[Zope-dev] Reporting X-FORWARDED-FOR into the log ( REMOTE_ADDR )

2004-07-22 Thread Egon
I have a Zope server behind a proxy server, this proxy
enables de X-FORWARDED-FROM that contains the real ip
of the client that is connected.
I want to log this variable but I cannot find the way
to do it.

Can anyone to help me? 

Thanks.



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[Zope-dev] [Zope Enhancement Proposal] Sanitizing local roles

2004-07-22 Thread Dieter Maurer
Local roles are "acquired" from ancestors.

While this is not bad for e.g. a "Manager" local role,
its conceptual usefulness is in great doubt for e.g. the "Owner" role.
It is very unclear why an "Owner" of a folder should automatically
be an "Owner" of all its content.

I therefore propose to make "acquisition" of local roles
customizable.

I see two potential variants:

 1. objects get a boolean flag "__ac_acquire_local_roles__"
with default value "True" which allows "acquisition"
of all local roles.

 2. objects get a dictionary "__ac_acquire_local_roles__"
mapping role names to a boolean which allows acquisition
for the respective role.

Of course, the second variant provides more fine grained control
and will require a more complex UI.

The change would affect the methods "allowed" and "getRolesInContext".
of "AccessControl.User.BasicUser" and would require
new methods in "AccessControl.Role.RoleManager" to
read and modify the new "__ac_acquire_local_roles__".


Moreover, I propose to change the local role management pages.
When setting local roles, information about "acquired"
local role definitions is very helpful.
I therefore propose to display this information on the local
role edit page.


I even would prefer a much more drastic change for both
local role management and permission-role-map management:
a compact look only overview mapping roles to users
and permission to roles, respectively, with links to
a page to edit the association of a single role or permission,
respectively. Something like:

  Role|  acquire |  locally assigned users| ancestor assigned users
  -
  Owner   |   no |  dieter| admin, dieter
  -
  Manager |   yes|  dieter| admin
  -

  The "Role" column is a link to a page to edit "acquire"
  and "locally assigned users" for the respective role.


Advantages:

 * more natural behaviour for roles like "Owner"

 * access restricted sub-sites would be much easier to implement

 * more informative management pages


Risks:

 * Classes deriving from "AccessControl.BasicUser" may have
   overridden "allowed" and "getRolesInContext".

   Such overridden methods would not interpret "__ac_acquire_local_roles__"
   until adapted.

   Fortunately, it is not very likely that these two methods
   are overridden.

 * Local roles get a bit more complex.

   However, explicit "acquisition" control is already used
   for the permission role mapping. Thus, users could
   recognize the same concept.

 * The 2.8/2.9 edition of the Zope Book would need to be adapted.


If there is interest,
I could implement the changes and provide patches
against the Zope SVN version.
However, I do not have write permissions to the repository.
This means, someone else would need to make the actual checkins.


BTW: Almost surely, I will implement the proposed change in our
  "private" Zope copy and use it in one of our projects.
  This means, I could provide "production experience" for the
  change in some months.

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Re: [Zope-dev] [Zope Enhancement Proposal] Sanitizing local roles

2004-07-22 Thread robert rottermann
I would very much apreciate such an enhancment.
so ++1
I would like to see where a role was assigned.
And If I can express yet an other wish:
I would very much like to have a way to see what the settings for a 
particular User is. And where the settings for a given permissions have 
come from.

