Re: [zones-discuss] Solaris 8/9 branded zones on Nevada and/or x86
Speaking from experience, there are some big deployments of Solaris 9 on x86 out there in the e-commerce and telco industries. But many have moved onto Solaris 10 thankfully. So I can understand the thinking here. But I'm sure there may be some good business cases where S8/9 branded zones on x86 would be desirable. *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Octave J. Orgeron Solaris Virtualization Architect and Consultant Web: http://unixconsole.blogspot.com E-Mail: unixcons...@yahoo.com *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* - Original Message From: Jeff Victor To: Rainer Orth Cc: zones-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Friday, October 2, 2009 8:54:27 PM Subject: Re: [zones-discuss] Solaris 8/9 branded zones on Nevada and/or x86 On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 5:59 AM, Rainer Orth wrote: > As far as I've been able to find out so far, Solaris 8 and 9 branded > zones are available and supported on Solaris 10 only right now, and only > for SPARC. Are there any plans to provide them for x86 and Nevada, too? There wasn't much Solaris 8 or Solaris 9 deployed on x86, so, to the best of my knowledge, there will not be a Solaris 8 Containers or Solaris 9 Containers for x86. As for Nevada - do you also mean x86? > There are two reasons I'm asking: I'd like to test current versions of > GCC on older Solaris releases without having to run on bare metal. Of > course I could use VirtualBox or xVM on x86, but the performance won't > be too good (I tested a GCC bootstrap on xVM dom0 quite some time ago > and it took about twice as long as on bare metal). And on SPARC, I > don't have a spare Ldom available to run Solaris 10, but would rather > use a zone on a V880 running Nevada. > > Especially given the fact that Sun wants to get Solaris 10 users on bare > metal to Nevada (Solaris 11, whatever) quickly by providing Solaris 10 > branded zones, it would only make sense to provide S8/S9 branded zones > on S11 as well. I follow your logic. It is very important to distinguish between the bi-weekly builds of OpenSolaris, the supported releases of the OpenSolaris distro, and the-next-version-of-Solaris-after-10. They are different entities, and the abilities to run S8C or S9C on each of those are very different things. S8C and S9C are (non-open-source) products that Sun (as opposed to other distributors of OpenSolaris distros) makes available. I don't think that this is an appropriate place for discussion of Sun's product futures. But I have been wrong about such things before... --JeffV ___ zones-discuss mailing list zones-discuss@opensolaris.org ___ zones-discuss mailing list zones-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [zones-discuss] Solaris 8/9 branded zones on Nevada and/or x86
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 5:59 AM, Rainer Orth wrote: > As far as I've been able to find out so far, Solaris 8 and 9 branded > zones are available and supported on Solaris 10 only right now, and only > for SPARC. Are there any plans to provide them for x86 and Nevada, too? There wasn't much Solaris 8 or Solaris 9 deployed on x86, so, to the best of my knowledge, there will not be a Solaris 8 Containers or Solaris 9 Containers for x86. As for Nevada - do you also mean x86? > There are two reasons I'm asking: I'd like to test current versions of > GCC on older Solaris releases without having to run on bare metal. Of > course I could use VirtualBox or xVM on x86, but the performance won't > be too good (I tested a GCC bootstrap on xVM dom0 quite some time ago > and it took about twice as long as on bare metal). And on SPARC, I > don't have a spare Ldom available to run Solaris 10, but would rather > use a zone on a V880 running Nevada. > > Especially given the fact that Sun wants to get Solaris 10 users on bare > metal to Nevada (Solaris 11, whatever) quickly by providing Solaris 10 > branded zones, it would only make sense to provide S8/S9 branded zones > on S11 as well. I follow your logic. It is very important to distinguish between the bi-weekly builds of OpenSolaris, the supported releases of the OpenSolaris distro, and the-next-version-of-Solaris-after-10. They are different entities, and the abilities to run S8C or S9C on each of those are very different things. S8C and S9C are (non-open-source) products that Sun (as opposed to other distributors of OpenSolaris distros) makes available. I don't think that this is an appropriate place for discussion of Sun's product futures. But I have been wrong about such things before... --JeffV ___ zones-discuss mailing list zones-discuss@opensolaris.org
[zones-discuss] Solaris 8/9 branded zones on Nevada and/or x86
As far as I've been able to find out so far, Solaris 8 and 9 branded zones are available and supported on Solaris 10 only right now, and only for SPARC. Are there any plans to provide them for x86 and Nevada, too? There are two reasons I'm asking: I'd like to test current versions of GCC on older Solaris releases without having to run on bare metal. Of course I could use VirtualBox or xVM on x86, but the performance won't be too good (I tested a GCC bootstrap on xVM dom0 quite some time ago and it took about twice as long as on bare metal). And on SPARC, I don't have a spare Ldom available to run Solaris 10, but would rather use a zone on a V880 running Nevada. Especially given the fact that Sun wants to get Solaris 10 users on bare metal to Nevada (Solaris 11, whatever) quickly by providing Solaris 10 branded zones, it would only make sense to provide S8/S9 branded zones on S11 as well. Thanks. Rainer - Rainer Orth, Center for Biotechnology, Bielefeld University ___ zones-discuss mailing list zones-discuss@opensolaris.org