Hi,
I think you shouldnt test anything on 5.1.6.1. We had some problems on it like
crashes randomly.
Regards,
Burak Demircan
Mercedes-Benz Turk A.S
CEO / ITT
Phone: +90 - 212 4823500 (ext .4676)
Fax :+90 212 481 11 54
hi,
yesterday night one of my 5.1.6.2 tsm server crashed (i mean only the tsm
software)
ibm is looking for the causes. by the way i am using 5.1.6.2 on 2 servers since
it had been released without
any problem except this one.
just for your info.
Burak Demircan
Mercedes-Benz Turk A.S
CEO
do these tapes belong to copy pools? they are not waited in the library and
sent immediately offsite
after the "backup of your primary stg"
regards
Burak Demircan
Mercedes-Benz Turk A.S
CEO / ITT
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Fax :+90 212
is it on windows nt. i get rarely this kind of error on windows nt. it is
usually caused by nt itself.
so please check file system. you will probably not able to access file as an
administrator too.
Burak Demircan
Mercedes-Benz Turk A.S
CEO / ITT
Phone: +90 - 212 4823500 (ext .4676)
Fax
expire automatically (after the period) and it is
difficult to watch "expire inventory" results and check
the expired backupsets and return them back. Any help appreciated...
Best Regards,
Burak Demircan
Mercedes-Benz Turk A.S
CEO / ITT
Phone: +90 - 212 4823500 (ext .4676)
Fax :+90 212 481 11 54
no when you do not expiration you db grows but the log may grow with un-backed
up
databasr. try to backup your database more frequently or increase your db. or
you may change your
log type.
Burak Demircan
CEO / ITT
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hi,
i have space for both db and log. they are in %50 usage
sorry but i do not have too much clue
regards,
Burak Demircan
CEO / ITT
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hi,
today, my 5.1.6.0 server crashed unexpectedly. have you every seen something
like that
on that version?
regards,
Burak Demircan
CEO / ITT
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hi,
how can i disable restores under normal conditions and allow some node
to restore at any time i want? but this shouldn't prevent daily backup
schedules.
regards,
Burak Demircan
CEO / ITT
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acceptor service or will it apply changes before it starting my scheduler?
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Burak Demircan
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i also suffer from the same problem. any help appreciated ?
regards
Burak Demircan
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most of those problems we had on 3583 library were due to magazines. after
firmware upgrade and
changing of magazines to "Revision B" everything went ok.
regards,
Burak Demircan
CEO / ITT
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no it is not necessary. i just halt TSM server (not machine just tivoli storage
server ,server)
then i restart after upgrade
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hi,
please do not assume that every body gets the 5.1.5.0 cd (base level). if you
have it with original cds:yes it is base level.i also used it and installed
from scratch.
but i do not thing that it can be installed from a downloaded maintenance
package
regards,
Burak Demircan
CEO / ITT
no but got a 3.1 --> 4.1 --> 5.1 migration without any trouble. if you are
doubt go through a
tried pattern.
regards,
Burak Demircan
CEO / ITT
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it can be because you fill very little part of the tape every day and as the
days pass,
other files on the tape is expired.
regards,
burak
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upgrade to the latest Atape driver. this is what get as a recommendation from
IBM.
regards,
the latest version is 7.1.5.0
check yours with:
lslpp -l |grep Atape
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yes today i upgraded from 4.2.2.13 to 4.2.3.0
i am having problems with backupsets. ibm will look for the cause
the activity log was:
04-11-2002 16:03:12 ANR0106E imarqry.c(4325): Unexpected error 2 fetching row
in table "Archive.Objects".
Burak Demircan
Hi,
Do you have some small scripts for operator to take tapes in and out easily?
Please sen me directly if you have them.
Regards,
Burak
check this also ..very close to your problem
IC31884: V4.2.1 SERVER CORE DUMPING, ANR7837S ON LOCKCYCLE02
[IMAGE]
Abstract
V4.2.1 SERVER CORE DUMPING, ANR7837S ON LOCKCYCLE02
[IMAGE]
Error description
TSM Server V4.2.1 core dumps with ANR7837S Internal error
LOCKC
Hi,
This seems that an unexpected thing occured to your server. I would try to
increase my maintenance level 4.2.2.x
Or at least check 4.2.1.0 patch level if something close to it is there.
