Re: [9fans] Acme: the way the future actually was

2012-10-25 Thread Dan Cross
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote: > On Fri, 14 Sep 2012 08:48:40 -0800 Jack Johnson wrote: > > Even with it's "faults" (age?), I still miss Oberon. It was *fun* and > > elegant. > > It's still around in AOS form where it can run native or as a > user-space program unde

Re: [9fans] Acme: the way the future actually was

2012-10-25 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On Fri, 14 Sep 2012 08:48:40 -0800 Jack Johnson wrote: > Even with it's "faults" (age?), I still miss Oberon. It was *fun* and elegant. > > -Jack > It's still around in AOS form where it can run native or as a user-space program under other OSs. I used it to try out someone else's work and did

Re: [9fans] Acme: the way the future actually was

2012-09-18 Thread michaelian ennis
Ah. Cedar. http://research.swtch.com/acme.pdf Ian

Re: [9fans] Acme: the way the future actually was

2012-09-17 Thread Anssi Porttikivi
Oh, god, this is what we have longed for almost 20 years. I always thought I should do this kind of video. Thank you Russ! t. Anssi Charles Forsyth kirjoitti 17.9.2012 kello 21.26: > And a cleaner link to that: http://research.swtch.com/acme > > On 17 September 2012 19:24, Charles Forsyth wr

Re: [9fans] Acme: the way the future actually was

2012-09-17 Thread Charles Forsyth
And a cleaner link to that: http://research.swtch.com/acme On 17 September 2012 19:24, Charles Forsyth wrote: > And this just in: > ... >

Re: [9fans] Acme: the way the future actually was

2012-09-17 Thread Charles Forsyth
And this just in: http://research.swtch.com/acme?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+hnycombinator+%28HN+-+hnycombinator%29

Re: [9fans] Acme: the way the future actually was

2012-09-17 Thread michaelian ennis
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 10:19 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: > neither is knowledge of oberon ubiquitous among 9fans, who may > not realize that acme itself is a copy. Isn't even that a derivation of the window system from PARC? Oak I believe? Ian

Re: [9fans] Acme: the way the future actually was

2012-09-15 Thread Aram Hăvărneanu
> Probably never heard of Acme. Great, the idea must be good then. -- Aram Hăvărneanu

Re: [9fans] Acme: the way the future actually was

2012-09-14 Thread Matthew Veety
On Sep 14, 2012 7:16 PM, "hiro" <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: > > forgive me, mother, for reading this mailinglist. > I feel as though our mothers have already abandoned us for this list.

Re: [9fans] Acme: the way the future actually was

2012-09-14 Thread hiro
forgive me, mother, for reading this mailinglist.

Re: [9fans] Acme: the way the future actually was

2012-09-14 Thread Nick LaForge
Speak of the devil "Good artists copy, great artists steal." -Pablo Picasso^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HSteven Jobs^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HSamsung Ltd.(?) This message: -some blogger^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HNick LaForge Typos by me. Sent from my meEgo (alphabet button invention included). (Don'

Re: [9fans] Acme: the way the future actually was

2012-09-14 Thread Anssi Porttikivi
Typos by iPhone. Forgive me, Rob. t. Anssi Anssi Porttikivi kirjoitti 14.9.2012 kello 23.00: > Note that Oberon the OS was a stated influence of Ron Pike et. al. Even in > Go, type embedding and resistance to class hierarchies relates back to > Oberon, the language. > > > > Jack Johnson

Re: [9fans] Acme: the way the future actually was

2012-09-14 Thread Anssi Porttikivi
Note that Oberon the OS was a stated influence of Ron Pike et. al. Even in Go, type embedding and resistance to class hierarchies relates back to Oberon, the language. Jack Johnson wrote 14.9.2012 kello 19.48: > Even with it's "faults" (age?), I still miss Oberon. It was *fun* and elegant.

Re: [9fans] Acme: the way the future actually was

2012-09-14 Thread Jack Johnson
Even with it's "faults" (age?), I still miss Oberon. It was *fun* and elegant. -Jack

Re: [9fans] Acme: the way the future actually was

2012-09-14 Thread Charles Forsyth
"Copy" is a little strong: inspired by, certainly, by way of help/help, but there's an amazing difference in the structure of acme as "text editor as file server" with many independent clients accessing it through the file system. Oberon had a more conventional module "plug-in" structure within a s

Re: [9fans] Acme: the way the future actually was

2012-09-14 Thread Hugo Rivera
I knew it because I read the paper :-) 2012/9/14 erik quanstrom : > On Fri Sep 14 10:12:24 EDT 2012, charles.fors...@gmail.com wrote: > >> Probably never heard of Oberon either. > > neither is knowledge of oberon ubiquitous among 9fans, who may > not realize that acme itself is a copy. > > - erik

Re: [9fans] Acme: the way the future actually was

2012-09-14 Thread erik quanstrom
On Fri Sep 14 10:12:24 EDT 2012, charles.fors...@gmail.com wrote: > Probably never heard of Oberon either. neither is knowledge of oberon ubiquitous among 9fans, who may not realize that acme itself is a copy. - erik

Re: [9fans] Acme: the way the future actually was

2012-09-14 Thread Charles Forsyth
Probably never heard of Oberon either. On 14 September 2012 15:07, Lucio De Re wrote: > Still, Oberon had all that a long time ago, if memory isn't betraying > me. >

Re: [9fans] Acme: the way the future actually was

2012-09-14 Thread Lucio De Re
> Probably never heard of Acme. The demo looks impressive, though. I didn't follow it very well, it was way too fast and full of references to concepts that evidently haven't reached my corner of Dark Africa yet :-) Still, Oberon had all that a long time ago, if memory isn't betraying me. ++L

Re: [9fans] Acme: the way the future actually was

2012-09-14 Thread Charles Forsyth
Probably never heard of Acme. On 14 September 2012 14:12, dexen deVries wrote: > Seems a well-meaning developer sort of re-invented Acme > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUR_eUVcABg > > -- > dexen deVries > > [[[↓][→]]] > > I'm sorry that this was such a long lett­er, but I didn't have time to >

[9fans] Acme: the way the future actually was

2012-09-14 Thread dexen deVries
Seems a well-meaning developer sort of re-invented Acme http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUR_eUVcABg -- dexen deVries [[[↓][→]]] I'm sorry that this was such a long lett­er, but I didn't have time to write you a short one. -- Bla­ise Pasc­al