Robert
Dieter Maurer wrote:
Local roles are "acquired" from ancestors.
While this is not bad for e.g. a "Manager" local role,
its conceptual usefulness is in great doubt for e.g. the "Owner" role.
It is very unclear why an "Owner" of a folder should automatically
be an "Owner" of all its content.
I therefore propose to make "acquisition" of local roles
customizable.
I see two potential variants:
 1. objects get a boolean flag "__ac_acquire_local_roles__"
with default value "True" which allows "acquisition"
of all local roles.
 2. objects get a dictionary "__ac_acquire_local_roles__"
mapping role names to a boolean which allows acquisition
for the respective role.
Of course, the second variant provides more fine grained control
and will require a more complex UI.
The change would affect the methods "allowed" and "getRolesInContext".
of "AccessControl.User.BasicUser" and would require
new methods in "AccessControl.Role.RoleManager" to
read and modify the new "__ac_acquire_local_roles__".
Moreover, I propose to change the local role management pages.
When setting local roles, information about "acquired"
local role definitions is very helpful.
I therefore propose to display this information on the local
role edit page.
I even would prefer a much more drastic change for both
local role management and permission-role-map management:
a compact look only overview mapping roles to users
and permission to roles, respectively, with links to
a page to edit the association of a single role or permission,
respectively. Something like:
  Role|  acquire |  locally assigned users| ancestor assigned users
  -
  Owner   |   no |  dieter| admin, dieter
  -
  Manager |   yes|  dieter| admin
  -
  The "Role" column is a link to a page to edit "acquire"
  and "locally assigned users" for the respective role.
Advantages:
 * more natural behaviour for roles like "Owner"
 * access restricted sub-sites would be much easier to implement
 * more informative management pages
Risks:
 * Classes deriving from "AccessControl.BasicUser" may have
   overridden "allowed" and "getRolesInContext".
   Such overridden methods would not interpret "__ac_acquire_local_roles__"
   until adapted.
   Fortunately, it is not very likely that these two methods
   are overridden.
 * Local roles get a bit more complex.
   However, explicit "acquisition" control is already used
   for the permission role mapping. Thus, users could
   recognize the same concept.
 * The 2.8/2.9 edition of the Zope Book would need to be adapted.
If there is interest,
I could implement the changes and provide patches
against the Zope SVN version.
However, I do not have write permissions to the repository.
This means, someone else would need to make the actual checkins.
BTW: Almost surely, I will implement the proposed change in our
  "private" Zope copy and use it in one of our projects.
  This means, I could provide "production experience" for the
  change in some months.
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[Zope-dev] ERROR(200) ZODB Couldn't load state for... Memory problem?

2004-07-22 Thread Russ Ferriday
Hi all,

On OSX 10.3 (Pahter), Python 2.3.4, Zope 2.7.1, I'm frequently seeing this..
2004-07-22T14:00:24 ERROR(200) ZODB Couldn't load state for 16ad
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/local/zope/zope271/lib/python/ZODB/Connection.py", line 559, in setstate
p, serial = self._storage.load(oid, self._version)
File "/usr/local/zope/zope271/lib/python/ZEO/ClientStorage.py", line 755, in load
self._cache.store(oid, p, s, v, pv, sv)
File "/usr/local/zope/zope271/lib/python/ZEO/ClientCache.py", line 601, in store
self._store(oid, p, s, version, pv, sv)
File "/usr/local/zope/zope271/lib/python/ZEO/ClientCache.py", line 631, in _store
f.seek(self._pos)
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'seek'

It's intermittent at first, then back-to-back. 

Following thread leads me to look for memory shortage. But I'd expect a different message in that case.
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg15039.html

This thread seems to suggest such messages (in different context) can be ignored. But I can't do that. This is a symptom of a bigger problem.
http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope/2001-August/097300.html

Has anyone seen this in these circumstances?
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Re: [Zope-dev] Making a ZSQL.DA fully multi-threaded?

2004-07-22 Thread Dieter Maurer
Chris Withers wrote at 2004-7-21 16:44 +0100:
>Brad Clements wrote:
I have set the SAPDB timeout to 32400 seconds.
>>>
>>>Unless you have an extremely heavily loaded Zope, that's too low, and may
>>>be causing you problems...
>> 
>> That is the maximum allowed value in dbmgui.
>
>My point is that unless you implement a connection pool model independent of 
>Zope's threading, you WILL run into problems if you have ANY kind of timeout 
>where the DA isn't smnart enough to reconnect connections that have closed...

All DA's I saw up to now, do a reconnect.

But this is *WRONG" -- as part of a transaction may have been lost.
After "reconnecting", they should raise an exception
derived from "ConflictError" and let the complete request retry.

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Re: [Zope-dev] ERROR(200) ZODB Couldn't load state for... Memory problem?

