Re: [Zope] Plone the new Zope?

2010-10-19 Thread Andreas Jung
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William Heymann wrote:

> 
> Zope 2 itself is fine. I just doubt many people using it use zope.org.
>
zope.org is scheduled to be relaunched _very_ soon.

Andreas
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Re: [Zope] Plone the new Zope?

2010-10-19 Thread William Heymann
On Tuesday 19 October 2010, Brian Sullivan wrote:
> I haven't done any Zope work for quite a while and have just restarted
> out of necessity. Things seem to have changed in the last few years.
> 
> I get the impression from the age of the Zope installs, the state of
> disrepair and link rot of the zope.org site that Zope is in its final
> death throes as an independent entity ? I tried to look for an
> independent version of Plone that I can install on an existing Zope =
> the only install I could find is a complete installer including Zope.
> 
> Is Plone the new Zope?


You probably want to go go http://zope2.zope.org
Newer zope releases and other things are not showing up on the zope.org site. 
However fixing all the links on zope.org is probably a pretty massive 
undertaking.

Zope 2 itself is fine. I just doubt many people using it use zope.org.

I run a lot of zope 2 setups and I don't use plone on any of them.
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[Zope] Plone the new Zope?

2010-10-19 Thread Brian Sullivan
I haven't done any Zope work for quite a while and have just restarted
out of necessity. Things seem to have changed in the last few years.

I get the impression from the age of the Zope installs, the state of
disrepair and link rot of the zope.org site that Zope is in its final
death throes as an independent entity ? I tried to look for an
independent version of Plone that I can install on an existing Zope =
the only install I could find is a complete installer including Zope.

Is Plone the new Zope?
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Re: [Zope] Asynchronous triggering of events

2010-10-19 Thread Jeff Peterson
> -Original Message-
> From: zope-bounces+jeff.peterson=crary@zope.org [mailto:zope-
> bounces+jeff.peterson=crary@zope.org] On Behalf Of Brian Sullivan
> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 1:13 PM
> To: Chris Withers
> Cc: zope@zope.org
> Subject: Re: [Zope] Asynchronous triggering of events
> 
> So I installed 2.11.4 -- the latest that I could find and still the
> same issue.

This is what I mentioned about it being built-in to newer versions. You set it 
up in zope.conf.

> 
> I get the impression from the age of the Zope installs, the state of
> disrepair and link rot of the zope.org site that Zope is in its final
> death throes as an independent entity ? I tried to look for an
> independent version of Plone that I can install on an existing Zope--
> the only install I could find is a complete installer including Zope.
> 
> Is Plone the new Zope?

Nope, Bluebream (formerly known as Zope3) is the new Zope, though Zope2 is 
alive and very well.  Might consider peeking at Grok as well. Though I don't 
know if either of those will help you.

> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Chris Withers 
> wrote:
> > On 18/10/2010 22:25, Brian Sullivan wrote:
> >>
> >> zopetcl -- is that a unix program? I am using Windows unfortunately.
> >
> > It might well be on your version of Zope, it works fine in later
> versions,
> > though...
> >
> > That said, if you take a look at Stepper, you'll see that I
> documented how
> > to get it all to work on Windows (use Scheduled Tasks to drive it)
> >
> > cheers,
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > PS: But seriously, how much of a masochist are you? Zope 2.9 on
> Windows?!
> > ;-)
> >
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Re: [Zope] Asynchronous triggering of events

2010-10-19 Thread Chris McDonough
On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 14:13 -0400, Brian Sullivan wrote:
> So I installed 2.11.4 -- the latest that I could find and still the same 
> issue.

Clockserver is actually built into newer Zopes and needn't be installed
separately.  You  configure it by adding stuff to your zope.conf file,
eg.:


method /mysite/do_stuff
period 60
user admin
password secret
host localhost



> I get the impression from the age of the Zope installs, the state of
> disrepair and link rot of the zope.org site that Zope is in its final
> death throes as an independent entity ? I tried to look for an
> independent version of Plone that I can install on an existing Zope--
> the only install I could find is a complete installer including Zope.
> 
> Is Plone the new Zope?

Might want to start a separate thread for all that.

- C


> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Chris Withers  wrote:
> > On 18/10/2010 22:25, Brian Sullivan wrote:
> >>
> >> zopetcl -- is that a unix program? I am using Windows unfortunately.
> >
> > It might well be on your version of Zope, it works fine in later versions,
> > though...
> >
> > That said, if you take a look at Stepper, you'll see that I documented how
> > to get it all to work on Windows (use Scheduled Tasks to drive it)
> >
> > cheers,
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > PS: But seriously, how much of a masochist are you? Zope 2.9 on Windows?!
> > ;-)
> >
> > --
> > Simplistix - Content Management, Batch Processing & Python Consulting
> >- http://www.simplistix.co.uk
> >
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Re: [Zope] Asynchronous triggering of events

2010-10-19 Thread Brian Sullivan
So I installed 2.11.4 -- the latest that I could find and still the same issue.

I get the impression from the age of the Zope installs, the state of
disrepair and link rot of the zope.org site that Zope is in its final
death throes as an independent entity ? I tried to look for an
independent version of Plone that I can install on an existing Zope--
the only install I could find is a complete installer including Zope.

Is Plone the new Zope?



On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Chris Withers  wrote:
> On 18/10/2010 22:25, Brian Sullivan wrote:
>>
>> zopetcl -- is that a unix program? I am using Windows unfortunately.
>
> It might well be on your version of Zope, it works fine in later versions,
> though...
>
> That said, if you take a look at Stepper, you'll see that I documented how
> to get it all to work on Windows (use Scheduled Tasks to drive it)
>
> cheers,
>
> Chris
>
> PS: But seriously, how much of a masochist are you? Zope 2.9 on Windows?!
> ;-)
>
> --
> Simplistix - Content Management, Batch Processing & Python Consulting
>            - http://www.simplistix.co.uk
>
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