Re: [Zope-CMF] Extending FTI.isConstructionAllowed

2009-05-29 Thread yuppie
Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> Previously yuppie wrote:
>> Wichert Akkerman wrote:
>>> I have a use case where I need to put additional restrictions on object 
>>> creation, in particular I need to restrict the maximum depth of items 
>>> inside of a container of a specific type. The ideal place to put such a 
>>> restriction seems to be the isConstructionAllowed method on the FTI. 
>>> Currently this method is not very extensible, which leads to complicated 
>>> code in various FTI types.
>>>
>>> I am considering to add an extension point here, something like this:
>>>
>>> class ITypeConstructionFilter(Interface):
>>>  def __init__(fti, container):
>>>  """Adapt on the FTI of the object being created and the target 
>>> container"""
>>>
>>>  def allowed():
>>>  """Check if construction is allowed."""
>>>
>>>
>>> current checks such as the workflow check that was added in CMF 2.2, or 
>>> the type constraint logic Plone has in ATContentTypes could be moved to 
>>> such an adapter. The standard isConstructionAllowed method could then 
>>> query all registered adapters to check if construction should be possible.
>>>
>>> Does this sound sensible?
>> Question: zope.container.constraints handles this in a different way, 
>> using a precondition defined in the interface. Did you have a look at 
>> that code? If we switch to that pattern, we could use different 
>> preconditions for containers with different interfaces. Would that be 
>> sufficient for your use case?
> 
> I don't think that is sufficient since it does not provide an extension
> point you can hook into

It's no hook for adding restrictions, but it's a hook for using 
different implementations.

> and does not support portal types.

Do you mean "does not support per portal type hooks" or do you mean 
"does not support filtering based on portal type name"?

A CMF specific precondition would look up type restrictions in the fti 
of the container.

checkFactory and checkObject are quite similar to isConstructionAllowed. 
I think we should reimplement this based on zope.container before we 
start adding new features.

Cheers, Yuppie

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Re: [Zope-CMF] Extending FTI.isConstructionAllowed

2009-05-29 Thread Tres Seaver
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Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> I have a use case where I need to put additional restrictions on object 
> creation, in particular I need to restrict the maximum depth of items 
> inside of a container of a specific type. The ideal place to put such a 
> restriction seems to be the isConstructionAllowed method on the FTI. 
> Currently this method is not very extensible, which leads to complicated 
> code in various FTI types.
> 
> I am considering to add an extension point here, something like this:
> 
> class ITypeConstructionFilter(Interface):
>  def __init__(fti, container):
>  """Adapt on the FTI of the object being created and the target 
> container"""
> 
>  def allowed():
>  """Check if construction is allowed."""
> 
> 
> current checks such as the workflow check that was added in CMF 2.2, or 
> the type constraint logic Plone has in ATContentTypes could be moved to 
> such an adapter. The standard isConstructionAllowed method could then 
> query all registered adapters to check if construction should be possible.
> 
> Does this sound sensible?

I'm not sure about querying all adapters:  I think it would be clearer
to query the one adapter whose name corresponds to the type name of the
FTI (the "query all" case leads to tricky / emergent behavior).


Tres.
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Re: [Zope-CMF] Extending FTI.isConstructionAllowed

2009-05-29 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously yuppie wrote:
> Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> > I have a use case where I need to put additional restrictions on object 
> > creation, in particular I need to restrict the maximum depth of items 
> > inside of a container of a specific type. The ideal place to put such a 
> > restriction seems to be the isConstructionAllowed method on the FTI. 
> > Currently this method is not very extensible, which leads to complicated 
> > code in various FTI types.
> > 
> > I am considering to add an extension point here, something like this:
> > 
> > class ITypeConstructionFilter(Interface):
> >  def __init__(fti, container):
> >  """Adapt on the FTI of the object being created and the target 
> > container"""
> > 
> >  def allowed():
> >  """Check if construction is allowed."""
> > 
> > 
> > current checks such as the workflow check that was added in CMF 2.2, or 
> > the type constraint logic Plone has in ATContentTypes could be moved to 
> > such an adapter. The standard isConstructionAllowed method could then 
> > query all registered adapters to check if construction should be possible.
> > 
> > Does this sound sensible?
> 
> Question: zope.container.constraints handles this in a different way, 
> using a precondition defined in the interface. Did you have a look at 
> that code? If we switch to that pattern, we could use different 
> preconditions for containers with different interfaces. Would that be 
> sufficient for your use case?

