
bug (#830043 look and feel on Windows) I just assigned to me.

By Sunday, 7 Aug 2011, I plan to fix that bug and do a clean build from the
current head and see what happens -- there shouldn't be any surprises. I'll
let you all know then if we're ready for a new Windows release the same time
the Zim 0.53 source goes out.

Brendan Kidwell
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