2004-07-22 Thread Chris McDonough
I have seen this as well but I haven't been able to pin it down.

On Thu, 2004-07-22 at 16:16, Russ Ferriday wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> On OSX 10.3 (Pahter), Python 2.3.4, Zope 2.7.1, I'm frequently
> seeingthis..
> 2004-07-22T14:00:24 ERROR(200) ZODB Couldn't load state
> for16ad
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "/usr/local/zope/zope271/lib/python/ZODB/Connection.py",
> line559, in setstate
> p, serial = self._storage.load(oid, self._version)
>   File "/usr/local/zope/zope271/lib/python/ZEO/ClientStorage.py",
> line755, in load
> self._cache.store(oid, p, s, v, pv, sv)
>   File "/usr/local/zope/zope271/lib/python/ZEO/ClientCache.py",
> line601, in store
> self._store(oid, p, s, version, pv, sv)
>   File "/usr/local/zope/zope271/lib/python/ZEO/ClientCache.py",
> line631, in _store
> f.seek(self._pos)
> AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'seek'
> 
> It's intermittent at first, then back-to-back. 
> 
> Following thread leads me to look for memory shortage. But I'd expecta
> different message in that case.
> http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg15039.html
> 
> This thread seems to suggest such messages (in different context)
> canbe ignored. But I can't do that. This is a symptom of a bigger
> problem.
> http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope/2001-August/097300.html
> 
> Has anyone seen this in these circumstances?
> --r.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Zope-dev] ERROR(200) ZODB Couldn't load state for... Memory problem?

2004-07-22 Thread Russ Ferriday
Thanks, Chris.
We're fronting two Zopes with Pound for load balancing. I can't see there would be any connection with this error. But I mention it in case there's a pattern.
Also, the database came from 2.7.0 and an earlier python. This looks like resource starvation to me. The servers run for an hour or two this problems shows up, becoming worse for a while, then we need a restart.
I'm try to debug it tomorrow. What would you look for? Any tips for resource monitoring?
--r. 
On 22 Jul 2004, at 21:49, Chris McDonough wrote:

I have seen this as well but I haven't been able to pin it down.

On Thu, 2004-07-22 at 16:16, Russ Ferriday wrote:
Hi all,

On OSX 10.3 (Pahter), Python 2.3.4, Zope 2.7.1, I'm frequently
seeingthis..
2004-07-22T14:00:24 ERROR(200) ZODB Couldn't load state
for16ad
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/local/zope/zope271/lib/python/ZODB/Connection.py",
line559, in setstate
p, serial = self._storage.load(oid, self._version)
File "/usr/local/zope/zope271/lib/python/ZEO/ClientStorage.py",
line755, in load
self._cache.store(oid, p, s, v, pv, sv)
File "/usr/local/zope/zope271/lib/python/ZEO/ClientCache.py",
line601, in store
self._store(oid, p, s, version, pv, sv)
File "/usr/local/zope/zope271/lib/python/ZEO/ClientCache.py",
line631, in _store
f.seek(self._pos)
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'seek'

It's intermittent at first, then back-to-back. 

Following thread leads me to look for memory shortage. But I'd expecta
different message in that case.
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg15039.html

This thread seems to suggest such messages (in different context)
canbe ignored. But I can't do that. This is a symptom of a bigger
problem.
http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope/2001-August/097300.html

Has anyone seen this in these circumstances?
--r.




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Re: [Zope-dev] ERROR(200) ZODB Couldn't load state for... Memory problem?

2004-07-22 Thread Chris McDonough
On Thu, 2004-07-22 at 18:51, Russ Ferriday wrote:
> Thanks, Chris.
> We're fronting two Zopes with Pound for load balancing. I can't
> seethere would be any connection with this error. But I mention it
> incase there's a pattern.

Well, I am too in this particular case, but I doubt the frontend matters
too much here.

> Also, the database came from 2.7.0 and an earlier python.

FTR that's also the case for me as well, but again I don't think that
matters here.

>  This lookslike resource starvation to me. The servers run for an hour
> or twothis problems shows up, becoming worse for a while, then we need
> arestart.