One of my server is 4.2.2.13 for enough time and there is no problem.
By the way your DB usage percent i
.
Rgds.
Geirr G. Halvorsen
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Hi,
I am trying to checkin a volume from BULK on 3583. I was getting no error
before.
I am using
Hi,
I am trying to checkin a volume from BULK on 3583. I was getting no error
before.
I am using 5.1.1.6
Regards,
Burak
tsm: TSM01.MBT>checkin libvolume 3583lib 162ACF checklabel=barcode status=pri
ANR2020E CHECKIN LIBVOLUME: Invalid parameter - BARCODE.
ANS8001I Return code 3.
hi,
I am tsm and firewall admin so I did it without reading too much but watching
the logs.
Just Allow following Connections:
Clients ->>> TSM Server on Port 1500 (tcpport on dsm.opt)
TSM Server ->>> Clients on Port 1501
This is for schedmode promted
[EMAI
do not forget to edit password part of the script. You will see XX's there.
Regards,
Burak
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i get e-mail from my server but it is a aix one.
if you want i can send this little script that using sendmail.
regards,
burak
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the high and low tresholds of any stg pool determines when the data is moved to
the next
pool.
see below options are from my disk pool which goes to a tape pool when it is 90
% full until it is 50 % full
High Mig Pct: 90 >>this is the percent where your data starts to go next
pool
Low
think this also:
this volume may be full and next storage which is most probably a tapepool need
a mount point??
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A volume can not be scratch before it spends the reusedelay period after it is
logically empty.
Private Volume=>Empty but Pending Volume for passing of reusedelay=>Scratch
Volume
Regards,
Bura
How do you achieve to create a schedule for every last sunday of the month?
(there could be 4 or 5 sundays??)
Regards,
Burak
Hi,
Today after 4 years I have met an interesting state in client schedules.
Normally live connections and their schedules seem as "Started" in
events but today I saw "In Progress". What does it really mean?
Thank you very much
Burak
Hi,
I have strange output on TSM on my new tsm install (TSM 5.1.1.2)
I have installed it on AIX and didn't forget US fileset like others do.
Please see the attached gif files.
Regards,
Burak
- tsm_error.gif
tsm_error.gif
Description: Binary data
Hi,
I defined my second TSM server as "Other Server" with proper definition
attributes.
But when I click "link to node" shortcut on WEB interface I see following
message:
Your login has timed out. Please login again.
Administrator Login -> this is a button
Any idea what causes this?
Hi,
I found my question's answer: I would need to set it in drm options like
SET DRMCHECKLABEL NO
Regards,
Burak
Hi,
How can I prevent my 3583 library to check barcode labels when using "move
drmedia" command.
I could not find checklabel option in the command help.
Regards,
Burak
yes, you may change the accesses to readwrite and then reclaim but you should
normally use offsite not unavailable access
regards,
burak
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Merhaba Tsm,
Then why is API is included in the client installation set? (it gives us the
option to install or not)
Thanks
Burak
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Hi,
What is the purpose of ODBC files like (IP22519_ODBC.EXE) in the same folder
with clients like (IP22519..EXE)?
Does not the client installation set include everything we need? (i mean why is
it seperate?)
Regards,
Burak
you do not need to install 4.2.1 to install 4.2.2 . am i wrong?
normally you should be able to upgrade to 4.2.2 just after the 4.2 insallation
regards
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Hi,
I am using tsm 4.2.2 and I wonder what changes are there in web GUI side
on version 5.1
Best Regards,
Burak
hi kelli,
how long have you been using this db? if it is over 3 months you can also try
to unload/load db. I did this
for my %70 full db and after the operation I saw it is only %30 full. Of course
you may increase your db anyway
regards,
burak
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your files are "password protected" says the usual ftp sites.
I just wanted to mention this kind of things in the e-mail i sent today with
subject "tsm ftp server"
my previous e-mail:
Hi Everybody,
Why is the following web site is always behind ftp servers? Does anybody can
answer it?
Al
bring all empty cart. to online and run the following command? do i miss
something?
update vol * acc=readwrite WHERESTGpool=FILE_PTPOOL whereaccess=offsite
wherestat=full
update vol * stg=file_ptpool whereacc=offsite
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Hi Everybody,
Why is the following web site is always behind ftp servers? Does anybody can
answer it?