I don't think that is sufficient since it does not provide an extension
point you can hook into and does not support portal types.

Wichert.

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Re: [Zope-CMF] Extending FTI.isConstructionAllowed

2009-05-29 Thread yuppie
Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> I have a use case where I need to put additional restrictions on object 
> creation, in particular I need to restrict the maximum depth of items 
> inside of a container of a specific type. The ideal place to put such a 
> restriction seems to be the isConstructionAllowed method on the FTI. 
> Currently this method is not very extensible, which leads to complicated 
> code in various FTI types.
> 
> I am considering to add an extension point here, something like this:
> 
> class ITypeConstructionFilter(Interface):
>  def __init__(fti, container):
>  """Adapt on the FTI of the object being created and the target 
> container"""
> 
>  def allowed():
>  """Check if construction is allowed."""
> 
> 
> current checks such as the workflow check that was added in CMF 2.2, or 
> the type constraint logic Plone has in ATContentTypes could be moved to 
> such an adapter. The standard isConstructionAllowed method could then 
> query all registered adapters to check if construction should be possible.
> 
> Does this sound sensible?

Question: zope.container.constraints handles this in a different way, 
using a precondition defined in the interface. Did you have a look at 
that code? If we switch to that pattern, we could use different 
preconditions for containers with different interfaces. Would that be 
sufficient for your use case?

Cheers, Yuppie

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[Zope-CMF] CMF Tests: 7 OK

2009-05-29 Thread CMF Tests Summarizer
Summary of messages to the cmf-tests list.
Period Thu May 28 12:00:00 2009 UTC to Fri May 29 12:00:00 2009 UTC.
There were 7 messages: 7 from CMF Tests.


Tests passed OK
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Subject: OK : CMF-2.1 Zope-2.10 Python-2.4.6 : Linux
From: CMF Tests
Date: Thu May 28 21:31:14 EDT 2009
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/cmf-tests/2009-May/011540.html

Subject: OK : CMF-2.1 Zope-2.11 Python-2.4.6 : Linux
From: CMF Tests
Date: Thu May 28 21:33:20 EDT 2009
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/cmf-tests/2009-May/011541.html

Subject: OK : CMF-trunk Zope-2.10 Python-2.4.6 : Linux
From: CMF Tests
Date: Thu May 28 21:35:26 EDT 2009
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/cmf-tests/2009-May/011542.html

Subject: OK : CMF-trunk Zope-2.11 Python-2.4.6 : Linux
From: CMF Tests
Date: Thu May 28 21:37:27 EDT 2009
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/cmf-tests/2009-May/011543.html

Subject: OK : CMF-trunk Zope-trunk Python-2.4.6 : Linux
From: CMF Tests
Date: Thu May 28 21:39:27 EDT 2009
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/cmf-tests/2009-May/011544.html

Subject: OK : CMF-trunk Zope-trunk Python-2.5.4 : Linux
From: CMF Tests
Date: Thu May 28 21:41:27 EDT 2009
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/cmf-tests/2009-May/011545.html

Subject: OK : CMF-trunk Zope-trunk Python-2.6.1 : Linux
From: CMF Tests
Date: Thu May 28 21:43:27 EDT 2009
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/cmf-tests/2009-May/011546.html

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[Zope-CMF] Extending FTI.isConstructionAllowed

2009-05-29 Thread Wichert Akkerman
I have a use case where I need to put additional restrictions on object 
creation, in particular I need to restrict the maximum depth of items 
inside of a container of a specific type. The ideal place to put such a 
restriction seems to be the isConstructionAllowed method on the FTI. 
Currently this method is not very extensible, which leads to complicated 
code in various FTI types.

I am considering to add an extension point here, something like this:

class ITypeConstructionFilter(Interface):
 def __init__(fti, container):
 """Adapt on the FTI of the object being created and the target 
container"""

 def allowed():
 """Check if construction is allowed."""


current checks such as the workflow check that was added in CMF 2.2, or 
the type constraint logic Plone has in ATContentTypes could be moved to 
such an adapter. The standard isConstructionAllowed method could then 
query all registered adapters to check if construction should be possible.

Does this sound sensible?

Wichert.

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