I think the problem is related to ZEO client storage "cache flips".  I
found an error in the log near the time of the "None has no attribute
seek" symptom indicating that the Zope process tried to "flip" a ZEO
cache file (by creating a new file) but UNIX file system permissions
apparently prevented it.  But then I turned off persistent ZEO client
cachefile storage (but omitting the "zeo-client-name" parameter from
zope.conf), believing this would be a workaround, but it hasn't been.  I
gave up at that point and that's where I am now.

> I'm try to debug it tomorrow. What would you look for? Any tips
> forresource monitoring?

I think it's resource-related only tangentially; it's a genuine bug that
only happens intermittently.  My theory is that it will happen as often
as a Zope client's ZEO client storage needs to flip its cache file.  
The cache file is only flipped when it exceeds a certain size and it
only exceeds a certain size after a certain pattern of usage causes it
to do so (lots of loads from the database of new items, typically).

It would be nice if you could confirm this.  Reading the Zope event log
file of the client that generated the error would be a good start.

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Re: Re: [Zope-dev] ERROR(200) ZODB Couldn't load state for... Memory problem?

2004-07-22 Thread Tim Peters
[Chris McDonough]
> ...
> I think the problem is related to ZEO client storage "cache flips".

Me too.  The 3.2 ZEO cache alternates between two cache files, in the
two-element list self._f.  Both elements are initialized to None, and
the index of the current file in use (0 or 1) is in self._current. 
There's an implicit assumption throughout the code that
self._f[self._current] is always an actual file object, but the "flip
logic" is excruciating and that global invariant certainly isn't
self-evident.

> I found an error in the log near the time of the "None has no attribute
> seek" symptom indicating that the Zope process tried to "flip" a ZEO
> cache file (by creating a new file) but UNIX file system permissions
> apparently prevented it.

This was a traceback ending somewhere in ClientCache.checkSize()? 
That's where a cache flip happens.  It changes its idea of
self._current (from 0 to 1 or from 1 to 0) *before* making sure
there's an actual file object in "the other" self._f slot.  So, e.g.,
if self._f started life as [good_file_object, None] and self._current
started at 0, and it came time for a cache flip, and a new file object
couldn't be created in self._f[1], self._current would end up as 1
anyway, pointing to None.  But this code gives me a headache, and I'm
not sure that can actually happen (despite that I hear you guys saying
it is ).

> But then I turned off persistent ZEO client cachefile storage (but omitting
> the "zeo-client-name" parameter from zope.conf), believing this would be a
> workaround, but it hasn't been.  I gave up at that point and that's where I am now.

Did you continue to get errors in the log near cache-flip times?  I
don't see a way for checkSize() to screw up unless an unexpected
exception is raised.

> ...
> My theory is that it will happen as often as a Zope client's ZEO client storage
> needs to flip its cache file.  The cache file is only flipped when it exceeds a
> certain size and it only exceeds a certain size after a certain pattern of usage
> causes it to do so (lots of loads from the database of new items, typically).

It appears that once self._f[self._current] is None, all future
attempts by ZEO to store into its client cache will fail the same way.
 So I'd be even more surprised if you saw just one of these occur.

> It would be nice if you could confirm this.  Reading the Zope event log
> file of the client that generated the error would be a good start.

The log is everything here.  The ZEO client cache logs most relevant
messages at info level, producing msgs starting with "ZEC".
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Re: [Zope-dev] [Zope Enhancement Proposal] Sanitizing local roles

2004-07-22 Thread robert rottermann
I agree with you, technically it is not in line with Dieter's proposal. 
But locically. Whenever I come accross one I have to deal with the other.
And I never said, that we have to add all the information to one single 
table..
As you said, it is not really hard to write the code for a task as I 
propoaed. It is the fact that there is no easy  way to get at this 
(badly needed) information that is anoying.