All development stuff in IBM does good job and releases maintenances and
patches but
the web stuff does not need to update the htmls immediately. I am bored to surf
inside the
ftp archive t
I am also reading and writing 150GB of data veryday to 3 drives for about 6
months. I havent
seen any cleaning cartd. is used.
regards,
Burak
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use
SET ACTLOGRETENTION
command
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Subject: about DRM
Hi,
I am trying to understand DRM concept especially the reclamation part.
As the volumes
So you mean that "FILLING" carts can be reclaimed when they are offsite?
regards,
Burak
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I am trying to understand DRM concept especially the reclamation part.
As the volumes become "FULL" they will be reclaimed when the data is low
(define in pool's RECLAIM value)
even if they are offsite copies. The primary pool volumes onsite will be used
and
reclaimed EMPTY copy pool vol
Hi,
Last friday I created a large file enable journaled file system on AIX 4.3.3
and put a
10 gb single file on it. It was my backup disk pool volume. But I recieved
following messages on
TSM and AIX. Any idea?
Actlong from TSM 4.2.2.0
24-05-2002 21:22:38 ANRD dsrtrv.c(538): ThreadI
what is your tsm version?
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Hi,
My copy pool operation continues during the day and if a server administrator
starts the restore without informing me, the backup stg operation stops. How
can I
get an environment that all backup schedules are not affected but all restore
operation
are permitted by me?
Regards,
Burak
Hi,
I have an old 3570 library with 2 drives. I am having following errors on AIX.
There is no
problem yet I see at the moment yet but I want to learn possible causes. Any
help appreciated.
Regards,
Burak
# errpt
IDENTIFIER TIMESTAMP T C RESOURCE_NAME DESCRIPTION
0F78A011 0521094202
Hi Everybody,
I am very disappointed with 4.2.2 patch levels. I upgraded to 4.2.2.1 and saw
the worst version
I have ever seen. I think we all should stick to 4.2.2.0 for a time or upgrade
5.1.x.x
Regards,
Burak
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Hi,
Can anybody send me this DLL ->>
ADSMV3.DLL
for version 3.1.0.6 or 3.1.0.7 client version?
Regards,
Burak
Hi,
After changing an option on dsm.opt I used to restart my scheduler service and
everything
could work. What should I do if I use client acceptor and it starts the
scheduler.
Regards,
Burak
I used 18n2 for a long time and didnt have problem. Now I have version 22ud for
the one and a half week and everything seems ok.
PS: I have 3 drives on my 3583
Regards,
Burak
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Hi,
How can I determine expired volumes to check-in or private volumes that has no
data in
them? I ask this because I sometimes can not follow-up expired volumes so I can
not easily
find which ones were expired and should be check-ed in to my library. This also
includes
check-ed in private
Hi,
Due to low bandwidth to a location we think of buying TDP for Domino (for
e-mail)
We have 10 GB total NFS size on the server and every NSF is just e-mail
database.
How should I expect transferred data after TDP comes? Now 10 GB transferred
every night which
kills all other applications
rface
requests..it starts the TSM Agent REMOTE service.
Bill Boyer
DSS, Inc.
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Hi,
Do you rem
Hi,
Do you remember my question about scheduler, client acceptor and remote agent
services.
I install service in the following way and I got following error.log message. I
start the "TSM Acceptor" service and wait
for the schedule to start backup and nothing happens?? Any help appreciated
Hi,
Sorry if this is a stupid question. I am using scheduler
service for my clients for a long time and I do not have too much
trouble with them. Today I read that Tivoli recommends to use client acceptor.
Some of my clients have limited memory so using it can help me.
(or at least I want to use
You are right. Those files are not there anymore so the client sends this
info to server and they are expired according to files' policy settings,
regards,
burak
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Hi,
I think IBM wants you to have at least 2 copies of backups on tape media.
So, I would also recommend that.
Regards,
Burak
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Hi,
Does anybody have a quick installation guide for "TDP for Domino"?
Regards,
Burak
Hi,
I am using subfile on my windows nt clients but I am confused with
include.subfile option.
Isn't the following options enough for subfile or should I explicitly define
every path to subfile?
subfileb yes
subfilecachep d:\cache (of course i exclude this path from backup)
subfilec
Hi,
My problem with garbage help problem on 4.2.2.0 is resolved.
