Re: [ZWeb] new zope 3 wiki is ready
and 2. it is slow, slower than it should be, I'll have to investigate, but later. Better now! I had removed some necessary catalog fields. ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
[ZWeb] new zope 3 wiki is ready
An upgraded copy of the Zope 3 wiki is now live: http://zope3.zwiki.org Please check it out and report any problems. Pretty much everything should be intact. Note: 1. no special skinning or styling has been done - a topic for later - and 2. it is slow, slower than it should be, I'll have to investigate, but later. Both wikis are writable right now. The old wiki on zope.org is still the master copy, but I'd like to make it read-only as soon as you agree, to avoid confusion and resyncing work. Until you might want to just hold off on major edits. It turns out export and import was the efficient way to move these pages. I didn't expect it to import cleanly first time into a modern zope, but it just worked! Hurrah!! Then there was a good deal of fun getting things cleaned up with minimal changes to the metadata. I'll post my notes somewhere in due course. This wiki currently can be edited by anyone who configures a username (by clicking options). This has stopped most zwiki spam up till now, but there will be an incident once in a while, which I'll clean up. I will watch for problems and tighten things up when necessary. (How hard would it be to authenticated against zope.org via ldap ?) Structured Text, Restructured Text, Epoz-HTML and Plaintext markups are available, and the default markup is still STX. Let me know if it should be changed to RST. I have created manager accounts for Jim and Michael H. I'll stop here for now. Thanks, -Simon ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] wiki mirroring plan
Simon Michael wrote: Or, could I get import/export or manage permissions permission at http://www.zope.org/DevHome/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/ComponentArchitecture ? I have ZMI access but can't export. I'll work on that. Jim -- Jim Fulton mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Python Powered! CTO (540) 361-1714http://www.python.org Zope Corporation http://www.zope.com http://www.zope.org ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] wiki mirroring plan
Or, could I get import/export or manage permissions permission at http://www.zope.org/DevHome/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/ComponentArchitecture ? I have ZMI access but can't export. ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Foundation Site
On Thu, 2006-10-12 at 23:37 -0400, Andrew Sawyers wrote: > See: foundation.zope.org > > This is using Darryl's magic. It was painful to get such a beast of RH 9 > working (with 2 arms tied behind my back) but we did it. Thanks Darryl and > David from ZC. > > I will need to speak with someone about getting the necessary pieces from > Darryl's end into svn so we can have the whole ball of wax in svn. Great work! Very classy looking, and well organized. Minor consistency nit: Something seems to be changing the width of the 'columntwo' div in all the pages under 'Membership'. This is causing the grey Z-ball watermark to shift left by various amounts for these pages, instead of lining up with the to header watermark. This was observed with Firefox 1.5. - Michael Bernstein ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] zsyncer ?
Simon Michael wrote: wiki. I'll mirror it as-is on the joyful.com server, transferring the wiki content by wget, export or whatever works, preserving things like Transferring the objects by ZSyncer would be the most efficient way to do this by far, I think. We would need to get (a zope 2.6 compatible version of) ZSyncer installed on zope.org. Could this be done ? I last saw it at http://zopewiki.org/zsyncer , the sourceforge link there seems down right now. ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] wiki mirroring plan
Simon Michael wrote: Sure! I meant to be clearer. Practicing my citing/footnoting skills: since it turns out that a zwiki upgrade on zope.org is not easy due to zope version dependency[1], I'm now pursuing the suggestion of Andrew[2], Lennart[3] and Michael[4] to harvest the wiki content off zope.org and host it on a modern zwiki server as a step towards our goal. I plan to start with the zope 3 developer wiki, the most active zope.org wiki. I'll mirror it as-is on the joyful.com server, transferring the wiki content by wget, export or whatever works, preserving things like hierarchy, subscribers and so on as far as possible. I'll seek a repeatable process, as I expect to do it more than once. Once the mirrored wiki is in place, I'll add any anti-spam and usability configuration that seems helpful. Then I'll announce it here. It will have some preliminary url like zope3.zwiki.org. (I think we should explore how bring the many zope wikis together under wiki.zope.org, but later.) One warning: the joyful.com zope server, which hosts zwiki.org, zopewiki.org and some community wikis, is a hosted VPS with quite limited RAM, so it won't be fast. But should be good enough for the moment. This is my current plan, and I would love any and all help or suggestions - join me on #zwiki or #zope-web irc channels if you can. Any better plans also welcome. Thanks very much for doing this. Jim -- Jim Fulton mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Python Powered! CTO (540) 361-1714http://www.python.org Zope Corporation http://www.zope.com http://www.zope.org ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
[ZWeb] wiki mirroring plan