Robert
Andreas Jung wrote:

--On Donnerstag, 22. Juli 2004 21:35 Uhr +0200 robert rottermann 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I would like to see where a role was assigned.
And If I can express yet an other wish:
I would very much like to have a way to see what the settings for a
particular User is. And where the settings for a given permissions have
come from.
Your problem is mainly a problem of visualization. and at least not 
directly related to Dieters proposal.
For a project I wrote a UI where you can see for a given object in the 
ZODB hierarchy which permission/role
settings are defined above in the tree and which subobjects override the 
settings.  The code for doing this
is not really a problem. The problem is how to put these informations in 
a UI. Given the nature of the problem
one would really need a 3D display..maybe 4D :-)

Andreas Jung
zopyx.com - Software Development and Consulting Andreas Jung

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Re: [Zope-dev] [Zope Enhancement Proposal] Sanitizing local roles

2004-07-22 Thread Richard Jones
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On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 03:30 am, Dieter Maurer wrote:
> Moreover, I propose to change the local role management pages.
> When setting local roles, information about "acquired"
> local role definitions is very helpful.
> I therefore propose to display this information on the local
> role edit page.

I have implemented a "security information" page that details this and more
info. I've always found the default security edit pages to be less than
useful since they inherently use acquisition, but don't tell you what would
be or is currently acquired.

The code is attached. We mix it in with every object. A sample output is also
attached.

I have found it invaluable when debugging permissions problems.

Would this be a useful thing to add to 2.8?


Richard
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ManageViewAccess.py
Description: application/python



Access permissions dump



Valid Roles:

User Defined Roles:

Local Roles:



At ObjectLocal Roles Defined




'.join(['%s: %s'%(i[0], ', '.join(i[1])) for i in 
_['sequence-item']])">





Permission Usage:



PermissionAssigned To


&dtml-sequence-key;

&dtml-perm; from &dtml-from;





Permission Settings:



PermissionHas Roles Assigned




'.join([', '.join(d['roles']) + ' from %(from)s'%d for d in 
_['sequence-item']])">








Title: CGPublisher




  



   
  › Zope › CGPublisher › publishers › 1 (Jane's Books) › products › 2 (Jane's test book 2) › details
 
 




  



  





 Jane's Books

 
 
  
  Works
  About
  Security
  Messages
  People
  Products
  Orders
  Work Templates
  Web Space
 
 




   
 
  


  
  
  Product Information 
  ·
  
  Availability 
  ·
  
  Subject 
  ·
  
  Book Information 
  ·
  
  Cover Images 
  
  
  



Access permissions dump



Valid Roles:
Actioner, Anonymous, Authenticated, Contributor, Creator, Manager, Owner, Publisher, System RPC, Visitor
User Defined Roles:

Local Roles:



At ObjectLocal Roles Defined

details




2




products

admin: Owner


1

2: Publisher


publishers

admin: Owner


CGPublisher

admin: Owner









Permission Usage:



PermissionAssigned To

DELETE

Delete objects from webdav.Resource.Resource


HEAD

View from webdav.Resource.Resource


LOCK

WebDAV Lock items from webdav.Resource.Resource


PROPFIND

WebDAV access from webdav.Resource.Resource


PROPPATCH

Manage properties from webdav.Resource.Resource


UNLOCK

WebDAV Unlock items from webdav.Resource.Resource


ac_inherited_permissions

Change permissions from AccessControl.Role.RoleManager


acquiredRolesAreUsedBy

Change permissions from AccessControl.Role.RoleManager


addStorageData

Manage properties from Products.CGPublisher.storage.Storage.Storage


addStorageDataForm

Manage properties from Products.CGPublisher.storage.Storage.Storage


asCGXML

View public storage metadata from Products.CGPublisher.storage.Storage.Storage


countRepetitions

Access contents information from Products.CGPublisher.storage.Storage.Storage


dummy_public

View public storage metadata from Products.CGPublisher.storage.Storage.Storage


dummy_shared

View shared storage metadata from Products.CGPublisher.storage.Storage.Storage


dump

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editPane

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editPaneHelper

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genericSchemaForm

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getAttribute

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getAttributeNode

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getAttributes

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getChildNodes

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getOwnerDocument

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getParentNode

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getSchemasForPaneSelect

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