The problem is due to my lack of AIX knowledge. I installed
TSM 4.2.2.0 from smitty from menu "Install and Update from LATEST Available
Software" but I missed to upgrade current "tivoli.tsm.msg.en_US.server"
fileset. I chose: "Insta
Hi Everybody,
I solved my problem about TSM database which seems small but occupies big size.
The solution was following:
I create /dev/mt0 device for my 8mm external tape (DO NOT USE things like
/dev/rmt0 like you see on AIX---> lsdev -Cc tape ).
Because people said that manual libraries
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Hi,
Does anybody have original dsmserv.opt file for version 4.2? If yes
could you send it to me.
Regards,
Burak
Hi,
I am trying to unload db to 8mm external drive. I have properly defined it as
manul library and labelled my tape.
But I can not use unloaddb. What could be the problem?
root@adsm01 [/adsm/server_recovery] >cd /usr/tivoli/tsm/server/bin
root@adsm01 [/usr/tivoli/tsm/server/bin] >./dsmserv
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Hi,
I am trying to
use a manual library, a 3583 library will work.
Best Regards
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your wish.
Regards,
Mahesh Prasad
DCM Data Systems Limited
New Delhi, India
Burak Demircan
Hi,
A few minutes ago I noticed the buggy help system.
When I enter something like "help q vol" It prints the help like garbage.
Have you noticed it also?
Regards,
Burak
,
REDUCE DB
Regards,
Mahesh Prasad
DCM Data Systems Limited
New Delhi, India
Burak Demircan
IK
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Hi,
One of my TSM servers is TSM 4.2.2.0 on AIX 4.3.3
I have a 1.4GB database which is % 24 full as follows.
---
tsm: ADSM01.MBT>q db
Available Assigned Maximum Maximum Page Total Used
Does anybody have a bash or ksh script for it?
Regards,
Burak
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Hi,
Why dont you think of backupsets? They do not require database usage and easy
to use?
Just create backupset at the end each of period (year or month) and send them
to
offsite with the volume history file. What else could be missing in that
senario? I think : nothing.
Regards,
Burak
Hi,
How can I lock all client nodes and prevent them accessing to server (not
locking them
one by one) and unlock again one at a time.
Regards,
Burak
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I sometimes get the following error message in client schedule logs.
I am using copying data to my tape pools only from a migration from my disk
pool.
Now, I suspect a node option :>>>"MAXNUMMP" This option is 1 for all of my
nodes (35 nodes) Can it be due to MAXNUMMP option? Is it logical to
You should upgrade to 4.x serious to support Unicode that has
no such problems.
Regards,
Burak
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it is still working but your shoud it as a parameter to "dsmserv"
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We have worked about this problem with IBM. They said it will be resolved with
version 4.2.2.x
Regards,
Burak
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I am using 22u0 since it was released. It works fine. Just install it.
Regards,
Burak
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just use checkin
checkin libv Name_Of_The_Library Name_Of_The_Volume status=scr
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Hi,
I have about 40 cartridges (3570) volumed in a strange naming convention and
they all contain data. Now I like to rename all of them with barcode labels.
Is it possible to rename a FULL volume without interfering the data or do I
have
to move the data and use "label libv" command?
Regard
try audit vol command with fix=yes option then upgrade your TSM server
to avoid further problems
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add an option to your node's opt file:
compressalways yes
regards,
burak
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dge holder
change for each internal 6 pack cartridge holder to a slightly bigger slot
type. The new cartridge holders were developed to accept a wider range of
LTO manufacture's tapes.
We will see if this helps.
Mark B.
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Hi,
I have a 3583 LTO library with 60 cartridges capacity plus 12 I/O slots.
Today, when I try to check-in 6 new cartridges to my library that has 54
cartridges currently in it,
TSM responded that the library is FULL. But when i go to library screen and
look at
system info, it says that 6
Hi,
Do you also suffer from very very slow "generate backupset" command?
Regards,
Burak
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The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
"Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.
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Hi,
The tsm client for windows 2000 "4.2.1.30" is crashing when i
try to backup a folder or volume that has "drive shortcuts" example>> D:
Are you having the same problem? Is there a cure for it?
Regards,
Burak
i had same progmlem use web admin client to delete
or you can delete with command "delete files nodename *" to delete
all file spaces of node
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search for the dsm.opt and dsm.sys in your system incase you are
using different option files other than you believe to be right one
regards,
burak
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