Sure! I meant to be clearer. Practicing my citing/footnoting skills: since it turns out that a zwiki upgrade on zope.org is not easy due to zope version dependency[1], I'm now pursuing the suggestion of Andrew[2], Lennart[3] and Michael[4] to harvest the wiki content off zope.org and host it on a modern zwiki server as a step towards our goal. I plan to start with the zope 3 developer wiki, the most active zope.org wiki. I'll mirror it as-is on the joyful.com server, transferring the wiki content by wget, export or whatever works, preserving things like hierarchy, subscribers and so on as far as possible. I'll seek a repeatable process, as I expect to do it more than once. Once the mirrored wiki is in place, I'll add any anti-spam and usability configuration that seems helpful. Then I'll announce it here. It will have some preliminary url like zope3.zwiki.org. (I think we should explore how bring the many zope wikis together under wiki.zope.org, but later.) One warning: the joyful.com zope server, which hosts zwiki.org, zopewiki.org and some community wikis, is a hosted VPS with quite limited RAM, so it won't be fast. But should be good enough for the moment. This is my current plan, and I would love any and all help or suggestions - join me on #zwiki or #zope-web irc channels if you can. Any better plans also welcome. -Simon [1].. http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.websites/2867 [2].. http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.websites/2862 [3].. http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.websites/2854 [4].. http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.websites/2864 ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] I go away for a few days :)
as somebody else pointed out before: it was fun to follow the threads! (at first I in deed believed that some of the postings where some sort of blunt jokes) robert Martijn Faassen wrote: > Hey, > > I go away for a few days (to a Zope 3 sprint in Germany, still there), > and lots happened! Sorry I wasn't involved earlier, I only got caught up > today. > > Let's first start with the pieces of *good news*: > > * we got a team of people very much involved with DNS now and the > situation seems to be well in hand *now* > > * we are making great steps towards finally having a Zope Foundation > website. > > * we have people working on Apache and we have moved closer towards a > microsites solution for zope.org, which will make evolution and eventual > migration to a different server solution a lot easier. > > Now as to the bad news: the whole Justizin situation. I feel I must > apologize for taking up Justizin as a volunteer. My defense: at the time > he seemed like a reasonable person and he was the only one that I > noticed stepped up as a volunteer. While I understand some of his > frustration, his outbursts made him clearly unacceptable. I'm glad he > has had the wisdom to step back, though a bit more grace on his part > might've been in order. Thanks everybody for stepping up and resolving > both the DNS issues and the situation. Let's all consider these teething > problems for our zope-web community. > > The positive side-effect of this debacle is that he did energize lots of > people. Next time I need to energize a bunch of people I shall create a > sock-puppet. :) > > Regards, > > Martijn > > ___ > Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web > begin:vcard fn:robert rottermann n:rottermann;robert email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;work:031 333 10 20 tel;fax:031 333 10 23 tel;home:031 333 36 03 x-mozilla-html:FALSE version:2.1 end:vcard ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
[ZWeb] I go away for a few days :)
Hey, I go away for a few days (to a Zope 3 sprint in Germany, still there), and lots happened! Sorry I wasn't involved earlier, I only got caught up today. Let's first start with the pieces of *good news*: * we got a team of people very much involved with DNS now and the situation seems to be well in hand *now* * we are making great steps towards finally having a Zope Foundation website. * we have people working on Apache and we have moved closer towards a microsites solution for zope.org, which will make evolution and eventual migration to a different server solution a lot easier. Now as to the bad news: the whole Justizin situation. I feel I must apologize for taking up Justizin as a volunteer. My defense: at the time he seemed like a reasonable person and he was the only one that I noticed stepped up as a volunteer. While I understand some of his frustration, his outbursts made him clearly unacceptable. I'm glad he has had the wisdom to step back, though a bit more grace on his part might've been in order. Thanks everybody for stepping up and resolving both the DNS issues and the situation. Let's all consider these teething problems for our zope-web community. The positive side-effect of this debacle is that he did energize lots of people. Next time I need to energize a bunch of people I shall create a sock-puppet. :) Regards, Martijn ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] the wikis is evil discussion
Simon Michael wrote: Thanks Martijn, all. We made some good progress. For clarity, I heard no arguments against me trying the below so right now I have this action and will report any results here asap. (11:01:29) sm: yes, some good progress (11:01:40) sm: increased clarity & understanding of next steps anyway (11:02:35) sm: it sounds like I should try mirroring the wikis like you suggest, so I hope to start some of that and follow up soon (11:07:58) sm: mirroring some wikis alongside zopewiki.org, starting with zope 3 wiki (11:08:29) sm: and see how that goes.. if it's a success we could deprecate the old wikis (11:09:08) sm: and then later I imagine they would move to a zope foundation zope server Hey, I'm really happy you're looking into this, Simon! For increased understanding and communication (something that I think I've learned we didn't always have recently :), could you expand on what your plans are concerning steps surrounding the wiki? Regards, Martijn ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Foundation Site
Hi, On Sat, 2006-10-14 at 12:30 +0530, Baiju M wrote: > What about setting up a cronjob for updating (once in a day) ? > > Regards, > Baiju M That would be the good idea. Andrew? For urgent updates it would be handy to have perhaps more than one person on deck. Regards, Darryl ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Foundation Site
On 10/14/06, Darryl Cousins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is the full code up on svn.zope.org? It doesn't appear to be at http://svn.zope.org/web/zf/trunk/. I have recently acquired commit privileges and could attend to the menu and to the typo. Since you got commit privilege, you can commit it. I think we can put those programs/scripts here: svn://svn.zope.org/repos/main/web/scripts (This directory is not created yet) Martijn, is it OK? Andrew - can you fix docutils? And will you you remain responsible for updating rest files on the server (ssh/svn update)? Can I volunteer? What about setting up a cronjob for updating (once in a day) ? Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
